Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

[kebi]

> - When several tiddlers are open those with closed content pressed at 
> right or left reveal small color bars that seem part of the content like 
> tag is not hidden. May be you need to set a minimum/maximum width for the 
> title ribbon to display only title and hide everything else


Could you please attach a screenshot showing the glitch you are 
experiencing?
This is what I get when I open all the tiddlers from the tutorial: 
https://i.imgur.com/WNHzAe2.png

- The backlinks from stream items are displayed as long numbers. While I 
> understand these are small tiddlers store the stream items, but showing 
> such numbers on source tiddlers make no sense! You should back link to the 
> host tiddler keep the stream items. Understanding those long numbers and 
> follow back is difficult.
>

In tiddly research every node tiddler has a unique ID that is indipendent 
from the parent title.
Using unique ID's for every node is better for moving/rearranging them in 
other tiddlers (the anki cards generated from tiddlywiki also use the same 
unique ID).
A way you can quicly preview the content of a reference is by hovering on 
it while pressing SHIFT.
Let me know if this works for you.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

[kebi]

You can still access the tools tiddler by navigating to $:/
core/ui/SideBar/Tools
You can also attach any tiddler you need to the sidebar by adding the tag "
$:/plugins/nico/notebook/tags/SidebarSection"

Let me know if this helped!

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 7:48:11 AM UTC+9 andrew...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very interesting! I imported a bunch of tiddlers but they don't show up 
> under "Tiddlers" because they are not tagged ".tiddler". Is there an easy 
> way to add that to all of them at once? I looked for the "Tiddler Manager" 
> that would normally be under "tools" in the right hand side bar, but don't 
> see it.
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 07:56:13 UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> Hello Kebi,
>>  Many thanks for this great app. Some minor suggestions
>>
>> - When several tiddlers are open those with closed content pressed at 
>> right or left reveal small color bars that seem part of the content like 
>> tag is not hidden. May be you need to set a minimum/maximum width for the 
>> title ribbon to display only title and hide everything else
>> - The backlinks from stream items are displayed as long numbers. While I 
>> understand these are small tiddlers store the stream items, but showing 
>> such numbers on source tiddlers make no sense! You should back link to the 
>> host tiddler keep the stream items. Understanding those long numbers and 
>> follow back is difficult.
>>
>> I assume Saq used those numbers as unique titles for hidden tiddlers 
>> store Stream items and using on their own may be only for transclusion.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 7:21 AM kebi  wrote:
>>
>>> New update v1.3!
>>>
>>> https://github.com/kebifurai/TiddlyResearch/releases/tag/v1.3
>>>
>>> *Changelog*
>>>
>>>- Updated Relink plugin to 1.10.1 
>>>
>>>- Updated Streams plugin to 0.1.15 
>>>
>>>- Updated TiddlyRemember plugin to 1.2.0 
>>>
>>>- Updated the tiddlyresearch plugin to support the new macro 
>>>"rememberp"
>>>- Updated the tiddlyresearch-reference plugin to support 
>>>transclusion blocks below single nodes (option available in the config 
>>> tab)
>>>- tiddlyresearch-reference plugin CSS cleanup
>>>- Added autocompletion test plugin (disabled by default, you can 
>>>enable it from the control panel)
>>>- Enabled toolbar editor icons (now you can use shortcuts when using 
>>>the default TiddlyWiki editor)
>>>- Updated .Keyboard Shortcuts tiddler
>>>- Updated Tutorial
>>>
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[tw5] Re: [Filters] Get "Field value" that contain spaces

[Mohamed Amin]

Thanks TW Tones for your help, appreciate it

Regards

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 1:27:15 AM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Mohammad, FYI
>
> The filter used to set msa is by default responsible for returning titles, 
> tiddler titles, 
>
> Unless it was delimited as we see in the result with the square brackets, 
> we would not know where the title began and ended, and your result would 
> not be a tiddler link in the result on screen.
>
> The Text widget is letting us see this value exactly as it is. 
>
> Rather than using set you could use wikify. 
>
> An important lesson here is that the value is not always what it seems, so 
> sometimes you need to take an additional step to ensure it is appropriate 
> for a subsequent test like a filter.
>
> \define varname() $(var)$/{{!!feildname}}
> <$wikify name=varname2 text="""<""">
> ... [all[current[addprefix] ...
> 
> Thus we wikify the value at the last moment to ensure it works inside our 
> filter.
>
> Saq,
> Interesting work around there using the select, this has some potential 
> for different use cases. Thanks for showing this.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
>
> On Friday, 2 October 2020 00:32:19 UTC+10, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>
>> Thanks a lot Saq for your quick answer,
>>
>> I've spent the last 2 hours trying and telling to myself : don't be 
>> silly, it seems very simple.
>> What I'm saying now is : may be I could figure it out in 2 days. :)
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:16:12 PM UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" select="0">
>>> <$text text=<>/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:09:14 PM UTC+2, Mohamed Amin wrote:

