Re: [RBW] Internal 3-speed QB question

[CycloFiend]

on 9/20/10 9:45 PM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
> I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the
> following idea in mind. In the following pictures:
> 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg
> 
> the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is no
> cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack so
> that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front
> derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the
> bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a
> pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
> What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use
> of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter
> in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front,
> for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an
> internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it
> work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it takes
> up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?
> 
> I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of
> derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any
> pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.

You've already done most of the heavy lifting on that system.

Since you are sticking with a coastable setup, there shouldn't really be
that much of an issue.  You really just have the same setup, with differing
ratios which don't change any chain tension or angle.

There is the spacing issue - 120 mm, which may nix the Shimano 3 speed (and
I think those were coaster brake models, but I'm not sure).  But, S-A stuff
can be found that way, to be sure.  There's probably no reason you couldn't
run a 7 or 8 speed hub, if it was spaced correctly.

It would be problematic to run the derailleur with a fixed hub like the S-A
S3X. Derailleurs/tensioning devices and fixed setups are generally thought
to be Bad Ideas.  AASHTA -
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlespeed.html#tension

You're really just using the arm of the rear derailleur for tension.  And
for the range you are running, I don't think you could drop back to a Paul
Melvin. But, if you widen your gearing aft, maybe you could run narrower up
front...

(For those looking to mount a derailleur on a tab-less fork end, you just
need to find one of these -  http://tinyurl.com/derhanger )

It seems like you are really most of the way there, right now.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question

[James Warren]

Thanks Bobby,
That's good to know. I would love to try the 8-speed Alfine, but I don't think 
it will fit in the QB's 120 mm space in back, and I'm trying to avoid spreading 
the frame. The 3-speed on the other hand could have a 120 spacing and with my 3 
chainrings shifting, I'd still get a good gear range if it all works.

I too wanted to try the Alfine tensioner, but it appears that it attaches to a 
frame's rear derailleur hanger which the QB lacks. So I'm thinking of just 
continuing to use the dummy rear derailleur I have on there now. Do you know if 
they have an Alfine tensioner that doesn't need a derailleur hanger like rear 
derailleurs that clamp inside the dropouts?

I didn't consider that too small a ring up front could create too much torque 
for the internals of the hub. What two chainring sizes did you use? In wonder 
if my plan to use a 24tooth granny in front would cause a problem. The whole 
point of this project is to try to get a low as low as 24F-28R.

Basically, I love how the QB rides, bit I don't like single-speeds. I'm trying 
to get the QB ride with  the abilities of a multi-gear shifter. I've succeeded 
in having it be a wide-ranging 3x1, but now I'm getting greedy, because my 
current lowest low is 24F-22R. It's weird. I have other great bikes, a few 
Rivendells even, that I'm really happy with, but there is just something about 
that Quickbeam.

Thanks again,
Jim

-Original Message-
>From: Montclair BobbyB 
>Sent: Sep 20, 2010 10:03 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question
>
>Jim:
>
>I actually did something similar this past winter, except with an 8-
>speed Shimano Alfine internal-geared hub and a front derailleur (to
>run a 2x8 setup).  I used the Alfine chain tensioner (which costs
>about $25 and the spring is super strong, ensuring good chain tension
>with the front derailleur shifts.  I actually had a triple crank, but
>stuck to using 2 of the 3 chainrings in the front (use of the small
>crank would have produced a gear so low it could climb a tree and
>would over-torque the internals of the hub (according to Shimano).
>Having use of the outer chainring provided a nice range of cruising
>gears.  I'm sure this 3-speed setup will work just fine, and if you've
>got a derailleur to spare, great.  Otherwise consider the Alfine
>tensioner... it's the best one I've used, and I've tried a few.  (And
>BTW the Alfine hub is superior to any other internal geared hub I've
>owned, from Sturmey-Archer to SRAM to Shimano Nexus... The Alfine is
>the best.
>
>Peace,
>BB
>
>On Sep 21, 12:45 am, James Warren  wrote:
>> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>> I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the 
>> following idea in mind. In the following pictures:
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg
>>
>> the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is 
>> no cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of 
>> slack so that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a 
>> front derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so 
>> the bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a 
>> pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
>> What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through 
>> use of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal 
>> shifter in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in 
>> the front, for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't 
>> use an internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still 
>> have it work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so 
>> that it takes up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in 
>> front?
>>
>> I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of 
>> derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any 
>> pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim W.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

