Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello John,

  A reminder of what John Morse on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 00:02:17 GMT -0600

 And yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 A rebel eh! Your nothing but a big softy, a true rebel wouldn't meekly
 apologize straight away after such a bold statement :)

 Have fun with Becky, I hear she's a real go'er.


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Re[2]: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello John,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:02:17 AM, you wrote:

 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to.
 And yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

So you wipe your ass before you goto the toilet then :)

Sean

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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Sunday, 21 November, 2004, at 6:02:17 AM, John Morse wrote:

 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to.

The relevance to the subject of Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 is
not immediately obvious.

Why will you not stop top posting? Do you have a problem with
enabling people to follow what you are rabbiting on about?

 And yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 ~John

Presumably the ~ means something like of the order of
magnitude?

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backup and purge very old messages

2004-11-21 Thread Kariem Hussein
Hi,
I thought it would be quite simple, but I haven't found any solution to 
my problem yet. I searched through the online help, knowledge base and 
FAQs and through this list's archive, and I just cannot believe that 
nobody has the same problem. Perhaps I just did not look at the right 
spot or for the right term. I hope someone on this list can help me.

I've been using TB for a very long time now, and apparently my different 
mail accounts managed by TB have grown rather large. I do backups every 
once in a while, so I'm not afraid of losing any data. The problem is, 
that startup and closing of TB takes several seconds and the message 
bases use up too much space on my hard drive.

What I'd like to do now:
 # select a timeframe (e.g. 1 year)
 # backup all these messages
 # delete the messages from the message base
The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a 
per-folder-basis. I have to select keep in message base for (days) in 
each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It 
would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders.

Do you have any suggestions?
I used to think of Pine (or Horde Webmail), where the user is asked at 
the start of each month to automatically clean some folders. The problem 
is that I do not only want to delete these messages, but save them 
somewhere in order to access them later on. A big part of my life is 
saved in my email messages :)

It would be great to be able to search through the archives (=backups) 
at a later stage.

Thank you,
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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Pank Floyd

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 1:02:17 AM, John Morse
( mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote:

JM The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.

Does this mean that you're not happy ?

JM I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to.

Becky is a fine mailer and is an outstanding choice when one is
willing to settle for less.

JM And yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope you feel better soon.

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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Lou
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:02:17 -0600, John Morse wrote:
 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to. And yes,
 I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 ~John

Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it instead of TB 3.0. I 
have found a few minor gotcha's but so far it is less bug laden than TB. I am 
still on 2.12 or so, and looking for alternatives. Have never heard of Becky, I 
will have a look.

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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Lou,

  A reminder of what Lou on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 05:39:04 GMT -0500

 Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it instead of
 TB 3.0.

 Life is tough, it is tougher if you're stupid.

Funny how relevant taglines have a habit of cropping up at just the right
moment isn't it :)


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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Lou
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:49:40 +, Tony Boom wrote:
 Hello Lou,

 A reminder of what Lou on TBUDL typed on:
 21 November 2004 at 05:39:04 GMT -0500

 Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it
 instead of TB 3.0.


 Life is tough, it is tougher if you're stupid.

 Funny how relevant taglines have a habit of cropping up at just the
 right moment isn't it :)

Yes, and isn't it amazing how people interpret them... :-)
I spent years figuring out why life was so tough for me.

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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Lou,

  A reminder of what Lou on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 05:57:35 GMT -0500

 I spent years figuring out why life was so tough for me.

 Lou
 Life is tough, it is tougher if you're stupid.

 Well there's your answer :)


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Re[2]: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Lou,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:39:04 AM, you wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:02:17 -0600, John Morse wrote:
 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to. And yes,
 I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 ~John

 Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it
 instead of TB 3.0. I have found a few minor gotcha's but so far it
 is less bug laden than TB. I am still on 2.12 or so, and looking for
 alternatives. Have never heard of Becky, I will have a look.

I registered Becky before I started using TB! but I cannot see myself going 
back. I have tried each new version but TB! is the only on

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Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-)

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marck,

  A reminder of what Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 11:25:39 GMT +

  '

 A! Gonna take weeks to get that smell out of my hair now :)


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Re[2]: Set priority in templates ?

