Re: Help With PZ-1

2001-07-08 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:44:13 -0700, Jimmy James wrote:

Hi Jimmy, I checked most stuff with my Z1 manual handy.
I don't have a PZ-1p, it differs slightly on some points)

>I recently got a PZ-1 used.
>I have been able to piece together most of the cameras abilities, however I
>still can not decipher a few of the Pentax Functions. Some I was able to
>decipher using an online PZ-1p manual, but i need a bit more help.
>
>Function 2: Does this setting (P) apply to the HypP mode as well, or only
>the P mode ?

Yes, Hypermode is affected too

>Function 7: M   setting 0 = S setting 1 = P . what do these stand for?

0 = S stands for stepwise changing time/aperture (Tv/Av) with the wheels
1 = P stands for continous changing, no steps

(I can't see much of a difference though, tried both, both seem to use 1/2 EV steps)

>Function 9: Flash Mode   setting 0 = blank  setting 1 = 35 . what does this
>mean?

0 = builtin flash will fire (if you opened it :-), even when subject is too far away 
for proper exposure
1 = 35 means the builtin flash will be NOT be fired if the subject is too far away

>Function 10: Flash Mode setting 0 = blank setting 1 = L . ???

0 = Shutter (and builtin flash) will fire, even if not completely recharged
1 = shutter and flash will NOT fire when flash is not completely recharged
   (because shot would probably be underexposed anyway)

>Function 13: Zoom Track setting 0 = blank setting 1 = 0 setting 2 = small 0
>. ???

0 = track last used image-size
1 = track at full-size portrait (whole figure in the frame)
2 = track at half-size portrait (just upper-half of person in frame)

>Function 14: Zoom Clip setting 0 = 1 setting 1 = 2 . ???

Note: Z1 only has two positions here, differs from PZ-1p ?

0 = remember just one focal-length
1 = remember two different focal lengths for zoom-clip


>Function 15: M/Zoom Effect setting 0 = no setting 1 = blank

0 = Power zoom disabled while exposing
1 = Power zoom available while exposing (to create 'zoom effects')

>Function 17: AF setting 0 = 0.- setting 1 = 0.L . ???

0 = ML button only sets exposure values
1 = ML button also triggers auto-focus
(only works in [single] AF mode)

>Function 18: AF/Zoom Track setting 0 = -- setting 1 = 15 . ???

0 = while image-tracking, fire shutter when focus is achieved (even if image-size 
still changing)
1 = fire shutter only when image-size is constant (so it is properly tracking the size)

>-->  How do I save a User Setting, and access it later ?

Don't know, the Z1 does not have a user-setting :-(

>-->  Does the IF button serve a purpose, other than to choose the correst
>exposure when using manual mode?
>

In the HyperProgram mode it will return you to the default program-line
when you shifted that using the dials ...

Regards, JvW
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RE: ZX-5N?

2001-07-08 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:03:10 +1000, John Coyle wrote:

>I have the ZX5, which I'm reasonably certain is not much different to the 5n in 
>viewfinder construction.  I find it easy enough to shade the eyepiece with one 
>hand to check the exposure information in bright sunlight.  Are you aware of 
>_any_ SLR camera that will not have this problem in the same conditions 
>(particularly if you wear glasses)?

Sure, the Pentax LX :-)

Regards, JvW

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re: 6x7 loupes

2001-07-08 Thread David A. Mann

Frantisek writes:

> Horizon loupes (made by Russian or Ukrainian company, please our fellow 
> Ukrainians nor Russian do not get angry at me! I am reall not sure which xOMZ 
> makes this loupe) are pretty good for the low price, and they make an 6x6cm 4x 
> one. I will have a look next time I see it if it covers 6x7cm. The loupes are 
> realyl very cheap, several times cheaper than competition, but quality is 
> certainly similar to competition - I tried a 10x loupe with haircross measure 
> and found it excellent). 

 Thanks for the tip.  The Horizon 10x you mention may be the same one I 
bought yesterday.  The bit of glass at the bottom with the lines on it is 
impossible to keep clean... I may end up removing it (it's easily unscrewed).

 Also the multicoating could be better.  I've noticed internal reflections when I 
get the lightbox shining through the sprocket holes.  But since this loupe is only 
used for checking sharpness I'm not too worried.  It's quite a nice loupe and 
was definitely the best that the shop had on offer (I would have liked a Pentax 
zoom loupe...).

Cheers,


- Dave

David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

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Re: Pushing Provia 100F

2001-07-08 Thread David A. Mann

Jaros³aw Brzeziñski writes:

> When 
> examining the results, however, I decided to go back to my all-time 
> favourite i.e. Velvia. For landscapes and nature, which constitute 
> the main body of my work, no E-6 film compares.

 If Velvia is what you're used to, nothing else will compare (except maybe 
Kodak E100VS).

 I'm not really fond of the stuff but I keep a couple of rolls around for when I 
want the extra "punch".

Cheers,


- Dave

David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
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OT: Bookmark the KMP again

2001-07-08 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi to all who use Internet Epxlorer 5.0 or later,

By following these steps, you can get an icon that is suited to the content
of the KMP:

- remove your existing bookmark(s) of the KMP,
- go to another web page, http://www.carus.de/ for example,
- go to http://www.BDimitrov.de/kmp/
- create the bookmark again.

Cheers,
Boz

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   0(` O-O ')0   A. Einstein
===ooO=(_)=Ooo===
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.BDimitrov.de/kmp/
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Re: Help With PZ-1

2001-07-08 Thread Rfsindg

JJ,

Look at these two web pages...

>> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1a.jpg
>> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1b.jpg

They are copies of a wallet card that came with my PZ-1.  
They will explain most of your questions.

You change the user functions by turning the index finger dial one click (or 
is it the thumb dial?).  In either case, play with it and you can watch it 
change in the display.