 Hello All,


 Suppose that I've a Tiddler called "myTiddler" with 2 fields :

1.  address1 = 14 My St.
2.  address2 = MyTown


 I need to get those values using filters, so I tried :

 <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" >
 <$text text=<>/>
 

 The Output is = [[14 My St.]]

 <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address2]]" >
 <$text text=<>/>
 

 The Output is = MyTown

 So, Why the "[[]]" is showing up in the first case? and How can I get 
 the filed value without it?

 Thanks in advance



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Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

[kebi]

> - When several tiddlers are open those with closed content pressed at 
> right or left reveal small color bars that seem part of the content like 
> tag is not hidden. May be you need to set a minimum/maximum width for the 
> title ribbon to display only title and hide everything else


Could you please attach a screenshot of the glitch you are experiencing?
I can't replicate it in Firefox/TiddlyDesktop.

- The backlinks from stream items are displayed as long numbers. While I 
> understand these are small tiddlers store the stream items, but showing 
> such numbers on source tiddlers make no sense! You should back link to the 
> host tiddler keep the stream items. Understanding those long numbers and 
> follow back is difficult.
>

You can quickly preview a reference by hovering on it while pressing SHIFT, 
you can also use the breadcums below the title to navigate to the parent 
tiddlers.
Let me know if this works for you!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[Rika Sukenik]

"
*But much more needs to be done. I for one would like to see a few
non-techy, popular video introductions to saving in node.js and with
Timimi, to be able to link to, to help first-timers get started." - David
Gifford *

^^ youtube videos will probably help a lot with reach! ^^



On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 11:16 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> As someone who is not so new...
>
>  1. No end user final apps - I think Atro means - "no or not many editions
> custom-designed to meet end-user specific needs" There are a couple of
> things for recipes, etc, but yes, there is a LOT of room for more things
> like that!
>
> 2. No easy to go documentation - I agree, much of the documentation is
> more about explaining the definitions of concepts than about How to do this
> and that. A few years ago I added some documentation for new users (a lot
> of the tiddlers from the Working with TiddlyWiki section of the Contents
> tab at tiddlywiki.com were started by me, and I did a lot of introductory
> tutorial tiddlers for my Stroll). But much more needs to be done. I for one
> would like to see a few non-techy, popular video introductions to saving in
> node.js and with Timimi, to be able to link to, to help first-timers get
> started.
>
> 3. No support for advertising - yes, this is open source, not a business,
> so that is on all of us. Stroll got a few balls rolling, and TiddlyTweeter
> should especially singled out as someone who promotes TW on social media
> (he is not the only one, but is the one whose activity I have happened to
> see the most). We need a few more champions like that.
>
> 4. Raw materials for developers - that is a good description, and I hope
> TW never loses that aspect. But we need to find a way to ease new people
> into it better, to lower the learning curve.
>
> So yeah, Atro is essentially right. It wouldn't take much to change much
> of this. But most of us are either busy at our jobs in other fields, and
> focus on using TiddlyWiki rather than tinkering with it too much (I am one
> of those), or feel our free time and our personal abilties are more in the
> area of tinkering and coming up with plugins and new ideas, than doing
> documentation and onboarding (I am not one of those). We need to convert a
> few advertising and publicizing experts to TiddlyWiki, and maybe then we
> will get there. Blessings,
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 12:56:46 PM UTC-5 rika.s...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Atro, good feedback. Sounds like you're new to Tiddlywiki, welcome!
>> I'm new too. Can you elaborate on: "The few things TW has not are: no end
>> user / final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for
>> advertising to introduce this tool to people. It seems TW is for a group of
>> developers like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final
>> product."
>>
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 7:40:01 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These
>>> days many people look for such tools.
>>> I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!
>>>
>>> * TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
>>> * TW support rich texts
>>> * TW supports bibliography
>>> * TW supports Latex (KLatex)
>>> * TW supports audio/video/images
>>> * TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or
>>> Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
>>> * TW has commenting system
>>> * TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
>>> * TW support Todos/tasks/projects
>>> * TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???
>>>
>>> The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go
>>> documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to
>>> people.
>>> It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create
>>> different things but rarely a final product.
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[TW Tones]

Atro,

The end products you speak of have being called *editions*, a whole suite 
has being published by people. 

