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[RCSE] Re: DSP issues
I've had problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly ultimately causing crashes on the slope; same with the Polk Seeker 6 synthesized RX (two receivers, two out of control gliders that crashed.) Everyone seems to be rushing to DSP, while I'm lamenting Hitec's changing the Super Slim to DSP and the loss of the bulletproof 555. Fortunately JR (Sport) is starting to make small negative shift receivers (but a 7 channel would be nice) they're as reliable as can be. Apparently ABC W is quite different than DSP. The results sure are different. Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringMon, 5 Jun 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7755 In this issue: Re: Why turn off the IPD filter. -- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:58:37 -0500 From: David Register [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Why turn off the IPD filter. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't know if I'm the only one with this experience but both Rxs that I've used with DSP and other front end signal processing have failed miserably in my discus planes. These are the Sombra 7 and the FMA M5V2. I had (still have) very good response from my standard M5s (no longer available) but get lock-outs and swamping with the V2 at contests. Same with the Sombra, even after the temperature problem had been addressed. They are both retired now. Not limited to low and slow and coming back. I have several metal roof buildings at the field where I fly and both these Rxs run into problem within several hundred feet of these structures. My Futaba's, Hitec E6's and old M5's go through these regions without any problems but both of the other units tend to go crazy, lock out and crash. I suspect that the bounce from the metal roof presents a stronger signal than the direct path RF and the slight time offset confuses the filtering circuitry. This is probably an excellent technology but may not be fine-tuned yet for some applications? - Dave R -- End of Soaring V1 #7755 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] A defense of training beginners via slope
Someone pointed out that slope foamies were a 'weird' choice for teaching beginners, and while I'll admit that I momentarily forgot that RCSE is 95% about thermal flying, a fine and noble pursuit in itself, I think that giving beginners their first flights at a slope has some benefits. First and foremost, the lift is always 'on.' While you can glide for awhile after launch at a thermal site if no lift is found, lift is abundant on a slope. Another benefit is that the glider can be flown close to the pilot, and even hovered into the wind. It isn't even necessary to fly the glider toward the beginner pilot, so they can learn the habit of moving the sticks opposite its apparent movement after they get used to flying normally. It isn't typical to spend much time flying toward yourself at the slope anyhow. Flights also tend to last longer at the slope, so a lot of practice can be packed into one session. Obviously all kinds of gliders can be flown at the slope, depending on wind conditions. Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Beginner Sailplane recommendation
How about something from californiasailplanes.com Their Eraser 60 performs very well and is easy to build. With more effort, their Redback 60" sailplane performs great and is very sleek for a foamie. Finally their U2 is a fast performer, though requires more wind than the Redback or Eraser 60. Who says foam doesn't perform? If you'd like something scale that still flies very well, check out leadingedgegliders.com which has gliders in a range from 48" to 72", and I can attest that they fly very well in a wide range of wind speeds. You can even have them expertly shape the fuselage for a small additional charge. I would recommend an EPP foam glider like these over Graupner's easily broken 'Elapor' foam gliders. Learning to fly is a lot more fun when your mistakes don't end the day's flying or require frequent field repairs. Besides, these planes will fly much better than the Easy Glider. Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringSat, 27 May 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7705 In this issue: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations -- Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have assembled and flown both Easy Star and Easy Glider (non-motorized version) and recommend the Easy Star as a first plane to learn on. It glides very well and is much easier to handle and transport on the ground. As was mentioned by Ed Anderson, Easy Glider does not penetrate well unless it is ballasted and a hefty nose weight added. I put 2 inch long steel rod pieces in the spar tube and another couple of ounces in the nose to make it penetrate on the slope. For Easy Star, a beginner is likely to corkscrew the plane unwittingly. I helped a friend recover from one and the wing broke at the end of the spar. A length of fiberglass tape from the wing root to over the curved wingtip edge solved this weakness. I also like to dive the Easy Star full throttle on a brushless motor and found the horizontal stab lose authority in recovering from steep dives, resulting in my Easy Star taking a dunk in the Han River of South Korea on more than 1 occasion. This too was solved by adding a length of fiberglass tape on the bottom surface of the horizontal stab and the elevator. One