Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
The OEM CD used to be the OS from Microsoft, there was very little trial software, sometimes things like the original beta version of MS Money. The other crap is often bulk filler supplied by the Manufacture, to punch up it's supplied software list. A company I worked for bought all it's programming work stations from Gateway, we got two CD's one of Micosoft's NT OS and one of the Gateway "enhancements". The frist thing we did when we got them was to take the OEM copy of the OS, (WinNT in this case), Format the Hard drive and install a clean version from the included MS installation CD. Then add drivers for the specific additional hardware, network cards, high res video cards etc. Once this was done you had a pretty clean install. The manufactures don't supply those Microsoft OEM CDs anymore. You didn't want most of the crap on the other CD, now you get neither. Kenneth Waller wrote: >A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial >version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to >continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I >use. > >Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove? > >Kenneth Waller > >- Original Message - >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM >Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > > > >>Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other >>software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but >>removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, >>especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most >>people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install >>the OS, barring a complete melt down. >> >>Kenneth Waller wrote: >> >> >> >>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff. >>> >>>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get >>>advertising with your newspaper. >>> >>>Kenneth Waller >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >>>> >>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell >>>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have >>>>>it >>>>>"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. >>>>> >>>>>Shel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >>>>>> >>>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Why wouldn't they? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Shel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Actually... >>>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my >>>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>Who the F knows? >>>>>> >>>>>>ann >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >>>> >>>>--Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >> >>--Albert Einstein >> >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
I found this little script on the Dell forums: http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier Written specifically to remove Dell bloatware, but works on any brand computer with any of the listed programs pre-installed. I ran it on mine and it worked as advertised. Lou > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Kenneth Waller > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:22 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > > A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial > version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to > continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I > use. > > Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove? > > Kenneth Waller > > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > > > Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other > > software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but > > removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, > > especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most > > people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install > > the OS, barring a complete melt down. > > > > Kenneth Waller wrote: > > > >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing > >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff. > >> > >>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same > reason you get > >>advertising with your newspaper. > >> > >>Kenneth Waller > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing > >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. > >>> > >>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell > >>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you > can have > >>>>it > >>>>"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. > >>>> > >>>>Shel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>[Original Message] > >>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM > >>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > >>>>> > >>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Why wouldn't they? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Shel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>[Original Message] > >>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Actually... > >>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my > >>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>Who the F knows? > >>>>> > >>>>>ann > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>PDML@pdml.net > >>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-- > >>>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > >>> > >>>--Albert Einstein > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>PDML@pdml.net > >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > > > --Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I use. Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other > software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but > removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, > especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most > people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install > the OS, barring a complete melt down. > > Kenneth Waller wrote: > >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >>> >>> >> >>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff. >> >>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get >>advertising with your newspaper. >> >>Kenneth Waller >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >> >> >> >> >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >>> >>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell >>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have >>>>it >>>>"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. >>>> >>>>Shel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >>>>> >>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Why wouldn't they? >>>>>> >>>>>>Shel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Actually... >>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my >>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>Who the F knows? >>>>> >>>>>ann >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >>> >>>--Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install the OS, barring a complete melt down. Kenneth Waller wrote: >>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >> >> > >I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff. > >My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get >advertising with your newspaper. > >Kenneth Waller > >- Original Message - >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > > > >>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing >>anything that comes with a standard windows installation. >> >>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> >> >> >>>That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell >>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it >>>"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. >>> >>>Shel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>[Original Message] >>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM >>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >>>> >>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Why wouldn't they? >>>>> >>>>>Shel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Actually... >>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my >>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>Who the F knows? >>>> >>>>ann >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >> >>--Albert Einstein >> >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
> The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing > anything that comes with a standard windows installation. I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff. My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get advertising with your newspaper. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing > anything that comes with a standard windows installation. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >>That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell >>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it >>"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. >> >>Shel >> >> >> >> >> >>>[Original Message] >>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM >>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >>> >>>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Why wouldn't they? >>>> >>>>Shel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Actually... >>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my >>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that >>>>> >>>>> >>>Who the F knows? >>> >>>ann >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell > commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it > "your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. > > Shel > Yup - I'm slowly separating the wheat from the chaffee - and quickly took the explorer icon off my desktop and am using firefox for the web. When I got the PEntium III 6 years ago - they DID do it my way. ann > > [Original Message] > > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM > > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > > Why wouldn't they? > > > > > > Shel > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: Ann Sanfedele > > > > > > > Actually... > > > > I asked that NO games be installed on my > > > > computer but they wouldn't honor that > > > > > > > Who the F knows? > > > > ann > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing anything that comes with a standard windows installation. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell >commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it >"your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. > >Shel > > > > > >>[Original Message] >>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM >>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell >> >>Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> >> >>>Why wouldn't they? >>> >>>Shel >>> >>> >>> >>>>[Original Message] >>>>From: Ann Sanfedele >>>> >>>> >>>>Actually... >>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my >>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that >>>> >>>> >>Who the F knows? >> >>ann >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
That's really odd - and annoying. I've seen a couple-three Dell commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it "your way." Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > Why wouldn't they? > > > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Ann Sanfedele > > > > > Actually... > > > I asked that NO games be installed on my > > > computer but they wouldn't honor that > > > > Who the F knows? > > ann > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
I believe it comes with windows, no choice there, unless you do a custom install. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Ann Sanfedele wrote: >> -- >> > Actually... > I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they > wouldn't honor that > however, the lure of freecell (which I'd learned at a > friends house) was insurmountable > to escape from all the stuff I wanted to do but couldnt > figure out. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
John Coyle wrote: > > Hi Ann: > I can help with these: > 1. Open Windows Explorer. > Click "Tools/Folder Options" > Click on the "View" tab > Under "Advanced settings", uncheck the option "Hide extensions for > known file types". > Click on the "Apply to all folders" button. > > 2 and 3. In reverse order, because you may need to restart the computer > after changing the DPI > Right-click the desktop > Click "Properties" > Click the "Desktop" tab. > Click "Browse" and select the image you want as the background. > Click the "Settings" tab. > Click "Advanced" > Change the DPI to 120dpi, and apply. > > John Coyle > Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com) > Brisbane, Australia Hi, John Yup I got that done and I did change the DPI to 120 - something I stumbled upon. What happened is I kept plugging away at things before I got answers from you very helpful listmates. best, ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Why wouldn't they? > > Shel > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ann Sanfedele > > > Actually... > > I asked that NO games be installed on my > > computer but they wouldn't honor that > Who the F knows? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Ann, Windows Power Toys at various times included a quick resolution change utility that installed as a monitor icon in the system tray allowing you immediate access to every resolutions that your card/monitor combination would support. It was incorporated into various sub versions of Windows and some card manufactures also included something like it with their bundled software. There may be something like that already on your machine. I always though it was useful because I run a bunch of older programs that don't follow current rules for resizing with resolution changes. I don't run XP so I'm not as familier what may be available built into XP. I will look into if for you. Ann Sanfedele wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>it doesn't take care of everything, actually. >> >>I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't >>bring the freecell window up >>to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar >>for it got big. >> >>sigh >> >>a >>= >>What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows >>file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. >>However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For >>instance, >>with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That >>works in some programs. >> >> > >Yes, on my old machine I've done that. > > > >>But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They >>were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box >>on >>the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it. >> >> > >Exactly > > > >>I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows >>Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it >>the >>way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the >>whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find >>that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos. >> >>HTH, Marnie >> >> >> >Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell... >the small screen will keep me from using it too much! > >ann > >hmmm what is HTH? > > > > > > > >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Why wouldn't they? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele > Actually... > I asked that NO games be installed on my > computer but they wouldn't honor that -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Charles Robinson wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > I stumbled around and found I had it done without really > > thinking how i did it :) > > > > Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell > > > > There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of > $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a > $2.00 pack of cards. > > Not that there's anything *wrong* with that! :-) > > -Charles > > -- > Actually... I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they wouldn't honor that however, the lure of freecell (which I'd learned at a friends house) was insurmountable to escape from all the stuff I wanted to do but couldnt figure out. :) fortunately, I paid well under 1000 for the new machine charles, you are making me feel guilty! :) ann Mark mentioned BLOATWARE - there is a ton of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > it doesn't take care of everything, actually. > > I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't > bring the freecell window up > to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar > for it got big. > > sigh > > a > = > What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows > file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. > However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For > instance, > with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That > works in some programs. Yes, on my old machine I've done that. > > But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They > were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box > on > the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it. Exactly > > I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows > Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it > the > way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the > whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find > that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos. > > HTH, Marnie > Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell... the small screen will keep me from using it too much! ann hmmm what is HTH? > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it doesn't take care of everything, actually. I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't bring the freecell window up to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar for it got big. sigh a = What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For instance, with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That works in some programs. But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box on the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it. I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it the way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos. HTH, Marnie -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > I stumbled around and found I had it done without really > thinking how i did it :) > > Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell > There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a $2.00 pack of cards. Not that there's anything *wrong* with that! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Mat Maessen wrote: > > On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (3) I can put my own image on the desktop. > > There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it: > > 1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open > it up in your web browser. > 2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select > "Set as Desktop Background". > > There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty > straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-) > > -Mat > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net I stumbled around and found I had it done without really thinking how i did it :) Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL > PROTECTED] > writes: > (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in > > thanks > ann > > Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way > you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice. > > 1. Go to the control panel. > 2. Click on Display. > 3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab. > 4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal, > Large, and Extra Large. > 5. Click the Apply button. > > HTH, Marnie aka Doe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net it doesn't take care of everything, actually. I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't bring the freecell window up to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar for it got big. sigh a -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (3) I can put my own image on the desktop. There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it: 1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open it up in your web browser. 2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select "Set as Desktop Background". There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in thanks ann Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice. 1. Go to the control panel. 2. Click on Display. 3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab. 4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal, Large, and Extra Large. 