However they often demonstrate the possibilities and have not necessarily 
evolved to increase usability.

Many other end user products have no doubt being created and implemented 
into homes, teams, work places with a larger user base than understands 
tiddlywiki. 

   - However these are for purpose solutions made by an enthusiast for a a 
   defined purpose and audience.
   - As a result you tend not to see them

To transition from a good design to a robust published solution takes a lot 
of work and effort. 

   - It's even more complex if you want to empower users to customise and 
   develop it further without learning tiddlywiki.
   - What is the incentive here?, we do not have an established sales and 
   distribution channel, 
   - I am all for free open source but sometimes it limits the 
   affordability of undertaking the development process.

Some food for thought
We can work to change this.

Tones

On Friday, 2 October 2020 00:40:01 UTC+10, Atronoush wrote:
>
> I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These 
> days many people look for such tools.
> I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!
>
> * TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
> * TW support rich texts
> * TW supports bibliography 
> * TW supports Latex (KLatex)
> * TW supports audio/video/images
> * TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or 
> Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
> * TW has commenting system
> * TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
> * TW support Todos/tasks/projects
> * TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???
>
> The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go 
> documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to 
> people.
> It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create 
> different things but rarely a final product.
>
> --Atro
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: building a list of external links from a tiddler field

[TW Tones]

Jean-Pierre Rivière

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve in the end. 

   - Is this to be in the aforementioned static tiddler template?
   - Are you trying to generate HTML? (I have some great tips if you are)


Most of Html works in its own right in tiddlers, so if you use the wikitext 
to create a link https://tiddlywiki.com/#Linking%20in%20WikiText
 it is rendered to html on your screen.

It seems to me your attempt at storing html in fields is unnecessary, I 
cant imagine a case where this is necessary.

Regards
Tones


On Friday, 2 October 2020 01:39:59 UTC+10, Jean-Pierre Rivière wrote:
>
> My aim is to build al ist of external links from the value stored within a 
> field of the current tiddler. This value is something like "C14 H1665 
> SM1113".
>
> Thanks to a lot of help from this forum, I have been avle to build a macro 
> which translate each of those word into an external link.
>
> But I am unable to go any further.
>
> The macros and filters of tiddlywiki are provided to cater for tiddler 
> titles, like the list-links widget. I can produce the complete html that 
> would achieve my goal with filters thanks to subfilter. But I have 
> discovered I cannot display that html. Some mocked attemps are below:
>
> !!! text
> <$text text="""undeux"""/>
>
> !!! wikify sur html
> <$wikify name="toto" text="""un href="#147">deux""">
> <>
> 
>
> !!! wikify sur html + wiki
> <$wikify name="toto" text="""\n\n* un\n* deux""">
> <>
> 
>
> As you can see, even wikify seems unable to make a list.
>
> What is the way of displaying puere html or a mix of tw5 + html?
>
> There is a possibility with inclusion of a field. But my field cannot be 
> included as raw. So I could process it and create an other field with the 
> terget html. But how can I create this filed automatically? I have seen the 
> action-setfiled widget, but I've been unable to trigger it when not 
> associated with a button (and there is no button). My code for this attempt:
>
> <$action-setfield field="jack" value="""html  un 
> https://meddurenos.free.fr;>deux trois 
> """/>
> <$transclude field="jack" mode="inline"/>
>
> Could I use some clever javascript to trigger the action-setfield gagdet, 
> with eventually an hidden button if need be?
>
> Abandoning that track, should I go for a macro instead? Should/could it be 
> a macro that would take as input a listed filter (use of the filter 
> operator within a filter) -- which I don't know how to do yet? Should I 
> write a javascript macro or filter to help me?
>

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[tw5] Re: [Filters] Get "Field value" that contain spaces

[TW Tones]

Mohammad, FYI

The filter used to set msa is by default responsible for returning titles, 
tiddler titles, 

Unless it was delimited as we see in the result with the square brackets, 
we would not know where the title began and ended, and your result would 
not be a tiddler link in the result on screen.

