Re: [RBW] Re: Shimano Deore XT BR-M750 Direct Pull V Brakes

[Josiah Anderson]

Joe is right, you want long pull levers for v-brakes. A canti (short pull)
lever can sometimes kind of work with a v-brake, and I've done that before
to make the brakes exceptionally powerful, but the lever feel will be quite
spongy and the pads will be very close to the rim. It's not a recommended
combination unless you're specifically trying to do something strange and
you know exactly what you're getting into. Not sure what your LBS was
thinking recommending that; there was probably some miscommunication or
something.

Josiah Anderson
Missoula, MT

Le jeu. 9 mars 2023 à 9:36 AM, Michael Moore, Jr. 
a écrit :

> I don't know. The advice seemed odd to me, but I thought maybe I'm
> missing something. Hence the need for a second opinion.
>
> I already have the Paul Canti levers on the bike, and they strongly
> encouraged that I keep them even with the change from canti to v-brakes.
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 1:07 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Is your LBS high? (that's a Humboldt joke) Those are long-pull brakes and
>> need a long pull lever, I've used those Pauls with other Shimano v-brakes
>> and they're great. Why does the shop person think you need short-pull
>> levers?
>>
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-8 freefo...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Folks,
>>>
>>> I am thinking of pairing Paul's Love Levers with Shimano Deore XT
>>> BR-M750 Direct Pull V Brakes. My LBS thinks it;s a bad idea, and that I
>>> should with the Canti Lever. Does anyone have experience with the BR-M750
>>> Paul lever pairing?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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>>> Humboldt County
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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Bunch - Hover Bar

[Patrick Moore]

List, sorry but I didn't hear back from John.  John: Sorry to post publicly
but am v interested in bar. Please contact me offlist

bertin 753 [at] g etc.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 10:09 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> John: Thanks very much; I am still interested. Please let me know how much
> shipped to 87120.
>
> Best, Patrick
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 8:30 AM John Stroh  wrote:
>
>> Good morning, Patrick,
>>
>> You may well have already found the Specialized Hover Bar elsewhere, but
>> I wanted to let you know that my father found the bar we had been looking
>> for, quite by accident in the end. It was buried somewhere we wouldn't have
>> ever thought to look.
>>
>> If you're still potentially interested, please let me know.
>>
>> All my best,
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 10:49 AM Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John: First, many thanks indeed for taking so much trouble to look for
>>> it; I do appreciate your effort. Second, no need at all to be sorry; I'm in
>>> no rush and the bar is not that expensive new, and I may simply order one
>>> from a site I think I bookmarked.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Patrick Moore]

IME thumb loops, or perhaps just using the loops for your thumbs, works
better than looping a cape to the bar. (Fortunately my Campmore has those.)

Yes to waist straps; my current Campmore had elastic leg loops instead of a
waist strap that were very awkward to get into. I cut them off and sewed a
sufficient weight of small stacks of large washers at 2 or 3 points along
the bottom rear seam, and this works (for me at any rate) even better than
a waist strap. Pull the poncho over your head, stick thumbs in loops, get
on bike, rear naturally falls to cover saddlebag.

Next modification: cut off hood, since I have a Grundens hat.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Slin  wrote:

>
> Stephanie -
>
> Wow, the Kiu seems like a great design for a much better price ($50 on
> sale now) with a reflective bright yellow too. Can you tell me what it has
> in the inside? Does it have hand/handlebar loops or a waist strap?
>

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Re: [RBW] MKS Grip Monarch Gamma "Panda" Pedals

[Matthew Williams]

lol

> On Mar 9, 2023, at 5:45 PM, Doug H.  wrote:
> 
> !sladep eciN
> gouD
> 
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> !seY !spoohW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 1:52 PM, lconley > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Aren't those actually the "adnap" version? The panda versions have a silver 
>>> body with black cages.
>>> 
>>> Laing
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
 MKS Grip Monarch Gamma “panda” pedals. 
 
 New in the box. Never mounted or used. 
 
 $90 with local pickup in the SF Bay Area. Add $15 for shipping to points 
 beyond. 
 
 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] MKS Grip Monarch Gamma "Panda" Pedals

[Doug H.]

!sladep eciN
gouD

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> !seY !spoohW
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2023, at 1:52 PM, lconley  wrote:
>
> Aren't those actually the "adnap" version? The panda versions have a 
> silver body with black cages.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> MKS Grip Monarch Gamma “panda” pedals. 
>>
>> New in the box. Never mounted or used. 
>>
>> $90 with local pickup in the SF Bay Area. Add $15 for shipping to points 
>> beyond. 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Mr. Ray]

I bought my Berthoud 60mm x 650b here in stock.  If you have a front rack, 
buy the "long version" in the link otherwise buy the "short version":

https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/1406-stainless-smooth-fenders-650b-x-60mm-front-long-w-hardware-polished.html?_gl=1*4zzmn0*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTE3NjA2MTg2MS4xNjc4NDEwMzY0*_ga_LLD45P3CY9*MTY3ODQxMDM2NC4xLjEuMTY3ODQxMDM3MS41My4wLjA.

