Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread Wayne Mosley
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Sir,
 I am both intrigued and curious  about the cost-effective  LLLT device
described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 
laser
pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from
light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks.


With regards
 Lew


BROOKS BRADLEY wrote:

 My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier
 post.  The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of
 dicefor the number five.  My email program shifted the dots.  
   My
 apologies.  Brooks Bradley.

 To all interested list members.
 Since I am, already,  at my computer to comment on  a
 post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which
 may be of some interest.
 The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came
 up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by
 persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise.  He constructed
 an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5)
 laser pointers in a very simple arrangement.
 The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor
 Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax.  The configuration is
 as follows:   (1)  the physical arrangement provides for the natural
 arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing
 configuration.  e.g._  _
  _
  _  _
 (2)   the operating switches (momentary, normally-open)
 require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated.  This is
 addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all
 of the four outside switches, simultaneously.
 (3)  the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down
 prior to arrranging the four outer units.  (4)  arrange the four outer
 units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly
 toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact
 with the restraining rubber band.   (5)  assemble the pointers in a
 manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each
 other.  This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams.  (6)
 using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them
 in the desired configuration.  (7)  next, apply the rubber band you have
 chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers.   Some
 of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both
 hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the
 outside pointers.   Since the four outside pointers will be in a
 divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire
 to mechanically stabilize it.  This may be done through using short
 lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak
 rubber band around the top of the assembly.
 Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the
 unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use.  The
 power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with
 the outer skin (at least this has been our experience),   We have
 employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single
 location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin
 reddening.
 We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for
 applications within its power range.  The chief advantage of the LLLT
 over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light
 beam.  We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving
 superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental
 populations.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley..
P.S.  Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S
 EYE/EYES  To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra
 fovea.plus other retinal damage.

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Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread FHLew
Sir,
 I am both intrigued and curious  about the cost-effective  LLLT device
described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 
laser
pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from
light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks.


With regards
 Lew


BROOKS BRADLEY wrote:

 My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier
 post.  The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of
 dicefor the number five.  My email program shifted the dots.  
   My
 apologies.  Brooks Bradley.

 To all interested list members.
 Since I am, already,  at my computer to comment on  a
 post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which
 may be of some interest.
 The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came
 up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by
 persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise.  He constructed
 an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5)
 laser pointers in a very simple arrangement.
 The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor
 Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax.  The configuration is
 as follows:   (1)  the physical arrangement provides for the natural
 arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing
 configuration.  e.g._  _
  _
  _  _
 (2)   the operating switches (momentary, normally-open)
 require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated.  This is
 addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all
 of the four outside switches, simultaneously.
 (3)  the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down
 prior to arrranging the four outer units.  (4)  arrange the four outer
 units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly
 toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact
 with the restraining rubber band.   (5)  assemble the pointers in a
 manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each
 other.  This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams.  (6)
 using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them
 in the desired configuration.  (7)  next, apply the rubber band you have
 chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers.   Some
 of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both
 hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the
 outside pointers.   Since the four outside pointers will be in a
 divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire
 to mechanically stabilize it.  This may be done through using short
 lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak
 rubber band around the top of the assembly.
 Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the
 unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use.  The
 power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with
 the outer skin (at least this has been our experience),   We have
 employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single
 location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin
 reddening.
 We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for
 applications within its power range.  The chief advantage of the LLLT
 over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light
 beam.  We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving
 superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental
 populations.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley..
P.S.  Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S
 EYE/EYES  To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra
 fovea.plus other retinal damage.

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Re: CS(OT) HUlda Clark On PBS

2000-05-23 Thread Devnull
uhh can you please decode those airdates for me please =]


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Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread Marsha Hallett



  I BELIEVE THEY WERE LASER DIODES.  YOU MAY CONTACT THE AUTHOR THROUGH
  THE SILVER LIST...  I SENT ALL INFORMATION TO DO FURTHER
  INVETIAGATIONS...  GOOD HUNTING.


  You don`t need to shout...



