[SLUG] printing from mail

2005-02-09 Thread jeff . allison

Hi all I've an application (Some cisco
fax hardware) that on receipts of a fax sends it to a email address. What
I need to do is find some way of printing those automatic to different
printers depended on the incoming address.

Does any one have a starting point for
doing this I've had a google but have yet to come up with anything useful

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread O Plameras
Ben de Luca wrote:
I have tried the 'tv_grab_au' from one list but did not work for me.
Are you able to post the code for this script ?

the python one from the list works.
OK, this explains why my channel list does not work consistently.
I am using the perl version.
This is something new  as far as I'm concerned, this python version.
The weather web pages work but I get 'blank and black' screen when
I switch to viewing TV channels. This is due to incorrect channels
information in my MySQL MythTV database.

There is NO 'tv_grab_au'  from the de-facto http://www.xmltv.org
server. I suspect because there is none that works consistently.

There is no legal source here
Yep, that's what I gathered from the list.

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[SLUG] Re: Mandrake Installation and HDD Troubles

2005-02-09 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hiya Brian,
This may not be the answer, but I had a similar install problem the 
first time with Mandrake. In my instance, the CD drive slowed and 
stopped/stalled (I know you didn't mention this) The CD-ROM drive 
"seemed" okay, but when I replaced the CD-ROM drive for a newer one, the 
install was fine.

Thought I'm mention this just in case...
Additionally, I read once (somewhere), a suggestion to use a Live CD to 
see if the HDD can be access, in the event this is the problem.

Regards,
   Patrick

Brian wrote:
Dear Sluggers,
A friend has just emailed me.  Can anybody help with this one please?
Brian

So far I've spent 8-10 hours, merely a long day, mucking about with a 
recalcitrant Mandrake re-install, and suddenly it came good, marvellous. 
Except at about item no. 99 of 100, it suddenly caved in and refused to 
co-operate further. Drat. Try to start again, and some of my further 
mucking about only made the hard disk worse, and it's a problem I can't 
find remarked on the Net and have never heard of before.

Problem is that the hard drive won't boot from its installation CD as 
the hard drive says it's a failure to run from an ATAPI CDROM. Finally 
the drive protested by getting even worse, and it just fails to boot 
just after the BIOs readings finish, it leaves a capital "L" followed by 
a long series of 99 99 99 and no key will do anything at all if asks, the 
machine just hangs. Never heard of any of this. Gonna go on the Net now 
and have another look.

So this is a case of a merely mucked up hard disk, no data loss (can you 
imagine the relief thereof!) - it's just a hard disk that won't take an 
install of anything, anymore, not even if I try to DOS-ify it and put a 
WIN95 CD in the machine. Nuffin. Just 99 99 99 --
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Re: [SLUG] Visual Studio builds on Linux ?

2005-02-09 Thread James Gregory
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 14:27 +1100, Jason Rennie wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> We have a problem at work. We have developed some code under M$ Visual
> Studio 2003 (bleech) and we need to get it to compile under linux (and
> solaris and a couple of others).

So this is just "normal" C, with no dependencies on the Windows API? Or
is this code that requires a substantial chunk of Windows to run?

When you say you need it to compile on Linux, is that to imply that you
need it to *run* on Linux?

If it's just compiling, then I heard a rumour that the "express" version
(the compiler, without the IDE) of VS worked on Wine.

If it's a case of turning your Windows app into a Linux app, winebuild
might be the place to start. It generates a Makefile that uses wineg++
et al to build and link your program against winelib. It may or may not
be able to do what you want, but it's worth a look. It's part of the
standard wine tree.

HTH,

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Visual Studio builds on Linux ?

2005-02-09 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:27:00 +1100
Jason Rennie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We have a problem at work. We have developed some code under M$ Visual
> Studio 2003 (bleech) and we need to get it to compile under linux (and
> solaris and a couple of others).
> 
> Now we could just write make files and so on, but I was wondering.
> Does anybody know of a tool that would allow us to use (or extract the
> information from) the Visual Studio solution and get that to then
> build on linux.
> 
> Or am I doomed to have to write it all by hand ?

You are doomed. I think MSVC can export a Makefile, but its
a microsoft nmake specific Makefile that no other make will
touch.

I have a similar problem making sure libsndfile and 
libsamplerate compile on win32. The easiest solution for me
is to use autoconf/automake/libtool which works ofor all major
unices, MacOSX and Win32 using MinGW or Cygwin. This also
allows me to completely avoid the whole MSVC catastrophe.


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Re: [SLUG] pax

2005-02-09 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Julio" == Julio Cesar Ody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Julio> but fact is, I was taking a look now at the configure options
Julio> for paxutils, and there is an option "--enable-pax". I thought
Julio> that would solve the issue, but whenever I try to use this
Julio> option, I get the following error messages on make:

Julio> ../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0xa1): In function
Julio> `make_path': /root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:384: undefined
Julio> reference to `errno'

Ah.  You have a recent glibc.  Add 
 #include 
to makepath.c

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[SLUG] Visual Studio builds on Linux ?