They also sell them in black.


On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Not so fast, Doug!  Alas, there are no 60mm Berthoud 650B fenders that I 
> can find, so it looks like the V-O 58mm wavies are the best easy choice 
> after all...
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:36 PM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Edwin :^)  These might be my winner, cheaper than anything but on 
>> sale V-O and the widest (of the economical options) that will fit without 
>> manipulation...
>>
>> Doug 
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 2:34 PM Edwin W  wrote:
>>
>>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Mackenzy Albright]

Just FYI when I installed honjo smooth 62 fenders on my clementine they fit 
width wise, but decided to run a 2mm wider BB to avoid the need of cutting 
the fender for chain rub. Or maybe I ran a BB spacer? I can't remember off 
the top of my head now that I type this. But the included riv BB rubbed 
*slightly* on the fender when in the small chain wheel and largest rear cog 
and didn't feel like cutting up the fender.  

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:40:28 PM UTC-8 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Not so fast, Doug!  Alas, there are no 60mm Berthoud 650B fenders that I 
> can find, so it looks like the V-O 58mm wavies are the best easy choice 
> after all...
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:36 PM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Edwin :^)  These might be my winner, cheaper than anything but on 
>> sale V-O and the widest (of the economical options) that will fit without 
>> manipulation...
>>
>> Doug 
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 2:34 PM Edwin W  wrote:
>>
>>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Leah Peterson]

Tyler, I love it. This is the greatest reply, ever. If you two dig up more of these photographic gems, please show them to us here. I love that he actually passed a love of cycling to you - I think we all wish we we knew how to do that. My boys will ride, but they don’t get the joy I get from it. They do it to get around. And I am not sure they ever look down at their Clems and think they are beautiful bikes. They just ride.On Mar 9, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Tyler Dewey  wrote:Leah,Yes, that is me in those photos! Pops and I have been riding together pretty much since I was born. I celebrated my 1st birthday on a bike tour and never really stopped. I don't know how many miles we logged together, but I imagine it would qualify for an around the world patch. Pops introduced me to the Rivendell Reader when I was in high school, and now I ride the black and cream canti-Hillborne he posted. -TylerDurham, NCOn Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be brothers. What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! LOn Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/Jock DeweyOn Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my tiny family members.(I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment for a better experience for the tortured family members?Leah



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[RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Slin]

Stephanie -

Wow, the Kiu seems like a great design for a much better price ($50 on sale 
now) with a reflective bright yellow too. Can you tell me what it has in 
the inside? Does it have hand/handlebar loops or a waist strap?

Thanks. 

Slin

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 5:14:03 PM UTC-8 Stephanie A. wrote:

> I use a kiu reflective bike poncho and love it!
>
> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:00:07 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I rock either a Space Age Bags Zine Holder or large ILE Porteur bag for 
>> cargo. I like the Torrentshell jacket from Patagonia plus the Showers Pass 
>> pants n Gore C3 shoe covers. My fenders def help, too. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:57:13 PM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, 
>>> Rainy season is almost over in the Bay Area, but I'm going to be try and 
>>> be more prepared next year.  I am looking at ponchos, and I have decided 
>>> that the PEOPLE'S PONCHO is the one I'm going to buy.  But, I'd love to 
>>> hear/see what everybody else is rocking for their rainy day full coverage 
>>> (including front basket and bag) rain gear.  I know there are going to be 
>>> varied responses here, but I'm hoping we can focus on PONCHOS
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Not so fast, Doug!  Alas, there are no 60mm Berthoud 650B fenders that I
can find, so it looks like the V-O 58mm wavies are the best easy choice
after all...

Doug

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:36 PM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

> Thanks Edwin :^)  These might be my winner, cheaper than anything but on
> sale V-O and the widest (of the economical options) that will fit without
> manipulation...
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 2:34 PM Edwin W  wrote:
>
>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Thanks Edwin :^)  These might be my winner, cheaper than anything but on
sale V-O and the widest (of the economical options) that will fit without
manipulation...