2004-11-21 Thread WilWilWil


MB I found these in Help/Help Topics/Index/Macros/Full alphabetical list
MB of macros. Hope these are what you need.
Thanks. I didn't know there is a complete list of macros in helpfile. Great 
news ! :-)

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Re[3]: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Lou
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:54:51 +, Sean Rima wrote:
 Hello Lou,

 Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:39:04 AM, you wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:02:17 -0600, John Morse wrote:

 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to. And
 yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 ~John

 Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it
 instead of TB 3.0. I have found a few minor gotcha's but so far
 it is less bug laden than TB. I am still on 2.12 or so, and
 looking for alternatives. Have never heard of Becky, I will have
 a look.


 I registered Becky before I started using TB! but I cannot see
 myself going back. I have tried each new version but TB! is the
 only on

 Sean

Thanks. I have been using TB! for several years, somewhere around 2.0. I have 
always wandered back myself. If TB! would handle filters consistently, I would 
not look elsewhere. Alas, I now see that 3.0 has not have fixed the failures. I 
use popfile and it flags the mail properly and a re-filter works properly but 
it misses too often on the first pass.

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Re[4]: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Lou,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 11:38:46 AM, you wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:54:51 +, Sean Rima wrote:
 Hello Lou,

 Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:39:04 AM, you wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:02:17 -0600, John Morse wrote:

 The Bat does nothing but piss me off anymore.
 I think I'm going to try Becky, and I recommend you do to. And
 yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

 ~John

 Have a look at Pocomail. I am probably going to move to it
 instead of TB 3.0. I have found a few minor gotcha's but so far
 it is less bug laden than TB. I am still on 2.12 or so, and
 looking for alternatives. Have never heard of Becky, I will have
 a look.


 I registered Becky before I started using TB! but I cannot see
 myself going back. I have tried each new version but TB! is the
 only on

 Sean

 Thanks. I have been using TB! for several years, somewhere around
 2.0. I have always wandered back myself. If TB! would handle filters
 consistently, I would not look elsewhere. Alas, I now see that 3.0
 has not have fixed the failures. I use popfile and it flags the mail
 properly and a re-filter works properly but it misses too often on
 the first pass.

I have had no problems with filters, I belong to several mailing lists and they 
consistenly get filtered correctly.

Sean

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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Lou,

@21-Nov-2004, 06:38 -0500 (21-Nov 11:38 UK time) Lou [L] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 yes, I'm top posting... and I will not stop. Sorry.

Pease trim quotes - this has, and always had, no relevance.

 Have a look at Pocomail.
... snip
 I registered Becky before I started using TB! but I cannot see
 myself going back. I have tried each new version but TB! is the
 only on

L Thanks. I have been using TB! for several years, somewhere around
L 2.0. I have always wandered back myself. If TB! would handle
L filters consistently, I would not look elsewhere.

Well, I have hundreds of filters all of which do exactly what I ask of
them. Many of them work on multiple levels and are complex.

L Alas, I now see that 3.0 has not have fixed the failures.

I recommend that you look at this differently.

L I use popfile and it flags the mail properly and a re-filter works
L properly but it misses too often on the first pass.

Then there is something amiss with the filter you have created and not
the system running it. You could paste the filter here or in TBTech
for our advice. There's nothing wrong with TB's astonishingly good
filter system - especially in V3.

There are things in the filter system that can catch you out.
Particularly in filter ordering. If you have an earlier filter in the
system that operates on the messages then your popfile filter won't be
given the opportunity to work.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-)

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Marck,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 11:48:01 AM, you wrote:


 Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that
 insufficient trimming has been done is that the original greetings
 lines and signature remains in the quoted text.

Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

Sean


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Re: backup and purge very old messages

2004-11-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Kariem,

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:03:29 +0100 GMT (21/11/2004, 17:03 +0700 GMT),
Kariem Hussein wrote:

KH What I'd like to do now:

KH   # select a timeframe (e.g. 1 year)
KH   # backup all these messages
KH   # delete the messages from the message base

KH The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
KH per-folder-basis. I have to select keep in message base for (days) in
KH each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item).

That's the way to go. You have to indeed set this on a per-folder
basis, but once you've done it, you're through. If you are looking for
a global setting, this doesn't exist AFAIK.