The Text widget is letting us see this value exactly as it is. 

Rather than using set you could use wikify. 

An important lesson here is that the value is not always what it seems, so 
sometimes you need to take an additional step to ensure it is appropriate 
for a subsequent test like a filter.

\define varname() $(var)$/{{!!feildname}}
<$wikify name=varname2 text="""<""">
... [all[current[addprefix] ...

Thus we wikify the value at the last moment to ensure it works inside our 
filter.

Saq,
Interesting work around there using the select, this has some potential for 
different use cases. Thanks for showing this.

Regards
Tones



On Friday, 2 October 2020 00:32:19 UTC+10, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Saq for your quick answer,
>
> I've spent the last 2 hours trying and telling to myself : don't be silly, 
> it seems very simple.
> What I'm saying now is : may be I could figure it out in 2 days. :)
>
> Thanks again
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:16:12 PM UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" select="0">
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:09:14 PM UTC+2, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>> Suppose that I've a Tiddler called "myTiddler" with 2 fields :
>>>
>>>1.  address1 = 14 My St.
>>>2.  address2 = MyTown
>>>
>>>
>>> I need to get those values using filters, so I tried :
>>>
>>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" >
>>> <$text text=<>/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The Output is = [[14 My St.]]
>>>
>>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address2]]" >
>>> <$text text=<>/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The Output is = MyTown
>>>
>>> So, Why the "[[]]" is showing up in the first case? and How can I get 
>>> the filed value without it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

[Andrew Lister]

Very interesting! I imported a bunch of tiddlers but they don't show up 
under "Tiddlers" because they are not tagged ".tiddler". Is there an easy 
way to add that to all of them at once? I looked for the "Tiddler Manager" 
that would normally be under "tools" in the right hand side bar, but don't 
see it.

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 07:56:13 UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:

> Hello Kebi,
>  Many thanks for this great app. Some minor suggestions
>
> - When several tiddlers are open those with closed content pressed at 
> right or left reveal small color bars that seem part of the content like 
> tag is not hidden. May be you need to set a minimum/maximum width for the 
> title ribbon to display only title and hide everything else
> - The backlinks from stream items are displayed as long numbers. While I 
> understand these are small tiddlers store the stream items, but showing 
> such numbers on source tiddlers make no sense! You should back link to the 
> host tiddler keep the stream items. Understanding those long numbers and 
> follow back is difficult.
>
> I assume Saq used those numbers as unique titles for hidden tiddlers store 
> Stream items and using on their own may be only for transclusion.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 7:21 AM kebi  wrote:
>
>> New update v1.3!
>>
>> https://github.com/kebifurai/TiddlyResearch/releases/tag/v1.3
>>
>> *Changelog*
>>
>>- Updated Relink plugin to 1.10.1 
>>
>>- Updated Streams plugin to 0.1.15 
>>
>>- Updated TiddlyRemember plugin to 1.2.0 
>>
>>- Updated the tiddlyresearch plugin to support the new macro 
>>"rememberp"
>>- Updated the tiddlyresearch-reference plugin to support transclusion 
>>blocks below single nodes (option available in the config tab)
>>- tiddlyresearch-reference plugin CSS cleanup
>>- Added autocompletion test plugin (disabled by default, you can 
>>enable it from the control panel)
>>- Enabled toolbar editor icons (now you can use shortcuts when using 
>>the default TiddlyWiki editor)
>>- Updated .Keyboard Shortcuts tiddler
>>- Updated Tutorial
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[tw5] Re: Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[TW Tones]

Duarte,

You can build on the basics as I suggested, one example is in the forum 
where decimal hex conversions were built from the basics.

However don't be shy using plugins tiddlywiki empty.html is a minimal 
release we expect people to install at least a few plugins.

Enjoy
Tony

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 21:41:57 UTC+10, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 12:13:40 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>>  For more advanced maths consider Evans Formula plugin or other maths 
>> plugins.
>>
>
> Funny enough that is exactly the one I am currently using since before 
> formulas were introduced.
> It has a few rough edges here and there that are expected from such 
> complex plugins, but otherwise works fairly well.
> Was just trying to get rid of it and simplify my setup by using native 
> features without relying on external plugins, but I guess I'll have to keep 
> using it.
>
> Just though my limited skills were getting in the way, but glad I didn't 
> miss anything.
>
> Thanks for the clarification
>
>
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[David Gifford]

As someone who is not so new...

