Re: Happy New Year from the List Guy

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'm sorry, Doug, I clicked the link in you email but I didn't see the
place for donations there, just the list membership info.
Where do we donate to the common cause?

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 1/1/15, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Happy New Year, wherever you are. I am, again, swamped as I prepare
for another Winter Residency. I thought I'd get on here and wave my
arms a little, to let you all know I'm still alive, and that it's that
time of year again. The kitty is empty, so if you could throw a few
rupees into the pot, I could pay the bill and we can keep on keeping
on.

Thanks ever so much, and a special note of thanks go out to Stan
Halpin. He knows why.

Onward and upward, troops. Hasta. www.pdml.net is where you'lll find
 the link.

 Cheers Doug, will do so shortly :)

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Re: Sunrise over Mission Beach

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Lovely scene, Bob, very well captured!

Where is Mission Beach?  Up towards La Jolla?

San Diego is one of my favorite US cities, although I haven't been
there for a while.  It may be the only spot in the country with
weather to match that of Maui!

We are planning to spend a couple of days in the SD area in May, on
our way to Japan.  We plan to visit my nephew and his family up in
Rancho Bernardo and my wife's Aunt in Coronado.  I would also like to
see MCAS Miramar while we are out there, but base visits are difficult
these days.

Happy New Year to you and yours!

Dan
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 This morning at sunrise...
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17936051
 Pretty calm waters and the start of a new year.
 Hope it brings you your dreams and wishes,
 as well as good health and prosperity.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have acquired a used Go Pro Hero 3.  I intend to use it for certain
parts of my winter trip to Maui, such a Kayaking and Outrigger Canoe
trips and drive up the mountain.  I thought it might also be useful
this spring, when we are venturing off to Japan, with a brief stop in
China.

Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Any tips about how to use and operate it to advantage would be appreciated.

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Any tips about how to use and operate it to advantage would be appreciated.

Now there's a thing. Hints and tips! I'll try and keep this short as I'm
heading off for a nap before traveling to Exeter for a job tomorrow.


Set the thing up properly first - go into the menus (link up the gopro
wifi to an iphone preferably, much easier to make the changes on a menu-
driven app rather than pressing buttons on gopro).

For starters, you're NTSC, so make sure it is switched to NTSC and not PAL.

You're shooting video on the kayaks and canoes? if stills, hit the
largest res and go. If video, select a resolution that suits your end
viewing requirements. Most will shoot 1920X1080 which is High
Definition. Note that you can always down-size later for a more
comfortable web-viewing size. In the USA your standard frame rate will
be 29.97 or 30fps.

https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/
index.html#chapter=D%26section=4%26tasks=true

A brief description of interlaced and progressive video:

https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/42932/~/what-is-the-
difference-between-interlaced-and-progressive-scan-video%3F

24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will
produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of
video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i
will be a smoother 'video' look.

In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and
broadcast interlaced. Cathode ray tube TVs display interlaced images.
All LCD and LED  and Plasma TVs display progressive images - they
convert on the fly in real time to progressive as you view. For web
viewing any interlaced footage needs to be converted into progressive
footage otherwise you will see nasty horizontal artifacts on any moving
images. So it may be as well to shoot progressive (eg 1080p) with the
gopro as you will no doubt want to share the video for viewing on
computers or other LCD screens. Shooting at 720p is another option, less
resolution but for web viewing, not a problem.

Note that there are settings for 'wide, medium, narrow' and these relate
to field of view. The gopro lens is fixed and cannot be zoomed, except
by this method. So if the image is too wide for your taste or needs, set
to medium for a less distorted image.

Otherwise, attach it securely and hit record :-)

Note that the gopro will readily sink if it gets knocked off the kayak
etc. Unless you buh and attach a 'floaty back door' or similar. Or run a
lanyard through the mount and tie off to the kayak.

They are amazing fun and you'll have a blast.

Cheers!


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Re: Happy New Year from the List Guy

2015-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Darn, K didn't see that!  Instead I clicked o the hat image

That is a lovely looking hat is'nt it.:-)
Dave

and went
 right to the main subscription page.  Duh!

 Thanks for pointing it out to my tired old eyes.

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 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Worked for me. Button on lower left. Put in donation amt and password, click 
 pay, done. :-)
 Thanks for keeping it going, Doug!