The IF function resets to the automaticly correct combination of shutter 
speed and aperture.  After twiddling the dials for a while in any mode, you 
can loose track of where you are and the button gets you back to ground zero 
in a hurry.

Regards,  Bob S.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I recently got a PZ-1 used.
 I have been able to piece together most of the cameras abilities, however I
 still can not decipher a few of the Pentax Functions. Some I was able to
 decipher using an online PZ-1p manual, but i need a bit more help.
 
 Function 2: Does this setting (P) apply to the HypP mode as well, or only
 the P mode ?
 Function 7: M   setting 0 = S setting 1 = P . what do these stand for?
 Function 9: Flash Mode   setting 0 = blank  setting 1 = 35 . what does this
 mean?
 Function 10: Flash Mode setting 0 = blank setting 1 = L . ???
 Function 13: Zoom Track setting 0 = blank setting 1 = 0 setting 2 = small 0
 . ???
 Function 14: Zoom Clip setting 0 = 1 setting 1 = 2 . ???
 Function 15: M/Zoom Effect setting 0 = no setting 1 = blank
 Function 17: AF setting 0 = 0.- setting 1 = 0.L . ???
 Function 18: AF/Zoom Track setting 0 = -- setting 1 = 15 . ???
 -->  How do I save a User Setting, and access it later ?
 -->  Does the IF button serve a purpose, other than to choose the correst
 exposure when using manual mode?
 
 Thank You
 
 JJ
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Re: My wonderful day, sort of OT

2001-07-08 Thread Keith Zimmerman


>Subject: Re: My wonderful day, sort of OT

>>>really felt nice to read about your nice day.
i was thrilled too.  actually, it reminds me - long back not only during my
school even during college days too i used to paint - and those concepts of
composition still stand valid in photography.  in fact, i kind of moved to
photography on account of lack of time - couldn't find that much time to do
a painting - especially portraits.  with camera, you can do a lot.  and then
i somehow stuck with camera only.  however, as i was reading your message,
it struck me again - light, composition, colors, contrast, all those things
we talk in photography - are basically inherited from painting.

>Like the subject says, it was my wonderful day. I just thought I'd share a
>bit of it with the list.


Jon, I, too was taken by your day.  Like Anand, I used to paint along with
the
study of Art History.  The camera (Pentax) has given me the means to express
myself and retain the artistic side of my nature.   The studies done in
college went a long way to train me about light, compostion, color, and
contrast, meaning that when I picked up a camera, I primarily needed to
learn the technique of using the camera as a tool, and didn't have the
complication of having to learn the artistic tools at the same time.  I
congratulate you for spending the time with you aunt,learning what she had
to teach you.

Keith Zimmerman
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Re: linear polarizer for 35-105/3.5?

2001-07-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 8, 2001 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: linear polarizer for 35-105/3.5?


> thinking of getting a polarizer for my "new" A35-105/3.5 lens
which should be
> arriving this week.
>
> i've always thought that circular polarizers were for
autofocus lens and that
> linear were for manual focus.

Its not the lens, but the exposure system. If your camera uses a
beam splitter, then you want a circular polarizer. All autofocus
cameras, and from this groups perspective, the LX require a
circular polarizer.
William Robb



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Re: linear polarizer for 35-105/3.5?

2001-07-08 Thread RobFilms

thinking of getting a polarizer for my "new" A35-105/3.5 lens which should be 
arriving this week.

i've always thought that circular polarizers were for autofocus lens and that 
linear were for manual focus.

does that apply to the A35-105/3.5?

thanks in advance

robo
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Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!

2001-07-08 Thread SJMarriott

doh!

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Thornsberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Check out this weird ebay auction!


> Not so.  Even if you take delivery by e-mail there is a shipping charge.
>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!
>
>
> If you bid 1c and round down it'll cost you nothing!
>
>
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!
>
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> > I'm in Melbourne Australia and we ditched the 1c coin about 5 years ago
at
> a
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> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
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> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!
> >
> >
> > > ...of one cent :) Hey do you guys still have 1c coins?
> > >
> > > --- Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1253139794
> > >
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Re: PZ-1p

2001-07-08 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:31:36 -0400 (EDT), Harry Baughman wrote:

>you will not be sorry. i have two of them and  imo  

I know I really enjoyed shooting with the Z-1 so I'm sure I will not be disappointed. 
:-)

>it is still one of the best bodies pentax ever built.

Won't get me to argue about that!  :-)

Thanks for the reply!




Later,
Gary


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pz-1 and weather sealing

2001-07-08 Thread Bob Keefer



Caught in passing on the list a remark to the effect that the 
PZ-1 is better sealed than its successor, the PZ-1p.
 
Is it so?
 
 


OT: Omega D2V accessories

2001-07-08 Thread Jim & Jackie Meeks

I had recently been trying to align my enlarger, thought I had it and of
course found out I hadn't quite got it. I read about a couple of
do-it-yourself methods and saw several fairly expensive units through mail
order. Then I did a search for accessories for my old Omega D2V enlarger and
came across a Mr. Taylor of Classic Enlargers in Stamford, CT, and he sells
a unit for $70. Has anyone tried this model or swear by one or another
method or name brand?

He also sells glass negative carriers and I was wondering about buying one.
Since I make prints no larger than 11x14, will I see any difference?

If anyone has a thought on one or both of these burning questions, I would
greatly appreciate an answer.

Jim

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Ltd. lenses and color choice

2001-07-08 Thread Jim & Jackie Meeks

Speaking of silver and black and the Limited lens line, does anyone know if,
or when the option to buy black is coming? How about when the 31mm will be
available?

Jim

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Re: MD / exposure check button

2001-07-08 Thread Peter Alling

First off, I hate you.  Now that that's out of the way
early LX's didn't have that feature.  The manual that 
you received may not match the camera you bought.  On
the other hand there may be a reason for the low purchase
price.
At 04:14 PM 7/8/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Hi
All
I am a newbie to the Pentax User Group so I'll
introduce myself first.
 