2005-02-09 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all,

We have a problem at work. We have developed some code under M$ Visual
Studio 2003 (bleech) and we need to get it to compile under linux (and
solaris and a couple of others).

Now we could just write make files and so on, but I was wondering.
Does anybody know of a tool that would allow us to use (or extract the
information from) the Visual Studio solution and get that to then
build on linux.

Or am I doomed to have to write it all by hand ?

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[SLUG] Re:Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux

2005-02-09 Thread Bill
Hi Shaun
Check out http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/DVICO-Linux/ for drivers for 
HDTV DVB-T cards here in Oz.

You need to know/learn how to compile a kernel before anything else.
I have a DVico Fusion HDTV DVB-T card and haven;t got past the above step yet.
If you manage, pleae post the info.
Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] pax

2005-02-09 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
Thanks Matt,

but fact is, I was taking a look now at the configure options for
paxutils, and there is an option "--enable-pax". I thought that would
solve the issue, but whenever I try to use this option, I get the
following error messages on make:


gcc  -g -O2  -o pax  pax.o cdf.o copyin.o copyout.o copypass.o defer.o
fmtcpio.o fmttar.o format.o getfile.o global.o rename.o util.o
rtapelib.o ../lib/libpu.a
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0xa1): In function `make_path':
/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:384: undefined reference to `errno'
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0xc4):/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:379:
undefined reference to `errno'
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0x299):/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:283:
undefined reference to `errno'
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0x2f1):/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:262:
undefined reference to `errno'
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0x489):/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:347:
undefined reference to `errno'
../lib/libpu.a(makepath.o)(.text+0x4fa):/root/paxutils-2.4h/lib/makepath.c:332:
more undefined references to `errno' follow
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [pax] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/paxutils-2.4h/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/paxutils-2.4h'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

This only happens when I compile paxutils using the forementioned
option. Any help is appreciated. Cheers.



On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:52:05 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +1100, Julio Cesar Ody wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Does anybody know a download link for pax (the archiving system,
> > source code or slackware package)? I found paxutils on GNU project
> > page, but it doesn't contain the software itself.
> 
> Really?  That's odd.
> 
> You may want to look at the latest tarutils, that
> project is merging with paxutils.
> 
> Matt
> 


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Re: [SLUG] Prblem with bash and rsync

2005-02-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 12:14:48PM +1100, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> I dont quite understand why (maybe I am to much thinking of perls
> and phps eval stuff)  especially if I read bash's man page which
> does not mention anything about what you suggested.

True, it is pretty obscure.  Bash thinks of everything in tokens, and
only evaluates things once.  Usually a token is separated by a space,
but putting quotes (") around the string changes that rule.  So take
the example below

AVARIABLE="this is"
VAR="$AVARIABLE \"a string\""

bash goes through and evaluates VAR *once* according to it's rules
which, in this case leaves VAR looking like (tokens separated by a |)

|this|is|"a|string"|

you need to "re-evaluate" this to convert it to

|this|is|a string|

> Further if I consider
> 
>   --exclude \"\"Temporary Internet Files\"\"
> 
> which after the shell got it should(?) be
> 
>   --exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\"

No, bash will convert that to ""Temporary Internet Files"" which is
also wrong.

> and further if I pass a construct to other
> util they are still "kept together", eg:
> 
>   $MKDIR \"this is a spacy name\"

yes, because \"this is a spacy name\" will be evaulated by bash and
hence form a single token.

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Re: [SLUG] Mandrake Installation and HDD Troubles

2005-02-09 Thread Phil Scarratt
Brian Robson wrote:
Dear Sluggers,
A friend has just emailed me.  Can anybody help with this one please?
Brian

So far I've spent 8-10 hours, merely a long day, mucking about with a 
recalcitrant Mandrake re-install, and suddenly it came good, marvellous. 
Except at about item no. 99 of 100, it suddenly caved in and refused to 
co-operate further. Drat. Try to start again, and some of my further 
mucking about only made the hard disk worse, and it's a problem I can't 
find remarked on the Net and have never heard of before.

Problem is that the hard drive won't boot from its installation CD as 
the hard drive says it's a failure to run from an ATAPI CDROM. Finally 
the drive protested by getting even worse, and it just fails to boot 
just after the BIOs readings finish, it leaves a capital "L" followed by 
a long series of 99 99 99 and no key will do anything at all if asks, the 
machine just hangs. Never heard of any of this. Gonna go on the Net now 
and have another look.

So this is a case of a merely mucked up hard disk, no data loss (can you 
imagine the relief thereof!) - it's just a hard disk that won't take an 
install of anything, anymore, not even if I try to DOS-ify it and put a 
WIN95 CD in the machine. Nuffin. Just 99 99 99 --
==

sounds like either the ide controller is screwed or the HDD is stuffed. 
Most likely the latter. With prices these days, throw it out and get a 
new hdd.