 Godfrey


 On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sorry, Doug, I clicked the link in you email but I didn't see the
 place for donations there, just the list membership info.
 Where do we donate to the common cause?

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 1/1/15, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Happy New Year, wherever you are. I am, again, swamped as I prepare
 for another Winter Residency. I thought I'd get on here and wave my
 arms a little, to let you all know I'm still alive, and that it's that
 time of year again. The kitty is empty, so if you could throw a few
 rupees into the pot, I could pay the bill and we can keep on keeping
 on.

 Thanks ever so much, and a special note of thanks go out to Stan
 Halpin. He knows why.

 Onward and upward, troops. Hasta. www.pdml.net is where you'lll find
 the link.

 Cheers Doug, will do so shortly :)

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 Cheers,
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Re: Eric Weir can't send mail to the list

2015-01-02 Thread John

Moot by this point since he managed to resubscribe using gmail, but he
told me in his email that he was using plain text.

On 1/1/2015 2:49 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Tell Eric to use Plain Text. Every other format gets recycled into
youtube commenters.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Stanley Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:


On Dec 26, 2014, at 1:22 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:


I got an email from Eric this morning that he's been trying to
send to the list  his messages are just not showing up. He says
he has double checked and the messages are formatted as plain
text.

He's using ATT/Yahoo.

I said I'd pass word along to the list to see if anyone has any
ideas what's going on  how he can fix it.

The only thing I could think of is maybe Yahoo is screwing up
email again.

I'm still subscribed from Yahoo, in a few minutes I'll switch
over  see if I can send email to the list from there, so check
your SPAM folders.


John, Eric - I don’t know where your email is getting trapped but
your test messages do not show up as spam or otherwise on my
system.

stan


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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Steve Cottrell Fri, 02 Jan 2015 08:15:22 -0800


On 2/1/15, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will
produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of
video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i
will be a smoother 'video' look.


I got that slightly wrong - 24p would equate to 48i and so on.

In the UK (PAL) we shoot 25p and 50i. 50i = 50 fields interlaced = 25
frames per second.

I know, it's confusing :)


Speaking of 24i, - I'd say you have 48 separate half-images:
24 images with only even lines, and 24 images with only odd lines.


I am not an expert, but in my understanding, the correct[ed] statement 
would be as follows:
48i would be somewhat similar in quality to 24p, while 24p is slightly 
better (resolution-wise) for [quasi-]static images, and 48i would be 
better for dynamic scenes (e.g. sports).


I think this short write-up covers the different frame rates+scan type
combination in a practically reasonable fashion:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame-rates-24p-25p-30p-60i.html

Best,

Igor


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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:
 I think this short write-up covers the different frame rates+scan type
 combination in a practically reasonable fashion:
 http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame-rates-24p-25p-30p-60i.html

Thanks for the helpful link, Igor.


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Re: Happy New Year from Israel

2015-01-02 Thread John

On 1/1/2015 12:13 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Wherever you are, have been or would be - let 2015 be prosperous, joyful
and worry free.

Boris



Same to ya'

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Re: Happy 2015 All.

2015-01-02 Thread John

You hold the little signboard up to your chin  wait for the flash, then
you turn to your right and wait for the second one.

On 12/31/2014 12:42 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I am still trying to get a handle on this  mug shot business.
On 12/31/14 10:23 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:29:27 -0500
From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Happy 2015 All.
Message-ID:
CAJUU0Cf-ZyAVF1NnbH86tBn=k_l+ghm08wjn5ymfbfe7ce2...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I sometimes take mug shots.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152285475799948l=efbd9f2ef8





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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Ever the lawyer Dan!


You caught me, Chris!
I'm also a terrible typist!

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Bill

On 02/01/2015 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?



Can't you lawyers ever think of anything else?

bill

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Re: Happy New Year from the List Guy

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Darn, K didn't see that!  Instead I clicked o the hat image and went
right to the main subscription page.  Duh!

Thanks for pointing it out to my tired old eyes.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Worked for me. Button on lower left. Put in donation amt and password, click 
 pay, done. :-)
 Thanks for keeping it going, Doug!

 Godfrey


 On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sorry, Doug, I clicked the link in you email but I didn't see the
 place for donations there, just the list membership info.
 Where do we donate to the common cause?

