Re: [opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread Gaël Lams
Hi,

> There is a comment in common-auth that says that you
> shouldn't edit it. It says it will get overwritten.

Really? In the past (and still today on SLES10) I've happily modified
the pam's configuration files by hand. I think you can safely modify
them.

> common-auth looked like the logical suse counterpart
> to fedora's system-auth.
> Of course /etc/X11/xorg.conf says not to edit it and I
> have done so on several occasions without an issue.
> Maybe using the syntax modeled in those HowTo's in
> common-auth will do the trick.

You will robably only have to add the 2 lines related to pam_ncp_auth.
The other settings seems similar to what's in the common-* files

Kind regards,

Gaël
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Re: [opensuse] OGG but no MP3 in multiple applications

2007-09-17 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 08:07:53 am wmeler wrote:
> I don't know why but I cannot get any MP3s to play in juk, amarok, or
> xmms in a brand new installation of opensuse 10.2.  OGG files play
> just fine.  I uninstalled any mp3-related RPMs, restarted suse, and
> re-installed them.  No dice.  Also installed lame to no avail.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> wmeler

The only application that plays .mp3 out of the box in 10.2 is Real Player.  
This is because .mp3 is a patent encumbered codec, and Real Player is paying 
money for the ability to play .mp3.

You can install the .mp3 codec for other applications (like amarok) if you 
choose to.

These codecs and applications compiled with .mp3 support are found in the 
packman repository.

http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories

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Re: [opensuse] OGG but no MP3 in multiple applications

2007-09-17 Thread B.W.H. van Beest

wmeler wrote:

I don't know why but I cannot get any MP3s to play in juk, amarok, or
xmms in a brand new installation of opensuse 10.2.  OGG files play
just fine.  I uninstalled any mp3-related RPMs, restarted suse, and
re-installed them.  No dice.  Also installed lame to no avail.

  
I had a similar situation with Suse 10.2 although I'm not sure about OGG 
files.
In my case the problem was that no normal user account belonged to the 
group "audio".
You can verify and possibly add the group audio via yast2->user accounts 
(I don't have my Suse system at hand, so this is from my memory).


I found out after I discovered that when I was logged in as "root" (with 
also the KDE-desktop started from root), the sound system worked as 
expected.


Good luck

Bertwim
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[opensuse] OGG but no MP3 in multiple applications

2007-09-17 Thread wmeler
I don't know why but I cannot get any MP3s to play in juk, amarok, or
xmms in a brand new installation of opensuse 10.2.  OGG files play
just fine.  I uninstalled any mp3-related RPMs, restarted suse, and
re-installed them.  No dice.  Also installed lame to no avail.

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Re: [opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread John Burski

Sloan wrote:

JJB wrote:
  

Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any
justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box
with no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools
included, for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI
controls for configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?



There are a few nice admin tools in SLES (not sure about SLED), that
aren't in OpenSuSE but the main differences are in the amount of polish,
and of course the support available.

Joe
  
SLED comes with a few extra goodies.  Groupwise 7.0 is included, as is a 
Citrix client.  I've one setup at work for evaluation purposes.


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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Kai Ponte
On Monday 17 September 2007 20:14, Clayton wrote:
> > >> It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on
> > >> mine either.
> > >
> > > Got a URL?
> > >
> > > Joe
> >
> > www.cbs.com/innertube
>
> The requirements claim Flash 8,  RealPlayer Plus, and FireFox 1.5.
> So... you would think it would work.  I also get audio and no video.

...here come the usual "it works for me" emails...

I have Firefox 2.0.x, Flash 9.0 r48 and RealPlayer 9.

http://donutmonster.com/stuff/2007/20070917_cbs_innertube.jpg

I did notice that when I right-clicked on the screen I didn't get a menu that 
I recognized.  It just had three options - play, pause and stop.



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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 17 September 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> All,
>
> I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
>
> What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?
>
> Greg
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gkrellm is good and if you want something a bit less intrusive, as one 
writer mentioned, try conky.  Not much you can't program that one to 
do!

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 17 September 2007, Ed Harrison wrote:
> joe wrote:
> > Kris Anderson wrote:
> >> When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
> >> watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
> >> displaying.
> >>
> >> SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.
> >>
> >> What's the fix for this?
> >
> > Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.
> >
> > Joe
>
> It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on
> mine either.
>
> Ed
===

No trouble here using Iceweasel, flash r48 build and Zenwalk Linux.  
Only problem I ran in to was having to allow popups for that site in 
the browser.  Iceweasel is the gnu version of Firefox, so either works.  
I didn't try Konqueror, but I've had very few problems to date with 
multimedia in Zenwalk.

Lee

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread joe

Ed Harrison wrote:
> Sloan wrote:

>> Got a URL?

> www.cbs.com/innertube

OK, with flash-9.0.48 I see the media player, and everything looks promising,
but when it starts, I get sound and no video.

However, if I use the flash-beta (flash-plugin-9.0.60.184-release) downloaded
from macromedia, I do see the video. That beta plugin has other issues though,
e.g. the music controls on pandora.com don't work. But it's a promising sign
that the next flash update will make cbs innertube work.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread Don Raboud
On Monday 17 September 2007 20:46, RTF wrote:
>  I tried what I normally would have used as
> a root username and password unsuccessfully.  The same with my normal
> username and password.  I have not set them but don't know how now to do
> that?  Any clues?  It is installed but I have not yet assigned a
> password for root (nor is root recognized without a password (which I
> have not yet assigned) and I certainly have not yet assigned a regular
> username and password.  :(

When you boot openSUSE (using GRUB I assume) there is a place to enter boot 
options.  If you enter "init=/bin/bash" (without the quotes) that will boot 
and get you a shell with root permissions.

Here just issue the command "passwd" to set the root password to whatever you 
like.  

After that reboot normally and you should be able to log in as root.

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Clayton
> >> It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
> >> either.
> >>
> >>
> > Got a URL?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> www.cbs.com/innertube


The requirements claim Flash 8,  RealPlayer Plus, and FireFox 1.5.
So... you would think it would work.  I also get audio and no video.