Fil
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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Ben de Luca
I have tried the 'tv_grab_au' from one list but did not work for me.
Are you able to post the code for this script ?
the python one from the list works.

There is NO 'tv_grab_au'  from the de-facto http://www.xmltv.org
server. I suspect because there is none that works consistently.
There is no legal source here
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[SLUG] Sun Regional Delegate Program for linux.conf.au 2005

2005-02-09 Thread Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux
I'm forwarding this as it may be of relevance to many SLUG people or 
people that know SLUG people ;-)

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:24:17 +1100
From: LCA 2005 Sun Regional Delegate Program <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Announce] Sun Regional Delegate Program for linux.conf.au 2005


Hello all.

As with previous LCAs, Sun Microsystems has kindly offered to sponsor
the Regional Delegates Program (RDP) for LCA 2005. For the LCA 2005 RDP,
there will be ten winners: one from each of the Australian states and
territories; a national winner; and a winner representing New Zealand.

Each of these winners will recieve:
  - transport to LCA 2005
  - accomodation
  - professional registration at the conference (including all the
normal things which come with that)
  - special recognition as a RDP winner

Additionally, LCA provides an important mechanism for developers to
network with each other, and the RDP winners will have excellent
opportunities to further their open source projects.

This is the first year that New Zealand has been included in the
competition, which has prompted some changes in how the RDP is being run
this year. The timetable for the RDP is as follows:

  - entrants should draft a 100 word or less description of how the open
source community would benefit from their presence at LCA 2005

  - these should be emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], including an
indication of where the entrant lives by midnight, Friday the 18th of
February 2005 [1].

  - the winners will be announced by the end of February and travel
will be arranged.

  - RDP winners attend the conference and have a great time

If a winner has already registered for the conference, then a refund of
that registration will be provided.

We look forward to many interesting entries,
The LCA 2005 team

1: The information about where you live will be used solely for judging
the competition, and will then be destroyed.




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[SLUG] Mandrake Installation and HDD Troubles

2005-02-09 Thread Brian Robson
Dear Sluggers,

A friend has just emailed me.  Can anybody help with this one please?

Brian


So far I've spent 8-10 hours, merely a long day, mucking about with a 
recalcitrant Mandrake re-install, and suddenly it came good, marvellous. 
Except at about item no. 99 of 100, it suddenly caved in and refused to 
co-operate further. Drat. Try to start again, and some of my further 
mucking about only made the hard disk worse, and it's a problem I can't 
find remarked on the Net and have never heard of before.

Problem is that the hard drive won't boot from its installation CD as 
the hard drive says it's a failure to run from an ATAPI CDROM. Finally 
the drive protested by getting even worse, and it just fails to boot 
just after the BIOs readings finish, it leaves a capital "L" followed by 
a long series of 99 99 99 and no key will do anything at all if asks, the 
machine just hangs. Never heard of any of this. Gonna go on the Net now 
and have another look.

So this is a case of a merely mucked up hard disk, no data loss (can you 
imagine the relief thereof!) - it's just a hard disk that won't take an 
install of anything, anymore, not even if I try to DOS-ify it and put a 
WIN95 CD in the machine. Nuffin. Just 99 99 99 --
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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread O Plameras
Kevin Saenz wrote:
Read the ff. info so very carefully before expending time and money
on this intended project.
http://www.schlesinger.us/nf20031230.htm
   

It appears that this Schlesinger is a bit of a dolt. a couple of weeks
to built a mythtv box, Yeah right! It took me less than a day. This
guy seems to be a complete noobie to linux in the first instance.  I
got mythtv running on Mandrake10. and 10.1 I used the CVS as opposed
to the tarballs, at the moment I am considering Gentoo as the next
step. I can see a couple of weeks in the gentoo part, that is
understandable. He started off with SuSE, who in their right mind
would use SuSE for multimedia, they don't ship codecs because it
breaches their license.
 

Are you able to provide us with your 'HOWTO Mythtv' ?
I know you've said there are a number of success stories on MythTV
posted on this list, but I have not seen a 'HOWTO Mythtv' that can
be replicated to  authenticate these claims. It is one thing to claim
something but another to get authentications for these claims.
I'd like to replicate it to see if it works for me without too much of a
hassle, as you seem to have done,  even if involves costs of
additional hardware and software.
I have tried the 'tv_grab_au' from one list but did not work for me.
Are you able to post the code for this script ?
There is NO 'tv_grab_au'  from the de-facto http://www.xmltv.org
server. I suspect because there is none that works consistently.
I am not an apologist for anyone. But just because it took him a couple 
of weeks
to build a mythtv box would not justify slandering his name. Especially, 
he is not
around to respond.  He has detailed his procedure to show good faith and 
professional
honesty, now you owe it to him and to this lists to detail yours after 
slandering a
person's name.