CSMild Rant

2000-05-23 Thread Black

Samantha, you sound just like me, and I could'nt have said it better.
The world is so full of brain dead, mindless sheep you wonder how they make
it through the day, much less survive to an age above 16.
These are the airheads that not only kill millions with drugs and
unnecessary surgery, ignore safe alternative methods of healing
andpreventing disease but are probably responsible for  putting the biggest
airhead of all in the whitehouse.  They all should be shipped to the funny
farm and let them destroy each other, but since that won't happen let's be
grateful for the time we have left before they  send us there.  In the
meantime don't try to teach the unteachable, they are happy in their
ignorance and are good at making us feel like we are way out there.  Who
needs the hassle?
Yours in health  happiness,
Nancy


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Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread Wayne Mosley
i am new to this list and I do need to shout as I CAN'T SEE ON MY 9 INCH
SCREEN SO I APOLOGIZE MY EYE SIGHT IS POOR BUT I MUST HAVE LARGE
PRINT... THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDNG... BTW THAT THAT POST WAS AN ERRONIOUS
ONE.  I POSTED IT ON THE LASER LIST AND RESPONDED WITHOUT CONFIRMING THA
IT WAS TO THAT LIST FRST WHICH IT WASN'T AND SO MY RESPONSE WAS
INAPPRPRIATE ANYWAS SINCE IT WAS NOT MY POST AS I FORWARDED IT ETC...
SORRY FOLKS...

laserthe...@listbot.com

IS THE EMAIL ADDRESS TO THE LASER LIST.  YOU CAN ASK THEM OR ME HOW TO
SUBSCRIBE THERE.

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Re: CSMild Rant

2000-05-23 Thread EPMOON5192
Great post Nancy and Samantha; If there were not people like you and those on 
the list it would be mighty lonesome here. Thanks. Betty FT. Lauderdale


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Re: CSMild Rant

2000-05-23 Thread d.linen
MIke,

You are a great list owner of a great list. If I haven't said it lately,
then I'd like to say how much I enjoy the opportunity to learn from all
the other great people here. 

Thanks 

Diane

M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Nancy wrote:
  are probably responsible for
  putting the biggest airhead of all in the whitehouse.
 
 Please do not venture into politics with argumentative comments like
 this on this list. Probably everything else you said was fine, but,
 to paraphrase, Clinton's an airhead and everybody who voted for him
 is an airhead, too goes too far! smile
 
 There are folks on the silver list of every possible political
 orientation, at least *some* of whom would be offended by this
 remark. We do *not* want to waste the time and energy of our
 group re-hashing personal politics, so restraint is required.
 
 And if you know me, you'll understand how *HARD* it is to have to say
 this!!! g
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike Devour
 silver list owner
 
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]
 
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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-23 Thread Scharbach
Cool!!!   Sounds great!!

Sparrow

Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve
the
growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The
destruction of
bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the
rise of
resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive
bacteria,
they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant
bacteria that may develop. 



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CScurrent limiting

2000-05-23 Thread Frank Gibson
i find that its necessary to throw myself to te mercy of you smarter and
more experienced  guys (or gals).  
a bit back i built my first generator, and recieved encouragement from a
couple of the group.  now, with my daily perusal of the list, i feel i
need to change it to make better CS.
i'm using a plug-in-the-wall type of adapter that says it has an output
of 12 volts, and 750 ma.  i've measured the output at 17.5 volts, and
have no clue as to the current.
my CS is turning golden within 1 1/2 to 2 hours.  i'm using 2 ten inch
lengths of 14 gauge .999, bent into loops.
i use distilled water, no starter salt or anything.
do you all have some wisdom for me?
should i leave my 
setup alone,or do some
current limiting,(if so, how?)
i'd be grateful and pleased if you'd take the time to let me share your
knowledge(s), on the list or at my e-mail.
   respectfully, Frank Gibson

http://community.webtv.net/FlyingFawcett/


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Re: CScurrent limiting

2000-05-23 Thread boberger
Hi Frank,

My protocol for making clear CS with a weak T.E. (that is the best) is to
use #14 Ag electrodes spaced 1/2 with 3-1/2 of wet length, and 26  vDC.  I
measure the current on every run. If you don't measure current you have no
idea as to what you are making. In about two hours my currents run 4 to 5
ma. and the ppm as measured with a spectrophotometer is 11 to 12 ppm. To
consistently make clear CS you MUST add constant stirring. I use a RAdio
shack 1-1/2V dc motor with  a 2 length of plastic insulation for a #14
copper house wire. I add about 3 ohms in series with the motor to slow it
down. Otherwise it stirs up a storm.

This protocol is for 14 oz of DW. in a 16 oz clear plastic SOLO cup ( a
grocery store item). It will even make clear CS using the demineralized
drinking water. The only problem with it is the very bright T.E.

If you need more help then post me direct.

Yellow CS generally says that you are brewing for too long of a time.

Ole Bob





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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-23 Thread rob gr
That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That 
is one Tough Bug!!!