Doug

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 2:34 PM Edwin W  wrote:

> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to
>> spend though :^(
>>
>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to
>> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if
>> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it
>> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up
>> ugly or ruined…
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
>> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my
>>> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These
>>> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I
>>> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Yikes, of course...  If they are already max width, widening them to fit
the smaller radius is NOT a great idea after all.  Thanks for the reality
check :^)

Doug

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:01 PM DavidP  wrote:

> Re-radiusing aluminum fenders is possible
> , the concern in this
> case is that the VO 63mm fenders are already as wide as will fit. I suppose
> it may possible to do the "widening" on most of the fender, leaving the
> places where it would hit frame/fork alone, and this line from the linked
> article may suggest that could work "You don't need to do a lot at a time.
> Little bits over the length of the fender can decrease the radius enough to
> work."
>
> -Dave
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:48:37 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to
>> spend though :^(
>>
>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to
>> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if
>> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it
>> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up
>> ugly or ruined…
>>
>> Doug
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Edwin W]

Not to rub it in, but yes, the Riv Grundens poncho is the best ever. So 
sorry they do not have them any more. Maybe they need to do  another run, 
but I am sure then they would be $$$.

I have the Grundens, but also have a Vaude Valdipino 
 that 
is very easy to stash somewhere (I keep one at work) in case something 
comes up.

Edwin

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:41:16 PM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote:

> Love my cleverhood.  It stays in the bottom of the Wald on my Hunq and is 
> there when I need it.  Highly recommended, and they have sales often.
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:59:04 PM UTC-6 Slin wrote:
>
>> Oh wow, the Blue Lug poncho is designed to be draped over handlebars or 
>> even a front basket, while still keeping the hands free to (maybe) signal.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/fLS69h0YwZA?t=194
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
>>> carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to 
 sell. They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
 unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
 beat. 

 It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said 
 he'd see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I 
 assume not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if 
 something 
 happens to it though!
 On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:

> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use 
> a rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link 
> below).  I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers 
> them? Sadly the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ 
> years 
> out of them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>
> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>
> Al
>
> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
>> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
>> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
>>  
>> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my 
>> friends 
>> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:
>>
>>> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
>>> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
>>> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>>>
>>> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
>>> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came 
>>> in 
>>> high viz colors/designs. 
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
>>> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>>>
>>> [image: yehuda.gif]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms 
 when riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty 
 color 
 swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in 
 the 
 puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy 
 rain) 
 every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
 Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while 
> now. It works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from 
> recommending it to everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any 
> of 
> the Riv variants, the water will pool between the bars. Not a big 
> deal but 
> it happens as these seem to be designed more for drop bars?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[DavidP]

Re-radiusing aluminum fenders is possible 
, the concern in this 
case is that the VO 63mm fenders are already as wide as will fit. I suppose 
it may possible to do the "widening" on most of the fender, leaving the 
places where it would hit frame/fork alone, and this line from the linked 
article may suggest that could work "You don't need to do a lot at a time. 
Little bits over the length of the fender can decrease the radius enough to 
work."

-Dave

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:48:37 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to 
> spend though :^(
>
> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
> ugly or ruined…
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
>> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
>> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
>> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] MKS Grip Monarch Gamma "Panda" Pedals

[Matthew Williams]

!seY !spoohW



> On Mar 9, 2023, at 1:52 PM, lconley  wrote:
> 
> Aren't those actually the "adnap" version? The panda versions have a silver 
> body with black cages.
> 
> Laing
> 
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> MKS Grip Monarch Gamma “panda” pedals. 
>> 
>> New in the box. Never mounted or used. 
>> 
>> $90 with local pickup in the SF Bay Area. Add $15 for shipping to points 
>> beyond. 
>> 
>> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: MKS Grip Monarch Gamma "Panda" Pedals

[lconley]

Aren't those actually the "adnap" version? The panda versions have a silver 
body with black cages.

Laing

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> MKS Grip Monarch Gamma “panda” pedals.
>
> New in the box. Never mounted or used.
>
> $90 with local pickup in the SF Bay Area. Add $15 for shipping to points 
> beyond.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Dave Grossman]

Love my cleverhood.  It stays in the bottom of the Wald on my Hunq and is 
there when I need it.  Highly recommended, and they have sales often.

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:59:04 PM UTC-6 Slin wrote:

> Oh wow, the Blue Lug poncho is designed to be draped over handlebars or 
> even a front basket, while still keeping the hands free to (maybe) signal.
>
> https://youtu.be/fLS69h0YwZA?t=194
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
> wrote:
>
>> Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
>> carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to 
>>> sell. They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
>>> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
>>> beat. 
>>>
>>> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said 
>>> he'd see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I 
>>> assume not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if something 
>>> happens to it though!
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>>>
 I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
 rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below). 
  
 I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
 the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
 them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.

 (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )

 Al

 **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post

 On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
>  
> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my 
> friends 
> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:
>
>> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
>> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
>> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>>
>> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
>> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came 
>> in 
>> high viz colors/designs. 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>>
>>
>>
>> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
>> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>>
>> [image: yehuda.gif]
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms 
>>> when riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty 
>>> color 
>>> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
>>> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
>>> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
>>> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. 
 It works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from 
 recommending it 
 to everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv 
 variants, 
 the water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as 
 these seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Edwin W]

Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.