I found his resume here:
http://www.schlesinger.us/aboutlee.htm

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Re: [SLUG] Prblem with bash and rsync

2005-02-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:59:53AM +1100, Ian Wienand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:40:45AM +1100, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > COMMAND="$RSYNC -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
> > --exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\" /$d/ $TARGET"
> > if [ $DEBUG == 1 ]; then $ECHO $COMMAND; fi
> > $COMMAND
> 
> Try using eval around this, e.g.
> 
> eval $COMMAND
> 
> You need bash to re-evaluate those quotes so it understands it should
> be one argument.


 THANK YOU ! ***


I dont quite understand why (maybe I am to much thinking
of perls and phps eval stuff)  especially if I 
read bash's man page which does not mention anything
about what you suggested.


Further if I consider

  --exclude \"\"Temporary Internet Files\"\"

which after the shell got it should(?) be

  --exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\"

and further if I pass a construct to other
util they are still "kept together", eg:

  $MKDIR \"this is a spacy name\"


But thank you, its working ...
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Re: [SLUG] Incremental Backup Script

2005-02-09 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:47:59AM +1100, Lyle Chapman 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Can anyone point me to a good backup script or program that does
incremental backups?
I have a particluar directory I want to backup to an external firewire
drive every night.
http://bandcamp.tv/quickbackup
Might be of use, depending on your needs
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Re: [SLUG] WRT54g Speedboost ?

2005-02-09 Thread Jeff Waugh


> (I'm sort of thinking about getting for own use a WLAN;)
> 
> looking at Linksys range, I see they now have WRT54G as well as WRT54G
> with 'Speedboost' how relevant is the Speedboost thing once a 3rd party
> firmware is applied to the device ?

More flash and more RAM. Good for hacking. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Kevin Saenz
> Read the ff. info so very carefully before expending time and money
> on this intended project.
> 
> http://www.schlesinger.us/nf20031230.htm

It appears that this Schlesinger is a bit of a dolt. a couple of weeks
to built a mythtv box, Yeah right! It took me less than a day. This
guy seems to be a complete noobie to linux in the first instance.  I
got mythtv running on Mandrake10. and 10.1 I used the CVS as opposed
to the tarballs, at the moment I am considering Gentoo as the next
step. I can see a couple of weeks in the gentoo part, that is
understandable. He started off with SuSE, who in their right mind
would use SuSE for multimedia, they don't ship codecs because it
breaches their license.

> 
> The endeavour is even more hazardous here in Australia. There is
> no working 'tv_grab_au' from the official xmltv software up-to-now
> AFAIK.  You will discover this when you get to 'Zap2it' a tv
> program listing site that does not provide you correctly with the list of
> service providers here in Australia. By this time it will be too late as
> you probably have bought the hardware and spent tremendous hours
> following the HOWTO (http://www.mythtv.info;

I beg to differ there there is a tv_grab_au and it works fine. I would
recommend Linux users to use mythtv, it is in my case (wifeproof), and
(kid proof I have a 4 and 3 yr old) who can manage the interface to
play their favourite movies and channels.

> http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php). I have Fedora Core 2. ReHat
> is the primary platform supported in this HOWTO. Also it is required
> you have KDE instead  of GNOME, which is excellent because I
> am into Kolab Servers (http://kolab.org) for many customers. Incidentally,
> I am gradually shifting all workstations and servers to KDE.
> 
> To get a sense of the issues involve, check the postings here:
> 
> http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=52&hl=#entry22169
> 
This is a once off configuration requirement. You don't have to
memorise the hz setting of every channel.

> But in the end, if learning specifically about linux kernel, device drivers,
> compilation, installations, mysql, and lots of fun things about linux is of
> paramount benefit to you, then, it is worth the time and money to plunge
> into this project. But I for one would not do it for getting the
> pleasure of
> having a TIVO-like service.

It seems like the most attractive part of tivo will be removed pretty
soon, as it is illegal to cut commercials in the US and under the FTA
it will come here.

> 
> I have FusionHDTV DV3-T that I installed on my TEST server with
> heaps of CPU power and memory and heaps of storage (over a terabyte)
> that works off-and-on requiring lots of maintenance work. I've given up
> on this since Dec, 2004 and hope to get back to it when time permits.
> 
> If you simply wish to get the pleasure of digital tv recording, editing,
> and controlling, then get commercial TIVO, at least for now.

You can't knock it until you have tried it. Mythtv works beautifully
if you know the capabilities and limitations of the distro you have
chosen then Mythtv will work for you.

So far you have given only 1 lame example of failure.  I know of a lot
more success stories and most of them are in the slug list.
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[SLUG] WRT54g Speedboost ?