[cyclotourist]

Whatever the color, it looks great!!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Montclair BobbyB <
montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hah!  More like dark dark green.
>
> On Sep 21, 12:55 am, William  wrote:
> > Isn't it dark dark dark green?
> >
> > On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB <
> montclairbob...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Initial build pics on Flickr...
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
> >
> > > > I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> > > > Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> > > > downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> > > > setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> > > > should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> > > > brake cables.
> >
> > > > Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> > > > expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
> >
> > > > I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> > > > Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
> >
> > > > This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> > > > pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> > > > Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> > > > deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> > > > Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding
> from
> > > > here on.
> >
> > > > Peace,
> > > > BB
> >
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RE: [RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

What color? 

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of tomm
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:48 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

Would you be interested in parting with just the frame, fork and headset?

Also, you have prompted me to begin my full-hearted selling of my Sam 
Hillborne.  Its a 60 cm, double top-tubed version, Waterford, < 500 miles.  
Wonderful construction, finish, etc. I was convinced it wouldn't be too big for 
me but it is and I can't get the correct posture / riding position on this 
thing I'm used to, no matter what I try. Its my fault, I should have been more 
thoughtful of the whole thing.  $800 for frame / fork / headset, plus shipping.

I'm actually in the market for a 57-59 cm Hilsen or Ram (or 59 cm Kogswell P/R 
G2) so I had to respond, even though I think the 60 cm SH would be too big for 
you and likely not the right frame if you're looking for a Ram or another 
Hilsen.  If we get the correct orientation of mis-fitting frame owners, maybe 
we can do a multi-owner multiple-frame trade - NBA style.

I can send along photos if interested.

Tom



On Sep 20, 3:56 pm, Kentileguy  wrote:
> Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues 
> that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup & seat, 
> but I'm still not 100% "right" on it. There are a lot of things I like 
> about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack 
> Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
> I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the 
> components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very 
> good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider 
> a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics 
> herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639...
> The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
>  Thanks, Ken

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

[Montclair BobbyB]

Hah!  More like dark dark green.

On Sep 21, 12:55 am, William  wrote:
> Isn't it dark dark dark green?
>
> On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
>
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
> > > wrote:
> > > Initial build pics on Flickr...
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
>
> > > I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> > > Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> > > downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> > > setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> > > should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> > > brake cables.
>
> > > Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> > > expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
>
> > > I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> > > Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
>
> > > This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> > > pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> > > Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> > > deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> > > Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
> > > here on.
>
> > > Peace,
> > > BB
>
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[RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

[tomm]

Would you be interested in parting with just the frame, fork and
headset?

Also, you have prompted me to begin my full-hearted selling of my Sam
Hillborne.  Its a 60 cm, double top-tubed version, Waterford, < 500
miles.  Wonderful construction, finish, etc. I was convinced it
wouldn't be too big for me but it is and I can't get the correct
posture / riding position on this thing I'm used to, no matter what I
try. Its my fault, I should have been more thoughtful of the whole
thing.  $800 for frame / fork / headset, plus shipping.

I'm actually in the market for a 57-59 cm Hilsen or Ram (or 59 cm
Kogswell P/R G2) so I had to respond, even though I think the 60 cm SH
would be too big for you and likely not the right frame if you're
looking for a Ram or another Hilsen.  If we get the correct
orientation of mis-fitting frame owners, maybe we can do a multi-owner
multiple-frame trade - NBA style.

I can send along photos if interested.

