Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-23 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 22 May 2006 at 5:27:31 PM, in
, Ben Allen wrote:

>... but then again I can always correct it.

Which kinda defeats the point of having a dictionary / spell
checker  (-:

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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-22 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy MFPA,

Friday, May 19, 2006, 10:23:16 PM, MFPA wrotened:

>> Times change.

MFPA> Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
MFPA> -ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

MFPA> Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
MFPA> in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
MFPA> tense, -ized was much in evidence).

MFPA> A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
MFPA> more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)

Its  one  of those interesting things with languages... especially the
English  Language,  which  lets face it has borrowed words and phrases
from  most languages (French, Latin, Saxon etc etc.), that they are in
a permanent state of flux. To the best of my knowledge the suffix -ize
is  Americanism,  but  it did exist in one or two words in the English
version  of  English.  It's  basically a different dialect of the same
language.  However  to  put  American spellings in the British English
section  of  the  International Dictionary does seem wrong... but then
again I can always correct it.



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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-19 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Saturday, May 20, 2006, 7:23:16 AM, you wrote:

M> Hi

M> On Thursday 4 May 2006 at 3:32:04 AM, in
M> , Paul Berger wrote:

>> There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
>> remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
>> uses.

M> My understanding is that while -ize is standard in the US, in most
M> cases in the UK it is merely an "acceptable" alternative to the
M> usual -ise form. (I repeat my previous comment that to whom it is
M> "acceptable" has never been clear.)

M> I can see an argument for supporting a spelling that is standard
M> one side of the pond and "acceptable" the other side...

>> Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage

M> Never heard of it.

>> Times change.

M> Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
M> -ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

M> Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
M> in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
M> tense, -ized was much in evidence).

M> A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
M> more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)



I see your point of view. I have no strong feelings either way.


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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-19 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Thursday 4 May 2006 at 3:32:04 AM, in
, Paul Berger wrote:

> There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
> remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
> uses.

My understanding is that while -ize is standard in the US, in most
cases in the UK it is merely an "acceptable" alternative to the
usual -ise form. (I repeat my previous comment that to whom it is
"acceptable" has never been clear.)

I can see an argument for supporting a spelling that is standard
one side of the pond and "acceptable" the other side...

> Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage

Never heard of it.

> Times change.

Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
-ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
tense, -ized was much in evidence).

A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)

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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 3:27:30 AM, you wrote:

M> Hi

M> On Monday 1 May 2006 at 4:45:58 AM, in
M> , Paul Berger
M> wrote:


>> Yes, "British English".


M> Unless it has changed since the version I have, you will find lots
M> of spellings that are "acceptable" in UK English but more usually
M> seen in US English, such as -ize endings instead of -ise...

M> Acceptable to whom is anybody's guess, since the UK has no
M> equivalent of L'Acadamie Francaise.


Hi MFPA.

There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
uses.

Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage also prefers -ize with a list of
44 exceptions. Also a simple rule  of thumb that if a verb can form a
noun ending in -ation, then the verb should be spelled -ize.

Times change.


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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-03 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 1 May 2006 at 4:45:58 AM, in
, Paul Berger
wrote:


> Yes, "British English".


Unless it has changed since the version I have, you will find lots
of spellings that are "acceptable" in UK English but more usually
seen in US English, such as -ize endings instead of -ise...

Acceptable to whom is anybody's guess, since the UK has no
equivalent of L'Acadamie Francaise.

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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Monday, May 1, 2006, 5:20:58 AM, you wrote:

MG> Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?



Yes, "British English".


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Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-04-30 Thread Marten Gallagher
Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:21:34 -0500 GMT (20/04/2006, 09:21 +0700 GMT),
Chris wrote:

>> Why would you use the subject line "Re: Blah blah" for anything
>> other than a reply to message that had the subject "Blah blah"?

C> Consider a paper memo. In that case, RE means "regarding."

Consider an email message. In that case, SUBJECT means "regarding",
"Re:" means "Reply:". ;-)

Are we off-topic yet?

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-20 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Chris & everyone else,

on 20-Apr-2006 at 04:21 you (Chris) wrote:

>> Why would you use the subject line "Re: Blah blah" for anything other
>> than a reply to message that had the subject "Blah blah"?

> Consider a paper memo. In that case, RE means "regarding."

Well, if we'd be writing paper memos, ok, but we're using TheBat, and I
think what I'm writing right now is not a paper memo. :-D :-D

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-19 Thread Chris

MFPA @ 4/19/2006 3:08:07 PM
"International Pack" 

> Why would you use the subject line "Re: Blah blah" for anything
> other than a reply to message that had the subject "Blah blah"?

Consider a paper memo. In that case, RE means "regarding."

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-19 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Wednesday 19 April 2006 at 7:11:42 PM, in
, Tim Hamm wrote:

> Yes, that is correct...

That is confusing me as well.

Why would you use the subject line "Re: Blah blah" for anything
other than a reply to message that had the subject "Blah blah"?

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Re[2]: International Pack

2006-04-19 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Martin,

Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 5:16:12 AM, you wrote:

> to me it seems like you
> start all your threads with a subject "Re: ..." don't you?

Yes, that is correct...

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tim,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:58:31 -0700GMT (19-4-2006, 4:58 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:


TH> My question is; when I downloaded the International Pack
TH> originally and installed it on my machine, where does it install
TH> files at?

Partially at the program directory and partially in
%programdir%\speller

TH> I then deleted the new TB folder in my application data and pasted
TH> the old TB folder back to my application data folder. Everything
TH> seems to work okay but I just want to verify that my International
TH> Pack is there. I hope this is not too confusing.


I think it should work.

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-19 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Tim,

A question not relating to your question: to me it seems like you
start all your threads with a subject "Re: ..." don't you? Or am I
missing the original post somehow?

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Re: International Pack

2006-04-18 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello TBUDL,

  I reloaded my OS and copied TB application folder back into my
  user account and everything is back working or is it? My question
  is; when I downloaded the International Pack originally and
  installed it on my machine, where does it install files at? Is it
  the Program Folder or the Application Data folder under my user
  account? The reason I'm asking is that I can't remember if it
  installs itself as a regular program where you would normally locate
  it in the Program Folder or Add/Remove Folder. Is there a way to
  know if it is properly installed on my machine? I didn't do the
  proper backup but what I did was to copy the whole TB folder under my
  application data and when I reloaded TB, and set up my two
  accounts, I then deleted the new TB folder in my application data
  and pasted the old TB folder back to my application data folder.
  Everything seems to work okay but I just want to verify that my
  International Pack is there. I hope this is not too confusing.

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International pack

2004-05-27 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello All,

I'm using the latest version of the International pack but I miss
The Dutch spelling checker in it. (It will give me a Dutch menu
but not the spelling checker).

I've reinstalled it again but that does not solve it. What is
wrong? Should I go back to an earlier International pack (when it
was still a .exe file and not a msi file?)

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