Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing 850+ disambiguation errors

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Solved the 4 issues of it.wikipedia.org, now only 3 are shown by the query.
Can someone check ?

Thanks

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2017-09-09 7:09 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :

> Hello mappers! Could anyone help with over 800 OSM objects that are
> pointing to Wikipedia disambiguation pages?  Especially Polish community -
> 588. You can get the currently broken ones by running the query below (you
> may want to modify it a bit to list more relevant objects).  If you feel
> brave, there are also 25,000+ objects with incorrect Wikipedia tags.
> Thanks!
>
> Main: OSM disambig query
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SPARQL_examples#OSM_objects_linking_to_Wikipedia_disambiguation_pages>
> Direct: http://tinyurl.com/ya4lhmt8
>
> Bad Wikipedia tag - could be because non-existent title, or a redirect, or
> because Wikidata item hasn't been created yet: query
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SPARQL_examples#Objects_whose_Wikipedia_tag_does_not_exist_in_Wikidata>
>
> The current statistics for Disambig pages, per corresponding Wikipedia
> site:
> // generated with http://tinyurl.com/yarkdy53
>
> https://pl.wikipedia.org/ 588
> https://en.wikipedia.org/ 74
> unknown 36
> https://de.wikipedia.org/ 24
> https://sv.wikipedia.org/ 18
> https://cs.wikipedia.org/ 17
> https://zh.wikipedia.org/ 8
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/ 7
> https://vi.wikipedia.org/ 7
> https://ru.wikipedia.org/ 5
> https://ja.wikipedia.org/ 5
> ...
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Re: [OSM-talk] Message error on umap

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Still looking in Umap on how to specify the delimiter. I tried your second
option to "just mess up" the interface and the data to try to find what is
confusing the app, but no joy till now. Maybe the tentative to attract with
the the easiness of the CSV has shown again its limitation. Thanks for your
hint, I will continue to play with data and app.

Fabrizio

2017-07-15 22:16 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :

> The delimeter is what separates one "cell" of data in the CSV file from
> the next.  Umap is telling you it cannot automatically determine what
> character you are using to separate the fields.  You will either need to
> tell it what character you are using manually (not sure how this is done
> on the umap interface), or change your CSV file to use one of the
> delimeters that it can autodetect.  Either way you will need to look at
> the documentation for umap or just mess around in the interface until
> you find what you need.  Hope this at least points you in the right
> direction, even if it is not a direct answer to your problem.
>
> -AndrewBuck
>
>
>
>
> On 07/15/2017 10:34 AM, Fabrizio Carrai wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I hope to not be out-of-topic but I'm having this message error when my
> > umap [1] is loaded:
> >
> > "Could not autodetect delimiter"
> >
> > After closing the pop-up data are shown correctly, but the message is
> > annoying. The map reads the data from a CSV remote data source that looks
> > good to me.
> >
> > Any idea ? Thanks in advance
> >
> > FabC
> >
> >
> > [1]
> > https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/it/map/ariss-school-contacts-
> missione-vita_157353#7/43.592/13.118
> >
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[OSM-talk] Message error on umap

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Hello,
I hope to not be out-of-topic but I'm having this message error when my
umap [1] is loaded:

"Could not autodetect delimiter"

After closing the pop-up data are shown correctly, but the message is
annoying. The map reads the data from a CSV remote data source that looks
good to me.

Any idea ? Thanks in advance

FabC


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Re: [OSM-talk] NASA sites

[Fabrizio Carrai]

No, it's clear to me that we don't "tag for the renderer". I'm trying to
have all the main info in the tags, easier if it would to go in the name.
But it is not going in this way. For what I can find the correct names
looks like as we have now:

"Johnson Space Center"
"Marshall Space Flight Center"
etc..

Then they are referred as NASA sites as "NASA's Johnson ... space center",
"NASA's Marshall...space center", etc... So, the name=* looks good.