Tom



On Sep 20, 3:56 pm, Kentileguy  wrote:
> Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
> that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup & seat,
> but I'm still not 100% "right" on it. There are a lot of things I like
> about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
> Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
> I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
> components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
> good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
> a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics 
> herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639...
> The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
>  Thanks, Ken

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[RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question

[Montclair BobbyB]

Jim:

I actually did something similar this past winter, except with an 8-
speed Shimano Alfine internal-geared hub and a front derailleur (to
run a 2x8 setup).  I used the Alfine chain tensioner (which costs
about $25 and the spring is super strong, ensuring good chain tension
with the front derailleur shifts.  I actually had a triple crank, but
stuck to using 2 of the 3 chainrings in the front (use of the small
crank would have produced a gear so low it could climb a tree and
would over-torque the internals of the hub (according to Shimano).
Having use of the outer chainring provided a nice range of cruising
gears.  I'm sure this 3-speed setup will work just fine, and if you've
got a derailleur to spare, great.  Otherwise consider the Alfine
tensioner... it's the best one I've used, and I've tried a few.  (And
BTW the Alfine hub is superior to any other internal geared hub I've
owned, from Sturmey-Archer to SRAM to Shimano Nexus... The Alfine is
the best.

Peace,
BB

On Sep 21, 12:45 am, James Warren  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
> I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the 
> following idea in mind. In the following pictures:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg
>
> the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is 
> no cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack 
> so that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front 
> derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the 
> bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a 
> pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
> What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use 
> of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter 
> in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front, 
> for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an 
> internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it 
> work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it 
> takes up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?
>
> I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of 
> derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any 
> pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

[William]

Isn't it dark dark dark green?

On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Initial build pics on Flickr...
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
>
> > I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> > Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> > downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> > setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> > should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> > brake cables.
>
> > Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> > expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
>
> > I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> > Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
>
> > This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> > pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> > Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> > deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> > Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
> > here on.
>
> > Peace,
> > BB
>
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> David
> Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

[Montclair BobbyB]

It looks black in the pics, but it's actually dark green... which in
dim light looks awesome (like it's black), then in direct light it
looks forest green.

Michael, I toiled over brakes, and I've been running cantis as my
preferred brakes for years...  Despite this, (and I love the look of
the Pauls) I am actually thrilled with these brakes and am sure I made
the right choice.

BB

On Sep 21, 12:42 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> yesseree.. very nice.. esp withthose Fat Franks... that is "the Bomb"!
>
> one minor comment.maybe switch out those v brakes for some nice
> polished Pauls canti's??
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
>
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
> > > wrote:
> > > Initial build pics on Flickr...
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
>
> > > I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> > > Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> > > downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> > > setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> > > should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> > > brake cables.
>
> > > Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> > > expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
>
> > > I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> > > Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
>
> > > This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> > > pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> > > Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> > > deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> > > Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
> > > here on.
>
> > > Peace,
> > > BB
>
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Re: [RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

[Rob Harrison]

Yah man! Looks *great* with the cream Fat Franks!

Rob in Seattle


On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:17 PM, cyclotourist wrote:


Love, love, love the black w/ cream!


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[RBW] Internal 3-speed QB question

[James Warren]

Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the following 
idea in mind. In the following pictures:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg

the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is no 
cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack so 
that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front 
derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the bike 
has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a pants-guard. 
This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use 
of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter 
in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front, 
for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an 
internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it 
work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it takes 
up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?

I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of derailleur 
hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any pointers would be 
appreciated if it's not too much trouble. 

Thanks,
Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

[Michael_S]

yesseree.. very nice.. esp withthose Fat Franks... that is "the Bomb"!

one minor comment.maybe switch out those v brakes for some nice
polished Pauls canti's??

~Mike~

On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Initial build pics on Flickr...
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
>
> > I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> > Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> > downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> > setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> > should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> > brake cables.
>
> > Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> > expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
>
> > I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> > Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
>
> > This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> > pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> > Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> > deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> > Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
> > here on.
>
> > Peace,
> > BB
>
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Re: [RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

[cyclotourist]

Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:

> Initial build pics on Flickr...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
>
> I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
> Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
> downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
> setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
> should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
> brake cables.
>
> Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
> expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
>
> I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
> Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
>
> This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
> pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
> Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
> deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
> Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
> here on.
>
> Peace,
> BB
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[RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

[Montclair BobbyB]

Initial build pics on Flickr... 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
brake cables.

Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
here on.

Peace,
BB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[cyclotourist]

All this variation begs the question:  Why?  Are they truly the result of an
industry class action suit?  If so, why do some (Quickbeams) have them and
others (Sams) don't?

Curious brains want to know (no e's in that sentence).



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, William  wrote:

> My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce 
> wrote:
> > > I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
> > > Taiwan Sam has them.
> > > Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.
> >
> > > On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William  wrote:
> > >> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> > >> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> > >> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> > >> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> > >> Do you care one way or the other?
> >
> > >> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> > >> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> > >> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> > >> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> > >> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[William]

My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.



On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> > I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
> > Taiwan Sam has them.
> > Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.
>
> > On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William  wrote:
> >> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> >> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> >> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> >> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> >> Do you care one way or the other?
>
> >> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> >> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> >> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> >> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> >> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[PATRICK MOORE]

My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
> Taiwan Sam has them.
> Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.
>
> On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William  wrote:
>> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
>> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
>> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
>> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
>> Do you care one way or the other?
>>
>> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
>> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
>> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
>> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
>> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Jim M.]

My Legolas has them. So does my QB but they have been mentioned. I
find them mildly annoying, but I would have assumed any insurance
company would be insisting on them at this point.



On Sep 20, 4:28 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
> about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
>
> I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
> that "feature".
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Campee Front Rack + panniers

[ejg]

Hi all
I'm sure its a long shot, but I'm looking for a Nitto Campee front
rack (the one with the removeable lowrider pannier supports) and a
couple of Ortlieb panniers for it.

Thanks in advance
EJG

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Beth H]

LL, ca. 1999; A-R, circa 1999: Nope; and nope again.

I do seem to recall that, back in the day, Riv and company offered
something they called a "Paralysis Prevention Device". You had to ask
for one with your frame if you wanted it, and it wasn't mentioned a
whole lot, presumably to avoid freaking people out.
Beth

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Peter Pesce]

I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
Taiwan Sam has them.
Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William  wrote:
> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> Do you care one way or the other?
>
> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

[Bill Gibson]

Someone's thinking about a paint job... :-)

It's great to ride a bike that is good and deserves new paint, even if it
doesn't happen right away.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Beth H  wrote:

> Thanks for posting the photo. I LOVE that burnt honey-mystard color!
> (What year is your Riv? It looks a little newer than mine; I didn't
> have as many colors to choose from in '98 and they weren't offering a
> wide palette of custom colors yet.)
>
> > From: David Sprunger 
> > Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell
>
> > http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/
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[RBW] Rivs at Bristol Rhythm n' Roots

[Leslie]

On Sunday afternoon, was in Bristol (right on State St, on the state
line of TN and VA), at Rhythm n' Roots http://www.bristolrhythm.com/ .

The folks from Mountain Sports Ltd were there w/ a booth, and had a
Hillborne and an Atlantis there.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5006973486/in/pool-64927...@n00/



-L


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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Bruce]

No, when cold enough...





From: JoelMatthews 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 8:09:48 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?


  

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[JoelMatthews]

I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?

On Sep 20, 7:45 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them & it
> was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
> around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
> plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
> tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
> situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked "open" and
> "closed".
>
> dougP
>
> On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
>
>
> > So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has 
> > another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was 
> > sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant 
> > talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some 
> > reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the 
> > bike.-Original Message-
> > From: Horace
> > Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> > The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did 
> > not.On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James 
> > Warrenwrote:
> > For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
> > about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
> > I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not 
> > had that "feature".
>
> > -Original Message-
> > >From: William 
> > >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
> > >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > >Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
>
> > >Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> > >Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> > >how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> > >Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> > >Do you care one way or the other?
>
> > >On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> > >take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> > >the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> > >because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> > >tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

[doug peterson]

"Quirky city bike" just shows the versatility of what can be done with
a Rivendell.  And all these years we heard about "country bike".  At
least the guy zeroed in on the lugs & got into the details.  Just
caught the cool pedals in the last photo.  Color doesn't really go
with the orange but maybe that's part of the "quirky city" thing?