2005-02-09 Thread Voytek Eymont
(I'm sort of thinking about getting for own use a WLAN;)

looking at Linksys range, I see they now have WRT54G as well as WRT54G
with 'Speedboost'
how relevant is the Speedboost thing once a 3rd party firmware is applied
to the device ?

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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Ben de Luca
On 10/02/2005, at 11:04 AM, O Plameras wrote:
Shaun Butler wrote:
Hi SLUGgers
Has anyone had much luck installing and using digital TV tuner card 
under Linx? My VCR died the other day and this might be the 
opporunity I need to move to recording TV shows onto my computer 
directly

Shaun

Hi Shaun,
Read the ff. info so very carefully before expending time and money
on this intended project.
http://www.schlesinger.us/nf20031230.htm
The endeavour is even more hazardous here in Australia. There is
no working 'tv_grab_au' from the official xmltv software up-to-now
AFAIK.
Nope but if you look on the mythtv user lists you will find a a python, 
and perl based grabbers that will function in sydney. It might not be 
strictly legal but thats between you and the web site its ripped from.


You will discover this when you get to 'Zap2it' a tv
program listing site that does not provide you correctly with the list 
of
service providers here in Australia.
zap2it is for the USA

...
To get a sense of the issues involve, check the postings here:
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=52&hl=#entry22169
But in the end, if learning specifically about linux kernel, device 
drivers,
compilation, installations, mysql, and lots of fun things about linux 
is of
paramount benefit to you, then, it is worth the time and money to 
plunge
into this project. But I for one would not do it for getting the 
pleasure of
having a TIVO-like service.

Mythtv can steal lots of your time, there is a new release 0.17 that 
will be available soon with considerable updates to its DVB support.


If you simply wish to get the pleasure of digital tv recording, 
editing,
and controlling, then get commercial TIVO, at least for now.
TIVO doesn't have an official guide data either, but you can just use 
cron or at to record programs if you dont want the who PVR package.

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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Marek Wawrzyczny
My boss is trying to get this exact service working under FreeBSD (Linux 
cannot be more difficult) with varying degree of success. He was talking to 
the authors of the TV-tuner card driver directly, they have been of 
tremendous help.

I do know he has managed to run Myth??? (I think) under X-server, got the 
TV-tuner card to run, change channels, etc. None of this was exceptionally 
smooth, but was not difficult either. I know the TIVO-like software he runs 
can get the TV listings for free-to-air channels off the net, as well as 
weather reports, news, etc. He was still struggling to get the IR to work, 
improve TV reception and the compression quality, etc...

I can try and get more information if necessary. As the previous poster has 
said, be careful of what you buy, do your research before hand. See if you 
can get a good returns policy, because driver availability/quality on Linux 
can be a very tricky proposition. I would suggest coming up with a list of 
cards and checking the forums to see how helpful the authors of drivers for 
these cards are, because if you run into issues you will definedly want to 
have a card which has a very vibrant community following.

Cheers,

Marek Wawrzyczny

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:04, O Plameras wrote:
> Shaun Butler wrote:
> > Hi SLUGgers
> >
> > Has anyone had much luck installing and using digital TV tuner card
> > under Linx? My VCR died the other day and this might be the opporunity
> > I need to move to recording TV shows onto my computer directly
> >
> > Shaun
>
> Hi Shaun,
>
> Read the ff. info so very carefully before expending time and money
> on this intended project.
>
> http://www.schlesinger.us/nf20031230.htm
>
> The endeavour is even more hazardous here in Australia. There is
> no working 'tv_grab_au' from the official xmltv software up-to-now
> AFAIK.  You will discover this when you get to 'Zap2it' a tv
> program listing site that does not provide you correctly with the list of
> service providers here in Australia. By this time it will be too late as
> you probably have bought the hardware and spent tremendous hours
> following the HOWTO (http://www.mythtv.info;
> http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php). I have Fedora Core 2. ReHat
> is the primary platform supported in this HOWTO. Also it is required
> you have KDE instead  of GNOME, which is excellent because I
> am into Kolab Servers (http://kolab.org) for many customers. Incidentally,
> I am gradually shifting all workstations and servers to KDE.
>
> To get a sense of the issues involve, check the postings here:
>
> http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=52&hl=#entry22169
>
> But in the end, if learning specifically about linux kernel, device
> drivers, compilation, installations, mysql, and lots of fun things about
> linux is of paramount benefit to you, then, it is worth the time and money
> to plunge into this project. But I for one would not do it for getting the
> pleasure of
> having a TIVO-like service.
>
> I have FusionHDTV DV3-T that I installed on my TEST server with
> heaps of CPU power and memory and heaps of storage (over a terabyte)
> that works off-and-on requiring lots of maintenance work. I've given up
> on this since Dec, 2004 and hope to get back to it when time permits.
>
> If you simply wish to get the pleasure of digital tv recording, editing,
> and controlling, then get commercial TIVO, at least for now.
Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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Re: [SLUG] Prblem with bash and rsync

2005-02-09 Thread Kevin Saenz
have you tried --exclude 'Temporary Internet Files' ?
I don't think escape characters will work the way you want in a bash script.
the other way to exclude it send it to an exclude file which will cut
down the command line to something a little more managable.