Then, under Account / Properties / Mail Management / Deletion, you can
set it so that the messages are sent to an archive folder instead of
Trash.

KH It would be great to be able to search through the archives (=backups)
KH at a later stage.

You can do that with the archive folders that you create. Others use an
external program call Mailbag, which can read TB message bases, but
I've never used it.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-)

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Sean,

  A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 11:51:45 GMT +

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

 That makes two of us today within ten minutes. Marck must have had a good
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Re[2]: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-)

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Tony,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 12:39:22 PM, you wrote:

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

  That makes two of us today within ten minutes. Marck must have had a good
  days fly fishing yesterday :)

I wonder if he was poaching :)

Sean


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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Lou Yovin
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:46:40 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote

 Then there is something amiss with the filter you have created and
 not the system running it. You could paste the filter here or in
 TBTech for our advice. There's nothing wrong with TB's
 astonishingly good filter system - especially in V3.

spoken like a true moderator :) Thanks for your help.

The first 2 filters in the account are:
(header contains, Action: move) X-Text-Classification: spam
(header contains, Action: move) X-Text-Classification: lou

Certainly not complex. Most of the time, it works.

When it fails no action is taken, it stays in the account folder. Re-filtering
will  always cause the correct action. There does not seem to be a pattern,
although  it  seems  to fail more often if the account folder is open when the
mail is retrieved.   



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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Sean,

@21-Nov-2004, 12:40 Sean Rima [SR] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tony:

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

  That makes two of us today within ten minutes. Marck must have had a good
  days fly fishing yesterday :)

SR I wonder if he was poaching :)

Nah - just itchy trigger finger after banning John Morse.

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Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

2004-11-21 Thread WilWilWil


RO You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this.
RO Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor.
RO Close TB
RO Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account
RO Restart TB
RO Paste your filters back to the sorting office


Ok, I've deleted account.srb.

I've paste my filters copied before deletion. I create a new filter for known.

All work ok and I don't have this strange sub-folder anymore. 

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Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Lou,

@21-Nov-2004, 07:43 -0500 (21-Nov 12:43 UK time) Lou Yovin [L] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 ... You could paste the filter here or in  TBTech for our advice.

L The first 2 filters in the account are:
L (header contains, Action: move) X-Text-Classification: spam
L (header contains, Action: move) X-Text-Classification: lou

L Certainly not complex. Most of the time, it works.

Not complex enough I'd say.

Header contains implies that the header will always /begin/ with:

X-Text-Classification: spam

I'm not certain that your popfile headers have that strict a syntax.

It may, perhaps, work better if you were to first define a specific
Custom Header of X-Text-Classification.

Options  ..  Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'

You'll get a pop-up to define the header

  Display as: X-Text-Classification
  RFC header: X-Text-Classification
  Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
  Uncheck: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
  Uncheck:  'Display  this  field  in the scrollable part of the
  header pane'

Now your filters can be:

Header field [X-Text-Classification:] contains [spam], Action: move
Header field [X-Text-Classification:] contains [lou], Action: move

You'll find that far more reliable.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck,

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:43:28 + GMT (21/11/2004, 19:43 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Nah - just itchy trigger finger after banning John Morse.

Is that number two in the history of TBUDL or have there been more?

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

2004-11-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
 per-folder-basis. I have to select keep in message base for (days) in
 each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It
 would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders.

 Do you have any suggestions?

You could do that by searching for messages using Advanced tab in
Message Finder (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in all
accounts.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Thomas,

@21-Nov-2004, 19:56 +0700 (21-Nov 12:56 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP Nah - just itchy trigger finger after banning John Morse.

TF Is that number two in the history of TBUDL or have there been
TF more?

He is the third. He's actually still on the list, but he can only post
moderated. He's trolled here in the past - ignored moderators and been
generally rude and inconsiderate.

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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marck,

On 21-11-2004 13:43, you [MDP] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MDP Nah - just itchy trigger finger after banning John Morse.

applause.wav

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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Lou,

  A reminder of what Lou Yovin on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 07:43:38 GMT -0500

 Certainly not complex. Most of the time, it works.

