RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS

[bob Larson]

...ok, i'll try to fine it...

not it, but interesting:

"Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
sol"

still looking...here's another:

"Thought I'd throw this in. I was involved in ayurvedic medicine through the
TM movement years ago. Depak Chopra was their main spokesperson at the time,
and was taught that medical knowledge through the TM movement. In a talk I
attended, he described the traditional way of dissolving cataracts, which is
dead cells in the lens??? He said in India, the therapy consists of using
your own saliva, mixed with clean water and swished into the eye with an eye
cup. The enzymes a person's saliva will gradually dissolve cataracts. Cheap.
Cheap as spit. Couldn't be simpler. I know I'll try it if I ever have the
need. Here's mud, I mean spit in yer eye..."

i give up for now... have to go out a bit, will look again later.
 




From: Ron Minnick [mailto:shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:03 PM
To: CS site
Subject: RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS


I would definitely would like to see and read all about it, if you
would, please .  thanks   Doreen
 

> From: bobli...@att.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:22:45 -0800
> 
> ...i dunno.
> silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the
body aside
> from directly killing microbes. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS
> > 
> > Interesting. Is there any theory as to why that helped? Maybe
there 
> > was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
> > 
> > Marshall
> > 
> > On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
> > >
> > > ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
> > even been true.
> > > haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
> > >
> > > the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
> > for cataract
> > > surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
> > eyes every hour
> > > or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks. when 
> > they went for the
> > > surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
> > > i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad
enough.
> > >
> > > bobL
> > >
> 
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RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS

[Ron Minnick]

I would definitely would like to see and read all about it, if you would, 
please .  thanks   Doreen
 > From: bobli...@att.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:22:45 -0800
> 
> ...i dunno.
> silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the body aside
> from directly killing microbes. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS
> > 
> > Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
> > was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
> > 
> > Marshall
> > 
> > On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
> > >
> > > ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
> > even been true.
> > > haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
> > >
> > > the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
> > for cataract
> > > surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
> > eyes every hour
> > > or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when 
> > they went for the
> > > surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
> > > i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.
> > >
> > > bobL
> > >
> 
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RE: CS>Juice fasts...

[bob Larson]

...that statement is still wrong.
vegetable only diets will leave one lacking for sure, but veges are for
nourishment and not only for detox.   best to define "nourishment" as used
here i guess?

> -Original Message-
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:06 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Juice fasts...
> 
> Sorry bob, but it makes perfect sense to me, having embarked 
> on various
> vegetable only diets - and feeling like rubbish.  dee
> 
> 
> > From: bob Larson 
> > Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:59:25 -0800
> > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Subject: RE: CS>Juice fasts...
> > Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:56:44 -0800
> > 
> >  
> > ...wrong wrong wrong...
> > 
> > "I read very recently, that the whole reason for eating vegetables
> > is to detox the liver and system.  It is not to nourish, "
> > 
> >


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RE: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS

[bob Larson]

...i dunno.
silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the body aside
from directly killing microbes. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS
> 
> Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
> was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
> >
> > ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
> even been true.
> > haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
> >
> > the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
> for cataract
> > surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
> eyes every hour
> > or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when 
> they went for the
> > surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
> > i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.
> >
> > bobL
> >


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Re: CS>Hello and question ABOUT CATARACTS

[Brickeyk]

I fought cataracts for years and flaxseed oil (linseed oil) actually helped 
 but the cataracts came back. I finally had cataract surgery, 0 cost with  
Medicare, but they missed pieces of the cataracts and one covered the  
replacement lens. DR said I would have to live with it. I bought 6 bottles of  
can-C and the cataract piece moved off the new lens after two days. I still 
used  all 6 bottles. That was 6 years ago. This year my DR said the other eye  
also has a piece of the old cataract they missed, but it doesn't effect my  
vision. I didn't know it was there. If it moves to cover the lens I will  
try Can-C again.
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 2/7/2013 11:36:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

They  work! They are called Can C Eye Drops, and here’s the  info:
>

Re: CS>Hello and question ABOUT CATARACTS

[sol]

Nenah Sylver wrote:


They work! They are called Can C Eye Drops, and here’s the info:

Didn't work for me, sadly. It is possible I didn't use them consistently 
enough long enough, but I started out faithfully following instructions, 
then as time went on with no improvement, I got sloppy with using them. 
I also tried several other things mentioned on this list--CS with MSM, 
CS with DMSO, coconut oil IN the eyes, flaxseed oil IN the eyes, 
straight DMSO (only did one eye with that, it was WAY too painful!). I 
believe I successfully slowed the progression of the cataracts somewhat, 
but they never cleared. At one point I thought there was significant 
improvement, but that turned out to be a misinterpretation on my part of 
what the optometrist told me. I forget how long I kept up my efforts, 
but eventually I went ahead with cataract surgery.
My post surgery vision isn't perfect, I still have to wear glasses, esp 
for close vision. If my eyes weren't so dry, and if I didn't have so 
many floaters from vitreous detachments in both eyes, it would, I'm sure 
be much better. But I can use binoculars much better now, can see so 
much better for watching birds which is my main hobby. And colors! I had 
a rust brown sweater for years, when I got it out to wear post surgery, 
imagine my surprise to find out it was actually a burgundy red!

sol


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Re: CS>Juice fasts... yin and yang

[Maple Springs Farm]

Dan
what was your understanding/interpretation of yin and yang?
I musta missed it.