> 
> all,
> 
> I have a weird problem with a bash script and rsync (its a snapshot style 
> backup script).
> 
> Somewhere in the script I create the command:
> 
> ...
> ...
> COMMAND="$RSYNC -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
> --exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\" /$d/ $TARGET"
> if [ $DEBUG == 1 ]; then $ECHO $COMMAND; fi
> $COMMAND
> ...
> ...
> 
> Now if I execute the command (which is displayed by the debug statement) using
> copy and paste into a XTERM it works.
> If I take out the --exclude "Temporary Internet Files" it works.
> 
> But if I run the command through the script I get:
> 
> Rsyncing /home/rsa/ /root/test/home/rsa/hourly.0
> /usr/bin/rsync -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
> --exclude "Temporary Internet Files" /home/rsa/ /root/test/home/rsa/hourly.0
> link_stat "/usr/local/backup/Internet" failed: No such file or directory
> IO error encountered - skipping file deletion
> rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(633)
> Error rsyncing home/rsa
> 
> Now I have tried:
> 
>  --exclude \"\"Temporary Internet Files\"\"
>  --exclude Temporary\ Internet\ Files
>  --exclude \"Temporary\ Internet\ Files\"
> 
> and many other ways.
> 
> Any ideas anyone
> 
> jobst
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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread O Plameras
Shaun Butler wrote:
Hi SLUGgers
Has anyone had much luck installing and using digital TV tuner card 
under Linx? My VCR died the other day and this might be the opporunity 
I need to move to recording TV shows onto my computer directly

Shaun

Hi Shaun,
Read the ff. info so very carefully before expending time and money
on this intended project.
http://www.schlesinger.us/nf20031230.htm
The endeavour is even more hazardous here in Australia. There is
no working 'tv_grab_au' from the official xmltv software up-to-now
AFAIK.  You will discover this when you get to 'Zap2it' a tv
program listing site that does not provide you correctly with the list of
service providers here in Australia. By this time it will be too late as
you probably have bought the hardware and spent tremendous hours
following the HOWTO (http://www.mythtv.info;
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php). I have Fedora Core 2. ReHat
is the primary platform supported in this HOWTO. Also it is required
you have KDE instead  of GNOME, which is excellent because I
am into Kolab Servers (http://kolab.org) for many customers. Incidentally,
I am gradually shifting all workstations and servers to KDE.
To get a sense of the issues involve, check the postings here:
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=52&hl=#entry22169
But in the end, if learning specifically about linux kernel, device drivers,
compilation, installations, mysql, and lots of fun things about linux is of
paramount benefit to you, then, it is worth the time and money to plunge
into this project. But I for one would not do it for getting the 
pleasure of
having a TIVO-like service.

I have FusionHDTV DV3-T that I installed on my TEST server with
heaps of CPU power and memory and heaps of storage (over a terabyte)
that works off-and-on requiring lots of maintenance work. I've given up
on this since Dec, 2004 and hope to get back to it when time permits.
If you simply wish to get the pleasure of digital tv recording, editing,
and controlling, then get commercial TIVO, at least for now.




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Re: [SLUG] Prblem with bash and rsync

2005-02-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:40:45AM +1100, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> COMMAND="$RSYNC -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
> --exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\" /$d/ $TARGET"
> if [ $DEBUG == 1 ]; then $ECHO $COMMAND; fi
> $COMMAND

Try using eval around this, e.g.

eval $COMMAND

You need bash to re-evaluate those quotes so it understands it should
be one argument.

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Re: [SLUG] Incremental Backup Script

2005-02-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:47:59AM +1100, Lyle Chapman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a good backup script or program that does 
> incremental backups?
> 
> I have a particluar directory I want to backup to an external firewire 
> drive every night.

goto 

 http://rsync.samba.org

and see the "examples" and "resources".
You find enoguh there to get started.


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[SLUG] Prblem with bash and rsync

2005-02-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

all,

I have a weird problem with a bash script and rsync (its a snapshot style 
backup script).

Somewhere in the script I create the command:

...
...
COMMAND="$RSYNC -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
--exclude \"Temporary Internet Files\" /$d/ $TARGET"
if [ $DEBUG == 1 ]; then $ECHO $COMMAND; fi
$COMMAND
...
...



Now if I execute the command (which is displayed by the debug statement) using
copy and paste into a XTERM it works. 
If I take out the --exclude "Temporary Internet Files" it works.