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 1/1/15, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Happy New Year, wherever you are. I am, again, swamped as I prepare
 for another Winter Residency. I thought I'd get on here and wave my
 arms a little, to let you all know I'm still alive, and that it's that
 time of year again. The kitty is empty, so if you could throw a few
 rupees into the pot, I could pay the bill and we can keep on keeping
 on.

 Thanks ever so much, and a special note of thanks go out to Stan
 Halpin. He knows why.

 Onward and upward, troops. Hasta. www.pdml.net is where you'lll find
 the link.

 Cheers Doug, will do so shortly :)

 --


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Re: Happy New Year from the List Guy

2015-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Worked for me. Button on lower left. Put in donation amt and password, click 
pay, done. :-)
Thanks for keeping it going, Doug!

Godfrey


 On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm sorry, Doug, I clicked the link in you email but I didn't see the
 place for donations there, just the list membership info.
 Where do we donate to the common cause?
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 1/1/15, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Happy New Year, wherever you are. I am, again, swamped as I prepare
 for another Winter Residency. I thought I'd get on here and wave my
 arms a little, to let you all know I'm still alive, and that it's that
 time of year again. The kitty is empty, so if you could throw a few
 rupees into the pot, I could pay the bill and we can keep on keeping
 on.
 
 Thanks ever so much, and a special note of thanks go out to Stan
 Halpin. He knows why.
 
 Onward and upward, troops. Hasta. www.pdml.net is where you'lll find
 the link.
 
 Cheers Doug, will do so shortly :)
 
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 Cheers,
  Cotty
 
 
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 ||  (O)  |Web Video Production
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Re: The last PAW (delurking i little).

2015-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Really well done lot, Dag! Thoroughly enjoyed the creativity.

Jack

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Subject: Re: The last PAW (delurking i little).

Maybe :-)
Although Iḿ afraid it might be a bit booring and I´m not completely happy with 
every one of them 

Thanks for looking.

DagT

31. des. 2014 kl. 19.28 skrev Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com:
 
 
 Thank YOU for all the lovely shots for these past 5 years.  I think you 
 should do a book of your 5 year PAWS!  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On Dec 30, 2014, at 2:17 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 
 Don reminded me that I haven´t said anything here for a while, and as some 
 of you did follow the PAW I guess I should said that at last I have 
 stopped.. Five years is enough. The pictures are here 
 http://thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/PAW.html
 
 Time to go on. I should do something about the web site, and something more 
 of Nothing. 
 
 Thank you for looking and for all te comments :-)
 
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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Extremely well done, Mark! 
This may have already been asked and answered, but I'm late getting here, is 
this a stack focus?

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

Bob W-PDML wrote:

Why not just post stuff to websites that don't require instructions to use 
them, and don't hassle people to download an app to look at a picture?

Here's the Really Easy link for you, Bob:
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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

Extremely well done, Mark! 
This may have already been asked and answered, but I'm late getting here, is 
this a stack focus?

No stack focus here. It's a single shot, 1/6s at f/22 (ISO 80). At
100% magnification the loss of resolution due to diffraction is
noticeable, but within reasonable limits for me. At 12mm I probably
could have used a wider aperture, but I wanted the longer shutter
speed. Really makes me wish for ISO setting lower than 80.

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will
produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of
video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i
will be a smoother 'video' look.

I got that slightly wrong - 24p would equate to 48i and so on.

In the UK (PAL) we shoot 25p and 50i. 50i = 50 fields interlaced = 25
frames per second.

I know, it's confusing :)

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Good'n, Chris!

Jack

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 Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
 you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Ever the lawyer Dan!

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
 Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
 you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Ever the lawyer Dan!

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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
...and a good sturdy tripod.
As I'm sure your aware, you'd have to change camera brands to get to a 50 ISO.
Certainly a scene that benefited from your skill.

Jack

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Jack Davis wrote:

Extremely well done, Mark! 
This may have already been asked and answered, but I'm late getting here, is 
this a stack focus?

No stack focus here. It's a single shot, 1/6s at f/22 (ISO 80). At
100% magnification the loss of resolution due to diffraction is
noticeable, but within reasonable limits for me. At 12mm I probably
could have used a wider aperture, but I wanted the longer shutter
speed. Really makes me wish for ISO setting lower than 80.