Rob



From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: George Martin gmar...@dragonbyte.net, sIlver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:21:40 -0700

Cool!!!   Sounds great!!

Sparrow

Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve
the
growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The
destruction of
bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the
rise of
resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive
bacteria,
they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant
bacteria that may develop.



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CSA manager responds to the airline mechanic's message on chemical spraying

2000-05-23 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://www.carnicom.com/mgr1.htm

Marshall



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Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Dear F.H. Lew.
The device I described has nothing to do with LED's.  The 
comment
relating to LEDs was simply directed toward distinguishing one of the 
differences
between the effects of LLLTs and LED assemblies.  I apologize if my syntax was 
so
constructed as to mislead you.  I did not intend to suggest that LEDs generated 
a
coherent beam.
I will try to be more explicit in future postings.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

FHLew wrote:

 Sir,
  I am both intrigued and curious  about the cost-effective  LLLT 
 device
 described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 
 laser
 pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from
 light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks.

 With regards
  Lew

 BROOKS BRADLEY wrote:

  My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier
  post.  The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of
  dicefor the number five.  My email program shifted the dots.
  My
  apologies.  Brooks Bradley.
 
  To all interested list members.
  Since I am, already,  at my computer to comment on  a
  post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which
  may be of some interest.
  The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came
  up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by
  persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise.  He constructed
  an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5)
  laser pointers in a very simple arrangement.
  The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor
  Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax.  The configuration is
  as follows:   (1)  the physical arrangement provides for the natural
  arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing
  configuration.  e.g._  _
   _
   _  _
  (2)   the operating switches (momentary, normally-open)
  require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated.  This is
  addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all
  of the four outside switches, simultaneously.
  (3)  the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down
  prior to arrranging the four outer units.  (4)  arrange the four outer
  units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly
  toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact
  with the restraining rubber band.   (5)  assemble the pointers in a
  manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each
  other.  This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams.  (6)
  using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them
  in the desired configuration.  (7)  next, apply the rubber band you have
  chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers.   Some
  of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both
  hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the
  outside pointers.   Since the four outside pointers will be in a
  divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire
  to mechanically stabilize it.  This may be done through using short
  lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak
  rubber band around the top of the assembly.
  Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the
  unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use.  The
  power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with
  the outer skin (at least this has been our experience),   We have
  employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single
  location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin
  reddening.
  We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for
  applications within its power range.  The chief advantage of the LLLT
  over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light
  beam.  We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving
  superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental
  populations.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley..
 P.S.  Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S
  EYE/EYES  To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra
  fovea.plus other retinal damage.
 
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Re: CSMild Rant

2000-05-23 Thread M. G. Devour
Nancy wrote:
 are probably responsible for 
 putting the biggest airhead of all in the whitehouse. 

Please do not venture into politics with argumentative comments like 
this on this list. Probably everything else you said was fine, but, 
to paraphrase, Clinton's an airhead and everybody who voted for him 
is an airhead, too goes too far! smile

There are folks on the silver list of every possible political 
orientation, at least *some* of whom would be offended by this 
remark. We do *not* want to waste the time and energy of our 
group re-hashing personal politics, so restraint is required.