Edwin

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to 
> spend though :^(
>
> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
> ugly or ruined…
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
>> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
>> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
>> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 48cm Sam Hillborne

[G.E.]

Just commenting to bump to the top. Also, the bike has now been cleaned 
since the ice has thawed (at least for a bit). :)

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:

> I am selling my 48cm Sam Hillborne. Never thought this day would come, but 
> here we are -- Must thin the herd. I am the original owner (purchased in 
> 2010). This is being sold as a full-build, as pictured. This bike has been 
> used and well-loved, but it has always been stored (when not in use) 
> indoors. Buyer should expect use marks on everything, paint chips, etc. 
> It's not beat up, but it was used.  I have many photos that are closer-up, 
> so just reach out if you'd like details or more photos.
>
> - 48cm Samuel Hillborne frameset
> - 170mm Sugino crank with 46-36-26 (or 24) teeth (I need to verify the 
> little one, but if it makes a difference for you, just ask, and I'm happy 
> to double check)
> - Sora front derailleur
> - XT rear derailleur
> - Shimano bar end shifters (3x9)
> - Cassette is 11-32
> - Tektro cantilever brakes
> -  Nitto stem (5cm reach) - note that it is at its lowest point, but could 
> be raised higher, if needed/wanted
> - Schwalbe Marathon tires (650Bx42 - they only have about 10 miles on them)
> - 650B wheelset (purchased from Rivendell after owning the bike for 
> several years... they may have a few hundred miles on them, at most)
> - Albatross handlebars (currently flipped upside down)
> - Brooks B-17 leather saddle
> - Nitto Campee rear rack
> - VP flat pedals
> - Two bottle cages; one of them is designed to hold a larger bottle, the 
> other is a standard King cage
> - Kickstand
> - Currently, the handlebars have leather bar tape that has been well-loved 
> ( new owner will likely want new bar tape, but I'm happy to send it along)
> - Nitto F15 Handlebar bag support. I have a bag I've used on this, and am 
> happy to send it along to the new owner, but be aware it has been plastered 
> with various patches over the years which may or may not be to the new 
> owner's liking. :-) It's a great bag though!
>
> Anything I've left out, please feel free to drop me a note. I'm asking 
> $1500 (buyer will pay exact shipping costs). The bike is not yet packed up, 
> but if someone has interest, I can get a box and get it packed to get a 
> shipping quote. Also, I've given the Sam a wet wipe down, but note that it 
> could use a "real" bath at some point. Everything is frozen here for the 
> foreseeable winter though, so I don't think I can make it happen at this 
> time.
> [image: SH1.jpg]
> [image: SH2.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2023 March 1 Bikes for sale thread: Craigslist etc.

[Eric Marth]

LOL came here 2 post this, tipped off by Luke who has already commented my 
world is a closed circle 

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 11:35:04 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Killed me to see that, but his Bomba is so 🔥 that it makes sense to move 
> this one along. I only wish that I were in the market… A Hunq has been a 
> dream of mine, second only to an Atlantis. 
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:20:19 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Saw on Instagram that John Prolly from the Radavist is selling his 
>> Hunq[image: 
>> Screenshot_20230309-091723.png]
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:58:01 PM UTC-5 mitchel...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 51cm Appaloosa Frameset
>>> Los Angeles ,CA
>>> $1,500
>>>
>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/santa-monica-rivendell-appaloosa-51cm/7595081671.html
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 Such a dreamy build…

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:23:03 PM UTC-8 Matthew P wrote:

> Starting with this Legolas in Portland that I've thought about buying 
> myself:
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7591649041.html
>
> Full build details are available here:
>
> https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to
spend though :^(

I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to
reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if
you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it
would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up
ugly or ruined…

Doug

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) 
wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my
> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These
> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I
> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>
> Paul
>

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[RBW] Re: 26" dynamo wheelset, studded tires

[Joe D.]

Studded tires are sold!

Wheels and lights are still available for $200 shipped.