Congrats on getting photo'd.

dougP

On Sep 20, 4:06 pm, jamison brosseau 
wrote:
> the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
> bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
> prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
> see the bikes.
> fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

[Montclair BobbyB]

Jamison:

Hey why ain't your cute girlfriend being noticed on her new red
Stumpy?  :)
Se-iously... I'm 'fraid the dude prolly don't unnerstan the Bomba... u
dig?



On Sep 20, 7:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> What, no pics of the cute girlfriend?  What are they putting in the water 
> there?  A dozen pics of the bikes (nice though they might be) and none of the 
> girl?  
>
> --Eric
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:06 PM, jamison brosseau  
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
> > bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
> > prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
> > see the bikes.
> > fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[doug peterson]

My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them & it
was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked "open" and
"closed".

dougP

On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
> example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
> this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
> bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
> avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
> From: Horace
> Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
> Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenwrote:
> For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
> about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
> I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
> that "feature".
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: William 
> >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> >
> >Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> >Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> >how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> >Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> >Do you care one way or the other?
> >
> >On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> >take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> >the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> >because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> >tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Montclair BobbyB]

Funny I JUST noticed that this evening... My (Waterford) Bombadil does
NOT have em... But I ain't worried... and frankly I like the look of
the fork dropout without them...

On Sep 20, 7:44 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
> example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
> this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
> bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
> avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
> From: Horace
> Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
> Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenwrote:
> For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
> about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
> I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
> that "feature".
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: William 
> >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> >
> >Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> >Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> >how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> >Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> >Do you care one way or the other?
> >
> >On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> >take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> >the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> >because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> >tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[James Warren]

So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.
-Original Message- From: Horace Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips? The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warren  wrote:
For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure about the regular Roms and Redwoods.I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had that "feature".


-Original Message->From: William >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM>To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?>>Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves>Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on>how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big>Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?>Do you care one way or the other?>>On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I>take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On>the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,>because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike>tightly enough.  What a dilemma!>>-->You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.>To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.>--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Rob Harrison]

My Saluki does not have them. I guess I'm ok with that. Never thought  
to look until now.


Rob in Seattle


On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, William wrote:


Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.


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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Horace]

The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warren wrote:

>
> For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure
> about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
>
> I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not
> had that "feature".
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: William 
> >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
> >
> >Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> >Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> >how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> >Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> >Do you care one way or the other?
> >
> >On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> >take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> >the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> >because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> >tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[James Warren]

For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
about the regular Roms and Redwoods.

I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
that "feature".


-Original Message-
>From: William 
>Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
>
>Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
>Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
>how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
>Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
>Do you care one way or the other?
>
>On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
>take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
>the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
>because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
>tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[PATRICK MOORE]

If you use a proper skewer properly, you'll be fine.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, William  wrote:
> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> Do you care one way or the other?
>
> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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Re: [RBW] style central cutest couple.

[Eric Norris]

What, no pics of the cute girlfriend?  What are they putting in the water 
there?  A dozen pics of the bikes (nice though they might be) and none of the 
girl?  

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

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wrote:

> the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
> bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
> prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
> see the bikes.
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[Clayton Scott]

My quickbeam does have LL. I care a little, but not enough to file them off.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, William  wrote:

> Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
> Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
> how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
> Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
> Do you care one way or the other?
>
> On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
> take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
> the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
> because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
> tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

[William]

"The Bombadil is kind of a quirky city bike "

Please!

On Sep 20, 4:06 pm, jamison brosseau 
wrote:
> the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
> bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
> prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
> see the bikes.
> fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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[RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

[William]

Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
Do you care one way or the other?