Started out plus or minus twenty years ago
with  Ricoh KR5, great 
cheap ( inexpensive? )camera that it was, I
swiftly wore out the shutter.
Next came my beloved and since stolen Pentax
MG. This was replaced
with an ME Super which I used for a number of
years. Then I was tempted
by a MZ50, wow autofocus!! Then I found an
absolutely mint Spotmatic SPII
 
Two weeks ago I found a second hand LX and am
feeling like James Brown!!
I picked up an LX body, 50 f1.7, 24 f2.8 and a
80 - 200 f4.5 SMC Pentax 
lenses, an AF280T flask with flash bracket and
both the standard FA-1 
viewfinder and a FB-1 / FC-1 finder. All of
this for R2500.00. That is South
African Rands!! Divide this by eight to equate
to $ US. Anyone green yet?!?
 
To get to the crux of the matter, The
handbook,( yes, I got one of those as well!)
says that the MD/exposure check botton, in the
center of the viewfinder release
lever, should activate the light meter. Well,
mine does not. Is this specific to 
certain bodies, as I have heard, or should all
LX's work in this way or does this 
only work with a winder or motor drive attached
which I have still to locate?
 
Many Thanks in advance to the learned members
of this forum.
 
Mark Cooper


Re: OT: Nicads

2001-07-08 Thread Peter Alling

Depends on what kind of nicads you want to discharge.  If they are one of 
the standard sizes
say AA C or D cells just put them in the appropriate flash light and leave 
it on.  You could take
one of special purpose nicad packs for a flash unit and bridge the positive 
and negative poles with
a bit of wire and something to supply the appropriate resistance.

At 03:36 PM 7/8/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>What's a good way to discharge nicad batteries so I can recharge them again?
>
>Thanks,
>Jim A.
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Re: Nicads

2001-07-08 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

Get a "conditioning" nicad charger that does it for you.  Radio Shack, for
example, sells of number of units that has this feature.  They also have the
peak detection circuitry to avoid overcharging nicads and damaging their
life.

Cheers,
Gerald

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To: "Pentax Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: OT: Nicads


> What's a good way to discharge nicad batteries so I can recharge them
again?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim A.
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Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread Jaros³aw Brzeziñski

You are absolutely right but...
If heavily scratched, black paint did come off chrome bodies but 
please remember that - in contrast to retro-style-nostalgia silver 
paint on AF bodies - it was not put there just for the "looks". Black 
paint made bodies less conspicuous and protected metal against the 
elements and rust. Of course scratches in black paint are visible but 
do not miss the point I made: scratches on silver chrome bodies are 
hardly visible but such a body is not protected. Black finish used to 
work for the photographer's benefit. On the other hand, silver finish 
is applied just to make plastic bodies look attractive. When you 
scratch it, the damage is visible but not more devestating to the 
body than it is the case with all-black plastic bodies.

aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał / wrote: 

> Hi,
> 
> I've been having these thoughts lately.  I wanted to see if it's 
only me
> that thinks this way and whether I NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP or not.
> 
> It seems to me that if I was to buy a metal camera, like the MX or 
K's, that
> a model with a "silver" prism and top plate would be better because 
it's
> more durable than a black painted prism and top plate.  The black 
pain would
> probably be easier to get scratched and would be more noticeable 
than a
> blemish on the "chrome".
> 
> OTOH, If I was going to buy a newer camera with a non-metal outer 
skin, it
> seems that a black one would be better because the "fake chrome" is 
is more
> likely to get nicked, marked up, rub off.
> 
> Please respond as I am driving myself crazy. :-)
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
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OT: Nicads

2001-07-08 Thread Jim Apilado

What's a good way to discharge nicad batteries so I can recharge them again?

Thanks,
Jim A. 
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Who wants used Pentax stuff

2001-07-08 Thread Pentaxclover



Hello,
I find someone who want to sell a Z-1, but used 
one.
Is anybody interested ?
 
 
Clover


ZX-5N?

2001-07-08 Thread Joseph Tainter

If you shoot much in bright sunlight, the 5n's design is flawed. You
cannot read the exposure information in the viewfinder, and it isn't
given on the external lcd. So you don't know your exposure in program
mode. This is what kept me from buying one. Still, many like it.

Joe
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Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: "Michel Adam" <
Subject: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?



>
> Has it come down to that even apparently reputable magazines
are charging an entry
> fee, like all the scam photo publications outfit we hear
about?
>
Photo life is reputable? They are pretty much the bottom feeders
of the photopublications, IMHO.

> And to top it all, the government of Canada, via it's
information office, reserves the right
> to use your submitted photo on one of their web site! (Rule 10
of the contest).

Wrong, Photo Life has sold rights to the entries to the
Government of Canada. This allows them to make money on all
fronts. Pretty scummy, but if you want to enter the contest,
they do get to make the rules. You can choose to enter and abide
by them, or not enter. I wouldn't enter it, myself
>
> I don't normally pay attention to contests, since they usually
exclude non-residents of
> whichever country (usually the U.S.) the magazine is published
from, but this one, being
> 'local', so to speak, caught my eye. And they even made the
contest international in nature!
>
> Is this fee thing an aberration or standard practice nowadays
?

Contests used to be about increasing circulation by getting
people involved, and hanging a carrot in front of them. The
times seem to be changing, unfortunately.
>
> And what does it say about all the sponsors/prize providers
(Kodak is one of them...) ?
> I don't see how that would help the Canada Information Office
to have pictures of Penguin
> for winner in the Nature category (but then again, what are we
to expect from bureaucrats,
> business smarts ?).