It remains to solve the JPL case, where the operator is the Caltech but it
is a NASA center (
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=198909689)

FabC


2016-06-27 14:57 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale :

> Is "NASA" really part of the actual name, or are you suggesting "tagging
> for the renderer" because you expect to see "NASA" on the map? NASA is
> certainly the operator, and that tag links the site to NASA.
>
> //colin
>
>
>
>
> On 2016-06-27 14:38, Fabrizio Carrai wrote:
>
> Correct, without NASA in the name we miss the important relation with the
> agency.
>
>
>
> 2016-06-27 13:29 GMT+02:00 Adam Schreiber :
>
>> NASA could be added to the operator tag.  That could cause some confusion
>> with regard to JPL as it's operated by the California Institute of
>> Technology for NASA.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adam
>> On Jun 27, 2016 07:05, "Fabrizio Carrai" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I was checking about the NASA sites and I found the "NASA" term was not
>>> always presente in the name tag:
>>>
>>> "Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center", Houston [1]
>>> "Kennedy Space Center" (See Note below)
>>> "Jet Propulsion Laboratory" , Pasadena, California [2]
>>>
>>> The Goddard is an exception (IMHO correct and complete)
>>>
>>> "NASA Goddard Space Flight Center" [3]
>>>
>>> Note: The Kennedy Space Center limits are not defined, I don't know if
>>> they can be.
>>>
>>> Sometime "NASA" is indicated as "operator". What do you think, should
>>> NASA be added to all the names ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your opinion.
>>>
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>>> *[1] **http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/29.5630/-95.0919
>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/29.5630/-95.0919>*
>>> *[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374485271
>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374485271>*
>>> *[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4237285
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Re: [OSM-talk] NASA sites

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Correct, without NASA in the name we miss the important relation with the
agency.



2016-06-27 13:29 GMT+02:00 Adam Schreiber :

> NASA could be added to the operator tag.  That could cause some confusion
> with regard to JPL as it's operated by the California Institute of
> Technology for NASA.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
> On Jun 27, 2016 07:05, "Fabrizio Carrai" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> I was checking about the NASA sites and I found the "NASA" term was not
>> always presente in the name tag:
>>
>> "Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center", Houston [1]
>> "Kennedy Space Center" (See Note below)
>> "Jet Propulsion Laboratory" , Pasadena, California [2]
>>
>> The Goddard is an exception (IMHO correct and complete)
>>
>> "NASA Goddard Space Flight Center" [3]
>>
>> Note: The Kennedy Space Center limits are not defined, I don't know if
>> they can be.
>>
>> Sometime "NASA" is indicated as "operator". What do you think, should
>> NASA be added to all the names ?
>>
>> Thanks for your opinion.
>>
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>>
>> *[1] **http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/29.5630/-95.0919
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/29.5630/-95.0919>*
>> *[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374485271
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374485271>*
>> *[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4237285
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4237285>*
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[OSM-talk] NASA sites

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Hello all,
I was checking about the NASA sites and I found the "NASA" term was not
always presente in the name tag:

"Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center", Houston [1]
"Kennedy Space Center" (See Note below)
"Jet Propulsion Laboratory" , Pasadena, California [2]

The Goddard is an exception (IMHO correct and complete)

"NASA Goddard Space Flight Center" [3]

Note: The Kennedy Space Center limits are not defined, I don't know if they
can be.

Sometime "NASA" is indicated as "operator". What do you think, should NASA
be added to all the names ?

Thanks for your opinion.

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*[1] **http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/29.5630/-95.0919
*
*[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374485271
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*[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4237285
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Re: [OSM-talk] Lightning fast car routing built on OpenStreetMap data, with draggable routes

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Routing from Ragusa (Sicily, Italy) to Rovaniemi (Sweden), 4474 Km is
also almost immediate [1]!
It is pity that the search of the "Start" and "End" places find
strange locations:

"Ragusa, Italy" reports "Malavita, Ragusa". Close, but out of the city.
"Livorno, Italy" reports a natural land that it is in the Livorno
area, but it is a small rock in the middle of the sea!

Compliments for the job!
F.

[1] 
http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=4&loc=69.747531,18.6308894&loc=36.5218906,-6.2823789&jsonp=showRouteLink&json_callback=OSRM.JSONP.callbacks.shortener&jsonp=OSRM.JSONP.callbacks.shortener

Il 17 marzo 2012 00:33, Jean-Marc Liotier  ha scritto:
> Spotted in @openstreetmap's Twitter feed... I don't remember having ever
> used a routing service that fast. It is apparently tuned for car
> routing... And that's all I can say since the Karlsruher Institut für
> Technologie whose homepage is linked from the results panel doesn't seem
> to say anything about it. If anyone has further information about this
> exciting service...
>
> Try Tromso to Cadiz... http://map.project-osrm.org/bz - a 5201k route
> generated instantly as far as I can measure. And it crosses ferries too,
> so Inverness to Athens works (http://map.project-osrm.org/bA) as does
> Moscow to Malta (http://map.project-osrm.org/bB) !
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[OSM-talk] OSM used by James Gosling's presentation at OracleWorld