5. Click the Apply button. HTH, Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Hi Ann: I can help with these: 1. Open Windows Explorer. Click "Tools/Folder Options" Click on the "View" tab Under "Advanced settings", uncheck the option "Hide extensions for known file types". Click on the "Apply to all folders" button. 2 and 3. In reverse order, because you may need to restart the computer after changing the DPI Right-click the desktop Click "Properties" Click the "Desktop" tab. Click "Browse" and select the image you want as the background. Click the "Settings" tab. Click "Advanced" Change the DPI to 120dpi, and apply. John Coyle Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com) Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell > Hey, Guys > > I can see this is going to be fun (NOT) > > > What do I do so that > (1) the dos extentions always show > (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in > (3) I can put my own image on the desktop. > > thanks > ann > > (I'm not on line with it yet -- dont want to link up until > the colors and fonts are set...) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
Hey, Guys I can see this is going to be fun (NOT) What do I do so that (1) the dos extentions always show (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in (3) I can put my own image on the desktop. thanks ann (I'm not on line with it yet -- dont want to link up until the colors and fonts are set...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT Again: Windows XP Question
Sorry to keep asking these computer questions, gang, but I figure someone here will have the answer. When my modem connects to my ISP, Windows Media Center Edition puts a message in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen telling me so. The message stays there until I click to make it go away. No previous version of Windows (including two previous installations of XP Home) has done this. No doubt Microsoft thinks this is helpful to me. I consider it yet another Microsoft annoyance. Does anyone know how I can get Windows not to do this? Thanks, Joe
Re: OT: XP question
I'm pretty sure you can, the file system is NTFS but I don't think XP supplies you with a utility. At 06:20 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: Hi: Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an 80GB HD and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same techniques on the C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my programs. Any help appreciated TIA BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien) Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
Re: Power lines (was Re: XP question)
This week-end I heard of a couple of skiing tourists who got fried by the railway power cable on the Oslo-Bergen route last year. They came downhill, unaware, towards the track in poor weather. It hit them in the chest before they fell down on the track. Snow depth at the place was about 3 meters. Tough luck. Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Power lines (was Re: XP question) > Hi, > Hi, > > Cotty wrote: > > > We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply of 230 > > volts. We like to live dangerously ;-) > > Even better than that, our (UK) national grid uses voltages of > 400kV, 275kV and 132kV in above ground lines. In times of high > demand, you can see the cables sag as they warm up and expand > between pylons. Birds use them to keep warm. > > Considering the number of accidents we have when digger > operators cut local power lines with a measly 240V in them, it's > probably best that they are 30m in the air. > > Although, I bought my first motorcycle from the widow of someone > who was flying a control line plane near to one of the 400kV > lines... > > mike > >
Power lines (was Re: XP question)
Hi, Hi, Cotty wrote: > We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply of 230 > volts. We like to live dangerously ;-) Even better than that, our (UK) national grid uses voltages of 400kV, 275kV and 132kV in above ground lines. In times of high demand, you can see the cables sag as they warm up and expand between pylons. Birds use them to keep warm. Considering the number of accidents we have when digger operators cut local power lines with a measly 240V in them, it's probably best that they are 30m in the air. Although, I bought my first motorcycle from the widow of someone who was flying a control line plane near to one of the 400kV lines... mike
Re: XP question
need more power...powermust have... must havemore power...now. ...ahh precious power :):):): Shaun Cotty wrote: You have 33kv lines in the streets in Australia? My God! Are your power companies and legislators insane? We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply of 230 volts. We like to live dangerously ;-) Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XP question
You have 33kv lines in the streets in Australia? My God! Are your power companies and legislators insane? Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:24 AM Subject: Re: XP question > On 8 Feb 2003 at 19:18, Leonard Paris wrote: > > > That's what a really good UPS is for, preventing surges and sags from > > damaging your hardware. > > Amen, I have APC UPS on all my computers. A few years back we had an insulator > come loose on an aerial 33kV line in the street which fell across the aerial > 240V mains vaporizing them. It also blew down-pipes off buildings, fused all > our earth wiring, blew the gas meter off it's perch across the street and lit a > gas plume, blew fuses in most appliances, blew light bulbs, damaged my Telcos > equipment and perforated copper water pipes. But my computers (and hard drives) > survived :-) > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html >
Re: XP question
From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: XP question Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:23:39 + Hi, > That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system > Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on my PC including BOTH hard drives. > Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks fail at the same time. That's the way Sod's Law works! --- Bob That's what a really good UPS is for, preventing surges and sags from damaging your hardware. Len --- _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: OT XP question
Thank you for all who answered my question. I think the transfer, reformat and partition, and re-transfer is my best option. I'm running XP home. How do I make sure I have everything off C drive before reformatting? As this is very OT and may be long, please feel free to contact me off list. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien)
Re: XP question
Hi, > That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system > Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on my PC >including BOTH hard drives. > Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks fail at the >same time. That's the way Sod's Law works! --- Bob
Re: Re: XP question