C.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread RTF

Re-hi all,

Last night I successfully (apparently) installed OpenSuse 10.2.  It was 
getting late and I let it run its course when I went to bed.  This 
morning it looked like the only thing I needed to do was set username 
and password but for some reason, it wasn't working.  In the interest of 
time and checking e-mail before I went to work, I went ahead and checked 
mail via Windows.  Tonight, I attempted to boot into OpenSuse but was 
confronted with the sign-on.  I tried what I normally would have used as 
a root username and password unsuccessfully.  The same with my normal 
username and password.  I have not set them but don't know how now to do 
that?  Any clues?  It is installed but I have not yet assigned a 
password for root (nor is root recognized without a password (which I 
have not yet assigned) and I certainly have not yet assigned a regular 
username and password.  :(


Any help would be appreciated.

Best Regards,
Rob Fleetwood
Rockville, MD

Jonathan Arnold wrote:

RTF wrote:
  

RTF wrote:


Greetings all.  I'm preparing to install OpenSuse 10.2 and have been
browsing the web reading various installation instructions (just to
make sure I don't go an overwrite my MBR or something else stupid) and
came across the following...

Quote -
You will see now a summary of the Installation Settings, which comes
in a Standard (default) and Expert (for power users) view.  I will
suggest using an empty hard drive for this installation;  that means
no other operating system on it, ok?  The partition process is
automatic and it will erase all your data from the selected hard drive.
Unquote -

I have my hard drive split into two different partitions by Partition
Magic.  Can I safely assume I may substitute "selected partition" for
"selected hard drive" above?  I've never run into such a draconian
warning with any other Linux distribution and I have installed several
over the years, always with a dual boot arrangement with Windows.

Thanks in advance.

Rob
  

Well...I attempted to install once again tonight and was confronted with
the following Installation Summary:

* Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 (68.8 gb)
*Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 (1.9 gb)
*Remove volume group VolGroup00
*Delete partition /dev/sda2 (101.9 gb)
*Delete partition /dev/sda3 (70.8 gb
*Delete partition /dev/sda5(? hard to read on the screen) (70.8 gb)

Needless to say, I did not procede further with the installation.  :(



That's what it will do by default. But if you just click on the Partition
selection, you can select from a bunch of different option, including picking
whatever partition you want.

And yeah, pick an empty partition, not necessarily an empty hard drive, is the
way to go.

My favorite online installation guide is here:

http://www.opensuse.computerlanguages.org/install.php

And be sure to check out Hacking 10.2 here:

http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/60/

  


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Re: [opensuse] Reload of SLED and add repo's

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Monday 17 September 2007 18:00:56 Chris Arnold wrote:
> OK, i have been trying for weeks to get the latest of libgnomecanvas
> and gnome desktop environment installed on my sled SP1 install; and
> all attempts have left the system "broke/unusable". So, i am backing

Sorry - I'm coming to this late and haven't seen any earlier posts about 
problems with installing libgnomecanvas et al.

> up stuff now and thinking about reloading the system; and during the
> install adding opensuse repos to install libgnomecnavas and the gnome
> desktop environment. What are the steps needed to update gnome

Adding openSUSE (10.2?) repos to a SLED 10 (SP1) install does not strike 
me as particularly wise. Even adding SUSE Linux 10.1 repos to a SLED 10 
installation doesn't really sit well either.

> desktop environment and libgnomecanvas? Should i be able to click on
> "software" during the install and then search for libgnomecanvas
> (select the version i want) and then search for gnome desktop

The whole point of SLED is that it provides a stable environment, which 
implies that's it's not going to be shipping with the latest versions 
of software. In your particular instance, libgnomecanvas is supplied 
with SLED (version 2.12).

> environment and select that new version and then "install"? I am just
> looking for the working way to update some of this stuff.

I would guess from your post that you're looking for a more up to date 
version of libgnomecanvas - possibly a requirement for another piece of 
software? If this is the case, then I would also imagine that trying to 
update libgnomecanvas on SLED 10 is going to involve updating a lot of 
other GNOME components (maybe a complete GNOME version update?), which 
is not going to be much fun at all. It would appear that the original 
piece of software you want to install therefore isn't certified to run 
on SLED 10. Maybe using openSUSE instead of SLED is an option?

Regards,
Jon
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[opensuse] printer sharing with samba

2007-09-17 Thread Ron Eggler
Hi,

I've setup a printer and would like to share it with samba on my network so i 
can print from my clients, smbclient is saying following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> smbclient -U% -L server
Domain=[TUX-NET] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
media   Disk  Media Share
dataDisk  Data Share
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 
3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10)
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 
3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10)
Deskjet_D4200   Printer
Domain=[TUX-NET] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10]

Server   Comment
----
DESKTOP-REG  Samba 3.0.23d-19.7-1354-SUSE-SL10.2
SERVER   Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10

WorkgroupMaster
----
TUX-NET  DESKTOP-REG
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But if I wanna add it by Yast I get: "NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME" and in 
Windows i get: Access dinied, unable to connect. So i guess it would be a 
user access problem. The global and printer section in my smb.conf looks 
like:
[global]
workgroup = TUX-NET
printing = cups
printcap name = cups
printcap cache time = 750
cups options = raw
map to guest = Bad User
include = /etc/samba/dhcp.conf
logon path = \\%L\profiles\.msprofile
logon home = \\%L\%U\.9xprofile
logon drive = P:
usershare allow guests = Yes
add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd  -c
Machine -d /var/lib/nobody -s /bin/false %m$
domain logons = No
domain master = No
security = user
[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   path = /var/spool/samba
   browseable = yes
   guest ok = yes
   writable = no
   printable = yes
i wanna say that i have two directoties shared and they're working just fine 
to access with cifs and Windows.

Thanks for any help there!
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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-17-07 21:41]:
> 
> You might sugest to the packagers to include it in 10.3 mainline.
> 

Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 21:01 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

> * Randall R Schulz <> [09-17-07 18:41]:
> > Hey, nice. That one's new to me.
> 
>   ":^)
> 
> > The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
> > Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
> > over there to see what's up. This is even better.
> 
> I do also.  You have an instant indication of load all the time.
> GKrellm is quite similar and give an indication of net access and hard
> disk usage, vital temps and fan speeds, but is rather intrusive on the
> desktop  :^(

You might sugest to the packagers to include it in 10.3 mainline.