[Fabrizio Giudici]

FYI http://blogs.sun.com/jag/entry/my_slides_from_oracle_openworld

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Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

[Fabrizio Giudici]

Ed Avis wrote:

Fabrizio Giudici  tidalwave.it> writes:

  

Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple:
"taxonomy name", "taxonomy year", "binomial name". Eg.
"Clements", "2008", "Larus canus"



  species:Clements:2008=Larus canus

That also allows for other taxonomies to be added at the same time, and for
more general 'species:Clements' and just plain 'species' in cases where the
taxonomy is well-established, or the person doing the tagging isn't an expert.
(I would just use the species name on display at the zoo, and tag it as
'species', unless I were enough of an expert to be more specific.)
  

Sounds ok.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

[Fabrizio Giudici]

Jacek Konieczny wrote:
 


On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:42:25PM +0100, Jack Stringer wrote:
> My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that
local name.
> But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some
people off
> from tagging Zoos.

But precise latin specie name is a universal identifier (rather than
a „human readable” name), which can be easily translated to local
names
by automated means. For some species, I guess, there will be no
English
name, but there may be a local name.  And Latin name will always be
defined.

As I'm presently working on a semantic application which includes bird 
catalogs, I can say that things aren't so easy (but aren't much harder). 
While the idea of using the latin name (a.k.a. binomial name) is a good 
idea (much better than localized names, that often are ambiguous), there 
isn't a "universal" catalog of names (my experience is limited to birds, 
but I expect my point is valid for other animals too). Instead there is 
a number of different taxonomies around, even though some are more 
commonly used than others (e.g. Clements for birds); probably the most 
complex point is that names don't stay the same in time, as taxonomies 
are constantly evolved and maintained; sometimes a single species name 
changes, sometimes the genus name changes, sometimes two different 
species are grouped into a single one, sometimes what is considered a 
single species with "variants" is split in multiple species.


Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple: 
"taxonomy name", "taxonomy year", "binomial name". Eg.


"Clements", "2008", "Larus canus"

would represent the "Mew gull" (not sure it's called "Common gull" 
throughout the whole world, BTW). This should be enough, and would make 
possible to specialized applications (such as mine) to find the semantic 
equivalence with other taxonomies, localized names and so on.


While this might sound picky, in the Semantic Web perspective it is 
important to be picky.


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Re: [OSM-talk] best GPX collection tool for Palm Treo 650

[Fabrizio Giudici]

Michael Kugelmann wrote:

Hello,
  
I wrote and maintain windRose (http://windrose.tidalwave.it). 

  
BTW: does anybody know where to get the IBM Java runtime which is 
required for windRose? It is no longer downloadable from the PALM 
homepage nor from IBM...   :-(
  
Unfortunately this is not possible by official channels, as the product 
has been discontinued. You could try to contact somebody that has got it 
already installed on his Palm :-)


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Re: [OSM-talk] best GPX collection tool for Palm Treo 650

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Monday 08 June 2009 02:24:40 Michael Kugelmann wrote:
  

Joe Richards wrote:


What's the best tool for collecting GPX trails and adding OSM waypoints
for Palm OS?
  

I
I wrote and maintain windRose (http://windrose.tidalwave.it). It lets 
you enter geotagged notes, that could be interpreted as waypoints. It 
exports in GPX (but not with waypoints) and an internal format (WRX, XML 
based) with waypoints. The latter is going to be dropped in favour of 
the former. If you try it and give me a quick feedback about what you 
need, I could easily fill the gaps. It works with various type of maps 
including OSM, and you can preload them on a memory support. It works 
with any bluetooth GPS receiver.


Let me know if you try it. Have a look at the quickstart for the 
description of the main features.


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[OSM-talk] R: newbie question related to "ele" (elevation)

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Not an expert, but wouldn't be a better approach to use the DEM data ? Maybe
the accuracy wouldn't be great everywhere but the coverage should be more
extended.

F.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
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  Oggetto: [OSM-talk] newbie question related to "ele" (elevation)


  There use to be "ele" tag for nodes. I exported a small area into an OSM
file today and
  I do not see "ele" tag anymore. Is that removed?.



  I saw some discussions around non usefulness of that tag.



  http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=403



  My interest in finding elevation of a given location (lat,lon).



  What is the best way to find that?