I doubt if the sponsors were aware of the entry rules prior to
the contest. If you want to hurt Photo life on this one, I would
send real, on paper, in envelopes, with a stamp on them,
complaints to the sponsors. My opinion, they deserve to get
their pee-pee whacked.
William Robb


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re: 6x7 loupes

2001-07-08 Thread canislupus

Hi!
Horizon loupes (made by Russian or Ukrainian company, please our fellow 
Ukrainians nor Russian do not get angry at me! I am reall not sure which xOMZ 
makes this loupe) are pretty good for the low price, and they make an 6x6cm 4x 
one. I will have a look next time I see it if it covers 6x7cm. The loupes are 
realyl very cheap, several times cheaper than competition, but quality is 
certainly similar to competition - I tried a 10x loupe with haircross measure 
and found it excellent). 

So, I will reply more when I try the 6x6cm one out.

Frantisek

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Re: Pushing Provia 100F

2001-07-08 Thread Pål Jensen

Joseph wrote:

> I found color saturation low and
> images overall bland. This was especially the case with blue. The film
> somehow took New Mexico's amazing blue sky, even shot with a polarizer,
> and rendered it flat and uninteresting. While I'm happy with this film
> overall, I won't shoot it at ISO 200 again.


This is one of the caracteristics of Provia F, pushed or not; the total inability to 
render blue sky in a way that remotely resembles something that can be experienced on 
this planet. 
My experience is that polarizers won't help much either.


Pål


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Re: MD / exposure check button

2001-07-08 Thread Pål Jensen



The early LX'es (very early BTW) did not have meter 
activation with the MD button. 
 
 


  To get to the crux of the matter, The handbook,( 
  yes, I got one of those as well!)
  says that the MD/exposure check botton, in the 
  center of the viewfinder release
  lever, should activate the light meter. Well, 
  mine does not. Is this specific to 
  certain bodies, as I have heard, or should all 
  LX's work in this way or does this 
  only work with a winder or motor drive attached 
  which I have still to locate?
   
   
   
   
   


Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread Todd Stanley


The solution is easy, you need one of those chrome MZ-S's that are on the
Japanese website...

Todd

At 11:06 PM 7/8/01 +1000, you wrote:
>
>My wife and I keep arguing about what colour Limited lenses to get. 
>She has a silver 43 for her MZ-3 and it looks silly on the front of my
>Z1p (feels and works REALLY well though - I do like the 43). I want to
>get a black 77mm so it looks good on my camera, she wants a silver on
>to match her 43. Trouble is we can't afford both!
>
>
> Leon
>
>http://www.bluering.org.au
>http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
>
>
>-

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PZ-1p

2001-07-08 Thread Gary L. Murphy

Well, I bit the bullett and sold my Z-1 and turned around and purchased a new PZ-1p 
from B&H...

Should have it around Thursday





Later,
Gary


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Re: A real bargain here!!! (K2 + K 50mm F1.4 for $125 BIN)

2001-07-08 Thread Todd Stanley


Hope you enjoy it!  Even at that bargain price I couldn't justify buying it
right now, so I figured the next best thing would be to let a list member
have it.

Todd


At 05:55 PM 7/7/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks Todd
>
>   I've been re-enabled . . . tough decision too.  The girlfriends dog
>just ate my glasses yesterday . . . it was either new glasses or the
>camera . . . guess I can see through my pictues for the next few months
>
>Illinois Bill
>
>Todd Stanley wrote:
>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1253436757
>>
>> Todd

>
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Re: Pushing Provia 100F

2001-07-08 Thread Mark D.

From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> While I'm happy with this film overall, I won't shoot it at ISO 200 again.

Hey Joe,

I've seen several samples of push-processed Provia 100F and they look great.
The recommendation I've heard (and seen the results from) is to rate the
film at 320 and do a 2 stop push.

Mark

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Help With PZ-1

2001-07-08 Thread Jimmy James

I recently got a PZ-1 used.
I have been able to piece together most of the cameras abilities, however I
still can not decipher a few of the Pentax Functions. Some I was able to
decipher using an online PZ-1p manual, but i need a bit more help.

Function 2: Does this setting (P) apply to the HypP mode as well, or only
the P mode ?
Function 7: M   setting 0 = S setting 1 = P . what do these stand for?
Function 9: Flash Mode   setting 0 = blank  setting 1 = 35 . what does this
mean?
Function 10: Flash Mode setting 0 = blank setting 1 = L . ???
Function 13: Zoom Track setting 0 = blank setting 1 = 0 setting 2 = small 0
. ???
Function 14: Zoom Clip setting 0 = 1 setting 1 = 2 . ???
Function 15: M/Zoom Effect setting 0 = no setting 1 = blank
Function 17: AF setting 0 = 0.- setting 1 = 0.L . ???
Function 18: AF/Zoom Track setting 0 = -- setting 1 = 15 . ???
-->  How do I save a User Setting, and access it later ?
-->  Does the IF button serve a purpose, other than to choose the correst
exposure when using manual mode?

Thank You

JJ

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MD / exposure check button

2001-07-08 Thread markcooper



Hi All
I am a newbie to the Pentax User Group so I'll 
introduce myself first.
 
Started out plus or minus twenty years ago 
with  Ricoh KR5, great 
cheap ( inexpensive? )camera that it was, I swiftly 
wore out the shutter.
Next came my beloved and since stolen Pentax MG. 
This was replaced
with an ME Super which I used for a number of 
years. Then I was tempted
by a MZ50, wow autofocus!! Then I found an 
absolutely mint Spotmatic SPII
 
Two weeks ago I found a second hand LX and am 
feeling like James Brown!!
I picked up an LX body, 50 f1.7, 24 f2.8 and a 80 - 
200 f4.5 SMC Pentax 
lenses, an AF280T flask with flash bracket and both 
the standard FA-1 
viewfinder and a FB-1 / FC-1 finder. All of this 
for R2500.00. That is South
African Rands!! Divide this by eight to equate to $ 
US. Anyone green yet?!?
 