 1. No end user final apps - I think Atro means - "no or not many editions 
custom-designed to meet end-user specific needs" There are a couple of 
things for recipes, etc, but yes, there is a LOT of room for more things 
like that!

2. No easy to go documentation - I agree, much of the documentation is more 
about explaining the definitions of concepts than about How to do this and 
that. A few years ago I added some documentation for new users (a lot of 
the tiddlers from the Working with TiddlyWiki section of the Contents tab 
at tiddlywiki.com were started by me, and I did a lot of introductory 
tutorial tiddlers for my Stroll). But much more needs to be done. I for one 
would like to see a few non-techy, popular video introductions to saving in 
node.js and with Timimi, to be able to link to, to help first-timers get 
started.

3. No support for advertising - yes, this is open source, not a business, 
so that is on all of us. Stroll got a few balls rolling, and TiddlyTweeter 
should especially singled out as someone who promotes TW on social media 
(he is not the only one, but is the one whose activity I have happened to 
see the most). We need a few more champions like that.

4. Raw materials for developers - that is a good description, and I hope TW 
never loses that aspect. But we need to find a way to ease new people into 
it better, to lower the learning curve.

So yeah, Atro is essentially right. It wouldn't take much to change much of 
this. But most of us are either busy at our jobs in other fields, and focus 
on using TiddlyWiki rather than tinkering with it too much (I am one of 
those), or feel our free time and our personal abilties are more in the 
area of tinkering and coming up with plugins and new ideas, than doing 
documentation and onboarding (I am not one of those). We need to convert a 
few advertising and publicizing experts to TiddlyWiki, and maybe then we 
will get there. Blessings,

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 12:56:46 PM UTC-5 rika.s...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Atro, good feedback. Sounds like you're new to Tiddlywiki, welcome! 
> I'm new too. Can you elaborate on: "The few things TW has not are: no end 
> user / final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for 
> advertising to introduce this tool to people. It seems TW is for a group of 
> developers like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final 
> product." 
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 7:40:01 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These 
>> days many people look for such tools.
>> I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!
>>
>> * TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
>> * TW support rich texts
>> * TW supports bibliography 
>> * TW supports Latex (KLatex)
>> * TW supports audio/video/images
>> * TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or 
>> Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
>> * TW has commenting system
>> * TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
>> * TW support Todos/tasks/projects
>> * TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???
>>
>> The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go 
>> documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to 
>> people.
>> It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create 
>> different things but rarely a final product.
>>
>> --Atro
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Rika,
 What I mean is TW is very powerful but there are few end user
apps/editions. For newcomers there is no good starting manual / quick start
tutorial, ...
 ...

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:27 PM Rika Sukenik  wrote:

> Hey Atro, good feedback. Sounds like you're new to Tiddlywiki, welcome!
> I'm new too. Can you elaborate on: "The few things TW has not are: no end
> user / final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for
> advertising to introduce this tool to people. It seems TW is for a group of
> developers like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final
> product."
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 7:40:01 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These
>> days many people look for such tools.
>> I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!
>>
>> * TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
>> * TW support rich texts
>> * TW supports bibliography
>> * TW supports Latex (KLatex)
>> * TW supports audio/video/images
>> * TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or
>> Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
>> * TW has commenting system
>> * TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
>> * TW support Todos/tasks/projects
>> * TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???
>>
>> The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go
>> documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to
>> people.
>> It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create
>> different things but rarely a final product.
>>
>> --Atro
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[Rika Sukenik]

Hey Atro, good feedback. Sounds like you're new to Tiddlywiki, welcome! I'm 
new too. Can you elaborate on: "The few things TW has not are: no end user 
/ final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for advertising 
to introduce this tool to people. It seems TW is for a group of developers 
like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final product." 

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 7:40:01 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:

> I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These 
> days many people look for such tools.
> I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!
>
> * TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
> * TW support rich texts
> * TW supports bibliography 
> * TW supports Latex (KLatex)
> * TW supports audio/video/images
> * TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or 
> Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
> * TW has commenting system
> * TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
> * TW support Todos/tasks/projects
> * TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???
>
> The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go 
> documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to 
> people.
> It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create 
> different things but rarely a final product.
>
> --Atro
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5 Plugin] JsonMangler v2.2.3 Released!

['Werner' via TiddlyWiki]

Oh, ok, I get it. So far, I have helped myself out with something like

<$list filter="[tag[theTag]type[application/json]search:text]">

but compareindex[] obviously provides a way through the front door. 