On 7 Feb 2003 at 17:30, Leonard Paris wrote: > The only sure way is to back up all of your data and then partition and > format the drive the way that you want it. Then, you re-install all of your > software from the original disks into the partitions in which you want them. > Last, you bring back your data into the appropriate program > subdirectories, where the programs will expect to find it. Got to agree with Len on this one, a duplicate transfer is the only way that you can guarantee the preservation of your data. I have seen more drives/data trashed by Partition Magic over the years than I'd care to recall. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Re: XP question
Len wrote: >After this is done, you have the perfect backup system. Just periodically image the old drive >to the new one. If the old one fails, or is corrupted, you can reformat it and image the new >drive back to it again. Or replace the old drive and put an image of the backup drive on it >and keep right on keepin' on. That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on my PC including BOTH hard drives. Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks fail at the same time. --- Wendy Beard Mosaid Technologies Inc 11 Hines Rd, Kanata, Ontario K2K 2X1, Canada
Re: Re: XP question
Well, not really that simple. When you re-partition the drive, you'll have to have enough space on your C:\ partition to hold the image that you made of it originally. Mainly because the registry is going to look for all of your programs in the same places they were before you repartitioned the drive. The only sure way is to back up all of your data and then partition and format the drive the way that you want it. Then, you re-install all of your software from the original disks into the partitions in which you want them. Last, you bring back your data into the appropriate program subdirectories, where the programs will expect to find it. There are other ways to do this, one of which uses the Norton's Ghost program. You install a new hard drive, of the size you desire. You partition and format the partitions the way that you want, making the first partition bootable. Then you use Norton Ghost to move the applications and their data files to the places where you want them on the other drive. Now you go into CMOS and make the new drive the primary drive and boot from it. You can now fdisk and format your original drive any way you want. You can even make an image of the new drive and clone it onto the old drive, if you wish. Then go back and reset the CMOS to boot from the old drive. After this is done, you have the perfect backup system. Just periodically image the old drive to the new one. If the old one fails, or is corrupted, you can reformat it and image the new drive back to it again. Or replace the old drive and put an image of the backup drive on it and keep right on keepin' on. It's a lot easier to do than it is to tell about it and new hard drives are really very cheap. If what you have on your computer is important to you, the machine should have two drives set up like this with a third drive sitting on a shelf just in case one of the two operating drives should fail. There are other ways to do all of this, this way minimizes risk and hair tearing. Len --- From: "Dr E D F Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: XP question Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:15:01 +0200 Quite easy and you have several opportunities to decide whether what the program is about to do is actually what you want. Of course you should back up your files first; just in case the power fails in the middle of the operation. To do this there is another program, by the same people, called Drive Image. This will make an exact image of your drive that can be put back easily in case of trouble. Of course - if you just buy Drive Image and do a backup you can then use DOS's Fdisk to re-partition your drive. You can then format the new partitions, make the first active and put everything back from the image and save some money. You need to be sure that the new partition is big enough for the image. But when I did it I merely backed up some important files to CD and then re-partitioned the drive with PMagic. It went smoothly. ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: XP question > Don. > I'm thinking of getting Partition Magic to > slice up my 40 Gig HD(XP Home version)Is it relativley > painfree to use:) > > Dave > Begin Original Message > > From: "Dr E D F Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:42:25 +0200 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: XP question > > > I use XP Pro and used Partition Magic to change the partitions on C: > > Don > ___ > Dr E D F Williams > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery > Updated: March 30, 2002 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:20 AM > Subject: OT: XP question > > > > Hi: > > > > Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an > 80GB HD > > and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same > techniques on > the > > C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option > in My > > Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my > > programs. > > > > Any help appreciated > > > > TIA > > > > BUTCH > > > > Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. > > > > Hermann Hess (Damien) > >
RE: XP question
You can partition an empty disk, up until the point that there is no 'unpartitioned' space on it anymore. Without an add on tool like partition magic, you cannot change the size of a partition once it has been set up. Your C drive was presumably formatted with a single partition fillinf the whole disk. DO NOT use the format option on the C drive, because the only way XP can format the disk as standard is to wipe it!! > -Original Message- > From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 February 2003 23:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: XP question > > > Hi: > > Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just > installed an 80GB HD and was able to partition that no > problem. Using the same techniques on the C (main) HD the > format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My > Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all > of my programs. > > Any help appreciated > > TIA > > BUTCH > > Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. > > Hermann Hess (Damien) > >
Re: XP question
I use XP Pro and used Partition Magic to change the partitions on C: Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:20 AM Subject: OT: XP question > Hi: > > Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an 80GB HD > and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same techniques on the > C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My > Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my > programs. > > Any help appreciated > > TIA > > BUTCH > > Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. > > Hermann Hess (Damien) > >