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 8:27:34 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:

> To answer some questions I got -- Yes, they fit in the Surly frames that 
> take the whole variety of wheels sizes, from quick release, thru-axle, to 
> boost.
>
> And yes, I'll sell just the wheels and lights. That's $200 shipped.
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 1:22:16 PM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>
>> And I forgot to mention that I'm happy to separate out the  Schwalbe 
>> studded tires (26" X 2") for $80, shipped.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:28:10 PM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>>
>>> Wishing-for-spring cleanout!
>>>
>>> For sale is the dynamo wheelset off my Yuba Mundo cargo bike. These are 
>>> like new, maybe ~500 miles. 15 x 100 TA front, 12 x 142 TA rear, disc only. 
>>> They're 36 hole wheels and made to carry insane amounts of weight. Front 
>>> hub is Shimano DH-UR708-3D Dynamo hub, 6v 3w (hub retails new for about ~ 
>>> $120 by itself). Rear hub is unknown Shimano model. Rims are WTB SX 23 
>>> (23mm internal width).
>>>
>>> Also included are the lights and wiring. Front light is a 50 lumen 
>>> Trelock LS 382 VIO (new for ~ $50). Rear light is AXA Blueline Steady (~ 
>>> $20 new).
>>>
>>> And finally, the studded tires I used, Schwalbe Marathon Winter Plus, 
>>> 26" X 2" (retail new ~ $80 per tire). These are fantastic on ice and 
>>> hardpacked snow. All studs are in. Only ~75 miles on these this winter.
>>>
>>> I'm only selling because I got a plus size wheelset so I could run 
>>> bigger tires in the cargo bike.
>>>
>>> $300, shipped, for everything, unless you want to meet in person in 
>>> Helena, MT.
>>>
>>> Also open to trades, specifically an old 26+ bike that takes 100qr 
>>> front, 135qr rear (surly troll, etc.), and ideally frame only, since I 
>>> already have a Troll fork. Or a cheap old fat bike. I also have and could 
>>> part with an '88 Schwinn Traveler converted to gravel riding with flat 
>>> bars, 1x drivetrain, and 40mm knobby tires, plus a '94 Marin Pine Mountain 
>>> frame with a Surly Troll fork, if you really want to wheel and deal :)
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Slin]

Oh wow, the Blue Lug poncho is designed to be draped over handlebars or 
even a front basket, while still keeping the hands free to (maybe) signal.

https://youtu.be/fLS69h0YwZA?t=194



On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:

> Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
> carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to sell. 
>> They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
>> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
>> beat. 
>>
>> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said 
>> he'd see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I 
>> assume not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if something 
>> happens to it though!
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>>
>>> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
>>> rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below).  
>>> I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
>>> the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
>>> them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>>>
>>> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
 about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
 https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
  
 It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my 
 friends 
 were amazed that I had good things to say.

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:

> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>
> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
> high viz colors/designs. 
> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>
>
>
> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>
> [image: yehuda.gif]
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms 
>> when riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty 
>> color 
>> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
>> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
>> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
>> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. 
>>> It works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending 
>>> it 
>>> to everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv 
>>> variants, 
>>> the water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as 
>>> these seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:

> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to sell. 
> They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
> beat. 
>
> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said he'd 
> see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I assume 
> not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if something 
> happens to it though!
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>
>> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
>> rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below).  
>> I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
>> the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
>> them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>>
>> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>>
>> Al
>>
>> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
>>> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
>>> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
>>>  
>>> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my friends 
>>> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:
>>>
 @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
 probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
 over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).

 If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
 canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
 high viz colors/designs. 
 https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html



 @Carlos and @Patrick - 
 http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/

 [image: yehuda.gif]

 On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when 
> riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color 
> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. 
>> It works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending 
>> it 
>> to everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv 
>> variants, 
>> the water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as 
>> these seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to sell. 
They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
beat. 

It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said he'd 
see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I assume 
not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if something 
happens to it though!
On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:

> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
> rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below).  
> I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
> the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
> them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>
> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>
> Al
>
> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
>> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
>> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html). 
>> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my friends 
>> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:
>>
>>> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
>>> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
>>> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>>>
>>> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
>>> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
>>> high viz colors/designs. 
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
>>> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>>>
>>> [image: yehuda.gif]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when 
 riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color 
 swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
 puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
 every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
 Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It 
> works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending it 
> to 
> everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, 
> the 
> water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these 
> seem to be designed more for drop bars?

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[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[RichS]

Yet another Sam! Looks good Ted. They're popping up a lot here lately. We 
should call ourselves "Sam's Club" Hope your daughter lets you visit 
frequently.

Best,
Rich in ATL -riding a "vintage" sage green Sam

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:07:20 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> Okay, I finally made it out to LA and met my new Sam. Kudos to Simon at 
> the Cub House for his persnickety perfection in building, which involved a 
> trip to the hardware store for just the right brass spacer for the 
> headlight mount.  Two rides on it, one of them on a fire road ascent and 
> sketchy hiking trail descent, both of  them with a lot of climbing and 
> descending, and my opinion (fwiw) is the bike rides better than it looks. 
> And I think it looks pretty good!  On paper and according to my personal 
> cubit, the stem is too short. On the road and trail the position is 
> perfect, and it has me thinking about shortening the stems on a couple of 
> other bikes. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA (though this bike lives in Los Angeles, CA)
> [image: IMG_1059.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Long ride on a Sam Hillborne

[RichS]