  Thanks
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[OSM-talk] R: R: RFC: amenity=mortuary (and amenity=emergency_room)

[Fabrizio Carrai]

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di David Paleino
> Inviato: mercoledì 13 maggio 2009 21.40
> A: talk@openstreetmap.org
> Oggetto: Re: [OSM-talk] R: RFC: amenity=mortuary (and
> amenity=emergency_room)
> 
> 
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:16:59 +0200, Fabrizio Carrai wrote:
> 
> > I agree for the "morgue" term.
> 
> Well, ok. I'm not particularly in favour of one version over the other ;)
> 
> > I would say something to key "amenity" an why I would prefer 
> the use of the
> > key "landuse"
> 
> Well, "landuse"?!.. it's not "land", it usually is a building... Maybe I'm
> missing this, but maybe you forgot your motivations for "landuse"?

"For areas of land used by people": maybe it too much generic and maybe the one 
I know it includes a building but has a wide garden all around.

> 
> > I don't know in other launguages but in italian the most common 
> meaning for
> > AMENITY is something nice, beautiful, pleasant...
> 
> Eh già ;)
> However, I'd really stick to "amenity": those are meant as 
> "facilities" (maybe
> "facility=" would be better? But then we would need to change a 
> *lot* of tags
> out there)

In my opinion it would have been far more appropriate, but you are right, it is 
almost impossible to change.

> 
> > attributes not related at all with "morgue" and few other 
> "amenity=..." like:
> > 
> > - crematorium
> > - dentist
> 
> Uhm.. I'm studying dentistry.. wanna come? :p

My one is already enough for me, thanks! ;-)

> 
> > [..]
> > 
> > Just for the sake of completeness there is also the (unusual) 
> translation in
> > "comodita' " (commodity), that is the one that make more sense 
> in the OSM
> > context.
> 
> Also "comodità" in Italian has a different meaning from the 
> English term, I
> believe.

Corrections are always welcome, but in that case it is not important.

Ciao!
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[OSM-talk] R: RFC: amenity=mortuary (and amenity=emergency_room)

[Fabrizio Carrai]

I agree for the "morgue" term.

I would say something to key "amenity" an why I would prefer the use of the
key "landuse"

I don't know in other launguages but in italian the most common meaning for
AMENITY is something nice, beautiful, pleasant...attributes not related at
all with "morgue" and few other "amenity=..." like:

- crematorium
- dentist
- emergency_phone
- grave_yard
- prison

Just for the sake of completeness there is also the (unusual) translation in
"comodita' " (commodity), that is the one that make more sense in the OSM
context.

Fabrizio


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> Oggetto: [OSM-talk] RFC: amenity=mortuary (and amenity=emergency_room)
>
>
> Hello,
> I was mapping an hospital, and encountered two mortuaries/morgues. So I've
> tagged them amenity=mortuary, building=yes, and proposed the new tag:
>
>   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Amenity:mortuary
>
> Any comment is highly appreciated, before I move it to vote :)
>
> Also, inside the same hospital, there is an ER, which is a
> separate building in
> my case. Thus I didn't find the combination amenity=hospital,
> emergency=yes
> (which insteads is applied to the whole hospital area) useful,
> and I've tagged
> it amenity=emergency_room. Before I draft a proposal for this
> too, is there
> anyone experienced with such a situation?
>
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[OSM-talk] R: dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

[Fabrizio Carrai]

The same in Italy. They are als called "Para-Farmacie" (Para-Pharmacy").
Useful tag, indeed. It can focus the research of the closer (Para)Pharmacy
either you have a prescription or not.

F.

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> Inviato: sabato 9 maggio 2009 0.28
> A: Adam Schreiber
> Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Paul Johnson
> Oggetto: Re: [OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing
>
>
>
> Adam Schreiber  writes:
>
> >> My understanding is that dispensing=yes on a pharmacy would be a
> >> pharmacy where you can get a prescription filled.
> >
> > Yes, but here in the US you wouldn't call anything where you couldn't
> > get a prescription filled a pharmacy so the dispensing tag is
> > redundant.  I think that's what he's getting at.
>
> Exactly.  I now understand from "UK Pharmacist" that there are a
> non-negligible number of places in the UK which have licensed
> pharmacists who can sell an intermediate class of items between the US
> "over the counter" and "prescriptions".
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Aug 27, 2008, at 13:46 , Chris G wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 01:26:01PM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I rand my N810 in parallel with my Garmin Geko 201 and they both
>>> produced comparable results. I'm quite happy with the built-in GPS.
>>
>> works for me as well, as long the device is placed upright in a car  
>> via the
>> suction mount. In other cases, where it's difficult to place the  
>> device in an
>> exposed upright position (biking, hinking) things look differently.
>>
> My thoughts are actually moving away from the N810, the big drawback
> for me is that it needs a mobile phone as well to be able to connect
> from anywhere.
>
> I'm actually thinking more about a 'smartphone' (e.g. a Palm Treo)
> with an external GPS logger that can connect to it via bluetooth.