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread J C OConnell
not quite, there is analog video which was/is NTSC  and there is digital 
video which is ATSC
which can be one of  many formats either interlaced or progressive at 
various resolutions

and frame rates.
jco
On 1/2/2015 11:12 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:


Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Any tips about how to use and operate it to advantage would be appreciated.

Now there's a thing. Hints and tips! I'll try and keep this short as I'm
heading off for a nap before traveling to Exeter for a job tomorrow.


Set the thing up properly first - go into the menus (link up the gopro
wifi to an iphone preferably, much easier to make the changes on a menu-
driven app rather than pressing buttons on gopro).

For starters, you're NTSC, so make sure it is switched to NTSC and not PAL.

You're shooting video on the kayaks and canoes? if stills, hit the
largest res and go. If video, select a resolution that suits your end
viewing requirements. Most will shoot 1920X1080 which is High
Definition. Note that you can always down-size later for a more
comfortable web-viewing size. In the USA your standard frame rate will
be 29.97 or 30fps.

https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/
index.html#chapter=D%26section=4%26tasks=true

A brief description of interlaced and progressive video:

https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/42932/~/what-is-the-
difference-between-interlaced-and-progressive-scan-video%3F

24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will
produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of
video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i
will be a smoother 'video' look.

In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and
broadcast interlaced. Cathode ray tube TVs display interlaced images.
All LCD and LED  and Plasma TVs display progressive images - they
convert on the fly in real time to progressive as you view. For web
viewing any interlaced footage needs to be converted into progressive
footage otherwise you will see nasty horizontal artifacts on any moving
images. So it may be as well to shoot progressive (eg 1080p) with the
gopro as you will no doubt want to share the video for viewing on
computers or other LCD screens. Shooting at 720p is another option, less
resolution but for web viewing, not a problem.

Note that there are settings for 'wide, medium, narrow' and these relate
to field of view. The gopro lens is fixed and cannot be zoomed, except
by this method. So if the image is too wide for your taste or needs, set
to medium for a less distorted image.

Otherwise, attach it securely and hit record :-)

Note that the gopro will readily sink if it gets knocked off the kayak
etc. Unless you buh and attach a 'floaty back door' or similar. Or run a
lanyard through the mount and tie off to the kayak.

They are amazing fun and you'll have a blast.

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread David Mann
On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:12 am, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and
 broadcast interlaced. Cathode ray tube TVs display interlaced images.
 All LCD and LED  and Plasma TVs display progressive images - they
 convert on the fly in real time to progressive as you view. For web
 viewing any interlaced footage needs to be converted into progressive
 footage otherwise you will see nasty horizontal artifacts on any moving
 images. So it may be as well to shoot progressive (eg 1080p) with the
 gopro as you will no doubt want to share the video for viewing on
 computers or other LCD screens. Shooting at 720p is another option, less
 resolution but for web viewing, not a problem.

That's interesting but it makes me wonder why we'd ever shoot interlaced if all 
the end use nowadays is progressive.

 Note that there are settings for 'wide, medium, narrow' and these relate
 to field of view. The gopro lens is fixed and cannot be zoomed, except
 by this method. So if the image is too wide for your taste or needs, set
 to medium for a less distorted image.

Knowing nothing about Gopro cameras, this is also interesting to me.  Only 
because I see so much footage that annoys me because of a fisheye effect.  Do 
the narrower views eliminate the distortion or just reduce it?

FWIW a lot of other companies are coming out with action cameras now, eg 
Shimano and Garmin.  I'm not sure if Contour is still around.  It's good to see 
some more companies getting involved.

I wouldn't mind playing with one of these things but when I think a bit more 
seriously I just don't know what I'd want to achieve with it.

Cheers,
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FS Friday: m42 to Q adapter, F 100mm f2.8 Macro, A50 f1.7

2015-01-02 Thread Darren Addy
Greetings,
Before this Friday gets away, I wanted to mention a few things that I
found while digging. These need to go to someone who will give them a
good home (after the exchange of funds, naturally).  :)  Happy to ship
worldwide to PDML members. Prices are plus actual shipping charges.