  Just had look at your website. Your method of telling someone their IP
  address is rather complex. Have a look at this...

 http://www.danasoft.com/sig/m0awb.jpg

 And then get your own one here... http://www.danasoft.com/


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Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-)

2004-11-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 21 Nov 2004,
   @  @  at 11:51:45 +, when Sean Rima wrote:

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

Eeek! What a stink today on TBUDL. (-:

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RE: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Tony,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 1:39:22 PM, you wrote:

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

  That makes two of us today within ten minutes. Marck must have had a good
  days fly fishing yesterday :)

yesterday? they already smell badly, must have been last weekend.


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Re: Command line usage

2004-11-21 Thread daRkSidE
In data Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:14:23 +, David Elliott ha scritto:

 I've tried 'Run as', but I don't understand what to do. If I select a
 specific user, it replies that password field cannot be empty (and I set
 no password).
 I _never_ have a user with no password.

I think you wouldn't suggest, neither. :-)
The fact it is a home installation and I'm the only user, here.

But I think I haven't understood your suggestion about 'Run as'. If I
right-click on the shortcut icon, then 'Run as', it says Select
account user (or something like that, I'm translating from Italian)
and it lets me choose between the current user (but [X] Protect
computer from unauthorized use) and a specific user, but I have the
problem with the empty password.

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Re[2]: Mod: Untrimmed reply

2004-11-21 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Jurgen,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 1:54:39 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Tony,

 Sunday, November 21, 2004, 1:39:22 PM, you wrote:

 Darn I have been :trout: 'd :)

  That makes two of us today within ten minutes. Marck must have had a good
  days fly fishing yesterday :)

 yesterday? they already smell badly, must have been last weekend.



I can see another :trout: ing happening :vbg:

Sean

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AVG antivirus and TB

2004-11-21 Thread MFPA

Hi

Testing AVG and TB using the Eicar test string.
It's detected in at attachment but not in the body of a message.
Is this normal?

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Re: AVG antivirus and TB

2004-11-21 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 15:43:16, MFPA wrote:

 Is this normal?

Yes, since viruses normally don't come in message bodies.

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Re: AVG antivirus and TB

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MFPA,

on Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:43:16 +GMT, you wrote:

M Testing AVG and TB using the Eicar test string.
M It's detected in at attachment but not in the body of a message.
M Is this normal?

Sure. As a text string, even a real virus could not do anything.
Although I tried to paste it in here, and the mailing list server
refused it...

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Re: [thebat] Re: -=[ Rogues in SecureBat Lite 2.12 ? ]=-

2004-11-21 Thread Lou
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:58:40 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Not complex enough I'd say.

 Header contains implies that the header will always /begin/ with:

 X-Text-Classification: spam
 I'm not certain that your popfile headers have that strict a syntax.

snip

 Now your filters can be:

 Header field [X-Text-Classification:] contains [spam], Action: move
 Header field [X-Text-Classification:] contains [lou], Action: move

 You'll find that far more reliable.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will give it a try although the header is always 
the same and doing a re-filter is always successful.





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Re: AVG antivirus and TB

2004-11-21 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, November 21, 2004, MFPA wrote:

 Testing AVG and TB using the Eicar test string.
 It's detected in at attachment but not in the body of a message.
 Is this normal?

of course, message body is not sent to antivirus plugin, because You
can't be infected by it, only attachments are checked.

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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-21 Thread Henry Lefkowitz
 Hallo Henry,
 
 
 Can't be done, not with a single setting. What helps is:
   account - properties - templates - reply - check Do not use
   from name for reply-to address
 That has to be set for every account, but that won't help you when you
 pick an address from your address book that has the name added.
 A macro in a template won't help you either, since you'd need the
 macro to be rather complex to skip names for messages with multiple
 recipients. Apart from that, templates need to be set for every
 account and you'd need to adapt your existing folder and address book
 templates.
 
 When you're only problem is with mailing lists, than you'd be done
 with the account setting(s).


That worked perfectly!  Thanks!

Henry
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Can't add words to spelling list.

2004-11-21 Thread Dan Grunberg
I upgraded to new hardware that uses Windows XP Home.

I backed up my accounts, installed TheBat! on my new system, and
restored the accounts from the backup file. My accounts and messages
are all here.

I haven't been able to right-click on an underlined misspelled word
(e.g. my last name) and add it to any of the dictionaries, like I
could add words on my old system.