But if I run the command through the script I get:

Rsyncing /home/rsa/ /root/test/home/rsa/hourly.0
/usr/bin/rsync -rlptgoD --delete --delete-excluded --exclude .snapshot 
--exclude "Temporary Internet Files" /home/rsa/ /root/test/home/rsa/hourly.0
link_stat "/usr/local/backup/Internet" failed: No such file or directory
IO error encountered - skipping file deletion
rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(633)
Error rsyncing home/rsa



Now I have tried:

 --exclude \"\"Temporary Internet Files\"\"
 --exclude Temporary\ Internet\ Files
 --exclude \"Temporary\ Internet\ Files\"

and many other ways.




Any ideas anyone


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Re: [SLUG] diffstat, Ctrl-R, pushd/popd

2005-02-09 Thread James Gregory
Hey, this is a fun game!

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 22:33 +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> At Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:42:31 +1100, Ben Leslie wrote:
> > 1/ Ctrl-R history searching
> > 
> > When using the shell you pretty quickly work out that pressing up will 
> > search
> > backwards through you history, however it tooks me ages to find out that  
> > you
> > could search backs through the history by typing Ctrl-R and a search string.
> 
> One of my favourite is M-.  (thats alt or maybe windows key and
> full-stop)

I've put this:

bind "\C-b":vi-bWord
bind "\C-f":vi-fWord

in my .bashrc to let me use ctrl-f/b to move forward and backwards
words. It was recently pointed out to me though that you can actually do
this with alt-f/b without any .bashrc modification at all.

Also, this:

alias screen='screen -e^\`\`'

makes the 'screen key' ctrl-~, which means I don't go crazy every time I
try to go to the start of a line with ctrl-a in a screen session.

Keep this stuff coming. It makes my life easier!

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[SLUG] cdc_acm wart warthog

2005-02-09 Thread James
Hi SLUG,

has anyone been able to get a cdc_acm modem working in Warty.
The Ubuntu forums don't look promising on this topic
I am just running the stock kernel from the Install CD and wondering
if anyone has any success on a more recent kernel

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Re: [SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Has anyone had much luck installing and using digital TV tuner card under
> Linx? My VCR died the other day and this might be the opporunity I need to
> move to recording TV shows onto my computer directly

Yes, it is a bit murky in terms of documentation, but once it's going (and
configured with channel information), it's very nice. HDTV is pretty crazy.
There are good models available at low prices now, check the Linux DVB site
and Google to make sure you get one that works well with Linux. :-)

- Jeff

[1] http://www.linuxtv.org/dvb/

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[SLUG] Digital TV Tuner Cards On Linux?

2005-02-09 Thread Shaun Butler
Hi SLUGgers
Has anyone had much luck installing and using digital TV tuner card 
under Linx? My VCR died the other day and this might be the opporunity I 
need to move to recording TV shows onto my computer directly

Shaun
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Re: [SLUG] ASX website

2005-02-09 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 00:46 +1100, Indelible wrote:
> On the ASX website (www.asx.com.au) they have a menu made up of round 
> icons at the top of the page. However, this menu works with neither 
> firefox nor mozilla even though javascript is enabled. The menuicons 
> 'highlight'  on mouseover but on clicking them nothing happens. In the 
> statusbar of the browser it says "javascript:void(0)".
> I've seen this in several other places as well and was always wondering 
> if there is some setting I've got to correct or what.

If you are clicking with the right mouse button to open on a new tab,
don't.  If you simply click it may open a new window.  This happens on
news.com.au when you click on photo links, like an emmy award slideshow.

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[SLUG] ASX website

2005-02-09 Thread Indelible
On the ASX website (www.asx.com.au) they have a menu made up of round 
icons at the top of the page. However, this menu works with neither 
firefox nor mozilla even though javascript is enabled. The menuicons 
'highlight'  on mouseover but on clicking them nothing happens. In the 
statusbar of the browser it says "javascript:void(0)".
I've seen this in several other places as well and was always wondering 
if there is some setting I've got to correct or what.
Anybody?
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Re: [SLUG] diffstat, Ctrl-R, pushd/popd

2005-02-09 Thread Ben de Luca
With bash:-
My typing is pretty poor, and I make a lot of typos
The substitution feature is some thing I use really frequently
so I type
:>: scream   (oops)
>: ^am^en
screen   (yay)
On 09/02/2005, at 11:03 PM, Gottfried Szing wrote:
1/ Ctrl-R history searching
When using the shell you pretty quickly work out that pressing up 
will
search backwards through you history, however it tooks me ages to 
find
out that you could search backs through the history by typing Ctrl-R
and a search string.
One of my favourite is M-.  (thats alt or maybe windows key and
full-stop)
That will cycle through the last word on the last commands.
for those who are using the bash a nice list of shortcuts:
http://hajek.stat.ubc.ca/~harry/local/bash.html
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Re: [SLUG] diffstat, Ctrl-R, pushd/popd