I've got an unused m42 to Q adapter. This is the one with the handy
tripod foot which helps with your center of gravity when putting a
Takumar on the front of your Q mount camera $19

Pentax-F 100mm f2.8 macro. This is a hard to find lens with a great
reputation for its combination of build quality and optical design. It
also has the focus range limiter. Pixie dust included at no additional
charge. This lens has been reduced to $399. Images created with this
same lens model: http://www.flickriver.com/search/Pentax-F+100mm+f2.8/
 also images accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery with this same
model lens: 
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=990

I've got two Pentax-A 50mm f1.7 lenses.
One is perfect and the other is inconsistent in moving smoothly
between the manual aperture settings. However, it is currently in the
A position, which allows you to select any aperture via the dial on
your DSLR.
Perfect one: $79
A only one: $49 (nice bargain)
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=460

Respectfully,
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Re: PESO - Strand's Movie Camera

2015-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
Really sorry you didn't get here. You probably could have spent 2 days, not 
just one!

HNY, in any case!

Rick

On Jan 2, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Nice presentation of a thing - I would not have had the slightest idea of 
 what I was looking at if you had not stated it though.
 
 I love the shot of the people watching the Strand flick! - I think that is 
 definitely the best of your museum shots.
 
 Rick, alas, I didn't get there today and won't be able to go on the weekend.  
 Multiple things got in the way.  Maybe it will get to New York.
 
 ann
 
 On 1/2/2015 20:03, Rick Womer wrote:
 Last of the series:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17934442size=lg
 
 Comments?
 
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Re: PESO - Strand's Movie Camera

2015-01-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Nice presentation of a thing - I would not have had the slightest idea 
of what I was looking at if you had not stated it though.


I love the shot of the people watching the Strand flick! - I think that 
is definitely the best of your museum shots.


Rick, alas, I didn't get there today and won't be able to go on the 
weekend.  Multiple things got in the way.  Maybe it will get to New York.


ann

On 1/2/2015 20:03, Rick Womer wrote:

Last of the series:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17934442size=lg

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PESO 2015 - 002 - GDG

2015-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Working my way through this set, one at a time. The order is a bit jumbled, 
however. ;-)

  https://flic.kr/p/pGYxxB

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thank you, Steve.  That is most helpful.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 2/1/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?

Any tips about how to use and operate it to advantage would be appreciated.

 Now there's a thing. Hints and tips! I'll try and keep this short as I'm
 heading off for a nap before traveling to Exeter for a job tomorrow.


 Set the thing up properly first - go into the menus (link up the gopro
 wifi to an iphone preferably, much easier to make the changes on a menu-
 driven app rather than pressing buttons on gopro).

 For starters, you're NTSC, so make sure it is switched to NTSC and not PAL.

 You're shooting video on the kayaks and canoes? if stills, hit the
 largest res and go. If video, select a resolution that suits your end
 viewing requirements. Most will shoot 1920X1080 which is High
 Definition. Note that you can always down-size later for a more
 comfortable web-viewing size. In the USA your standard frame rate will
 be 29.97 or 30fps.

 https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/
 index.html#chapter=D%26section=4%26tasks=true

 A brief description of interlaced and progressive video:

 https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/42932/~/what-is-the-
 difference-between-interlaced-and-progressive-scan-video%3F

 24p will produce 24 separate images in one second of video. 24i will
 produce 24 frames of 2-fields each = 48 separate images in one second of
 video. The 24p will be a bit more 'jittery' giving a film-like look. 24i
 will be a smoother 'video' look.

 In broadcast TV all material is shot in interlaced (hence 1080i) and
 broadcast interlaced. Cathode ray tube TVs display interlaced images.
 All LCD and LED  and Plasma TVs display progressive images - they
 convert on the fly in real time to progressive as you view. For web
 viewing any interlaced footage needs to be converted into progressive
 footage otherwise you will see nasty horizontal artifacts on any moving
 images. So it may be as well to shoot progressive (eg 1080p) with the
 gopro as you will no doubt want to share the video for viewing on
 computers or other LCD screens. Shooting at 720p is another option, less
 resolution but for web viewing, not a problem.

 Note that there are settings for 'wide, medium, narrow' and these relate
 to field of view. The gopro lens is fixed and cannot be zoomed, except
 by this method. So if the image is too wide for your taste or needs, set
 to medium for a less distorted image.

 Otherwise, attach it securely and hit record :-)

 Note that the gopro will readily sink if it gets knocked off the kayak
 etc. Unless you buh and attach a 'floaty back door' or similar. Or run a
 lanyard through the mount and tie off to the kayak.