On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] style central cutest couple.

[jamison brosseau]

the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
see the bikes.
fame is going to my head and stuff. http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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Re: [RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

[Tom Norwood]

Hi Ken
Let me know if you would be interested in a 58 cm Kogswell P.  The P was a
virtual copy of the Ram.


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Re: [RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75

[Rene Valbuena]

is this a pair?


-Original Message-
>From: Adam Kimball 
>Sent: Sep 20, 2010 2:16 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75
>
>Trying this again..
>
>Brand new Paul Racer brake caliper of the center-mount variety.
>Silver -- regular polish.  Cheap way to get into a center-pull brake -
>get one now, and get one later.
>
>$75 or best offer.
>
>-Adam
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[RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75

[Adam Kimball]

Trying this again..

Brand new Paul Racer brake caliper of the center-mount variety.
Silver -- regular polish.  Cheap way to get into a center-pull brake -
get one now, and get one later.

$75 or best offer.

-Adam

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Re: [RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

[John Blish]

Hi Ken,

Might you be interested in a 59 Romulus?  I realize from what you are saying
that my 59 might be a smidge bigger than what you are looking for but just
thought I would inquire.

Best,

John

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Kentileguy  wrote:

> Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
> that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup & seat,
> but I'm still not 100% "right" on it. There are a lot of things I like
> about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
> Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
> I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
> components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
> good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
> a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics here
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639152271/
> The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
>  Thanks, Ken
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[RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

[Kentileguy]

Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup & seat,
but I'm still not 100% "right" on it. There are a lot of things I like
about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639152271/
The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
 Thanks, Ken

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

[Anne Paulson]

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:00 AM, doug peterson  wrote:
> When is the tunnel at Devil's Slide due to be opened?

Not sure, but I don't think it solves the problem for cyclists. The
tunnel starts halfway up the climb. The first half of the climb is
still narrow and twisting.

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[RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

[doug peterson]

When is the tunnel at Devil's Slide due to be opened?

dougP

On Sep 20, 8:06 am, Anne Paulson  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Way Rebb  wrote:
>
> > Devils slide is really what I want to avoid.
>
> And for good reason! I rode it last fall, at around 3 in the afternoon
> on a weekday, going south. I thought I was going to die. Never again.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

[Anne Paulson]

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Way Rebb  wrote:

>
> Devils slide is really what I want to avoid.

And for good reason! I rode it last fall, at around 3 in the afternoon
on a weekday, going south. I thought I was going to die. Never again.


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[RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

[Beth H]

Thanks for posting the photo. I LOVE that burnt honey-mystard color!
(What year is your Riv? It looks a little newer than mine; I didn't
have as many colors to choose from in '98 and they weren't offering a
wide palette of custom colors yet.)

> From: David Sprunger 
> Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

> http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

[Beth H]

Laughing. The only bike that doesn't have fenders is my race bike.

Okay, seriously, drop bars are a possible direction; but I am also
considering moustache bars (with the world's shortest stem, something
like a Nitto Tech 60) and maybe turning this into an unencumbered sort
of "let's pretend I can go fast" bike. I'm not sure 35's would fit
without fender, unless I can find an older set of single-pivot Dia-
Compes or similar. Those dual-pivot brakes take up a TON of vertical
room.

There is no real rush on this. I am enjoying the All-Rounder, and also
having a good time getting ready for cross season on my -- Warning,
non-Riv content! -- Redline Monocog (yup, singlespeed).

Happy riding --Beth

On Sep 20, 6:50 am, Mike  wrote:
> So Beth, what about setting up the LL with 35s...

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Re: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

[Sean Whelan]

David-
What a beautiful bike...Have you ever posted a review of the Berthoud saddle? I 
have been thinking about trying one, but I haven't read any real world reviews.

Cheers and thanks,
Sean Whelan

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From: David Sprunger 
Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 6:37 PM

Rivendellers,

For two years, I've promised to scrub the beausage off my bike and
take some updated pictures.  I have finally done so, and the pictures
are here:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/

After washing away the crust, I rubbed everything down with Pledge
wipes (actually the Target equivalent) as recommended by Joe Bell, and
the paint glistens.