And if you know me, you'll understand how *HARD* it is to have to say 
this!!! g

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

2000-05-23 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Hello James,
My apologies for this tardy response, but you are
aware of my time-based pressures.  They are obscene for one of my years.  I
have chosen to answer you with a  copy to the list..as some others may have
an interest also.
First, let me clarify that we have conducted no
formal studies ourselves.  However, we have conducted several anecdotal-type
evaluations,,especially on horses.  The laser pointers we have used are 5
MW in power.  Our laboratory instruments are HeNe type, and are 10 mw and 25 mw
respectively.  We have several LED arrays.  Some are 13, some 25, and some 50
elements in size.
Do be advised, I AM NOT a pundit in matters relating to either
LEDT or LLLT.   This being the case, do understand I have no positionor
verifiable proof.that one methodology is superior to the other.  People
seem to become somewhat polarized on the merits of oneor the other, as
being superior.
Useful studies are not very numerous, but I will list several
we found of pertinence, both for comparing the effectivity of LEDs versus
LLLTs..and for the general information furnished:
1.  Gupta, et al.  Journal of Dermatological Treatment
(1997)  This study relates to the use of non-coherent light (LEDs) for
addressing damage on superficial structures (e.g. skin, epithelial tissues and
very shallow muscle tissue insults).  The results, using 660 nm incoherent
light, were very positive on slow-healing wounds.
2.   Several studies, of which I do not have access here at
home, have been conducted which seem to confirm that LLLT is markely superior
to LEDT for relieving chronic, deep-seated, pain through raising the ACTH and
endorphin levels-where LEDT gives little.or no response.
3.  Some researchers have reported positive results using a
combination of  LLLT  and LEDT.  e.g. Laser Therapy, 1998, Vol. 10, No.3.  For
pain and wound healing.
4.  LLLT arrays have demonstrated their superiority in
addressing severe, non-healing ulcers, among diabetics.  Journal  of British
Podiatric Medicine, 1991, Oct.., 186-189.
5.  Another study of possible consequence is:  Jilliane
James.  Primary Care.  Care Vol. 410.  1997;  pages 18-20.  Topic.  Use of
Laser Therapy on Non-healing Wounds.
6.  The most pronounced claim, to date, favoring LLLT over
LEDT seems to be that made by Tina Karu (1998:  The Science of Low-Power Laser
Therapy), wherein she states,  the coherence of light is of no importance in
low-power laser clinical effects and the primary difference between lasers
and LEDs is that the lasers coherent beam produces speckles of relatively
high power density which can cause local heating of inhomogeneous tissues.
I have a couple more general comments, before I end this
extended epistle.
The general view among our more knowledgeable staff is that LED arrays are very
effective for open wounds and large-area amorphous swellings (e.g. impact
trauma, near-surface hematomas).  Additionally, LEDs give measureable relief in
cases of tightened lean-muscle tissues.  These conditions prevail for large
domestic mammals (e.g. horses and cows), as well as human volunteers.  Although
large LED arrays (100 bulbs) will trigger  IR detectors on the opposite side
of the human hand.demonstrating considerable power of penetrationthey
do not seem to yield the degree of pain- relief or the rapid, beneficial,
deep-tissue and nerve response modifications-as do 10 mw, and greater, LLLT
devices.
I hope these observations are of value to you.
Sincerely, Brooks.
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hi Brooks,

 Thanks for another great homemade therapy device.

 Do you have handy references for the types of conditions and protocols with
 which this device has been demonstrated to be effective?

 -Original Message-
 From: BROOKS BRADLEY liat...@flash.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:48 PM
 Subject: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES

 My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier
 post.  The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of
 dicefor the number five.  My email program shifted the dots. My
 apologies.  Brooks Bradley.
 
 
 To all interested list members.
 Since I am, already,  at my computer to comment on  a
 post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which
 may be of some interest.
 The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came
 up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by
 persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise.  He constructed
 an effective Low 

CSOT: Single-Element Laser-Pointer Uses

2000-05-23 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
To all interested List Members.
I received an off-list inquiry asking about
possible uses of a single Laser Pointer.  There are some very useful
applications for a single, 5 mw pointer.  While all of our evidence is
anecdotal, it isnonetheless, interesting.  We have found, in an
experimental setting, that several, primarily minor, conditions respond
quite well to a single-unit protocol.
The most impressive results were achieved among
a small group of older Type II diabetics (both insulin and non-insulin
dependent) who were experiencing difficulty in getting small
cuts/lacerations (especially on the lower extremities) to initiate
proper graunlationthus remaining in a state of constant ulceration.
We had, previously, been able to successfully address these using
colloidal silver dressings;  but the initial granulations were slow to
manifest.  We discovered that the use of a single laser pointer greatly
accelerated the initial granulation process of these wounds.   The
protocol which seemed most satisfactory involved nothing more than
applying the pointer-beam about .5 to .75 above the wound, and slowly
moving the beam in a manner covering the entire length and width of the
woundfor period covering 5 to 10 minutes (3 times daily).  Wounds
larger than .5 X 1  required so much more time that it became
impractical to use a single element.  However, in those cases of wounds
.5 X .75 and smaller, the response was excellent...for the
exposure time  stated above.  Other conditions which responded well to a
single laser pointer were moles/warts.and some age spots.  An
interesting side-note is that, in most all cases involving associated,
localized, pain;  the laser-beam gave immediate, and pronounced, relief.

I hope this information is of some value to you.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  I almost forgot;  we achieved excellent success in
spot-treatment of  carpal tunnel syndrome.  The protocol involved
placing the pointer as close to the skin-surface as possible (even
touching the surface is fine) and maintaining the alignment for 5
minutesfor each distinct area of pain/discomfort.  We achieved
total remission, in some cases, within 2 to 3 days.  100 milligrams
(daily) of B-6 has shown to be an  excellent ancillary protocol for this
condition;  at least among our experimental/volunteer population.