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Ed Harrison
Sloan wrote:
> Ed Harrison wrote:
>   
>> joe wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Kris Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
 watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
 displaying.

 SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.

 What's the fix for this?
 
   
 
>>> Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
>> either.
>>   
>> 
> Got a URL?
>
> Joe
>   
www.cbs.com/innertube
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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-17-07 18:41]:
> Hey, nice. That one's new to me.

  ":^)

> The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
> Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
> over there to see what's up. This is even better.

I do also.  You have an instant indication of load all the time.
GKrellm is quite similar and give an indication of net access and hard
disk usage, vital temps and fan speeds, but is rather intrusive on the
desktop  :^(

> Thanks for the tip.

I gain much from the lists, it's pleasing to be able to pass some of
it on occasionally  :^)

cu
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Re: [opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Sloan
JJB wrote:
> Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any
> justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box
> with no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools
> included, for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI
> controls for configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?

There are a few nice admin tools in SLES (not sure about SLED), that
aren't in OpenSuSE but the main differences are in the amount of polish,
and of course the support available.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Changing drivers on Xorg (intel card)

2007-09-17 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/9/2, Ciro Iriarte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2007/8/30, Ciro Iriarte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 2007/8/30, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On 2007/08/30 20:09 (GMT-0400) Ciro Iriarte apparently typed:
> > >
> > > > Hi, replaced the "i810" driver with "intel" looking for better results
> > > > on getting the s-video output to work but the server is using a wrong
> > > > DisplaySize leaving me with a weird desktop.
> > > > Pic: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7962/intelln4.png
> > >
> > > > I changed the config like this:
> > >
> > > > Section "Monitor"
> > > > #  DisplaySize  331 207 <-- Old value
> > > >   DisplaySize  344 222 <-- New value
> > > >   HorizSync30-62
> > > >   Identifier   "Monitor[0]"
> > > >   ModelName"FD1631154WB4 LCD MONITOR"
> > > >   Option   "DPMS"
> > > >   VendorName   "CPT"
> > > >   VertRefresh  43-60
> > > >   UseModes "Modes[0]"
> > > > EndSection
> > >
> > > > But the x server seems to use the old value (already restarted it many
> > > > times), from the logs:
> > >
> > > > (II) intel(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
> > > > (II) intel(0): clock: 68.9 MHz   Image Size:  331 x 207 mm <-- still
> > > > getting the old values
> > > > (II) intel(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1301  h_sync_end 1333
> > > > h_blank_end 1408 h_border: 0
> > > > (II) intel(0): v_active: 800  v_sync: 801  v_sync_end 804 v_blanking:
> > > > 816 v_border: 0
> > >
> > > > This is a Dell Inspiron 6400, X/SaX detects the card as "945 GM" and
> > > > the laptop specs state (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950), any
> > > > ideas?
> > >
> > > I can't tell what your screenshot is supposed to be showing, but here are
> >
> > It's the actual view from the laptop's LCD panel, i'm not tinkering
> > yet with s-video. If you have a look at the kde panel, it's not aware
> > of the actual panel size and the konqueror box is fully maximazed it
> > should be covering the whole screen
> >
> > > three changes to xorg.conf that I would try if it was my problem:
> >
> > I assume that's for testing with s-video, right?, i'll test it in case
> > it's needed
> >
> > >
> > > VertRefresh  56-61 # try this first
> > > #   UseModes "Modes[0]" try 2nd
> > > Option "NoDDC" # in Section "Device" for the graphics card (last resort)
> > >
> > > I doubt DDC can work via an S-Video connection.
> > > --
> > > "   It is impossible to rightly govern the world without
> > > God and the Bible."George Washington
> > >
> > >  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409
> > >
> > > Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Ciro
> >
> Anyone using the "intel" driver?
>
> Ciro
>

No one?

Ciro
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[opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread JJB
Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any 
justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box with 
no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools included, 
for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI controls for 
configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?


Thanks,

Joel
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[opensuse] Libgnomecanvas upgrade

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Has anyone on this list, that uses SLED, been able to go from
libgnomecanvas 2.12 to libgnomecanvas 2.14? If so, can you share exactly
what you had to do to accomplish this.

Chris
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Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Chris Arnold wrote:
> Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
>   
>> Select 'Add Online Repositories Before Installation' during the 
>> 'Installation 
>> mode' step.
>>   
>> 
> I do not see where "Add Online Repositories Before Installation" is and
> where is "Installation mode"? I don't see a way to add a "online source"
> during installation of SLED. I have a test pc that i am trying this on.
>   
I don't see how adding a repo during installation will even work b/c at
that point you don't even have an ip address. How are you going to go to
opensuse/whatever/repo or any repo on your network without an ip?
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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Sloan
Ed Harrison wrote:
> joe wrote:
>   
>> Kris Anderson wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
>>> watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
>>> displaying.
>>>
>>> SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.
>>>
>>> What's the fix for this?
>>> 
>>>   
>> Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.
>>
>> Joe
>>   
>> 
> It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
> either.
>   
Got a URL?

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 9/17/07, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Greg Freemyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-17-07 18:10]:
> > I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
> >
> > What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?
>
> 18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads > rpm -qi qps
> Name: qps  Relocations: (not relocatable)
> Version : 1.9.18.6  Vendor: (none)
> Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Sun 17 Dec 2006 
> 04:10:29 PM EST
> Install Date: Sun 04 Mar 2007 06:26:32 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
> Group   : System/Monitoring Source RPM: 
> qps-1.9.18.6-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
> Size: 528730   License: GPL
> Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sun 17 Dec 2006 04:10:31 PM EST, Key ID 
> af734c5a58857177
> Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://qps.kldp.net/
> Summary : Displays Processes In An X11 Window
> Description :
> Qps is a visual process manager, an X11 version of "top" or
> "ps" that displays processes in a window and lets you sort and
> manipulate them. It displays some general system information, and many
> details about current processes (such as the TCP/UDP sockets in use by a
> process). Qps runs on Linux and Solaris.
> Distribution: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)
>
>
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Thanks all, qps in particular is looking like it may always be open.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 15:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Greg Freemyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-17-07 18:10]:
> > ...
> >
> > What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?
>
> 18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads > rpm -qi qps
> Name: qps
> Version : 1.9.18.6

Hey, nice. That one's new to me.

The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
over there to see what's up. This is even better.