What did I miss?




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   MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80
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Re: question from a newbie

2004-11-21 Thread Henry Lefkowitz
 Dear Henry,
 
 I actually rather dislike replies to a person on a mailing list being
 addressed just to the list even more than the (pretty poor) habit of
 allowing TB's default of associating a person's name with the list
 address (shudder). I firmly believe that the method I (and many others
 here) use is the best of all worlds. You can see that I have replied
 to you directly and so can everyone else. Yet I still make it clear
 that the message addressed to you is not going to your email address.

To each his own, I guess.  When I check mailing list messages to see
if someone has replied to me, I know by the subject line (that is,
unless I forget what question I asked).  Also, if a person is replying
to me on the mailing list, I would hope he would begin the message by
saying, Henry.  I don't pay attention to the to line, unless I
need to check to make sure that I am replying to the correct list or
person (if it's a direct reply).  But again, that's just my own
preference.  Thanks for the suggestions, though, and this sure is a
useful list.

With peace,

Henry

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Re: Can't add words to spelling list.

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Dan,

  A reminder of what Dan Grunberg on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 11:07:41 GMT -0500

 What did I miss?

 Assuming you used The Bats! own internal backup and installed The Bat!
 fresh you'll need to install the dictionary pack as well.

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi

 HTH.


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Re: backup and purge very old messages

2004-11-21 Thread Roman Katzer
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 05:03:29, Kariem Hussein wrote:

 The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
 per-folder-basis.

Create a common virtual folder that watches all folders you have and
select a filter criterion (message older than ...). All messages created
before that date will be in that folder.

 
Regards,
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Re: backup and purge very old messages

2004-11-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Mica,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 7:02:00 AM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

  The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
 per-folder-basis. I have to select keep in message base for (days) in
 each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It
 would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders.

 Do you have any suggestions?

 You could do that by searching for messages using Advanced tab in
 Message Finder (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in all
 accounts.

This is probably the fastest on a 1 time basis although no threading
(Alt+0) should be used before selecting all (Ctrl+A) and deleting.
Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if
desired.

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To all virus code resenders (-:

2004-11-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Please do not feel singled out, (-; but all re-senders of the virus
code will be for the next 24 hours in my temporary Selective Download
filter.

The first test message, sent by Peter (Meyns), I had accepted as a such
and I responded to, but all the successive replies *quoting* the very
same virus code, I accept only as a negligence.

Please, if any sender of such messages find that something in these or
any other messages I should read, resend them after 24 hours and
*without* any virus code cited in.

It's not that I am angry. (-: I just have no time to deal with a such
mail again and again.

Thanks. (:

Mica
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Re: To all virus code resenders (-:

2004-11-21 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mica Mijatovic  everyone else,

on 21-Nov-2004 at 18:55 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

 Please do not feel singled out, (-; but all re-senders of the virus
 code will be for the next 24 hours in my temporary Selective Download
 filter.

I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, so I guess it
doesn't concern me... :)

Nevertheless, Sober.I is on the rampage since friday, and since it is the
first virus that reached me in a long time, maybe you're experiencing the
same?

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Re: To all virus code resenders (-:

2004-11-21 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 21 Nov 2004,
   @  @  at 20:10:15 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Hello Mica Mijatovic  everyone else,

 on 21-Nov-2004 at 18:55 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

 Please do not feel singled out, (-; but all re-senders of the virus
 code will be for the next 24 hours in my temporary Selective Download
 filter.

 I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, so I guess it
 doesn't concern me... :)

No. You are lucky. (-:

I have sent this message to all three TB groups, since (some of, as I
know) the violators dwell there too. (:

 Nevertheless, Sober.I is on the rampage since friday, and since it is the
 first virus that reached me in a long time, maybe you're experiencing the
 same?

Nay. It relates to a messages sent to TBTECH and here is a short
explanation: MID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], subject Re: OT:
Eicar Test, 21 Nov 2004 17:42:17 +0100.

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Re: To all virus code resenders (-:

2004-11-21 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Alexander,

On 21 November 2004 at 20:10:15GMT +0100 (which was 19:10 where I
live) Alexander S. Kunz wrote and made these points on the subject of
To all virus code resenders (-::

ASK Nevertheless, Sober.I is on the rampage since friday, and since it is the
ASK first virus that reached me in a long time, maybe you're experiencing the
ASK same?