To get to the crux of the matter, The handbook,( 
yes, I got one of those as well!)
says that the MD/exposure check botton, in the 
center of the viewfinder release
lever, should activate the light meter. Well, mine 
does not. Is this specific to 
certain bodies, as I have heard, or should all LX's 
work in this way or does this 
only work with a winder or motor drive attached 
which I have still to locate?
 
Many Thanks in advance to the learned members of 
this forum.
 
Mark Cooper


Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Ken Archer

These days most businesses aren't just "looking for new ways to turn a 
buck".  These days it's called "survival".

On Sunday 08 July 2001 11:48, Mike Johnston wrote:

> However, with the last contest that was underway when I quit, we were
> asking for an entry fee. The new "Director of Marketing" at the time
> was always looking for new ways to turn a buck, and insisted on an
> entry fee. I wanted no fee. I lost.
> --Mike
-- 
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Pushing Provia 100F

2001-07-08 Thread Joseph Tainter

In a word - yuch! I know that this film is supposed to push well, but
that claim usually refers to grain. I recently shot a role in northern
New Mexico on a bright, sunny day at ISO 200. This was just to try it
out. All shots were with a polarizer. I found color saturation low and
images overall bland. This was especially the case with blue. The film
somehow took New Mexico's amazing blue sky, even shot with a polarizer,
and rendered it flat and uninteresting. While I'm happy with this film
overall, I won't shoot it at ISO 200 again.

Sorry, but I don't have a web site to show what I got.

YMMV.

Joe
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Re: 6x7 loupes

2001-07-08 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

I've been using some old reading magnifiers with glass lenses.
They're not optically excellent as a nice Mamiya (plese,
don't shoot) or Pentax loupe.  But they only sell for a dollar
or so at garage sales (my summer home) or thrift shops (my
vacation spots).  Why spend $200 when some good magnifiers are
being almost given away?

jmho,

Collin

At 10:06 AM 7/8/01 -0400, you wrote:
>From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: 6x7 loupes
>
>Hi guys,
>
>  I'm after a low-magnification loupe (around 4X) which will allow full-frame
>viewing of a 6x7 slide.  So far I've been using the waist-level finder off my
>RB67 which is a less-than-ideal solution (particularly as I want to sell 
>the RB
>kit).
>
>  Or maybe I should just buy a 4x5, then I won't need a loupe :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>- - Dave


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Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Johnston

Jim wrote:

> I should acknowledge that the prizes being offered in this contest are very
> nice.  Nevertheless, with the kind of sponsors listed (Nikon, Lowepro,
> Mamiya, etc.) the magazine should be able to afford running a contest
> without charging that much to entrants.  Of course, maybe I'm just ignorant
> of the ways of good old Amer-uh, I mean Canadian business! :)


I can speak to this a bit, since I ran several contests for _Photo
Techniques_. First off, the prizes are donated, but the sponsors don't
provide any money beyond the prizes. It's relatively cheap for sponsors to
provide prizes because they're only out their own cost, often a fraction of
retail, and they can charge it to their PR budgets, and the exposure is
generally a lot cheaper than an ad.

It does cost the magazine quit a bit to run a contest. The man-hours spent
opening, sorting, acknowledging, judging, and returning all the entries is
significant. (_Camera & Darkroom_ used to run a contest every month, and had
a staffer just to deal with all the entries. The contest that was being run
at the time the magazine folded was a "postcard" contest, and I understand
crates full of postcards were thrown in the dumpster--along with all the
back issues (!)--when LFP shut the offices down.)

However, my position as editor was that photographers shouldn't participate
in "opportunities" that amount to a rip-off. We never ran contest
announcements in the "News & Products" section, for instance, if the contest
required an entry fee. A lot of contests, juried shows, and pay-to-publish
books are simply ways of making money for the organizers. I was always
adamant that with our contests, the payoff was reader involvement with the
magazine and goodwill, and that we should practice what we preach and not
ask for an entry fee.

However, with the last contest that was underway when I quit, we were asking
for an entry fee. The new "Director of Marketing" at the time was always
looking for new ways to turn a buck, and insisted on an entry fee. I wanted
no fee. I lost. 

I did argue the amount down quite a bit, though.

I strongly feel that magazines should run contests because of the intangible
benefits they get from doing so, or they shouldn't run contests at all. It
shouldn't be a question of grubbing up a few extra thousand dollars.

But that's just me--and I'm sure it's yet one more reason why I'm publishing
a scrappy little newsletter and no longer in the commercial magazine
business .

--Mike

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Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Johnston

Leon wrote:

> I want to
> get a black 77mm so it looks good on my camera, she wants a silver on
> to match her 43. Trouble is we can't afford both!


I can predict the result of this one, Leon. The two of you will compromise,
and buy silver. 



--Mike

P.S. You know why cameras don't come in a choice of ten colors? Because no
one would ever actually buy one. Photographers would be totally paralyzed
arguing endlessly over which color was best. 

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Re[2]: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

$10- for one competition is fine, perhaps (apart from the principle of
the thing), but students etc. need to enter 10, 20, 30 and more
competitions every year to build recognition with judges, to let them
know that one win or commendation isn't a fluke, that they have more
than one good photo etc. On this scale it stops being nominal, for a
student or a young aspiring professional who would rather spend their
money on film or printing.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sunday, July 08, 2001, 3:15:22 PM, you wrote:

> Hi, Bob,

> I understand what you're saying, and to some extent I agree.  It does appear that it
> might be the thin edge of the wedge.  Now it's $10, next time it's $25, then it's $50
> or $100.

> My point is that $10 is nominal.  Even if they're struggling photogs, they came up
> with the $$ for a camera, film, and processing.  Or film and chemicals to process.
> Surely $10 isn't the most expensive part of the whole deal.  Surely that entrance fee
> is not going to make or break the deal from an economic point of view.