Great, thanks.
Werner



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Re: [tw5] Is there a way to recreate tiddlywiki.info file?

[Rika Sukenik]

Great, thanks. I had to create a new wiki directory and start the node
server from there to get the tiddlywiki.info file. However, the changes in
my html file are not reflected on the server. This makes sense since the
tiddlywiki.info file has plugin & theme info in it. Hmm, is there a way to
automatically update the .info file from the html file?

Best,
Rika Sukenik


On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:01 PM Atronoush Parsi 
wrote:

> Hello Rika,
>  You can create it manually. You can even copy paste the file from another
> wiki folder and tweek it.
>  If you have created like tiddlywiki mywiki --init server do it again and
> copy paste the tiddywiki.info into your wiki folder.
>  To know what is the content of tiddywiki.info see
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.info%20Files
>
> More information
> * https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js
>
>
> Atro
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 7:20 AM Rika Sukenik 
> wrote:
>
>> I accidentally deleted my tiddlywiki.info file & now I can't start the
>> tiddly sever. I have the following files in my :wiki directory  index.html,
>> static.css, alltiddlers.html. Is it possible to recreate the
>> tiddlywiki.info from the files I have available? I've only made a few
>> tweaks to my Tiddlywiki so it won't be catastrophic if I need to start
>> over. Else I'll count myself as lucky and continue forging ahead building
>> out my digital garden  :)
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[tw5] building a list of external links from a tiddler field

[Jean-Pierre Rivière]

My aim is to build al ist of external links from the value stored within a 
field of the current tiddler. This value is something like "C14 H1665 
SM1113".

Thanks to a lot of help from this forum, I have been avle to build a macro 
which translate each of those word into an external link.

But I am unable to go any further.

The macros and filters of tiddlywiki are provided to cater for tiddler 
titles, like the list-links widget. I can produce the complete html that 
would achieve my goal with filters thanks to subfilter. But I have 
discovered I cannot display that html. Some mocked attemps are below:

!!! text
<$text text="""undeux"""/>

!!! wikify sur html
<$wikify name="toto" text="""undeux""">
<>


!!! wikify sur html + wiki
<$wikify name="toto" text="""\n\n* un\n* deux""">
<>


As you can see, even wikify seems unable to make a list.

What is the way of displaying puere html or a mix of tw5 + html?

There is a possibility with inclusion of a field. But my field cannot be 
included as raw. So I could process it and create an other field with the 
terget html. But how can I create this filed automatically? I have seen the 
action-setfiled widget, but I've been unable to trigger it when not 
associated with a button (and there is no button). My code for this attempt:

<$action-setfield field="jack" value="""html  un 
https://meddurenos.free.fr;>deux trois 
"""/>
<$transclude field="jack" mode="inline"/>

Could I use some clever javascript to trigger the action-setfield gagdet, 
with eventually an hidden button if need be?

Abandoning that track, should I go for a macro instead? Should/could it be 
a macro that would take as input a listed filter (use of the filter 
operator within a filter) -- which I don't know how to do yet? Should I 
write a javascript macro or filter to help me?

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[tw5] Re: Linked Titles in toc-tabbed-external-nav

[Pieter-Michiel Geuze]

Thank you. I see the change in the code, and your explanation helps me 
understand how the code works with the changes that you recommended.

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Pieter-Michiel,
>
> You are using the macro $name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav", search with the 
> advanced search shadows and you find it defined in $:/core/macros/toc
>
> At the bottom you can see the definition of toc-tabbed-internal-nav
>
> \define toc-tabbed-internal-nav(tag,sort:"",selectedTiddler:
> "$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler",unselectedText,missingText,template:"")
> <$linkcatcher to=<<__selectedTiddler__>>>
>   <$macrocall $name="toc-tabbed-external-nav" tag=<<__tag__>> sort=<<
> __sort__>> selectedTiddler=<<__selectedTiddler__>> unselectedText=<<
> __unselectedText__>> missingText=<<__missingText__>> template=<<
> __template__>>/>
> 
> \end
>
>
>1. This macro calls toc-tabbed-external-nav
>2. But we see in toc-tabbed-external-nav that it appears the heading 
>is displayed using 
><>
>
>3. This toc-caption macro is defined at the top and does not give a 
>link, just the title.
>4. Lets add a link here (2) <$link to=<> >Open
>5. You will soon discover clickin Open seems to do nothing, but that 
>is because you are using toc-tabbed-internal-nav
>6. Use toc-tabbed-external-nav macro instead to open links in the 
>story and this will work if you add this link after toc-caption in 
>toc-tabbed-external-nav.
>7. <> BECOMES <> <$link 
>to=<> >Open
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 20:11:21 UTC+10, Pieter-Michiel Geuze wrote:
>>
>> I am looking at using the toc-tabbed-external-nav table of contents but I 
>> have not been able to make the the internal tab tiddler title a link. I 
>> would like the title to be a link so I can open the tiddler as external so 
>> I can then make edits.
>>
>> Please let me know what I am missing?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> [image: 2020-10-01 05_24_17-My TiddlyWiki —.jpg]
>
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Re: [tw5] Still frustrated