Thanks for the tip.


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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 11:58 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

> > Do you understand the problem now?
> 
> I understand the problem.
> 
> I have a form with a sub-form linked via an index... Whenever I select
> an entry in primary form I see all relevant entries linked in the
> sub-form... Can edit and update records in both form and sub-form...,

Hum!

I tried via forms, but I couldn't get it right.


> Table structure is roughly
> 
> Table A
> 
> Index, data
> 
> Table B
> 
> Index, Link to A index, data
> 
> Form to Sub form relationship based on linking field 1 to field 2...
> 
> Your structure implies a read only join...


Huh? Rekall does it read write just fine.

It shows like this:

TitleAuthor
 -- -
 Robots and Empire  Asimov ^
 Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke ^

The "Author" column fields are drop down lists from which I can choose an 
author from any author in the authors table.

> Adding a new subform entry is clunky... and adding primary entries is
> definitely very clunky indeed (when committing a new entry tend to keep
> ending up on first record in table, so you have to go to the last entry
> and continue from there).

Mmmm...


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread James Knott
Greg Freemyer wrote:
> All,
>
> I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
>
> What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?
>
> Greg
>   
KSysGuard.  It should be on your Geko menu, under System > Monitor

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Greg Freemyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-17-07 18:10]:
> I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
> 
> What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads > rpm -qi qps
Name: qps  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.9.18.6  Vendor: (none)
Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Sun 17 Dec 2006 
04:10:29 PM EST
Install Date: Sun 04 Mar 2007 06:26:32 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
Group   : System/Monitoring Source RPM: 
qps-1.9.18.6-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
Size: 528730   License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sun 17 Dec 2006 04:10:31 PM EST, Key ID af734c5a58857177
Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://qps.kldp.net/
Summary : Displays Processes In An X11 Window
Description :
Qps is a visual process manager, an X11 version of "top" or
"ps" that displays processes in a window and lets you sort and
manipulate them. It displays some general system information, and many
details about current processes (such as the TCP/UDP sockets in use by a
process). Qps runs on Linux and Solaris.
Distribution: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 15:07, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> All,
>
> I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
>
> What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

KDE System Guard / KSysGuard

KDE Menu -> System -> Monitor -> Performance Monitor

 --or--

CTRL+ESC


> Greg


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[opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
All,

I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.

What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Ed Harrison
joe wrote:
> Kris Anderson wrote:
>
>   
>> When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
>> watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
>> displaying.
>>
>> SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.
>>
>> What's the fix for this?
>> 
>
>
> Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.
>
> Joe
>   
It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
either.

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Re: [opensuse] Autoyast Installation 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi Jeff,

jeff garner wrote:
> I have tried on three different occasions to do an FTP installation
> using the autoinst file created from a base install image of
> openSUSE10.2.  all three times it fails giving me an error that it
> cannot find the profile on my FTP server.  I know that when I create a
> file, then load it into the autoinstallation module of Yast, put in my
> additional packages and change the root password I get that it is not a
> valid xml file.  What is it about autoyast that is hosed that isn't
> allowing a auto created xml file fail the validity check in yast?

Whilst not directly related please review Bug 325554 as I believe it is
similar to what you want and has been 'delayed' until 11.0

Hope it helps
Hylton

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Rasmus Plewe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:41:05PM -0400, Damon Register wrote:
> RBStanfield wrote:
>
>> "Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
>>or check permissions of your X-Server"
> 
> With the shell I am using it is
> setenv DISPLAY my.localhost.ip:0.0
>
> Without that your remote apps are trying to send their X commands to the
> remote machine instead of yours

If your local host is accepting this you have security holes you can
drive a truck through. But please, tell me the IP of your local machine,
so that I can send you embarrassing pictures on your screen when your
boss is standing behind you... ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

2007-09-17 Thread Susemail
On Sunday 16 September 2007 04:01:27 Martin Mielke wrote:
> - Original Message 
> From: ianseeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:54:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)
>
>  On Friday 14 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 the whole Kontact suite (Kmail, etc) crash
> > just after launching it with a SIGSEGV 11.
>
> snip
>
> > Before posting in here I did a search on the subject on bugs.kde.org but
> > all were related to older versions and dated back in 2005 at least... so
> > I guess it's "new" as it was working just fine before updating from KDE
> > 3.5.5 to 3.5.7...
> >
> > Has anyone faced this before and could maybe point me to a solution??
>
> have you tried launching each application separately to see if it email or
> addressbook or calendar that is crashing opposed to it being kontact
> itself?f
>
>
> -- yes, all of them give the same results: crash and SIGSEGV 11
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
I'm having the same problem using Kmail in Kontact.  Also, while Kmail checks 
for mail, using Kmail to read mail, write mail or write passwords to access 
email accounts is very slow.
It's as if Kmail can only fetch mail when fetching mail.

Just today I have a filtered email that will not delete.  When I try to 'move 
to trash' it gets a red line through it but it doesn't move.  First time this 
has ever happened.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Vagionas Chris

Jonathan Arnold wrote:

Jonathan Arnold wrote:
  

Chris Vagionas wrote:


I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:

14:46 chvagion:~ > amarok
Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
amarokapp.

Any idea what to do ?
  

Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
is.



I got it fixed by updating everything involved, including KDE

I solved the problem too..
I completely removed amarok and tried reiinstalling it, but nothing.
I also tried removing  my amarok-profile but nothing.
I could not find any solution (cause I had no warning or idea what the 
problem was)


So I just restored to a ghost image i had  created a week ago.




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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On 09/16/2007 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> >If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be
> >this whole packaging and install source thing.
> >It's fscking ridiculous that there are 4 or 5 different tools for
> >openSUSE, and none of them do what they're supposed to do, flawless,
> >all the time.
> >I'm not saying that there should only be one, I'm all for choice,
> >but having 4 or 5 early Bèta stage tools, and no mature versions, is
> >a bloody pain.
> >
> >Theo
> 
> If you ever find a piece of software that works "flawless,
> all the time" I would be very interested in it.

Let me rephrase that: robust enough so that I don't notice flaws
on servers and with connections.

A couple of days ago I reported about a problem between zypper and
ftp.gwdg.de. Those are the problems that I don't want to know about;
if there's a problem parsing /a/ file on /a/ server: *deal* with it
instead of bombing out and passing the shreds to me.