On 07.02.2013 12:49, Dan Nave wrote:

I'm not an expert of course, but much of what he says about yin and
yang does not seem to be consistent with my understanding of yin and
yang.  It seems to be difficult to make generalities about yin and
yang that don't appear contradictory at some point.

Dan

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Maple Springs Farm
 wrote:

Hi Mike
Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to
frequently.
Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing
Hope this helps:
http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm


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FROM: M.G. Devour 
TO: silver-list@eskimo.com
SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM
SUBJECT: Re: CS>Juice fasts...

 PT wrote:


I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average
person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding
extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything.



I'd like to explore the option of an "extremist" approach, at least 
for
a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful 
to
understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are 
discussing it.


Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please?

Thanks!

Be well,

Mike D.



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Re: CS>Juice fasts... yin and yang

[Dan Nave]

I'm not an expert of course, but much of what he says about yin and
yang does not seem to be consistent with my understanding of yin and
yang.  It seems to be difficult to make generalities about yin and
yang that don't appear contradictory at some point.

Dan

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Maple Springs Farm
 wrote:
> Hi Mike
> Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to
> frequently.
> Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing
> Hope this helps:
> http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm
>
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>> FROM: M.G. Devour 
>> TO: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM
>> SUBJECT: Re: CS>Juice fasts...
>>
>>  PT wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average
>>> person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding
>>> extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to explore the option of an "extremist" approach, at least for
>> a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful to
>> understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are discussing it.
>>
>> Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Be well,
>>
>> Mike D.


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Re: CS>Hello and question ABOUT CATARACTS

[Sandee George]

Thanks Marshall as per usual any information you give is greatly appreciated - 
I have made note of this for my database - thanks  Have and enjoy a 
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Re: CS>Hello and question..

[PT Ferrance]

Also, I think, because of the drawing & detoxing effects of castor oil.
PT





From: Marshall 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 7, 2013 10:06:41 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Hello and question..

That makes sense, any liquid oil will tend to dissolve the Crisco stuff.

Marshall

On 2/6/2013 8:02 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: 
I've read of people using castor oil to help relieve cataracts.  Some even put 
a 
drop in each eye upon retiring.
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: Rachel Hawkridge 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, February 6, 2013 6:58:47 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Hello and question..
>
>
>I'm with Gene.  I think MSM (internally) might be great for cataract 
>prevention, 
>but once you have them . . . not so much.
>
>Cataract surgery is 30 min nap in outpatient surgical center.  Cake.  I did 
>mine 
>at 43.
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Gene Wolfe  wrote:
>
>Hi, Melody.
>>
>>I have tried CS and all the other things that I have read about for cataracts 
>>and finally decided that the only answer was surgery. I am 80, almost 81, and 
>>had surgery at 77. It was simple, and Medicare paid for most of it. You are 
>>not 
>>quite at Medicare age, but you may want to wait. Both my wife and I have had 
>>the 
>>surgery, and we both really like the results. 
>>
>>
>>The only recommendation is to find a good doctor that does lots of cataract 
>>surgerys so they know what they are doing.  
>>
>>
>>
>>On 2/6/2013 4:04 PM, Melody Watts wrote:
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Gene Wolfe
>>Dallas, TX
>>
>> Hi All, 
>>>My name is Melody ,I'm 60 yrs old and live in So Calif. I was refered over 
>>>to 
>>>this list by Rose from the yahoogroup "blacksalveandpetswithcancer".
>>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>
>Peace . . .
>
>Rachel Hawkridge
>in a NE Seattle 'burb
>
>
>


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Re: CS>CS vs. CATARACTS

[Marshall]

Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?


Marshall

On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:


...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've even been true.
haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:

the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled for cataract
surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her eyes every hour
or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when they went for the
surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.

bobL



From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Hello and question ABOUT CATARACTS



Melody wrote: But what I need to know now is :** if anyone has used
CS as an eye drop to treat beginning cataract development.** I got DX with
them last week ( both eye) and of course the Dr.wants to "fix" then for me.


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Re: CS>Hello and question..

[Marshall]

That makes sense, any liquid oil will tend to dissolve the Crisco stuff.

Marshall

On 2/6/2013 8:02 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
I've read of people using castor oil to help relieve cataracts.  Some 
even put a drop in each eye upon retiring.

PT


*From:* Rachel Hawkridge 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wed, February 6, 2013 6:58:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Hello and question..

I'm with Gene.  I think MSM (internally) might be great for cataract 
prevention, but once you have them . . . not so much.