Paul, your ride sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for all the images. I like 
the spontaneity and variety of terrain/neighborhoods you explored. Reminds 
me of many of my rides. And of course the Sam is conducive to a just keep 
riding mindset; knocking out 73 miles is no problem for septuagenarians 
like us:-)))

Best,
Rich in ATL 

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 10:52:52 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> I just saw inquiry on my Sam's handlebar and stem.
>
> The bars are Sunlite North Road in the alloy version.
>
> They are also offered in a slightly heavier steel version.
>
> The stem is a bit of a Nitto dirt drop knock off I found on amazon.
>
> It works well but the name on it is laughableFito.
>
>
>
> Paul in Dallas.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[a spen]

I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below).  
I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.

(https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )

Al

**sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html). 
> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my friends 
> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:
>
>> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
>> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
>> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>>
>> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
>> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
>> high viz colors/designs. 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>>
>>
>>
>> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
>> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>>
>> [image: yehuda.gif]
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when 
>>> riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color 
>>> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
>>> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
>>> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
>>> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It 
 works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending it to 
 everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, 
 the 
 water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these 
 seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: PSA Sale on Shimano Deore M591 9-Speed Rear Derailleur

[a spen]

This seems like the perfect use of my REI earned points. 
Thank you for sharing!
Al


On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 1:36:37 PM UTC-5 Wesley wrote:

> On that subject, I recently bought a rear derailer made by S-Ride, one of 
> the Soma family of brands. Every weekend this winter they've been running 
> big discounts (if you subscribe to their emails) - usually 30-50% off. 
> Anyway, I got mine for $15 and it's good.
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/590834-s-ride-rear-derailleur-long-cage-9-8-sp-black-rd-m300-5789
> -W
>
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:08:56 AM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:
>
>> With all the news about Shimano discontinuing lines and what not, I 
>> thought it might be wise to stash a couple of things just in case, but I 
>> didn't want to spend a lot...
>>
>> I found the Shimano Deore M591 9-Speed Rear Derailleur on sale at REI for 
>> $38.93, that's not bad for good performing RD, it's not silver, but at that 
>> price I'll take it.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rei.com/product/798943/shimano-deore-m591-9-speed-rear-derailleur
>>
>> Hope this is helpful
>> Max
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[藍俊彪]

I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot about
pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my friends
were amazed that I had good things to say.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:

> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I probably
> wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit over-engineered
> (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>
> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed
> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in
> high viz colors/designs.
> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>
>
>
> @Carlos and @Patrick -
> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>
> [image: yehuda.gif]
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when
>> riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color
>> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the
>> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain)
>> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the
>> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It
>>> works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending it to
>>> everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, the
>>> water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these
>>> seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Slin]

@Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I probably 
wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit over-engineered 
(tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).

If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
high viz colors/designs. 
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html



@Carlos and @Patrick - 
http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/

[image: yehuda.gif]

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when 
> riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color 
> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It 
>> works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending it to 
>> everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, the 
>> water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these 
>> seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Patrick Moore]

I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when
riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color
swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the
puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain)
every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the
Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com  wrote:

> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It
> works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending it to
> everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, the
> water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these
> seem to be designed more for drop bars?

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[RBW] Re: FS: More wool clothes - Kitsbow Icon, REI Jacket, BSA Wool Jacket

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:35:56 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Last bump on these, $35 for the pair.
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:45:45 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Kitsbow is sold, other two remain with price drops:
>>
>> 2) REI Wool Blend Jacket Mens Medium - $25
>>
>> 3) Boy Scouts of America Wool Jacket - $20
>>
>> Or both for $40
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some more items that didn't make the cut this winter:
>>>
>>> 1) Kitsbow Icon Mens Medium - Sedona Ombre, Signature Fit - $160
>>> --In great shape, no rips/tears. Some fuzz and pilling that can be 
>>> cleaned up. Their signature fit is a bit tighter than a regular fit, lots 
>>> more info on the Kitsbow site on this one. One of the best cycling flannels 
>>> available.
>>>
>>> 2) REI Wool Blend Jacket Mens Medium - $30
>>> --This is an older model made in Canada. Wool blend jacket (tag is faded 
>>> so I can't determine blend amounts) reminiscent of Ibex jackets I've used 
>>> in the past. I intended this to be a chore jacket, but a friend gifted me a 
>>> Filson jacket for that purpose instead. In great shape, no stains that I 
>>> can see. Fits well as a layering piece with a flannel or sweater underneath.
>>>
>>> 3) Boy Scouts of America Wool Jacket - $25
>>> --This is labeled as a size 42, it fits me well as a layering piece and 
>>> I usually wear medium clothes. This is a thick wool jacket, great red 
>>> buttons, two flap pockets. There's some stains on the outside that I 
>>> haven't tried to get out but assume are semi-permanent. I used this as a 
>>> chore jacket for in the garage.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SELK7K5zmvBDNN9CA
>>>
>>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. I'll plan on using 
>>> Pirateship
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Tyler Dewey]

Leah,

Yes, that is me in those photos! Pops and I have been riding together 
pretty much since I was born. I celebrated my 1st birthday on a bike tour 
and never really stopped. I don't know how many miles we logged together, 
but I imagine it would qualify for an around the world patch. Pops 
introduced me to the Rivendell Reader when I was in high school, and now I 
ride the black and cream canti-Hillborne he posted. 