more modification for a beginner Easy Star is to fix the wing to the fuse. I found the wing roots get loose after few insertions, removals and tumbles. Of course, having a minivan big enough to carry the fully assembled Easy Star is helpful too. I get fine directional control with the stock rudder - just have to be patient and wait for the plane to listen to your directional control input or anticipate the necessary change in direction by a few seconds :) Hee-Choon Sam Lee Seoul, Korea Member of RCCAFE, AMA 817622 Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get more flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1" wider since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to fly with one. gv -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:23 PM To: RCSE Yahoo Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this kind of plane, I'm at a loss. I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXKHS7P=7 Any ideas appreciated. .. Jim Laurel Co-founder Twango Inc. mob 425.985.4849 ofc 425.883.1638 http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- End of Soaring V1 #7705 *** RCSE-List facilities provided
[RCSE] Re: Mini Nyx
John, I've emailed you at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you can't access that email tonight, please write me back at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jeff Thompson -- Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:33:54 -0500 From: John Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: FS Mini NYX sloper Message-ID: For Sale - Mini NYX 58 sloper. Yellow/Blue ready to fly with JR servos, = less receiver. Living in Illinois the slopes are too far away to enjoy = this plane. Only flown twice and in excellent shape. Go to www.f3x.com = to see the specs and info on this model. Asking $400 + shipping. Thanks, John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7546
One problem with using an air conditioner compressor for a vacuum pump
is that it would run hot, since air conditioner compressors are cooled
by the cold refrigerant that is pulled into the crankcase compressor
pump. It's also oiled by an ambient oil mist in the refrigerant vapor,
so I don't think it would last long, even if it was hooked up to a
vacuum switch that would shut it off when it was not needed to run.
Case in point: A couple of weeks ago I had to replace a compressor for
a new Ductless-Split air conditioner (those little rectangular Japanese
A/C's like Samsung, Mitsubishi, etc.) Someone had cut the refrigerant
lines in order to steal maybe $1 of copper, and the compressor continued
to run without being cooled oiled. In short order the compressor
burnt out and fouled with very smelly acid. IMO that's what would
happen with your window-unit vacuum pump.
A vacuum pump system isn't very expensive--I'd go with the right stuff.
I see used ones on eBay all the time. Every once in awhile Ed Berris of
skykingrcproducts.com sells some good systems, so you might check with
Ed through his website to see if he has any on hand he'd like to sell.
From what I've seen, he knows his vacuum systems well gives an
accurate assessment of the condition of his goods. (He's also a good guy.)
Jeff Thompson
Pipefitter--Local 539, Minneapolis :-)
Soaring wrote:
SoaringFri, 28 Apr 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7546
In this issue:
Compressor motor for vacuum bag system
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[RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay
Awhile ago someone was looking for a light winch for their HLG--one from the U.K. is up for auction on eBay, item # 6047025236. Currently going for $22.64 w/ 5 days to go. They'll ship to the U.S. Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7349
Paul, Thanks for the info on quality issues with the H9 incidence meter. I'll check up on it. If it's more than an occasional problem it is a shame H9 would continue producing it without fixing the problem. Jeff -- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:20:44 -0800 From: Paul Naton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Incedence Meters Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beware the cheap digital angle meter. The Hanger 9 unit has some problems - mainly erratic readings and low repeatability, which is what you need. There are some threads on RC Groups about these problems. However, the Aero Perfect device may not be on the market much longer. The small company who makes it has had some big increases in part costs lately thus the higher price. This unit was designed for the high end Pattern/3-D market initially but I saw potential for the glider world and got a unit to use in the DVD. As with any product, its marketing, marketing, marketing, and the Aero Perfect guys are engineers, and not promoters. Enough said! They were not selling enough units make money. I gave them some marketing advice and I think they want to try it out before they end production. If you bug them with e-mails, you might be able to get them to build you one, at a price, but this thing is mil spec and will last a lifetime. Sure got my planes digitally accurate! [EMAIL PROTECTED] The angle measuring unit is the expensive part, and I hope some sort of device can come on the market with the accuracy and repeatability of the aero perfect. Love the concept and the unit. Now if the price point can come down for the masses! Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7341 Comments Wanted, Performance Tuning...