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[opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread RBStanfield
Folks,

It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
and am at a loss to interpret 

"cannot connect to X server" and

"Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
   or check permissions of your X-Server"

when try to run Open Office remotely, for example.

"DISPLAY environment variable" --- What is it supposed to contain? I don't have
an example.

"check permissions of your X-Server" --- Permission of which file?

What else do I need to do?

Bob Stanfield
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Re: [opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread jeff garner
David,

are you referring to the RH named files like auth-config, etc?  if you
can, look at examples of the RH files, there are the common- files in
SUSE that are similar.

On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:32 -0700, David Tisdell wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital audio.
> The client from Novell does not work with the RT
> kernel (The version 2 client which is in public beta
> works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2) After
> exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
> package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to work.
> I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel all
> at the same version and installation would fail on the
> compile of novfs.
> It seemed like the time had come to move on and I am
> trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
> supposed to be able to create a local account on the
> fly and mount the users's home directory from an NCP
> server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
> I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
> http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
> The problem is that they were written for Red
> Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
> Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
> /etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
> configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i emailed
> the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
> wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help me on
> the specifics of PAM.
> Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless as
> possible for the end users. This is for a middle
> school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
> desktop.
> Thanks.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>
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Re: [opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Borsos Imre Attila
2007. 09. 17, hétfő keltezéssel 15.56-kor Peter Nixon ezt írta:
> Hi Guys
> 
> I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server 
> to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user 
> accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into 
> production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users 
> with the following error:
> 
> # useradd 00c002f8dfe9
> useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.
> 
> I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's 
> version of useradd:
> 
> "The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the rest 
> of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_]
> [A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$])."
> 
> Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a 
> working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to change 
> the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number (because they 
> are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed software using this 
> system which would take months to update.
> 
> How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -- 
> 
> Peter Nixon
> http://peternixon.net/

Hi!

If you use on the new openSUSE server local authentication, you can copy
the old /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files from the Debian system and you
are ready in a simple way. It's just an idea.
You have to change the UID and GID values and rsync the home data.

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[opensuse] USB Problem - WinXP under VMware Player

2007-09-17 Thread Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)
Hi !


I have WinXP running under VMware Player 6 (with all USB options enabled, 
VMware tools installed, and USB bus seen in WinXP guest), under SuSE 10.2.

M/b is MSI with Intel 965 chipset and Core 2 Duo CPU.

And now the problem: no matter what I have tried, I am was unable to get 
pocket PC working with ActiveSync. The device is simply not seen anywhere and 
anyhow.

So, I have connected iPod, and the symptom is the same - it is not been 
recognized at all by WinXP guest. Linux host recognizes it, but I am always 
instructed not to mount the iPod in KDE.

Any idea what can be wrong? How I can disable USB hotplug in Linux host?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s).

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 11:52, Rasmus Plewe wrote:
> ...
>
> If your local host is accepting this you have security holes you can
> drive a truck through. But please, tell me the IP of your local
> machine, so that I can send you embarrassing pictures on your screen
> when your boss is standing behind you... ;-)

134.5.8.29

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% whois 134.5.8.29

OrgName:Lockheed Martin Corporation
OrgID:  LHMC
Address:1401 Del Norte
City:   Denver
StateProv:  CO
PostalCode: 80221
Country:US

NetRange:   134.5.0.0 - 134.5.255.255
CIDR:   134.5.0.0/16
NetName:LASC
NetHandle:  NET-134-5-0-0-1
Parent: NET-134-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.LMCO.COM
NameServer: NS2.LMCO.COM
NameServer: NS3.LMCO.COM
Comment:
RegDate:1989-04-11
Updated:2005-02-07

OrgTechHandle: LMN-ORG-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Lockheed Martin Corporation
OrgTechPhone:  +1-303-430-2064
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


The whois information is consistent with the domain name of Damon's 
email address.

My guess is that there is sufficent firewall protection arond Lockheed 
Martin's corporate intranet as well as a VPN for employees when off 
premises and to connect different campuses.


> Regards,
>  Rasmus


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[opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread David Tisdell
Hi all,

I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital audio.
The client from Novell does not work with the RT
kernel (The version 2 client which is in public beta
works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2) After
exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to work.
I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel all
at the same version and installation would fail on the
compile of novfs.
It seemed like the time had come to move on and I am
trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
supposed to be able to create a local account on the
fly and mount the users's home directory from an NCP
server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
The problem is that they were written for Red
Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
/etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i emailed
the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help me on
the specifics of PAM.
Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless as
possible for the end users. This is for a middle
school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
desktop.
Thanks.

Dave


   

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Re: [opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread David Tisdell
Hi Jeff,

There is a comment in common-auth that says that you
shouldn't edit it. It says it will get overwritten.
common-auth looked like the logical suse counterpart
to fedora's system-auth.
Of course /etc/X11/xorg.conf says not to edit it and I
have done so on several occasions without an issue.
Maybe using the syntax modeled in those HowTo's in
common-auth will do the trick.
I'll try that and report back to the list.

Dave
--- jeff garner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David,
> 
> are you referring to the RH named files like
> auth-config, etc?  if you
> can, look at examples of the RH files, there are the
> common- files in
> SUSE that are similar.
> 
> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:32 -0700, David Tisdell
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital
> audio.
> > The client from Novell does not work with the RT
> > kernel (The version 2 client which is in public
> beta
> > works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2)
> After
> > exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
> > package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to
> work.
> > I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel
> all
> > at the same version and installation would fail on
> the
> > compile of novfs.
> > It seemed like the time had come to move on and I
> am
> > trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
> > supposed to be able to create a local account on
> the
> > fly and mount the users's home directory from an
> NCP
> > server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
> > I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
> >
>
http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
> >
>
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
> > The problem is that they were written for Red
> > Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
> > Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
> > /etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
> > configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i
> emailed
> > the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
> > wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help
> me on
> > the specifics of PAM.
> > Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless
> as
> > possible for the end users. This is for a middle
> > school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
> > desktop.
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
>

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Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