> However, if one is morally offended by such a nominal entrance fee, one doesn't
> enter.  If enough people feel likewise, they won't have enough entries to have a
> decent contest.

> I'm not entering one way or the other, so it's all moot to me.  But I don't think
> economics enters into this one, imho.

> regards,
> frank

> Bob Walkden wrote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> > all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.
>>
>> ah, but where does that leave the non-frivolous struggling artists,
>> students etc. who may have genius but no money? If the idea of paying
>> to enter a serious competition became a widespread practice then it would
>> close off an important avenue to recognition for aspiring professionals
>> and would mean that competitions were not primarily about talent, but
>> about the ability to pay. A great many of the best-known photographers in
>> the world got their break through competitions.
>>
>> ---
>>
>>  Bob
>>
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Sunday, July 08, 2001, 1:02:50 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> > Jim wrote:
>>
>> >>   But $10 and up seems excessive to me,
>>
>> > Hey, it's only Canadian dollars!  That's only about $5 US.
>>
>> > But seriously, I'm not that offended by the entry fee.  Yes, with all those
>> > sponsors there shouldn't be one.  But it really is nominal (Canadian dollars and
>> > all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.
>>
>> > I don't see it as a really big deal, one way or the other.
>>
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Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread John Mustarde

On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 02:04:02 -0700, you wrote:

>>I've been having these thoughts lately.  I wanted to see if it's only me
>>that thinks this way and whether I NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP or not.
>>
>>It seems to me that if I was to buy a metal camera, like the MX or K's, 
>>that
>>a model with a "silver" prism and top plate would be better because it's
>>more durable than a black painted prism and top plate.  The black pain 
>>would
>>probably be easier to get scratched and would be more noticeable than a
>>blemish on the "chrome".

I've had Pentax K2 and ME Super cameras in both
versions, chrome or black. 

I thought the black versions were beautiful and
deserved to be kept in mint condition. So I sold them.

I didn't wan't my photography to be influenced by
whether or not the camera will remain beautiful.

Later, I somehow again acquired a mint black ME Super.
That darn thing just sits on the shelf exuding
minty-ness. 

I hate it.



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The 37th Frame

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Johnston

Incidentally, I think I got more pre-publication subscriptions to my new
newsletter from the PDML than from any other place, and I really want to
thank all of you for your generous support. I'm really very grateful and
quite complimented that people would actually pay for such a thing
sight-unseen. The newsletter got a LOT of subscriptions in advance from a
lot of different sources, which of course really pleases me.

Although every dollar helped of course, it was actually Albano Garcia's
subscription which put the newsletter "over the top" and sent it off to the
printer!

Issue 1 is at the printer now and should be ready at the end of next week. I
ended up making it significantly longer than originally planned (well, you
know how I tend to go on ). Although the lens report in this issue is of
a Nikon lens, a Pentax lens will get prominent treatment in issue number 2.

--Mike

www.luminous-landscape.com/m-johnston.htm


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Re: Oh, the Leica-lovin' LUGGERS

2001-07-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 09:29:41 -0500, Mike Johnston wrote:

> I think that's called being "two-faced," eh?

If I had two faces do you think I'd be wearing _this_ one!? :-)

TTYL, DougF

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Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Frank Theriault

Hi, Bob,

I understand what you're saying, and to some extent I agree.  It does appear that it
might be the thin edge of the wedge.  Now it's $10, next time it's $25, then it's $50
or $100.

My point is that $10 is nominal.  Even if they're struggling photogs, they came up
with the $$ for a camera, film, and processing.  Or film and chemicals to process.
Surely $10 isn't the most expensive part of the whole deal.  Surely that entrance fee
is not going to make or break the deal from an economic point of view.

However, if one is morally offended by such a nominal entrance fee, one doesn't
enter.  If enough people feel likewise, they won't have enough entries to have a
decent contest.

I'm not entering one way or the other, so it's all moot to me.  But I don't think
economics enters into this one, imho.

regards,
frank

Bob Walkden wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.
>
> ah, but where does that leave the non-frivolous struggling artists,
> students etc. who may have genius but no money? If the idea of paying
> to enter a serious competition became a widespread practice then it would
> close off an important avenue to recognition for aspiring professionals
> and would mean that competitions were not primarily about talent, but
> about the ability to pay. A great many of the best-known photographers in
> the world got their break through competitions.
>
> ---
>
>  Bob
>
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sunday, July 08, 2001, 1:02:50 PM, you wrote:
>
> > Jim wrote:
>
> >>   But $10 and up seems excessive to me,
>
> > Hey, it's only Canadian dollars!  That's only about $5 US.
>
> > But seriously, I'm not that offended by the entry fee.  Yes, with all those
> > sponsors there shouldn't be one.  But it really is nominal (Canadian dollars and
> > all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.
>
> > I don't see it as a really big deal, one way or the other.
>
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Oh, the Leica-lovin' LUGGERS

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Johnston

Shel B. wrote:

>> Boy, would this ever get me in trouble over on
>> the Leica list. Please, nobody quote me. 
> 
> You're already in trouble over there.  Your name has come up a
> few times and has sparked "spirited" debate amongst the pro-
> and con- Johnston factions.


Heh. That's because I slew a couple of the pompous and/or brainless twits
over there with my rapier wit, steely logic, and verbal thrust-and-parry,
and the only way they can win an argument with me is now that I'm NOT EVEN
THERE. 

So they're seizing their opportunity.

There's one fellow in particular who is so remarkably incoherent that he
seems not to write English. What he writes is some language that uses
similar words, but follows a different syntax and seems to have either no
grammar at all or else a very flexible grammar that shifts like the wind or
the weather. Add in frequent misspellings, nonstandard line formatting,
apparent attempts at humor and onomatopoeia, and a complete absence of the
patience to proofread, and the results would be alarming to any eighth-grade
English teacher. If the fellow's thoughts are even half so jumbled as his
expression of them, then his head must be a very difficult place indeed to
inhabit. 