I finished watching the Performance Tuning video (PT) last night and really liked it. It was well-organized, covered its ground thoroughly is definitely a keeper. I fly slope, and have not taken the time to do 75% of what was covered in PT, and see it doesn't have to take all that much effort or time to completely tune up your glider if you know what you're doing. Now I know. (Note to Ed Berris: This would make a great class for the MRCSS club!) I looked at the AeroPerfect electronic incidence meter shown in PT, but apparently they've gone up $50 since the video was shot (or maybe /because?)/ to $200. Hangar 9 makes a digital incidence meter accurate to 1/10 deg. that can be used much like the AeroPerfect for only $60. It's called the Anglepro. Guess which one I'll be getting? (The Great Planes laser meter is accurate to 1/4 deg., and is less flexible than the Anglepro.) I'd like to add some suggestions for George Voss' upcoming video regarding keeping people interested; all of which relate to what I saw in the PT video. Performance Tuning was divided into short chapters. I think this is useful not only for reviewing the video, but also for keeping everything from melding together into a big mental lump if you watch it straight through. I also liked how in PT, after they went through everything in the shop, they went outside and showed by repeated example how what they talked about inside related to what's happening in the air. A lot of videos would just insert some diagrams or animation during the lesson--I thought this was clearer. Big kudos to Paul Naton and team for an excellent project. I can't wait to see his upcoming video about advanced programming of computer radios! Jeff T. Soaring wrote: - Original Message - From: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RCSE (RCSE)' soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] Comments wanted I'm sure most of us have seen how to videos on RC soaring and a plethora of other subjects. The most common response I hear is that the person showing us how to do stuff is boring. I usually overlook that fact when I'm watching because I'm most interested in the material being shown, not the personality showing it. My question is this: How can RC How To video personalities make the video more interesting? My wife an I have come up with a couple of ideas; having trivia questions, showing one-page comics like the dummy books have, telling humorous jokes or short stories and several other things. My concern with each of them is that when a person is watching the video for the 10th time, the jokes and such get 'old. Please send me your opinions direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or feel free to post them to RCSE. gv No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 3/17/2006 -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:38:05 -0800 From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Repairing torn Kevlar skin hinge Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't recall if it was on this or another forum, but a thread was started on the question in the subject line. Some ideas were presented, but none none really grabbed my attention and I then had no such repair to make. Yesterday, I found a skin hinge in a Genie Pro wing torn about 1/3 of the way in from the root end of an aileron. I could have put clear tape on, but considered that tacky. I also could not see gluing some sort of V hinge inside between the surfaces as being a great solution. An easy and very satisfactory solution came to mind. Yesterday evening, I put regular paper masking tape on the outside and, inside, applied a thin bead of silicone along the ripped area. Today I have a strong repair without any adverse cosmetic implications. The technique is detailed in File 9 of the Genie web pages at http://genie.rchomepage.com/. It's not yet in those web pages, but I've refined making and installing the individual Kevlar easy hinges presented at the beginning of File 9. However, I can e-mail a PDF file that also has the silicone hinging in it. File size is 98 KB. Just request Excerpt from new File 9. -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:12:05 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: I served in the Army and the new Pike Giant Joiners Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---1142896325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am I ever glad that I didn't know about the new Pike Joiners while I served in the Army, it would have made barracks life truly unbearable! So here I was soaring around Orlando with the 3 degree joiners in the Giant thinking its wa nice, but last week Rick
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7319 Polo Field(s)
I see Gordy got stung by all those arguments about the size of a polo field vs. a football field, so I'd like to weigh in on this topic. I used to fly with a power club that shared a polo field with the horsies. Oh, wait--actually it was polo FIELDS. See, you often find more than one polo field on the same plot of land, though you don't often see three football fields together. These guys had three polo fields plus a sizable margin on all four sides. There were A, B and C teams they often played at the same time. The plot of land was at least as large as three football fields, when the margins around the fields were included. I'm guessing Gordy found the same situation where he flew. One football field isn't that large an area to hold a thermal meet, but I can attest that a gaggle of polo fields is all you'll need for anything other than cross country flying. Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Redundancy