Got that one ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) twice today coming from www.umich.edu.

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Re: Can't add words to spelling list.

2004-11-21 Thread WilWilWil


DG I haven't been able to right-click on an underlined misspelled word
DG (e.g. my last name) and add it to any of the dictionaries, like I
DG could add words on my old system.

DG What did I miss?

Maybe if you restore from a CD-Rom, your speller files have read only 
attribute, and you can append new words in them...

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Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread P.Johnson
Hello TBUDLers,

I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so
that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom
has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip
program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called
TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!), even though it
is the latest release. All new releases were installed into that
folder and the name never changed. I cannot change the name of the
folder (believe me, I tried).

My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the
following file:

---

@Echo off

Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe

Echo  
Echo  * !!  Backing up The Bat registry entries   !! *
Echo  
Echo .

if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg

if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg
start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!
echo.
if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error!  Something went wrong.  Backup not
echo successful.
if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are
echo backed up!

Echo   **
Echo   * !! Creating RAR Archive of The Bat Directory!! *
Echo   **
Echo .

if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar

C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
Files\The Bat! 

---

I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience
with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your
response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can
provide would be very much appreciated.

Thank you!

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Re: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello P.Johnson,

  A reminder of what P.Johnson on TBUDL typed on:
  21 November 2004 at 16:46:54 GMT -0600

 response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can
 provide would be very much appreciated.

 Hope I wasn't too technical in my reply to you Pat? I sent it before I
 read this.


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Re: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello P.Johnson,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 4:46:54 PM, P.Johnson wrote:

 Hello TBUDLers,

 I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so
 that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom
 has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip
 program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called
 TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!),
   ^

So is your program files located in directory below?

C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0

Is your mail directory located below the above directory so it would be
in the directory below?

C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\MAIL

I'll assume yes.

... snip

 I cannot change the name of the folder (believe me, I tried).

If you were logged out of TB and have WinXP Pro on NTFS file system you
are probably logged in as a limited user. Even if you were logged in as
Admin user I don't know if you would want to change it because TB may
not work afterwards. IIRC TB directory structure saved in other files
possibly registry which may throw things out of wack.

 My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the
 following file:

See below:

 ---

 @Echo off

 Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe

Hopefully WinRAR is installed here on your PC so you shouldn't have to
make any changes, otherwise you have to make appropriate changes. Also
I run 7-Zip backup batch file from TB program directory. IIRC 7-Zip is
a little picky on directory structure, and I'm not sure about WinRAR.
So I am SWAG'ing it. I would try batch from Program directory
C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\batch.bat which would put registry in
program directory to be latter compressed into backup file which would
be a good thing.  Otherwise you may have to run from root directory
C:\batch.bat

 Echo  
 Echo  * !!  Backing up The Bat registry entries   !! *
 Echo  
 Echo .

 if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg

Looks to see if registry backup exists.

 if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg

I would rem the above line out because you want  registry backed up
provided you are going to use the exact directory structure on new
machine, otherwise I would just use TB backup and do a clean install
with it on new machine. So just put rem in front of above 2 lines.

 start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

this backs up the registry to a file name TBbckup1.reg which is real
important for setting up later on new machine, otherwise you will have
to do a clean install. When you get the .reg file on the new machine
all you have to do is double click to put it in the registry. Remember
you may want to do a clean install with backup from TB backup utility
anyway. I am no expert here but think the only limitation on TB backup
utility is to have the same directory structure below the Mail
directory, whereas batch file backup requires both the same structure
for the program AND mail files.

Also the other thing to note here is how are you going to transfer the
backup files to the new PC. Are they hooked up on a network, or is
your mail base very small. If small then you may get away with a CD or
even a floppy. It all depends upon the size.

 echo.
 if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error!  Something went wrong.  Backup not
 echo successful.
 if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are
 echo backed up!

just an echo

 Echo   **
 Echo   * !! Creating RAR Archive of The Bat Directory!! *
 Echo   **
 Echo .

 if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar

deletes old WinRar file below the C:\email\ directory. If you are
going to use this line you will have to make sure directory structure
agrees, otherwise change to whatever you want.