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Re: CSOT: Single-Element Laser-Pointer Uses

2000-05-23 Thread Ivan Anderson
Thank you Brooks,

For those who wish to pursue Low Level Laser  and Light Emitting Diode
Therapy, you may be interested in a few links.

Our very own David Jeffers has designed a quite sophisticated LEDT
device, the design of which started out in the public domain (much like
the other designs he generously offers us), but I guess he has seen
error in his ways, and is now looking for distributors. Never the less
there are some very good links on the LED page. Keep in mind the
distinction between LEDS and Lasers, the discussion link is interesting
in this regard (hello Lew!).
http://www.cicbs.com/rife/led.html


It was this link that sparked my interest in light therapy, although the
light wand in use here is different to LED or Laser light.
http://www.arthritistrust.org/lymphati.htm

The Light Beam Generators as mentioned above can be found in the next
two links, the others are variations on the theme.

http://www.medicineelectric.com

http://www.arcturusstar.com/ProdSum.htm

http://www.jcau.com/energymedicine/ultra_photon_sound_beam_vii.htm

http://www.holistic-alt.com/ProdSum.htm

This is a good link that details the action of light on and in the
cells.

http://www.komvet.at/english/SNLaser/basics.htm

Enjoy
Ivan.


- Original Message -
From: BROOKS BRADLEY liat...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2000 14:46
Subject: CSOT: Single-Element Laser-Pointer Uses


 To all interested List Members.
 I received an off-list inquiry asking about
 possible uses of a single Laser Pointer.  There are some very useful
 applications for a single, 5 mw pointer.  While all of our evidence is
 anecdotal, it isnonetheless, interesting.  We have found, in an
 experimental setting, that several, primarily minor, conditions
respond
 quite well to a single-unit protocol.
 The most impressive results were achieved
among
 a small group of older Type II diabetics (both insulin and non-insulin
 dependent) who were experiencing difficulty in getting small
 cuts/lacerations (especially on the lower extremities) to initiate
 proper graunlationthus remaining in a state of constant
ulceration.
 We had, previously, been able to successfully address these using
 colloidal silver dressings;  but the initial granulations were slow to
 manifest.  We discovered that the use of a single laser pointer
greatly
 accelerated the initial granulation process of these wounds.   The
 protocol which seemed most satisfactory involved nothing more than
 applying the pointer-beam about .5 to .75 above the wound, and
slowly
 moving the beam in a manner covering the entire length and width of
the
 woundfor period covering 5 to 10 minutes (3 times daily).  Wounds
 larger than .5 X 1  required so much more time that it became
 impractical to use a single element.  However, in those cases of
wounds
 .5 X .75 and smaller, the response was excellent...for the
 exposure time  stated above.  Other conditions which responded well to
a
 single laser pointer were moles/warts.and some age spots.  An
 interesting side-note is that, in most all cases involving associated,
 localized, pain;  the laser-beam gave immediate, and pronounced,
relief.

 I hope this information is of some value to you.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
 p.s.  I almost forgot;  we achieved excellent success in
 spot-treatment of  carpal tunnel syndrome.  The protocol involved
 placing the pointer as close to the skin-surface as possible (even
 touching the surface is fine) and maintaining the alignment for 5
 minutesfor each distinct area of pain/discomfort.  We achieved
 total remission, in some cases, within 2 to 3 days.  100 milligrams
 (daily) of B-6 has shown to be an  excellent ancillary protocol for
this
 condition;  at least among our experimental/volunteer population.


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Re: CSMild Rant

2000-05-23 Thread Ron
airhead is way too kind. The asshole is a CRIMINAL.

If you want a long healthy free life, use c/s and vote
conservative(smile)

Ron

 There are folks on the silver list of every possible political
 orientation, at least *some* of whom would be offended by this
 remark. We do *not* want to waste the time and energy of our
 group re-hashing personal politics, so restraint is required.

 And if you know me, you'll understand how *HARD* it is to have to say
 this!!! g

 Be well,

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Re: CSWhat is best constant current?

2000-05-23 Thread Wayne Mosley
I WAS TOLD BY AN ACUPUNCTURIST FRIEND THAT THE FDA SAYS 400 MICROGRAMS
IS A DAILY DOSE.  IS THAT TRUE?  

SORRY FOR THE CAPS...MY TV IS ONLY 9 INCHES SMALL

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