[PMario]

On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 1:28:12 PM UTC+2, Bob Jansen wrote:

Many of the examples in the TW documentation use what appears to be a 
> macrocall of some sort to perform the example. So you cannot see the actual 
> statements used, you can only see the result of the macrocall. Not very 
> helpful really is it. Why not just use simple statements that anyone can 
> follow after all we are after a real example to see how things are done.
>

As Joshua pointed out, that's the use of so called documentation macros. We 
needed to use them because, the "default" approach is a maintenance horror 
... and many users requested a "copy to clipboard" button.

eg: To document the action-setfield widget we used a similar wikitext code 
as follows:


```
<$button>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/tab-17494383077" 
text="$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance"/>
<$action-navigate $to="$:/ControlPanel"/>
Go to Control Panel "Appearance" tab

```

renders as:

<$button>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/tab-1749438307" 
text="$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance"/>
<$action-navigate $to="$:/ControlPanel"/>
Go to Control Panel "Appearance" tab


... and the underlying HTML is

```

Go to Control Panel Appearance tab

```

The nightmare comes now: What if I want to add a class definition to the  
button widget like so:  <$button class=test>

How many changes do I need to fix it. ...  3 ...

No it's 6 because I actually found out I should have done: <$button 
class="tc-btn-xyz">

That's the reason, why we use a macrocal for may examples. ... There should 
be only 1 "source of truth", for examples. ... because *the worst think 
that can happen is*, that the rendered code works, but the code to be used 
by the user has a typo. If I wouldn't have highlighted it, you would have 
searched for hours. ... right?

As a side effect, the "copy to clipboard" button is available for many 
examples. .. That's the one to be used. 

BUT if you open the tiddler you as a programmer will see this: 

<$macrocall $name='wikitext-example'
src='<$button class="tc-btn-xyz">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/tab-1749438307" 
text="$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance"/>
<$action-navigate $to="$:/ControlPanel"/>
Go to Control Panel "Appearance" tab
'/>

The code that will be copied to the clipboard is highlighted in light blue. 

That's confusing. But even more confusing would have been an example the 
looks right for the user, but doesn't work if you copy / paste the code, to 
test it. 

I did add a file to play with.

hope that helps
-mario


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Description: application/json

[tw5] Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[Atronoush Parsi]

I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These
days many people look for such tools.
I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!

* TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...
* TW support rich texts
* TW supports bibliography
* TW supports Latex (KLatex)
* TW supports audio/video/images
* TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or
Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)
* TW has commenting system
* TW supports Quiz / Q / flash cards
* TW support Todos/tasks/projects
* TW supports  what TW does not support authoring???

The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go
documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to
people.
It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create
different things but rarely a final product.

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Re: [tw5] Re: combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Ste]

I think the overriding factor for moodle choice is it's free! But Google 
classroom is so much better 
Get yourself a Pearltrees account (free one available you can n work as 
teams in it... and has the advantage that its yours! Here's mine 
pearltrees.com/stephenteacher). Upload your docs and collect your bookmarks 
to build up your resources. Iframe embed that into your moodle through a 
label. It looks slick. Look at my moodle you can say... People will say 
ooohhh... It Is 'in the moodle' but means you don't have to wrestle with 
the moodle apart from setting assignments which isn't too painful... Though 
I did give up trying to set up a self marking maths questions... (it's in 
there!) 
Iframe embed permalinks from your tidliwikis. This will save you much 
stress. 
Another thing I used to do was host assignment docs etc. in drop box and 
link to them from the moodle. I had a sycronisation program from 
portableapps.com (quietly install without bothering the nice IT dept) which 
copied folders from my work cloud drive to my hard drive every hour and the 
folder it copied into was my Dropbox folder so any updates to 
assignments... Spelling correction... Date change.. Clarification.. would 
be live to the students in at most an hour. 