One other little $20 item that has saved quite a few gliders in our club is the SkyKing Lost Model Locater. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html Not only does it tell you how many volts you have (under load) with 4 or 5 cell RX packs and, of course, loudly screech a variety of sounds so you can find your lost glider in the worst of terrain, but when your battery level drops too low it beeps constantly to warn you of that dangerous condition. I'll admit the in-flight low battery alarm is of more use to slope HLG fliers, who keep their gliders in closer than thermal or task flyers, but it can be very handy if your plane goes down regardless of how you fly. It costs way less than a Picolario too, so you can put one in every plane you fly, whether you use FM or PCM. It's saved my molded gliders a few times when my RX pack emptied faster than I thought it would, besides the countless times it has helped me find a downed glider. I've tried several lost model locaters, but this is the only one I've seen that does more than just beep...beep...beep, and is much easier to hear from afar than the rest I've seen. Of course I also like the idea of redundant batteries switches. Surely Mouser or some other electronics supplier has better switches than the ones we're using though, right? Has anyone found an especially high-quality switch that they like which is compatible with RC systems? Jeff Thompson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Help needed badly
Tom at Composite Specialties sells both JR radios and F3F planes; he offers 9303 setups for the planes he sells which I'm sure would only need to be adjusted to your plane(s). Try http://www.f3x.com check out the website and contact Tom. Oh, and don't forget to ogle his fine line of sailplanes. One of them might be your next F3F ship. Jeff Thompson Soaring wrote: SoaringSat, 4 Mar 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7251 In this issue: 9303 Help Needed...badly :( -- Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:49:56 -0800 From: Todd Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: 9303 Help Needed...badly :( Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I am in the process of learning how to work the new 9303. I am a basic slopehead and am looking for F3F set-up and DS setup...got one bird programmed and flyable just not using the endless options of this beauty properly. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to programming these puppiesjust struggling! Tried Horizon for some help and got a very nice fellow on line, but the problem was, He hadn't had much experience with the TX eitherHe reccomended that I post up and ask the Pro's for the help I need. So, with all that said, IF you own a 9303 and are blessed with the patience to help out others PLEASE, PLEASE write to me or call me...831-620-1852. Thank You in advance for whatever help is offered! :) Todd RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Klaus
Klaus, I'm sure to those who met him he was a nice guy at the field. But when I was trying to resolve my transaction with him find out where he'd disappeared to I met a number of people (mainly online, but some local) that were less than happy about his business dealings. When I read the cheery, upbeat PR BS about how well he'd done at Multiplex, I admit my mental circuits overloaded. Hail fellow well met is fine, but business is business. 'Nuff said on my part. Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringTue, 7 Feb 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7106 In this issue: Kits For Sale Re: [RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth RE: [RCSE] Re: Karlton Spindle -- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:56:46 -1000 From: "R/C Soaring.COM Webmaster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Kits For Sale Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am posting this for a friend. Please contact him if you are interested in any of these. Thanks, Joe. His e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtronics: Aquila 99", pristine in box plus glass fuselage Eclipse, 78" electric, complete with motor and prop Durable Aircraft Models EPP P-51 Mustang, PSS KA Models P-38 PSS, 50" span, fiberglass fuse and booms, foam wings with balsa sheeting PG Gerais (Czech Rep) Fox, aerobatic sailplane, 2 meter span, glass fuse, wings completed with covering Dodgson Saber 121" span, glass fuse, foam wings, spar partly assembled, three boxes Edmonds Algebra (England) 2.5 meter red gelcoat glass fuse, some balsa has brown stains BAE Hawk 50" PSS, P.J. Models English kit, fuse, wings and tail foam with veneer already applied DH Vampire 51" span PSS, foam wings already veneered, glass fuse pod K8b 1/4 scale pristine Flair kit (England) Oly llb, 1/4 scale thermal soarer, Charlesworth plans and canopy I also have those Mark Grand glass fuselages, one looks like a mini Phase 6 and the other is for a rotating wing small thermal ship. I have foam cores already cut for them. == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. InterNetwork Design Integration 4224 Waialae Avenue #155 