That same guy is obsessed with the notion that I'm guilty of a high crime
because I dared to not put Leica in first place on the list of "The World's
25 Best Cameras" that I wrote for _Photo Techniques_. This evidently
tortures him, because he returns to harp on it again and again. He's stated
several times that I didn't even put a Leica in the top ten! Well, you can
go see the list for yourself:

http://www.phototechmag.com/buying_camera.htm

See if _you_ can find any Leicas in the top ten. (And check out number 18.)

That particular fellow, when I left the LUG, was peppering me with private
messages in which he presented himself as being friendly and collegial. He
was trying hard to convince me that he never had anything against me, held
no grudges, and should not be held responsible for any impression of
animosity, which were all the fault of others and had nothing to do with
him. In other words, a total suck-up job. He even e-mailed me a picture of
himself, as well as several of his photographs. I was absolutely polite and
complimented him quite sincerely on the two or three pictures he sent me,
which seemed good. Yet, since I left, he's apparently been posting bitter
ravings against me that are really quite remarkably vituperative.

I think that's called being "two-faced," eh? I do still have those suck-up
messages he sent me, and I suppose I could embarrass him by posting them
(that is, if he didn't prove himself immune to embarrassment virtually every
time he molests his keyboard), but I don't see the point. He's not a
gentleman, and thus need not be reckoned with.

Although I do have my newsletter. (Heh, heh, heh.)



Note that a great many of the people on that list--by far the overwhelming
majority--are fine, intelligent, interesting people, and delightful company.

--Mike


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Re: What's all the fuss about the DOF Preview

2001-07-08 Thread Philippe Trottier

I hav noticed that my old LX can be very quiet if the Mirror lock is engaged
I beleive the mirror is the noisy part..

Phil

> I'd suppose not as even after a CLA and replacement foam and
> bumpers, the two older LX that I had still made the noise,
> albeit somewhat muted and not quite as metallic.  However, the
> newer LX have, as I understand it, a redesigned mirror box,
> and that may have something to do with why they are quieter.
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Re:eBay auctions was ME Super ASA dial

2001-07-08 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.


Hi Tom,
On this item I was actually shocked to have won it so easily and for so less.
I put up a proxy bid of 90 dollars and figured I would be out bid. Sometimes
I wait til the last minute to post a bid but this time I could not. 
I am guessing that no one wanted this item because of the way the ad read 
but I ended up getting it for 71 dollars and it is in perfect condition other
then that ASA button sticking. 
here is the actual listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1250172299&r=0&t=0&sh
owTutorial=0&ed=994027668&indexURL=0&rd=1

I am not sure if you will be able to get to it with this addy but maybe if
you did a search
at ebay on the item number it will come up.
Item number: 1250172299 

The ad read:

This is an older Pentax ME Super camera with case, flash and cleaning kit.
It is in very good, working condition. The only damage it has is a bent
lens cover which screws off and can easily be replaced--it reads Vivitar
49mm Skylight(1A). The bent part in no way affects the way the camera
operates. The lens reads, ASAHI Optical Co., SMC Pentax-M 1:2 50mm 8783984.
It comes in a case with a flash AF24OZ. Please feel free to ask questions.
Shipping is $6 plus insurance if you'd like. Thank you!

So I am guessing that it may at one time have been dropped or something
because of the bent part. But I have to say that it functions WONDERFULLY!!
I havent gotten the pictures back just yet, they should be done wed or
thurs. I will let ya'll know how they turned out.

There are other auctions that I have bid on and lost out too. I just
happened to get very lucky with this one.

Rebecca


At 09:11 AM 7/7/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey guys.  How do you win things off Ebay. I always have to
>pay. I would like to win something for a change rather than
>having to offer more than anybody else to buy it. Come on,
>tell me how you do it. Everybody but me on PMDL seems to
>know the trick.
>--Tom
>
>
>"B. K. Lane Sr." wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I have won a ME Super off of ebay and it has arrived.
>> Everything appears to be working fine on it except for one
>> thing. The ASA dial does not want to change. I am not sure if
>> it is stuck or what the reason is.
>> I have downloaded the manual from Roberts tech page but on it
>> it shows this dial as having a red light that flickers when
>> the film is loaded correctly. I must have an older camera because
>> this one does not have this red light on it.
>> Thanks for any help ya'll can send this way.
>> 
>> I have not been able to find time to go through and look at
>> the PUG yet. It seems to be one thing after another happening
>> here. I will be s glad when summer is done with.
>> 
>> Rebecca
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Re: ME Super ASA dial

2001-07-08 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.


Yep.. it works!!! The first roll of film I put in did not take because I did
not have it wound up right on the spool. But now I know that when it is in
correctly
the rewind thing on the other side winds when you advance the film and the red
flags move too. 
this is really a neat camera!!
Rebecca

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><< The flag, is this the little window on the right side of the camera 
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>
>Rebecca,
>
>Absolutely correct!  
>
>And it is a nice camera, still impressive after all these years.
>
>Regards,  Bob S.
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OT: Change of mail address

2001-07-08 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Hi everybody,
I've subscribed from yahoo.com too because the address
at usa.net won't be free anymore starting from the 1st
of August.
Now I have only few days to save the many digests I
still have from the old PDML...

I can be reached at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(and also at [EMAIL PROTECTED], an
address I cannot use to send messages here, and [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Anyway, I'll continue to use [EMAIL PROTECTED]
till the end of July.

Thanks for reading,

Gianfranco

PS: I've already sent this message from yahoo, but it does not show yet, so...
I hope I won't have the need to remain with usa.net...
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2001-07-08 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

 
 

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Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Hi Tom,
Don't get mad, I think more or less the same...
although if I could find a black MX in good conditions
you can be sure I wouldn't turn away...