If you're using a Treo, you can try windRose (windrose.tidalwave.it).  
I'm using it regularly to record my tracks and the latest version can  
export GPX - I've piled up a set of tracks from the latest weeks that  
I'll upload to OSM as soon as I've finished studying the documents.  
Should be there any minor flaw with the exported format, I can fix it  
very quickly.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Why OpenStreetMap is not Wikipedia

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jul 29, 2008, at 0:21 , Frederik Ramm wrote:

>
> I believe that some people are very quick to simply transfer "lessons
> learned" from Wikipedia onto OSM, sometimes without properly taking  
> into
> account that while there are similarities, there are also lots of
> differences.


There's another difference, which is quite important (to me at least).  
Wikipedia collects knowledge in general and a great deal of this  
knowledge (if not most of it) is partly subjective; in the end, the  
good faith of its contributors and the existence of a mechanism to  
verify it is important. Furthermore, there is stuff where the  
"objective truth" doesn't exist at all - all of this bring up the  
point of how much one trust in Wikipedia, if you prefer such an  
approach or the traditional one with an editor, a board of  
controllers, etc... On the contrary, OSM is documenting mostly factual  
data based on empirical observation (the GPS tracks). Yes, there are  
the boundary controversies etc, but fortunately they involve only a  
part of the world. Summing up, there are no strong problems of trust  
in OSM, while there are in Wikipedia, IMHO.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPS receiver orientation

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jul 26, 2008, at 13:37 , Franc Carter wrote:

>
> My entirely annecdotal experience has been that my TomTom 910 takes  
> longer to get a fix when I am moving than stationary. I have an  
> external aerial, so the movement should be the main determinent


The same for me with my Hamlet GPS receiver. I've seen that if I'm  
moving it could be unable to get a fix indefinitely (tested up to 30  
minutes), while stopping and turning it off and then on usually works  
less than a couple of minutes.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:25 , Simon Ward wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 08:27:56AM +0100, elvin ibbotson wrote:
>> Why not use Java instead of Microsoft stuff then it would run on
>> anything.
>
> Java doesn’t really run on anything,

Well, this is just nonsense :-) NASA World Wind for Java is made in  
Java, runs on everything (probably soon even on mobile phones), it's  
OpenGL based and fast, and takes advantage of hardware acceleration. I  
think that people should be able to defend their own legitimate  
technology choices without the need of saying nonsense about other  
technologies. :-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:35 , Robert Vollmert wrote:

>
> On Jul 18, 2008, at 09:27, elvin ibbotson wrote:
>> Very nice but it needs DirectX. I cut my map programming teeth on a
>> viewer for British OS maps which uses Java 3D 
>> (http://britain.poco.org.uk/desktop.html
>> ). I can’t share it because of copyright restrictions on the maps,
>> but the principle would apply to any map source including OSM. Why
>> not use Java instead of Microsoft stuff then it would run on
>> anything. There’s an awful lot of us using Linux or Macs - anything
>> but Windows!. I like the idea of Kosmos but - MS .net!!
>>
> If you had tried, you'd know that Kosmos does in fact run on Linux
> with Mono. This one doesn't since there's no DirectX support in Mono,
> but I'm sure it'd be possible to port it to something like 
> http://axiomengine.sourceforge.net/
>  .
>
> In my opinion, a Windows only project with source available is worth a
> lot more than some closed Java thing. On that note, how can the
> license on the maps keep you from releasing the source code to your
> viewer?


I think that Kosmos is ok as is - if you need some open Java stuff you  
can always use NASA World Wind for Java, which works fine with OSM  
data and can merge it with elevation data.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator

[Fabrizio Giudici]

Ok, thanks. I've added a quick-and-dirty about box with all the info  
(the icon overlay on the map requires more work, since shrinking the  
icon to a reasonable size turns it into a random cluster of pixels).

May I just suggest to add a URL redirector at

   http://openstreetmap.org/Attrib

that points to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution?  
The latter is really long for a mobile device, it needs wrapping for  
rendering and wrapping is not aesthetically pleasing.

Thanks.