 C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
 Files\The Bat!

This is the actual backup. I would assume the switches in WinRAR will
backup all files in the directory and below, and WinRar is located in
the same directory. So if your Mail directory is located somewhere
else you will have to make changes. I am going to assume your Mail
directory is located below the program directory and your backup is
going to be in the C:\email\ directory. This being the case
then change the line to the following:

C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
Files\TheBat2.0

 ---

 I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience
 with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your
 response suitable for a simpleton like me.

I don't know if I'm much help because it depends upon your directory
structure.  IIRC you may be better off just running TB backup and then
doing a clean install on the new PC using the backup file. If you 

Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Tony,
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can
 provide would be very much appreciated.

TB  Hope I wasn't too technical in my reply to you Pat? I sent it before I
TB  read this.

Tony, no, your explanation was just fine. I asked for help here in
tbudl before I heard back from you, sorry.

I'll respond via PM with the problem I am having.

Thank you!!

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Re: Can't add words to spelling list.

2004-11-21 Thread Dan Grunberg
Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:37:56 +0100 (5:37 PM EST here) WilWilWil wrote:



DG I haven't been able to right-click on an underlined misspelled
DG word (e.g. my last name) and add it to any of the dictionaries,
DG like I could add words on my old system.

DG What did I miss?

 Maybe if you restore from a CD-Rom, your speller files have read
 only attribute, and you can append new words in them...

That sounds possible. Which file names should I look for?


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Re: Can't add words to spelling list.

2004-11-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Dan,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:17:49 PM, Dan Grunberg wrote:

 Maybe if you restore from a CD-Rom, your speller files have read
 only attribute, and you can append new words in them...

 That sounds possible. Which file names should I look for?

Probably UserDic.TLX

Other possibility is if your using NTFS file system and your logged in
as a limited user.  You will have to change security so that the limited
user can modify the UserDic.TLX file.

What I did is reboot into safe mode on WinXP Pro and open Windows
Explorer for the C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Speller directory.  Right
click and select the security tab.  Check for the user name, then add
modify capabilities.

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PGP Encryption

2004-11-21 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello tbudl,

  I've got a client running TB v. 2.12 where I had to reinstall
  everything after a HD failure.  They're also running PGP 8.

  I can't seem to get the decryption to show up in the TB viewer.  It
  always does a save-as to a text file.  How do I get it to open in
  the TB viewer?

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 Steve


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Re: To all virus code resenders (-:

2004-11-21 Thread Chris

Mica Mijatovic @ 2004-Nov-21 2:54:46 PM
To all virus code resenders (-: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It relates to a messages sent to TBTECH and here is a short
 explanation: MID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], subject Re:
 OT: Eicar Test, 21 Nov 2004 17:42:17 +0100.

The MID: needs to go inside the angle brackets or else The Bat! treats
the MID as an e-mail address.

Compare
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and to
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The last two work as expected.

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Re: Macro Question

2004-11-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Michael,

@21-Nov-2004, 21:45 -0500 (22-Nov 02:45 UK time) Michael Rudnick [MR]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

... snip
MR I don't see a macro that allows me to query on the prefix. Is
MR there any way to do this?

%if:'%ABtoPREFIX''':'%ABtoPREFIX %ABtoLASTNAME':'%TOFNAME',

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Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Greg,
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so
 that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom
 has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip
 program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called
 TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!),
GS ^

GS So is your program files located in directory below?
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0

Yes.

GS Is your mail directory located below the above directory so it would be
GS in the directory below?
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\MAIL
GS I'll assume yes.

Right you are. :-)

 I cannot change the name of the folder (believe me, I tried).

GS If you were logged out of TB and have WinXP Pro on NTFS file system you
GS are probably logged in as a limited user. Even if you were logged in as
GS Admin user I don't know if you would want to change it because TB may
GS not work afterwards. IIRC TB directory structure saved in other files
GS possibly registry which may throw things out of wack.

You lost me there, sorry. I do know that I couldn't change the name of
the directory; lost all the data files and had to go back (using
GoBack).

 My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the
 following file:

GS See below:

 ---

 @Echo off

 Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe

GS Hopefully WinRAR is installed here on your PC so you shouldn't have to
GS make any changes, otherwise you have to make appropriate changes.