2007-09-17 Thread ianseeks

 On Sunday 16 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
> - Original Message 
> From: ianseeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:54:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)
>
>  On Friday 14 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 the whole Kontact suite (Kmail, etc) crash
> > just after launching it with a SIGSEGV 11.
>
> snip
>
> > Before posting in here I did a search on the subject on bugs.kde.org but
> > all were related to older versions and dated back in 2005 at least... so
> > I guess it's "new" as it was working just fine before updating from KDE
> > 3.5.5 to 3.5.7...
> >
> > Has anyone faced this before and could maybe point me to a solution??
>
> have you tried launching each application separately to see if it email or
> addressbook or calendar that is crashing opposed to it being kontact
> itself?f
>
>
> -- yes, all of them give the same results: crash and SIGSEGV 11
>

Sounds like something fundemental, have you tried reinstalling Kontact or 
removing hte configuration files for each program? 
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[opensuse] Autoyast Installation 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread jeff garner
I have tried on three different occasions to do an FTP installation
using the autoinst file created from a base install image of
openSUSE10.2.  all three times it fails giving me an error that it
cannot find the profile on my FTP server.  I know that when I create a
file, then load it into the autoinstallation module of Yast, put in my
additional packages and change the root password I get that it is not a
valid xml file.  What is it about autoyast that is hosed that isn't
allowing a auto created xml file fail the validity check in yast?
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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 9/17/07, RBStanfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
> and am at a loss to interpret
>
> "cannot connect to X server" and

Do you really need "X server" specifically, or just a way to remotely
access a graphical login that provides X functionality as if you were
local.

The standard remote X process is sort of clumsy and filled with little
gotchas IMHO.  A couple other choices are VNC and FreeNX.  OpenSUSE
comes with clients and servers for both.   (Windows clients also
readily available.)

I've been using FreeNX for the last couple SUSE releases.  FreeNX has
actually been a bit of a pain to keep running too, so if I were
starting from scratch I would consider VNC.

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Damon Register

RBStanfield wrote:

Folks,

It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
and am at a loss to interpret 


"cannot connect to X server" and

This is one I see often when I am logged into another machine and forget
to set the DISPLAY environment variable.


"Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
   or check permissions of your X-Server"

With the shell I am using it is
setenv DISPLAY my.localhost.ip:0.0

Without that your remote apps are trying to send their X commands to the
remote machine instead of yours

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Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> Select 'Add Online Repositories Before Installation' during the 'Installation 
> mode' step.
>   
I do not see where "Add Online Repositories Before Installation" is and
where is "Installation mode"? I don't see a way to add a "online source"
during installation of SLED. I have a test pc that i am trying this on.
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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Rasmus Plewe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:23:50PM -0400, RBStanfield wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
> and am at a loss to interpret 
> 
> "cannot connect to X server" and
[...]
> 
> What else do I need to do?

Use "ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]" to log in into the remote box. 


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[opensuse] Reload of SLED and add repo's

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
OK, i have been trying for weeks to get the latest of libgnomecanvas and
gnome desktop environment installed on my sled SP1 install; and all
attempts have left the system "broke/unusable". So, i am backing up
stuff now and thinking about reloading the system; and during the
install adding opensuse repos to install libgnomecnavas and the gnome
desktop environment. What are the steps needed to update gnome desktop
environment and libgnomecanvas? Should i be able to click on "software"
during the install and then search for libgnomecanvas (select the
version i want) and then search for gnome desktop environment and select
that new version and then "install"? I am just looking for the working
way to update some of this stuff.

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Re: [opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Winkelmann
On Monday 17 September 2007 14:56, Peter Nixon wrote:

> I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server
> to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user
> accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into
> production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users
> with the following error:
>
> # useradd 00c002f8dfe9
> useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.
>
> I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's
> version of useradd:
>
> "The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the
> rest of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class
> ([A-Za-z_] [A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$])."
>
> Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a
> working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to
> change the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number
> (because they are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed
> software using this system which would take months to update.
>
> How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?

Maybe:

$ man 5 login.defs

/etc/login.defs

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[opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Jonathan Arnold wrote:
> Chris Vagionas wrote:
>> I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
>> Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:
>>
>> 14:46 chvagion:~ > amarok
>> Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
>> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
>> amarokapp.
>>
>> Any idea what to do ?
> 
> Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
> for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
> is.

I got it fixed by updating everything involved, including KDE.

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[opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Chris Vagionas wrote:
> I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
> Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:
> 
> 14:46 chvagion:~ > amarok
> Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
> amarokapp.
> 
> Any idea what to do ?

Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
is.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Cole
El lun, 17-09-2007 a las 16:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. escribió:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
> 
> > It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
> > through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
> > says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
> > it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
> > pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
> > messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
> 
> Try fetchmail.
> 
> It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then
> forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if 
> you ask it to.
(...)
> - -- 
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>Carlos E. R.

I tried using Kmail and Thunderbird with exactly the same results. So it
was  evident it was not an Evolution problem. I googled some more for a
different subject and then I found a page saying that MTU value could be
the problem. As root, I used "ping -f -l 1500 192.168.0.1" (that is my
winbox's IP) and sure enough, there was a message "WARNING: probably,
rcvbuf is not enough to hold preload.". I kept trying lower values until
I reached 576 for MTU. I went to Yast and set it for eth1, and now,
everything works fine. Maybe it will help others with similar problem.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Dave Howorth
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
> 
>> It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
>> through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
>> says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
>> it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
>> pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
>> messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
> 
> Try fetchmail.

Another basic debugging technique is just to connect to the POP3 server
using telnet and see what happens.

But even better would be to turn on logging in Evolution. Does it have
logging? How do you turn it on? Sometimes programs give more information
if you start them from a console.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

> It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
> through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
> says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
> it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
> pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
> messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.

Try fetchmail.

It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then
forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if 
you ask it to.

Sample .fetchmailrc file:

- -*-*-*
set postmaster "cer"
set nobouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set syslog


poll nimrodel.valinor with proto imap, timeout 15, and tracepolls
user testing, with password a9e6i8o, is cer here, fetchall, and keep, 
and ssl
*-*-*-

You call it like "fetchmail -v". Or -v -v for more diagnostic messages.

It's man pages are good.



Then, you can also trace the connection using wireshark (aka ethereal), 
both in linux and windows.


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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Cole-Tuchler


- Original Message - 
From: "Carlos E. R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "OS-en" 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail



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The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the 
Windows
machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send 
and

receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other
account.