On Jul 17, 2008, at 15:14 , Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

> El Jueves, 17 de Julio de 2008, Fabrizio Giudici escribió:
>> I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default
>> provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm
>> guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my
>> application
>
> Well, the current CC license specifies that the attribution notice  
> has to be
> reasonable to the medium.
>
> In other words, if your mobile navigator has limited screen real  
> state, you
> may choose to display or not to display an OSM logo or copyright  
> notice in
> the main screen.
>
> A simple splash screen with the logo and URL is fine. A notice on  
> the "about"
> section of your program (if you have it) is fine. However, please do  
> link to
> www.openstreetmap.org *and* either the license page on the wiki[1]  
> or the
> CC-by-sa license[2].
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution
> [2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
>
>
> As we have seen in The State of the Map last weekend, displaying the  
> names of
> all contributors can be a daunting task.
>
>
> Cheers,
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[OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator

[Fabrizio Giudici]

Hi there.

I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default  
provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm  
guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my  
application - what about writing OSM (or maybe a logo - is it the  
magnifying glass at the left top corner in the home page the official  
logo of OSM?) over the rendered maps? Thanks for any feedback.



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Re: [OSM-talk] [OT] OSM based photo catalogue

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jun 11, 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Hill wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, John McKerrell wrote:
>
>> Indeed, flickr's great and can do most of this stuff well. I like to
>> use this site[1] to geotag my photos on flickr just because it's
>> really nice and easy but there's lots of other ways to do it.
>
> I use DigiKam to geotag my photos - it is about the only photo manager
> I've found which is actually any good.  I set up my website to embed a
> slippymap with markers for each photo.  e.g.
> http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/skiing/switzerland/verbier/2008/02/23/



On Jun 11, 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Hill wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, John McKerrell wrote:
>
>> Indeed, flickr's great and can do most of this stuff well. I like to
>> use this site[1] to geotag my photos on flickr just because it's
>> really nice and easy but there's lots of other ways to do it.
>
> I use DigiKam to geotag my photos - it is about the only photo manager
> I've found which is actually any good.  I set up my website to embed a
> slippymap with markers for each photo.  e.g.
> http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/skiing/switzerland/verbier/2008/02/23/
>

blueMarine (bluemarine.tidalwave.it) also allows geotagging both  
manually and matching timestaps with a recorder track. It uses many  
geodata sources including OSM. But it's not yet ready for production  
use.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Enabling communities to use OSM as a planning tool

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Jun 4, 2008, at 20:39 , spaetz wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 11:09:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> One thought that occurs to me is that there will be many,  
>>> disparate groups
>>> wishing to use OSM to plan stuff, only a very small proportion of  
>>> which
>>> would eventually become reality. I'm not sure if it would be  
>>> appropriate
>>> to add these features to the main OSM database.
>>>
>>
>> I would also agree that it is probably not appropriate to add  
>> addition
>> (non-real) data to the main database, as it will make the editor view
>> significantly more cluttered and confused.
>>
>> At present they can achieve the same effect using off line file and
>> merging layers before rendering.
>
> OpenLayers is capable of rendering local .osm data, so it's possible  
> to have a local "planning layer" overlaid on the plain map.


I don't know what Simon had in mind, in any case I'm developing an  
application where there will be travel planning, and it will also use  
OSM. I think that this should be done locally, as others have  
suggested (in my case I have a full fledged desktop application, so  
there are no problems at all).

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Re: [OSM-talk] Geolocation photos - what software/hardware do I need?

[Fabrizio Giudici]

There are lot of options. Just a couple of hours ago I read about a  
GPS receiver/recorder where you can plug in a storage card and it  
annotates all the contained photos with the GPS coordinates matching  
the timestamp.


Nevertheless I don't see the reason for buying special hardware - the  
same timestamp matching is performed by a number of free software  
around, you just need a GPS recorded that produces data with a well- 
known format.


On Dec 28, 2007, at 14:24 , Gregory wrote:


Hi all,

I'm buying/getting a digital camera for my birthday/christmas. What  
would be really cool if I can start doing stuff with photos tagged  
with their lat/lon, but I'm unsure what exactly I need to do this  
easily.


Are there any cameras out there that aren't incredibly expensive  
and have something that would work with my bluetooth GPS reciever?  
(or have a built in reciever?)
Or do I just need some software that I can point to a folder of  
time stamped jpegs and add all the lat/lons from a gps log file?  
Where would I get such software that is free or worth paying for?



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