 They are amazing fun and you'll have a blast.

 Cheers!


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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread John

On 1/2/2015 8:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Does or has anyone on list use/used a Go Pro camera?  Is so, what have
you sued it for, and what do you like and dislike about it?


Alimony!

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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote:

On 1/2/2015 10:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Jack Davis wrote:

 Extremely well done, Mark!
 This may have already been asked and answered, but I'm late getting here, 
 is this a stack focus?

 No stack focus here. It's a single shot, 1/6s at f/22 (ISO 80). At
 100% magnification the loss of resolution due to diffraction is
 noticeable, but within reasonable limits for me. At 12mm I probably
 could have used a wider aperture, but I wanted the longer shutter
 speed. Really makes me wish for ISO setting lower than 80.

 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/11/bb/10/11bb10ca7ab6e015f14808ed74f5cc0e.jpg

Maybe a one or two stop ND filter?

I have a 4-stop ND filter but I hate the dark viewfinder it gives me.
(Also, I didn't have it with me at the time...)

 
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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread John

FWIW, the black thing over the page that wants you to sign up is a
script from pinimg.com

NoScript blocked it  I had to temporarily allow it in order to see what
you're talking about.

On 1/1/2015 12:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, Pinterest is very annoying for non-members.
I was able to scroll down and thus see the entire image, a slice at a
time, and it does seem quite nice.  I'm sure it would look better if I
could view it all at once .  .  .  .

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:

If I don't sign up 1/3 of the page is covered...what I can see is very nice.

-p

On 1/1/2015 10:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I've been uploading a few things to Pinterest these days. Here's a
view of Wildcat Mountain in New Hampshire, taken over Thanksgiving
weekend 2014.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/322570392035498383/



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Re: The PUG Continues into 2015 - January Countdown

2015-01-02 Thread John

On 1/2/2015 2:00 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 12/31/2014 5:44 PM, John wrote:

On 12/30/2014 7:33 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

It's early New Year's Eve here (11:30am, actually) but I expect to be
otherwise engaged around midnight so...

Happy 2015 to all.

Now that the turkey has been consumed, the pudding digested and eggnog
imbibed (WTF is eggnog anyway??), it's time to think about the first PUG
for 2015.



Eggnog is uncooked scrambled eggs mixed with milk, sugar and alcohol.

If you are in any way health conscious, you should probably leave out
the eggs, milk  sugar


But it doesn't taste like you're drinking raw eggs milk and sugar...



That's because I'm health conscious.

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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread John

On 1/2/2015 10:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


Extremely well done, Mark!
This may have already been asked and answered, but I'm late getting here, is 
this a stack focus?


No stack focus here. It's a single shot, 1/6s at f/22 (ISO 80). At
100% magnification the loss of resolution due to diffraction is
noticeable, but within reasonable limits for me. At 12mm I probably
could have used a wider aperture, but I wanted the longer shutter
speed. Really makes me wish for ISO setting lower than 80.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/11/bb/10/11bb10ca7ab6e015f14808ed74f5cc0e.jpg






Maybe a one or two stop ND filter?

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think this short write-up covers the different frame rates+scan type
combination in a practically reasonable fashion:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame-
rates-24p-25p-30p-60i.html

Yep, good explainer

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/15, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed:

not quite, there is analog video which was/is NTSC  and there is digital 
video which is ATSC
which can be one of  many formats either interlaced or progressive at 
various resolutions
and frame rates.

The GoPro does not support ATSC, so moot in this thread.

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Re: PESO: Moon Over Wildcat

2015-01-02 Thread Rick Womer

On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 I have a 4-stop ND filter but I hate the dark viewfinder it gives me.
 (Also, I didn't have it with me at the time...)
 

I'm waiting for the Pentax mirrorless with an excellent EVF, and the 
capabilities of my K-5 (at least).

(Another toke, anyone?)

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Re: OT: Go Pro

2015-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
Incidentally, as far as accessories go, the GoPro branded  bits are
pretty good, but one thing I wouldn't recommend is their suction cup
mount. Instead, I have several of the Delkin mounts and they are
absolutely bullet-proof:

http://tinyurl.com/q8ol75b

(links to amazon page)

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PESO - Strand's Movie Camera

2015-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
Last of the series:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17934442size=lg

Comments?

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