I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the
remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to
it.

An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and
unreliable.

- -- 
Cheers,

  Carlos E. R.


It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes 
through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it 
says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until 
it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I 
pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the 
messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.


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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 9/17/07, Random P. Numbers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
> SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that
> I miss?

I do not think there are any extra repos ... however, SLED 10 is
essentially similar to OpenSuse 10.1 ... so I have successfully used
this repo to add programs that were otherwise unavailable.

I like SLED (by that I mean some of the nice additions ... VPN in
network manager, the Helix Banshee offering especially after SP1, the
fact that it comes with the GroupWise client, etc ... )  but the
slimmer package repo and the much much smaller community means that
there are specific to sled issues that are sometimes difficult to
resolve. Plus the much slower dev/update cycle can be frustrating.

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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Gaël Lams
Hi,

> Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
> SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that
> I miss?

Did you check the SDK stuff?

> Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
> so will it include KDE4?

I don't think so: SP1 has "just" been released

> Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
> include more packages than the downloadable one?

I don't think so: by downloading the dvd iso you get what you have in
the box (apart maybe from a printed manual)

> Is it possible to "Upgrade" SLED evaluation
> to 10.3?

These are different "products". You should choose between the
"entreprise" version and the "opensuse"  version. You have to decide
what is important for you: if you want a lot of "updated" software, go
with the opensuse distribution. SLED10 Service Packs will give you
some updated softwares (firefow went from 1.5 to 2.x, new kernel, ...)
but nothing similar to opensuse, as Novell could not provide support
to all the software around.

Kind regards,

Gaël


[opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Nixon
Hi Guys

I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server 
to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user 
accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into 
production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users 
with the following error:

# useradd 00c002f8dfe9
useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.

I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's 
version of useradd:

"The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the rest 
of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_]
[A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$])."

Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a 
working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to change 
the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number (because they 
are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed software using this 
system which would take months to update.

How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?

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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 13:14 +0200, Random P. Numbers wrote:

> Is it possible to "Upgrade" SLED evaluation
> to 10.3? 

No.

I'm not even sure that's an upgrade, they are kind of diferent distros.

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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Magnus Boman
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 13:14 +0200, Random P. Numbers wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
> SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that 
> I miss?

Go to software.opensuse.org/search and have a look if you can find them
there.

> 
> Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
> so will it include KDE4?

Not sure when SP2 is due but pretty confident that you wont see KDE4 in
there. A SP will normally be bug/security fixes only (no version
upgrades).

> 
> Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
> include more packages than the downloadable one?

No, the ISO and the boxed DVD are the same.

> 
> Is it possible to "Upgrade" SLED evaluation
> to 10.3? 


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[opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Random P. Numbers
Hi

Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that 
I miss?

Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
so will it include KDE4?

Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
include more packages than the downloadable one?

Is it possible to "Upgrade" SLED evaluation
to 10.3? 
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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:26 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
> 
>>> Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only
>>> read.
>> Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
>> database view. Clunks a bit however
> 
> I can write to single tables, not those with relation active. I'll try to 
> explain again...
> 
> My Library "Libros" table (simplified) is shown like this:
> 
>TitleAuthor_nm
> -- - 
> Robots and Empire 1
> Rendezvous with Rama  2
> 
> I can create a new entry, but I have to look up manually the number of the 
> corresponding author, and write up the number, not the name. Do you 
> see what I mean?
> 
> This is useless.
> 
> I can create a table view, that combines two tables, like this:
> 
>BooksAuthors
>   ---  -
>Book_ID+---> Author_ID
>Title  | Author
>Author_ID -+
> 
> 
> Now, the view shows correctly:
> 
>TitleAuthor
> -- -
> Robots and Empire  Asimov
> Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke
> 
> But it is Read Only. Again, useless.
> 
> 
> Do you understand the problem now?
> 

I understand the problem.

I have a form with a sub-form linked via an index... Whenever I select
an entry in primary form I see all relevant entries linked in the
sub-form... Can edit and update records in both form and sub-form...,

Table structure is roughly

Table A

Index, data

Table B

Index, Link to A index, data

Form to Sub form relationship based on linking field 1 to field 2...

Your structure implies a read only join...

Adding a new subform entry is clunky... and adding primary entries is
definitely very clunky indeed (when committing a new entry tend to keep
ending up on first record in table, so you have to go to the last entry
and continue from there).



> 
> All the above works perfectly, and much faster and with less complexity, 
> with Rekall.
> 

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread jdd

Eberhard Roloff wrote:


Actually I had concluded, that package management is not what I do for a
living, otherwise I would have switched to Ubuntu for long. ;-))


two years ago, I had so many problems with debian package management I 
stopped trying it.


that is not to say openSUSE one don't need enhancement.

I remember Yast,... many years ago was not so slow on much less 
powerfull machines than today. I hope a solution will be shown in 
final 10.3 (in 10.1, even without zen, it's desperatly slow)


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

> I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows
> machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and
> receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other
> account. 

I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the 
remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to 
it. 

An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and 
unreliable.

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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:03 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

> > The point of using mirrors is that you use diferent systems. My update
> > have not broken or failed when you had those problems.
> 
> Except, when something takes out both original and mirrors e.g. the
> recent packman blip...(which had little to do with SuSE). What I did
> find a little irritating in the latter case I got no option to disable
> but only the option to delete the offending location.

The only thing that can take out the whole thing is a bad file being 
distributed from suse to all the mirrors.

If one of the servers is down, when Yast checks it and fails, it will pop 
up a dialog: just tell it to ignore that source.

True, the whole thing should be worked out better, so that you can cancel 
anytime, or skip any time, and get better info, because the message 
always says something about the CD/DVD being bad, not about the remote 
source unless you make it show the details.

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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:26 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

> > Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only
> > read.
> 
> Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
> database view. Clunks a bit however

I can write to single tables, not those with relation active. I'll try to 
explain again...

My Library "Libros" table (simplified) is shown like this:

   TitleAuthor_nm
- -- - 
Robots and Empire 1
Rendezvous with Rama  2

I can create a new entry, but I have to look up manually the number of the 
corresponding author, and write up the number, not the name. Do you 
see what I mean?

This is useless.