Honolulu, HI 96816-5330 Phone: 808.394.NETS (6387) == What do you want to network today? -- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:15:16 -0800 From: "Marta Zavala" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "RCSE" soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0025_01C62B73.30D13C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice job Dave, thats very similar how Im mounting wing servos in the = Insanity wing. One ? Is that a "no trash" euro type sign on that 125 = high tech wing servo? Ill say no more! Walter - Original Message -=20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE=20 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: [RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings have some pics to share with you guys. = http://www.git-r-built.com/newsmgr/templates/grbNews.asp?articleid=3D30z= Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com --=_NextPart_000_0025_01C62B73.30D13C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Nice job Dave, thats very similar how = Im mounting=20 wing servos in the Insanity wing.nbsp; One ?nbsp; Is that a "no trash" = euro=20 type sign on that 125 high tech wing servo?nbsp; Ill say no = more!/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Walter/FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #00 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"- Original Message - /DIV DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"BFrom:/B=20 A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A = /DIV DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"BTo:/B A = [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:soaring@airage.com">"mailto:soaring@airage.com"RCSE/A /DIV DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"BSent:/B Monday, February 06, 2006 = 4:44=20 PM/DIV DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"BSubject:/B [RCSE] mounting = servo's in=20 bagged wings/DIV DIVBR/DIV DIVhave some pics to share with you guys./DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVA=20 = href=""
[RCSE] Re: Karlton Spindle
Karlton Spindle... Where have I heard that name before? Oh yes! Royal Multiplex! I bought a 'new' Multiplex vario w/ Hoopes TE probe from them; it was over a month and a half before I received it, every time I called about it Karlton was at a race no-one knew anything about it, and when I finally received it, the manual, receiver crystal and ear phone were missing. (No frequency marked on the TX crystal, so no clue as to the frequency. No help from Multiplex, either, since it had been discontinued.) After Royal crashed burned, and after using every method to track down the Spindles for another several months, his wife finally managed to send the manual. I finally sold it for half what I paid, to a fellow modeler who took the chance that he could find the correct receiver crystal. Most RC sellers distributors give very good service, but my experience with Royal was awful. I hear I wasn't alone. :-( Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7067
Hey, you can slope just about anything, all winter long. That's what we do in Minneapolis/St. Paul. Don't let winter stop you! Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringTue, 31 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7067 In this issue: Re: [RCSE] Supras? -- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:05:20 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:36:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that you've all been flying your Supras... we haven't really heard anything from you. Many of those Supra owners who have previously posted are currently experiencing a recurring climatological phenomenon known as WINTER! - not conducive to much flight testing activity. . . Good Lift! -- End of Soaring V1 #7067 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7044
Convert it yourself, easily. http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringFri, 27 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7044 In this issue: convert this please -- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:29:17 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: convert this please Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit htmlbody P SCRIPT language=javascriptpostamble();/SCRIPT At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXLnbsp; is listed with 81.7 dm squares andnbsp; BR36.7 grams/ dm square./P PCan someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . /P PThanks in advance, RichardBRBR/P/body/html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0-- -- End of Soaring V1 #7044 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6999
Imagine...You'd have nothing to do but launch retrieve it. Of course that could be solved by computers too, so all you'd have to do is take the planes to the field and assemble them. Then you could sit back in your chair read a book to stave off the boredom of watching a glider fly itself. Jeff Soaring wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:14:19 -0600 From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Computer Guided Thermaling Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine if your glider could sense thermals by onboard electronics and actually soar them by itself. http://hem.passagen.se/skj/engelska/NEWS2005.HTM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] DB9, etc.