Cataract surgery is 30 min nap in outpatient surgical center.  Cake.  
I did mine at 43.



On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Gene Wolfe > wrote:


Hi, Melody.

I have tried CS and all the other things that I have read about
for cataracts and finally decided that the only answer was
surgery. I am 80, almost 81, and had surgery at 77. It was simple,
and Medicare paid for most of it. You are not quite at Medicare
age, but you may want to wait. Both my wife and I have had the
surgery, and we both really like the results.

The only recommendation is to find a good doctor that does lots of
cataract surgerys so they know what they are doing.

On 2/6/2013 4:04 PM, Melody Watts wrote:

Good luck,
Gene Wolfe
Dallas, TX


 Hi All,
My name is Melody ,I'm 60 yrs old and live in So Calif. I was
refered over to this list by Rose from the yahoogroup
"blacksalveandpetswithcancer".







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Re: CS>Hello and question ABOUT CATARACTS

[Marshall]

Not with CS, but I have heard several people having success with flax 
seed oil.  Apparently there are several types of cataracts,  the 
"Crisco" kind and the scarring kind.  Maybe others as well.  The 
"Crisco" kind comes from eating hydrogenated oils, such as vegetable 
shorting and margarine.  It is deposits of hydrogenated oil in the 
lens.  The other is from scarring, ususally from uV radiation, that is 
excessive exposure to the sun or sunning beds, but other possible causes 
are chemical burns to the eyes.  The flax seed oil apparently only works 
for the "Crisco" kind.


Marshall

On 2/6/2013 7:57 PM, Nenah Sylver wrote:


Melody wrote: But what I need to know now is :** if anyone has used CS 
as an eye drop to treat beginning cataract development.** I got DX 
with them last week ( both eye) and of course the Dr.wants to "fix" 
then for me.


===

Melody,

I got some eye drops said to help with cataracts and many other eye 
problems. I had the beginning of cataracts---I could see areas of a 
printed page "graying out" on me---and bought 6 boxes, which is how 
many the company suggests would be needed for a course of treatment.


They work! They are called Can C Eye Drops, and here's the info:

Wise Choice Medicine

*US Office: +1.800.861.4936*

*US Fax: +1.800.861.4936 *

*E-mail:*i...@wisechoicemedicine.com 
*Web Site:*http://www.wisechoicemedicine.com/

As for spraying colloidal silver into the eyes, I do it all the time 
when my eyes are tired or there's an infection or when I happen to 
scratch the cornea (which isn't to often). It's very safe and 
effective. I made up a mixture of colloidal silver and Willard Water 
(just a few drops) and put it in a spray bottle. You can get the 
Willard Water here: 
http://www.willardswater.com/information.php?information_num=4&gclid=CNqcz63-orUCFYGpPAodEB8AOA 
 



Make SURE to get the WW here and not elsewhere, because elsewhere they 
dilute it and it's no longer real WW---which is why it's cheaper 
elsewhere, but you won't get the results you need.


I am unable to say whether or not a WW/CS mix would help with 
cataracts or not. But I DO know that the Can C Eye Drops DO help, and 
rather rapidly. So they are worth getting. I would do it immediately.


All the best to you,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, the NEW //Rife Handbook// (2011)

//Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy//(2004)

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RE: CS>Juice fasts...

[Bob Banever]

Dee,

   Vegetables are real food used for nourishment as well as cleansing.  I
don't know where you read they are only for detox, but it is wrong.  Veggies
contain minerals, vitamins, and enzymes as well as some protein.  They are a
necessary part of everyone's diet.  In fact the bulk of your diet should be
based on plants, not animals.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Juice fasts...

Sorry bob, but it makes perfect sense to me, having embarked on various
vegetable only diets - and feeling like rubbish.  dee


> From: bob Larson 
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:59:25 -0800
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: RE: CS>Juice fasts...
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:56:44 -0800
> 
>  
> ...wrong wrong wrong...
> 
> "I read very recently, that the whole reason for eating vegetables
> is to detox the liver and system.  It is not to nourish, "
> 
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Re: CS>Juice fasts... yin and yang

[Maple Springs Farm]

Hi Mike
Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to 
frequently.

Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing
Hope this helps:
http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm


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FROM: M.G. Devour 
TO: silver-list@eskimo.com
SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM
SUBJECT: Re: CS>Juice fasts...

 PT wrote:

I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average
person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding
extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything.


I'd like to explore the option of an "extremist" approach, at least 
for

a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful to
understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are discussing 
it.


Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please?

Thanks!

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Juice fasts...

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Sorry bob, but it makes perfect sense to me, having embarked on various
vegetable only diets - and feeling like rubbish.  dee


> From: bob Larson 
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:59:25 -0800
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: RE: CS>Juice fasts...
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:56:44 -0800
> 
>  
> ...wrong wrong wrong...
> 
> "I read very recently, that the whole reason for eating vegetables
> is to detox the liver and system.  It is not to nourish, "
> 
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