I can create a table view, that combines two tables, like this:

   BooksAuthors
  ---  -
   Book_ID+---> Author_ID
   Title  | Author
   Author_ID -+


Now, the view shows correctly:

   TitleAuthor
- -- -
Robots and Empire  Asimov
Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke

But it is Read Only. Again, useless.


Do you understand the problem now?


All the above works perfectly, and much faster and with less complexity, 
with Rekall.

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[opensuse] Re: Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
>> I got this yesterday or the day before as well and it is continuing now,
>> in my case through the YAST software update/installer app.
>>
>> This is a general subject that has been bothering me, specifically I
>> don't understand why pkg management under SUSE is so painful.  There are
>> some basic things that I find curious:
> [..]
> 
> If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be
> this whole packaging and install source thing.
> It's fscking ridiculous that there are 4 or 5 different tools for
> openSUSE, and none of them do what they're supposed to do, flawless,
> all the time.
> I'm not saying that there should only be one, I'm all for choice,
> but having 4 or 5 early Bèta stage tools, and no mature versions, is
> a bloody pain.
> 
> Theo
In regard to Package Management, you always can have a look at Ubuntu or
Debian fopr tha tMatter. They may not have Yast but their Package
Management works greatly.

Actually I had concluded, that package management is not what I do for a
living, otherwise I would have switched to Ubuntu for long. ;-))

Kind regards
Eberhard

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[opensuse] Re: No access to DVD-Drives

2007-09-17 Thread Kostas Georgokitsos
On Friday 14 September 2007 15:43, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-09-14 at 13:28 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
> > > Here you go:
> > >
> > > /dev/hdc /media/dvd   iso9660 
> > > noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> > > /dev/hdd /media/dvdrecorder   iso9660 
> > > noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> >
> > It looks as if the automount is being fired up by the KDE Media Manager.
> > The reference to /media/hdc suggests that something is not quite right
> > with the configuration of KDE media player, unfortunately it rather
> > seems that you can only enable or disable this module and there does not
> > seem to anything to configure it...
>
> As I don't have 10.1 installed now, I can't verify it, but I think that
> the fstab line is wrong: it mixes two types of automounting.
>
> If he relies on KDE/Gnome automounting, then those two lines have to be
> disabled, for instance, commenting them out.
>
> Otherwise, rewrite it. For instance:
>
> /dev/dvd  /media/dvd  auto  ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
>
>
> or what I use:
>
>
> /dev/dvd  /mnt/dvd auto   ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
>
>
> so as no to interfere with the /media directory.

That was it. Thanks! I commented them out. I seldom do mount those manually.


Thanks again, this whole thing was really annoying.

Kostas
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 beta install does not recognize raid drives

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 16:39 +0800, Art Fore wrote:
>> When I install 10.3 Beta3, it does not recognize the raid drive setup
>> from the previous beta2 install, same with beta2, it did not recognize
>> the beta1 install on raid. I have to go through and create the raid1
>> drives each time. Is there any secret to get these permanent? It does
>> recognize a backup raid and wants to install on it.
>> 
>> Art
>> 
> Well, this went from bad to worse. On initial reboot when it is
> installing the boot loader, it cannot find md3 which is where it just
> installed everything. Raid is as follows.
>
> md0   raid1   /boot   101 MB
> md1   raid0   swap1 GB
> md3   raid1   /   20 GB
> md4   raid1   /home   267 GB
>
> When booting, it comes up it cannot find /dev/md3 for initrd
>
> Has procedures changed for installing on raid or is this a bug.

Please file a critical bug at bugs.opensuse.org,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 19:16 +0200, primm wrote:
> 
>> The frontend to MySQL is just wonderful. Have to have it. The report 
>> creation 
>> is almost there too. Dragging to create relationships is better than Access 
>> Can't swap now. . .
> 
> Rekall or OOo base?
> 
> Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only 
> read.

Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
database view. Clunks a bit however
> 
> I can create a "View" like this from two tables:
> 
>   BooksAuthors
>  ---  -
>   Book_ID+---> Author_ID
>   Title  | Author
>   Author_ID -+
> 

Got something which does something similar

> If I open the "Books" table, I see "Author_ID" by number. I can create a 
> view, and see "Title" and "Author", in what OOo names "views", but they 
> are read only. Further more, once created the view, I can't go back and 
> change/add relations, it shows a different view of it, one that shows only 
> "Title" and "Author" as Text[Varchar], but not where they come from and 
> their relations, as if it were a new table.
> 
> Useless. :-(

Not entirely...,

Main gripe is that under the hood is some OpenOffice scripting... but
the documentation for the scripting language is to put it at its
politest sparse the last time I looked at it 

There are somethings I would like to do (e.g. put in a template selector
for a default template) and do something about path handling so I do not
have to create different versions of the same template for Windows and
LInux.


> 
> 

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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
>> I got this yesterday or the day before as well and it is continuing now,
>> in my case through the YAST software update/installer app.
>>
>> This is a general subject that has been bothering me, specifically I
>> don't understand why pkg management under SUSE is so painful.  There are
>> some basic things that I find curious:
> [..]
> 
> If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be

You mean the same Mac which occasionally ship patches which break or
remove features from users systems :-)

No, update system is likely to be perfect, and most experienced sys
admin on all platforms test these things out to find out if anything
breaks before deploying. For home users or smaller outfits this is
problematic as the resources do not usually exist to this kind of checking,




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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 12:22 -0400, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
> 
>> Do I?  Maybe.  I think that choosing a mirror is in fact choosing a
>> single point of failure.  Choosing any single system is a single point
>> of failure.  
> 
> The point of using mirrors is that you use diferent systems. My update 
> have not broken or failed when you had those problems.
> 

Except, when something takes out both original and mirrors e.g. the
recent packman blip...(which had little to do with SuSE). What I did
find a little irritating in the latter case I got no option to disable
but only the option to delete the offending location.

This is the first major problem I have noticed with the primary SuSE
repositories for quite some time. IMHO Compared to some other
maintenance and download services (e.g. CPAN and Eclipse) it is on a par...

Unfortunately, this is one those things one tends to notice when it is
not working, and forget about when it does. It also seems to occur more
frequently at weekends or public holidays when there is no-one on site
and in the case of hardware failure, no suppliers around to replace the
broken kit...



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