Although I definitely wouldn't recommend it, I bought a 10 year old Sleger Spectrum F3B glider that had standard telephone jack connectors in the wings, and have had no problems with it! I doubt they were ever designed for the power load on a flap servo. Jeff Thompson Soaring wrote: SoaringSat, 7 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 6929 In this issue: Re: [RCSE] Aircraft Designers - Completing the Design Lachowski Pod Your kidding.. ? RE: [RCSE] Lachowski Pod Re: [RCSE] Lachowski Pod (pic) Re: [RCSE] Sold DLG + servos Batt F/S Pike Superior for sale -- Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:08:09 -0800 From: Simon Van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Aircraft Designers - Completing the Design Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not all DB series connectors are created equal Martin. Typical Radio Shack units are crap to say the least, and have cyclic lifespans (the number of times you can plug/unplug mating connectors before the level of resistance increases to unacceptable levels) similar to what you suggest. The DB-15HD's that I build into customer's harnesses are rated for 400+ cycles, this due directly the design of the pin/spring contact assemblies. Although they cost more, their (electrical) performance decrease over the first 200 cycles is negligeable. Sideways movement in any of this style of connectors is a non-issue given the male/female shrouding, so you can cease worrying about this. The average 0.100 3pin connector that folks are accustom to are not rated for multiple cycling, some of the units I have seen coming in on F3x aircraft from overseas are downright inferior (so is the lead material). Again, you get what you pay for here. High quality versions are indeed available that do offer high cyclic-ability, but they (again) cost more due to spring contact design that offers superior wiping without destroying both contact mating surfaces. I like hehe your non-lapriscopic comment, I'll have to incorporate that term in my advertising... regards Martin Usher wrote: My Stork uses a D type connector in the wing / wing mount to make all the connections to the wing servos. I think its a quite common arrangement on European molded planes, its convenient apart from the servo wires being all standard three pin servo wires that are not marked (so carelessly removing a receiver can lead to fun when replacing it..). The arrangement is neat but its not as good as it seems, the D types were not designed for repeated plugging and unplugging and the get a lot of sideways pull on them during wing attachment and removal -- both would contribute to the plug failing (and such failure would be intermittent.bad news for a servo connector). The standard three pin Molex type connector that's used with R/C equipment is quite a good compromise between cost and reliability..its probably the best connector for the job still. Deans are also OK, they're big but at least you can solder them. I don't think there's anything else I'd trust except maybe the plugs used with USB connectors -- there are are actually a lot of good connectors out there but they're not easy to buy and good connectors tend to be expensive (especially if you want something that will take repeated plugging and unplugging). I will agree with Simon that we need to design in cabling as part of the aircraft design. Not just cables, either -- room for nose weight, mounts for servos, non-lapriscopic access to servos and linkages -- details that really aren't that difficult to get right during the design and a nuisance to add after the fact. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Obechi thickness
Re: Obechi thickness: Why not go with light ply instead? Any thickness you want should be easy to obtain. Jeff Thompson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6759
If you don't have any luck buying one in the U.S., I'd recommend ordering one from Punctilio Modelspot in London--I wanted a weather shield for my Evo's Spacebox (TX tray;) it wasn't sold in the U.S., but I got it quickly and relatively inexpensively from them. http://www.modelspot.com/ Jeff Thompson Soaring wrote: SoaringTue, 29 Nov 2005 Volume 1 : Number 6759 In this issue: Multiplex field box in USA? -- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:24:10 -0800 From: Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Subject: Multiplex field box in USA? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know where I could purchase one of these field boxes in the USA? They seem to pop up once in a while but I don't see any vendors selling them. I'm looking for the smaller of the two. Thanks! -Jim -- End of Soaring V1 #6759 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