-Tyler
Durham, NC

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
> *brothers. 
> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>
> L
>
> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
> Jock Dewey
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>> tiny family members.
>>
>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>
>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 38x24 Silver crankset, Albastache bars, Silver2 shifters + bar-end pods + thumb shift mounts

[Joshua Yearsley]

Crank length is 170.

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> What’s the crank length?
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-5 jdyea...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I went down a Rivendell rabbit hole and tried out a bunch of stuff, but 
>> I've decided to go a different direction. I've used all of these for just a 
>> few rides, so they're basically as close to new as you can get.
>>
>> 38x24 Silver crankset
>> Nitto Albastache bars
>> Silver2 shifters x2
>> Silver bar-end pods x2
>> Silver thumb-shift mounts x2
>>
>> I'd love to ship all this out to one person if possible. All together, it 
>> goes for ~$630 new. How about $500 shipped? Also accepting best offers 
>> within reason.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 38x24 Silver crankset, Albastache bars, Silver2 shifters + bar-end pods + thumb shift mounts

[Jon Dukeman]

Crank length:
Mine is 170.
Measured from center of crank bolt to center of pedal axle.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 9:40 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> What’s the crank length?
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-5 jdyea...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I went down a Rivendell rabbit hole and tried out a bunch of stuff, but
>> I've decided to go a different direction. I've used all of these for just a
>> few rides, so they're basically as close to new as you can get.
>>
>> 38x24 Silver crankset
>> Nitto Albastache bars
>> Silver2 shifters x2
>> Silver bar-end pods x2
>> Silver thumb-shift mounts x2
>>
>> I'd love to ship all this out to one person if possible. All together, it
>> goes for ~$630 new. How about $500 shipped? Also accepting best offers
>> within reason.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shimano Deore XT BR-M750 Direct Pull V Brakes

[Michael Moore, Jr.]

I don't know. The advice seemed odd to me, but I thought maybe I'm
missing something. Hence the need for a second opinion.

I already have the Paul Canti levers on the bike, and they strongly
encouraged that I keep them even with the change from canti to v-brakes.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 1:07 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Is your LBS high? (that's a Humboldt joke) Those are long-pull brakes and
> need a long pull lever, I've used those Pauls with other Shimano v-brakes
> and they're great. Why does the shop person think you need short-pull
> levers?
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-8 freefo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>> I am thinking of pairing Paul's Love Levers with Shimano Deore XT BR-M750
>> Direct Pull V Brakes. My LBS thinks it;s a bad idea, and that I should with
>> the Canti Lever. Does anyone have experience with the BR-M750 Paul lever
>> pairing?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] WTB ~55cm Atlantis 3/MIT

[Tyler McClure]

Seeking a 55ish cm Atlantis, preferably the new geometry. I have access to 
one brand new frame(+S&H), from a member of this group, but I would like to 
potentially find a used frame or complete. If i can't find one in the near 
future, I will be contacting the LBS that has the brand new frame in stock. 
I have been searching for awhile now and have not had any luck. I have 
posted on the FB group and use Search Tempest everyday. Let me know what 
you might have access to!

Thank you everyone that has provided me with very valuable bike information 
in the past,

Tyler

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[Paul (GlennsBikeGarage)]

Doug,

I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my daughter's 
51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These fenders fit 
without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I would consider 
these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.

Paul

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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[reca...@gmail.com]

I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. It 
works great and have been pleasantly surprised with how durable the waxing 
has been. The only downsides I see are that it's a bit heavy to carry 
around off the bike and the straps can be a little fussy to use. The only 
other thing that keeps me from recommending it to everyone is that if you 
ride upright bars like any of the Riv variants, the water will pool between 
the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as these seem to be designed more 
for drop bars? All minor niggles for me in the end as it works better than 
any rain jacket I've used. 

carlos

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-6 Stephen wrote:

> I just got my first bike poncho recently from a list member after being 
> poncho curious for awhile. Its the yellow grundens variety that Rivendell 
> used to sell but I do not think it is made anymore. It has served me very 
> well in the few pours I've worn it in, along with fenders being crucial. 
> When I was looking at purchasing a poncho new I was leaning towards the 
> waxed canvas one made by Carradice as I try to avoid plastics and 
> synthetics, the only downsides to it being a drab and dark color for urban 
> riding, and potentially a little heavier. For my basket I've just used my 
> sackville shop sack, and haven't had anything too important in the bag. 
> Water definitely gets in the zipper opening. I've thought a shop sack 
> combined with a smaller backpack style rain cover over the top like a 
> shower cap would be a good combo for keeping things dry.
>
> -Stephen
>
> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:02:10 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dazzle camo on a rain cape is a bold move! I love it! Those drivers can’t 
>> tell how big or small you are, or what direction you’re headed… might as 
>> well mess with ‘em!
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> More riding to you!  ponchos are great for short jaunts.
>>
>>
>>  I don’t like riding in the rain but if it’s not too bad I’ll ride home 
>> from work wearing my CleverHood Cape, dazzle print in the tall size for 
>> more coverage 
>> https://cleverhood.com/products/rover-rain-cape?variant=40416266715341  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 5:57:13 PM UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, 
>>> Rainy season is almost over in the Bay Area, but I'm going to be try and 
>>> be more prepared next year.  I am looking at ponchos, and I have decided 
>>> that the PEOPLE'S PONCHO is the one I'm going to buy.  But, I'd love to 
>>> hear/see what everybody else is rocking for their rainy day full coverage 
>>> (including front basket and bag) rain gear.  I know there are going to be 
>>> varied responses here, but I'm hoping we can focus on PONCHOS
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>> Alex
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 2023 March 1 Bikes for sale thread: Craigslist etc.

[Luke Hendrickson]

Killed me to see that, but his Bomba is so 🔥 that it makes sense to move 
this one along. I only wish that I were in the market… A Hunq has been a 
dream of mine, second only to an Atlantis. 

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:20:19 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Saw on Instagram that John Prolly from the Radavist is selling his 
> Hunq[image: 
> Screenshot_20230309-091723.png]
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:58:01 PM UTC-5 mitchel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 51cm Appaloosa Frameset
>> Los Angeles ,CA
>> $1,500
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/santa-monica-rivendell-appaloosa-51cm/7595081671.html
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Such a dreamy build…
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:23:03 PM UTC-8 Matthew P wrote:
>>>
 Starting with this Legolas in Portland that I've thought about buying 
 myself:


 https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7591649041.html

 Full build details are available here:

 https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d



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Re: [RBW] VELO ORANGE Website offering 30% off, site-wide ! ! !

[Richard Rose]

Hello Kim. Where are you mounting an extra water bottle on your Clem?Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2023, at 9:56 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
Now through March 13th, 2023 @ 11:59pm ET we’re offering 30% off, site-wide! Use the code SPRING30 when you checkout to get the deal. https://velo-orange.com/pages/spring30-flash-saleI ordered a pair of 
Hinged Water Bottle Cage Clamps
31.8mm / Silver for my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle to replace the two King Cage's Universal Support Bolt:https://kingcage.com/collections/all-products/products/universal-support-boltThese will give a better and more clean look for my water bottle cage. https://velo-orange.com/collections/accessories-and-hardware/products/hinged-water-bottle-cage-clamps?variant=35950514012310Kim HetzelYelm, WA. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Luke Hendrickson]

Slin – which poncho do you like best?

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 9:20:11 PM UTC-8 Slin wrote:

> I'm a huge fan of ponchos (with fenders) and riding in the rain in 
> general! I wear regular clothes riding a bike, and putting on rain pants 
> and jacket just felt like too much so I wouldn't put it on in drizzle and 
> I'd get wet anyway. The few times I did wear rain pants and jacket, I got 
> soaked from sweat. 
>
> As others have mentioned, a poncho is nice and breathable from the big 
> opening on the bottom so you can avoid waterproofing treatments that wear 
> out or expensive 'breathable' fabrics.
>
> And back to my other point, putting on a poncho takes less than 10 seconds 
> and when I get to my destination, I just slip it off!
>
> Yeah, it's been fun for me now that there's been some rain again here in 
> the Bay Area. I feel like Yehuda Moon.
>
> S
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 8:25:25 AM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I tried a poncho but didn't feel like I could adequately signal.  When 
>> it's cold, I prefer the jacket/pants.  When it's warm I like a jacket/rain 
>> skirt with shorts.  Next I'd like to cut the sleeves off a jacket and use a 
>> rain vest or short sleeve jacket so I won't heat up too much.  I'll go half 
>> sleeves then short sleeves then to a vest to see what works better.   
>>
>> p.s.  Newer jackets w/less PFAS seem to be less durable.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:09:46 PM UTC-5 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Ponchos are great!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1990.jpg]
>>>
>>> *With fenders.*
>>>
>>>

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