2005-02-09 Thread Gottfried Szing
>> 1/ Ctrl-R history searching
>>
>> When using the shell you pretty quickly work out that pressing up will
>> search backwards through you history, however it tooks me ages to find
>> out that you could search backs through the history by typing Ctrl-R
>> and a search string.
>
> One of my favourite is M-.  (thats alt or maybe windows key and
> full-stop)
>
> That will cycle through the last word on the last commands.

for those who are using the bash a nice list of shortcuts:

http://hajek.stat.ubc.ca/~harry/local/bash.html

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Re: [SLUG] diffstat, Ctrl-R, pushd/popd

2005-02-09 Thread Angus Lees
At Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:42:31 +1100, Ben Leslie wrote:
> 1/ Ctrl-R history searching
> 
> When using the shell you pretty quickly work out that pressing up will search
> backwards through you history, however it tooks me ages to find out that  you
> could search backs through the history by typing Ctrl-R and a search string.

One of my favourite is M-.  (thats alt or maybe windows key and
full-stop)

That will cycle through the last word on the last commands.

(Of course zsh has all sorts of exciting keys, but I won't turn this
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Re: [SLUG] pax

2005-02-09 Thread mlh
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 05:54:30PM +1100, Julio Cesar Ody wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Does anybody know a download link for pax (the archiving system,
> source code or slackware package)? I found paxutils on GNU project
> page, but it doesn't contain the software itself.

Really?  That's odd.

You may want to look at the latest tarutils, that
project is merging with paxutils.

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Re: [SLUG] Priner compatability

2005-02-09 Thread Rob Sharp
Hi

Which model of Lexmark do you have? Which distro of Linux are you
running? It's possible that your distro is configured properly and
thats why you're having problems...

As for compatible laser printers, I have an HP Laserjet and that works
just fine. IIRC HP open-sourced their drivers so have pretty good
support.

You may want to check out: http://www.linuxprinting.org/ to see what
printers you are interested in and their level of support. I'd check
out your Lexmark there too...

Rob.


On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:39:13 +1100, Russell Hudson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found your details on a web search of Linux.  I am hoping you can help
> me with this query - I've just had Linux installed on my home computer
> and am looking for a compatible printer.  I have a Lexmark printer
> currently installed but it does not work well with Linux.
> 
> Can you advise on a make of printer that is compatible with the Linux
> operating system, or even a particular model of mono laser printer,
> hopefully for less than $350?
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can give.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Priner compatability

2005-02-09 Thread Menno Schaaf
Have a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html for some
suggested printers. I've never had a problem with my HP printers.


On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:39:13 +1100, Russell Hudson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found your details on a web search of Linux.  I am hoping you can help
> me with this query - I've just had Linux installed on my home computer
> and am looking for a compatible printer.  I have a Lexmark printer
> currently installed but it does not work well with Linux.
> 
> Can you advise on a make of printer that is compatible with the Linux
> operating system, or even a particular model of mono laser printer,
> hopefully for less than $350?
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can give.
> 
> Russell Hudson

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Re: [SLUG] Priner compatability

2005-02-09 Thread David Kempe
Russell Hudson wrote:
Can you advise on a make of printer that is compatible with the Linux
operating system, or even a particular model of mono laser printer,
hopefully for less than $350?
Hi Russell,
You can find a database of compatible printers from www.linuxprinting.org.
I would tend to recommend the HP laserjets, I am pretty sure the 1015 
works with linux.
OK, I checked that myself and it only works partially due to some 
firmware bug. bugger. so maybe you are stuck with a kyocera fs1010.
they work ok as printers and will work fine in linux.

http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kyocera-FS-1010
tho that would be $475 worth of printer. maybe with some digging and 
cross referencing to computer vendor sites you can do better...

cups would be the way to go.
dave
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[SLUG] Converting adressbook.db to sxc

2005-02-09 Thread Richard Neal




hai folks

Ive been handed a challenge to turn the contacts address database in Evolution into a OpenOffice.org spreadsheet. The only things Im finding are filter scripts, for converting the addressbook.db file Evolution uses into text files for Thunderbird.

Apparently you can export outlooks address/contacts to MS-Excel very easily.

I remember there was some work being done to make Evolution and OOo work together and I was just wondering if anything came of it.




Regards
Richard Neal


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[SLUG] Priner compatability

2005-02-09 Thread Russell Hudson
I found your details on a web search of Linux.  I am hoping you can help
me with this query - I've just had Linux installed on my home computer
and am looking for a compatible printer.  I have a Lexmark printer
currently installed but it does not work well with Linux.  

Can you advise on a make of printer that is compatible with the Linux
operating system, or even a particular model of mono laser printer,
hopefully for less than $350?

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Russell Hudson

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Re: [SLUG] support for open source

2005-02-09 Thread O Plameras
Rob Sharp wrote:
"Building a Kernel is a requirement for Securing Servers." - Oscar
 Plameras
   

Oooh! Cheeky sig :-) 

 

James Gregory brilliantly characterized this with
"..., I don't leave a crow-bar lying next to my car when I park it."

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