Gianfranco


--- aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been having these thoughts lately.  I wanted to
> see if it's only me
> that thinks this way and whether I NEED PROFESSIONAL
> HELP or not.
> 
> It seems to me that if I was to buy a metal camera,
> like the MX or K's, that
> a model with a "silver" prism and top plate would be
> better because it's
> more durable than a black painted prism and top
> plate.  The black pain would
> probably be easier to get scratched and would be
> more noticeable than a
> blemish on the "chrome".
> 
> OTOH, If I was going to buy a newer camera with a
> non-metal outer skin, it
> seems that a black one would be better because the
> "fake chrome" is is more
> likely to get nicked, marked up, rub off.
> 
> Please respond as I am driving myself crazy. :-)
> 
> Tom C.
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RE: Check out this weird ebay auction!

2001-07-08 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

Not so.  Even if you take delivery by e-mail there is a shipping charge.

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Sent:   Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!

 
If you bid 1c and round down it'll cost you nothing!


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From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!


> I'm in Melbourne Australia and we ditched the 1c coin about 5 years ago at
a
> guess, we dont go lower than 5c now.
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!
>
>
> > ...of one cent :) Hey do you guys still have 1c coins?
> >
> > --- Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1253139794
> >
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Re[2]: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

> all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.

ah, but where does that leave the non-frivolous struggling artists,
students etc. who may have genius but no money? If the idea of paying
to enter a serious competition became a widespread practice then it would
close off an important avenue to recognition for aspiring professionals
and would mean that competitions were not primarily about talent, but
about the ability to pay. A great many of the best-known photographers in
the world got their break through competitions.

---

 Bob  

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Sunday, July 08, 2001, 1:02:50 PM, you wrote:

> Jim wrote:

>>   But $10 and up seems excessive to me,

> Hey, it's only Canadian dollars!  That's only about $5 US.

> But seriously, I'm not that offended by the entry fee.  Yes, with all those
> sponsors there shouldn't be one.  But it really is nominal (Canadian dollars and
> all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.

> I don't see it as a really big deal, one way or the other.


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Re: Dumb Thoughts on Black & Silver

2001-07-08 Thread Leon Altoff

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:45:22 +1200, David A. Mann wrote:

>Tom C. writes:
>
>> OTOH, If I was going to buy a newer camera with a non-metal outer skin, it
>> seems that a black one would be better because the "fake chrome" is is more
>> likely to get nicked, marked up, rub off.
>
> Well, a chrome camera will help justify the purchase of more Limited lenses.  
>I think that convincing your wife that a Limited 43mm looks better on your 
>chrome body than an FA50/1.7 might be easier than justifying it by optical or 
>mechanical quality.  Just a thought :)

My wife and I keep arguing about what colour Limited lenses to get. 
She has a silver 43 for her MZ-3 and it looks silly on the front of my
Z1p (feels and works REALLY well though - I do like the 43). I want to
get a black 77mm so it looks good on my camera, she wants a silver on
to match her 43. Trouble is we can't afford both!


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


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Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Frank Theriault



Jim wrote:

>   But $10 and up seems excessive to me,

Hey, it's only Canadian dollars!  That's only about $5 US.

But seriously, I'm not that offended by the entry fee.  Yes, with all those
sponsors there shouldn't be one.  But it really is nominal (Canadian dollars and
all).  Maybe the idea is to cut down on the frivolous entries.

I don't see it as a really big deal, one way or the other.

regards,
frank

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Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!

2001-07-08 Thread SJMarriott

If you bid 1c and round down it'll cost you nothing!


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!


> I'm in Melbourne Australia and we ditched the 1c coin about 5 years ago at
a
> guess, we dont go lower than 5c now.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "petit miam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction!
>
>
> > ...of one cent :) Hey do you guys still have 1c coins?
> >
> > --- Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1253139794
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Re(2): Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?

2001-07-08 Thread Jim

I should acknowledge that the prizes being offered in this contest are very
nice.  Nevertheless, with the kind of sponsors listed (Nikon, Lowepro,
Mamiya, etc.) the magazine should be able to afford running a contest
without charging that much to entrants.  Of course, maybe I'm just ignorant
of the ways of good old Amer-uh, I mean Canadian business! :)
Jim Again
- Original Message -
From: Michel Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:17 AM
Subject: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?


>
> I just picked up the July issue of Photo Life, a Canadian magazine, and
was reading the
> rules of their contest, 'Image International 2001', when I came across the
following:
>
> " 4 - Entry fees:  $10 for one category (includes up to five images), $13
for two
> categories (includes up to ten images), $16 for three categories (includes
up to fifteen
> images) ..."
>
> Has it come down to that even apparently reputable magazines are charging
an entry
> fee, like all the scam photo publications outfit we hear about?
>
> And to top it all, the government of Canada, via it's information office,
reserves the right
> to use your submitted photo on one of their web site! (Rule 10 of the
contest).
>
> I don't normally pay attention to contests, since they usually exclude
non-residents of
> whichever country (usually the U.S.) the magazine is published from, but
this one, being
> 'local', so to speak, caught my eye. And they even made the contest
international in nature!
>
> Is this fee thing an aberration or standard practice nowadays ?
>
> And what does it say about all the sponsors/prize providers (Kodak is one
of them...) ?
> I don't see how that would help the Canada Information Office to have
pictures of Penguin
> for winner in the Nature category (but then again, what are we to expect
from bureaucrats,
> business smarts ?).
>
> Relevant URLs: http://www.photolife.com/PhotoLife/contests.html
>
> Also: http://www.infocan.gc.ca/index_e.html , and click on 'Image of
Canada and Canadians'
>
>
> What say the PDML ?
>
>
>
> Michel
>
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