I have WinRAR installed in both computers now.

GS ...
GS So I am SWAG'ing it. I would try batch from Program directory
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\batch.bat which would put registry in
GS program directory to be latter compressed into backup file which would
GS be a good thing.  Otherwise you may have to run from root directory
GS C:\batch.bat

Lost in space. Sorry to be so thick. :-(

snip...

 if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg

GS I would rem the above line out because you want  registry backed up
GS provided you are going to use the exact directory structure on new
GS machine, otherwise I would just use TB backup and do a clean install
GS with it on new machine. So just put rem in front of above 2 lines.

I tried the TB backup and restore and sadly it didn't work for me,
which is why Tony's batch file transfer will be a godsend once I get
it to work. ...By now you probably know I couldn't rem something if my
life depended on it.

 start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

GS this backs up the registry to a file name TBbckup1.reg which is real
GS important for setting up later on new machine, otherwise you will have
GS to do a clean install. When you get the .reg file on the new machine
GS all you have to do is double click to put it in the registry.

All that worked very well; but the .reg file created a directory
called The Bat! and I am trying to install TheBat2.0. Anyway I
didn't get my mail program restored.

GS Remember
GS you may want to do a clean install with backup from TB backup utility
GS anyway. I am no expert here but think the only limitation on TB backup
GS utility is to have the same directory structure below the Mail
GS directory, whereas batch file backup requires both the same structure
GS for the program AND mail files.

I don't know why TB's backup  restore didn't work... maybe The Bat!
vs TheBat2.0 again.

GS Also the other thing to note here is how are you going to transfer the
GS backup files to the new PC. Are they hooked up on a network, or is
GS your mail base very small. If small then you may get away with a CD or
GS even a floppy. It all depends upon the size.

I copied the zip files to a CD, then opened it in my new computer.

snip...

 if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar

GS deletes old WinRar file below the C:\email\ directory. If you are
GS going to use this line you will have to make sure directory structure
GS agrees, otherwise change to whatever you want.

I think all is ok here.

 C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
 Files\The Bat!

GS This is the actual backup. I would assume the switches in WinRAR will
GS backup all files in the directory and below, and WinRar is located in
GS the same directory. So if your Mail directory is located somewhere
GS else you will have to make changes. I am going to assume your Mail
GS directory is located below the program directory and your backup is
GS going to be in the C:\email\ directory. This being the case
GS then change the line to the following:

GS C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as
GS C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0

In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still
change it to TheBat2.0?

 I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience
 with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your
 

Re: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello P.Johnson,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:24:09 PM, P.Johnson wrote:

 In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still
 change it to TheBat2.0?

No, try re-written batch file below. If your on WinXP Pro or Win2k log
in as an admin user. Open text editor and simply copy and paste, then
save it in:

C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 directory as TBbkup.bat.

Create a directory on the c drive as C:\email

Open command box by Start|Run|type cmd hit enter.  At prompt type the following:

cd c:\program files\TheBat2.0

type TBbkup.bat and the batch should run WinRAR from the command line.

 Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate your efforts to help, and your
 patience.

No problem the Packers just beat the Texans with a field goal with time
expiring so it is the least I can do.


--TBbkup.bat--
@Echo off
Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
Echo  
Echo  * !!  Backing up The Bat registry entries   !! *
Echo  
Echo .
rem if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg
rem if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg
start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!
Echo   **
Echo   * !! Creating RAR Archive of The Bat Directory!! *
Echo   **
Echo .
if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar
C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
Files\TheBat2.0
--TBbkup.bat--


This assumes you have WinRAR installed to C:\Program Files\WinRAR\ on
the original PC. Install WinRar on 2nd PC. Now if the WinRAR switches
are correct the compressed file should have the directory structure
within it. So all you have to do is dump the TBBackup.rar onto a CD
and de-compress it onto the new PC to the C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0
directory keeping the directory structure intact on the de-compression.
On the new PC the TBbckup1.reg file should be in the program directory
of C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0.  Open Windows Explorer to the program
directory and double click on TBbckup1.reg file.

You should now be in business on the new PC with the exact same settings
as the original.

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