Thanks for your patience,
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

[Mike]

So Beth, what about setting up the LL with 35s without fenders and
just ride it on nice days when rain isn't predicted (cue laughtrack,
Beth lives in Portland, OR). I've had a similar issue with my
Rambouillet. Right now it is grudgingly sporting 32s and  waiting for
fenders. For the most part I've found 32s to work pretty well for me
but there is something about 35s that seems a little better. I don't
know maybe it's some of the stuff Grant mentioned in Tire Tips (http://
www.rivbike.com/article/components/tire_tips).

After looking at the pictures of your bikes, I say definitely set the
LL up with drops and 35s without fenders. Just give it a shot.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks, Beth and Jim -- very nice.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Beth H  wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:30 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> Photo, please!
>
> Oh. Right, sorry about that.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4982920303/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4983518560/
>
> And, um, Steve -- yeah, the 650b thought has crossed my mind.
> Just so you know.
> ..::grin::..
> meanwhile, the LL is getting stripped of parts and I'm going to, well,
> sit and stare at it for awhile and see what it says to me.
> (What, don't any of you just sit and stare at your bike or frame now
> and then?)
> Beth
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[RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

[Mike]

Beautiful bike. Thanks for sharing photos. Looks like a great set-up.

--mike

On Sep 19

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Shimano 7-speed indexed mountain bike thumbshifters

[Montclair BobbyB]

We can cancel this request, thanks... I think I may have it resolved.
After consulting Sheldon Brown (God bless this man's legacy!), he gave
me (yet another) great shifter tip. (The first shifter tip I got from
him a few years ago was to run a low-normal derailleur with bar-end
shifters so that the shifters move in the same direction (down for
downshifts, up for upshifts), which as it turns out I much prefer.

His latest tip: Suntour index shifters pull less cable than the
Shimano, so using a Suntour shifter on a Shimano 6-speed freewheel
would cause an undershift... However, the same 6-speed shifter on a
Shimano 7-speed freewheel pulls close to the right amount of cable
(according to Sheldon), and there is actually room for a 7th shift on
the 6-speed Suntour shifters, using the limiter screw to "unlimit" the
derailleur movement.

SO... as I install my blingy Riv bullmoose bars on my Bombadil this
week (just waiting for some final cable-swap hardware), I'll shortly
be installing (6-speed) Suntour XC LS 7000 thumb shifters to
(hopefully) work well with my 7-speed Shimano-compatible freewheel.
Fingers crossed, in Sheldon we trust.

If all else fails, these shifters have a friction option.

BB

On Sep 15, 8:19 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> ... for my Bombadil... I already have beautiful M700 friction
> shifters, but would like to have the option of indexing.  I'd prefer
> to use older Shimano mountain shifters than Paul thumbies.
>
> Looking to buy (or possibly swap a set of vintage Suntour XC friction
> thumb shifters).
>
> Thanks,
> BB

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

[Ken Yokanovich]

On Sep 19, 8:52 pm, Beth H  wrote:
 (What, don't any of you just sit and stare at your bike or frame now
and then?)

Actually, quite often.  I will often admire the subtle differences in
the lugs.  I guess that makes me a SERIOUS but proud bike geek.

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[RBW] Re: WTB 1994 Bridgestone MB-1

[Ken Yokanovich]

Micheal, I know that it's not THE answer that you are looking for AND
it would be A LOT more expensive, but you could contact Rivendell and
have a new custom made in the STYLE of an MB-1.  You could get one of
the new Pacenti fork crowns up front, some really fantastic
craftsmanship, and a bicycle designed just for you.  It might seem a
bit extravagant for an off-roader, but boy... Sure would be a fun
project.

On Sep 15, 2:17 am, Michael Williams 
wrote:
> Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 they want to sell. I know its a long
> shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame, whatever was the largest
> that year. Thanks, Mike

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