So use the moodle but drive your content in it from external sources. 
The label is your friend :)
On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 13:39:35 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> I have to admit what you say is ture... compared to TW moodle is 
> complicated and clumpsy. 
> Preparing a course for the next semester is a drag.
> But it alllows you to organize and engage students into tasks and collect 
> their results in a very concise way.  I guess that is why the school-board 
> took this choice.
> And for me as for most of those who work in institutions who use moodles 
> it would not be the smartes carreer-option to disdain such a choice.
>
> Therefore: The idea is not to switch to moodle but to be able to feed the 
> moodle from TW and to save back courses to TW...
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 01.10.2020 um 11:57 schrieb Ste:
>
> Unless you have a cracking IT dept that has customised and tweaked the 
> moodle to make it nice my general advice would be.. Don't use the moodle.  
> Moodle is clunky and creaky and updating resources on it is a faff. 
> I tended to work round the moodle so if you add a label and press the <> 
> button you can inject html into it 
> I embedded my Pearltrees.com collections of resources and my wiki straight 
> into the moodle. 
> That way I could update both.. The students would see any changes 
> instantly / after a refresh and I didn't have to interact with the moodle 
> ever again. 
>
> Ste
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 10:45:06 UTC+1 Jan wrote:
>
>> Hello Community, 
>> Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based 
>> LearningManagementSystem. 
>> Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings 
>> advantages in learning-scenarios. 
>> To name these advantages 
>> -Authentification 
>> -GroupManagement 
>> -Activities like H5P, 
>> -Analytics 
>>
>> ...of course als TW has great advantages 
>> - Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public texts. 
>> - Searching, combining... 
>> - Beauty ;-) 
>> - the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be able 
>> to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable 
>> deployable anywhere else and for decades... 
>> (I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS quit 
>> the institution ) 
>>
>> My desire would be to merge the advantages. 
>>
>> One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content. For 
>> example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an 
>> export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university. 
>> One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW 
>> (collect, sort and combine ideas and content) 
>>
>> It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW Classic and 
>> an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It would be 
>> great to relaunch this project for the new versions. 
>>
>> What are your Ideas? 
>> Has anyone here already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows 
>> how this could be achieved? 
>>
>> Best whishes Jan 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: [Filters] Get "Field value" that contain spaces

[Mohamed Amin]

Thanks a lot Saq for your quick answer,

I've spent the last 2 hours trying and telling to myself : don't be silly, 
it seems very simple.
What I'm saying now is : may be I could figure it out in 2 days. :)

Thanks again

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:16:12 PM UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" select="0">
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:09:14 PM UTC+2, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>> Suppose that I've a Tiddler called "myTiddler" with 2 fields :
>>
>>1.  address1 = 14 My St.
>>2.  address2 = MyTown
>>
>>
>> I need to get those values using filters, so I tried :
>>
>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" >
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> The Output is = [[14 My St.]]
>>
>> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address2]]" >
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> The Output is = MyTown
>>
>> So, Why the "[[]]" is showing up in the first case? and How can I get the 
>> filed value without it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Filters] Get "Field value" that contain spaces

[Saq Imtiaz]

<$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" select="0">
<$text text=<>/>


On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:09:14 PM UTC+2, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
> Suppose that I've a Tiddler called "myTiddler" with 2 fields :
>
>1.  address1 = 14 My St.
>2.  address2 = MyTown
>
>
> I need to get those values using filters, so I tried :
>
> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" >
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> The Output is = [[14 My St.]]
>
> <$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address2]]" >
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> The Output is = MyTown
>
> So, Why the "[[]]" is showing up in the first case? and How can I get the 
> filed value without it?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>

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[tw5] [Filters] Get "Field value" that contain spaces

[Mohamed Amin]

Hello All,


Suppose that I've a Tiddler called "myTiddler" with 2 fields :

   1.  address1 = 14 My St.
   2.  address2 = MyTown


I need to get those values using filters, so I tried :

<$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address1]]" >
<$text text=<>/>


The Output is = [[14 My St.]]

<$set name="msa" filter="[[My Tiddler]get[address2]]" >
<$text text=<>/>


The Output is = MyTown

So, Why the "[[]]" is showing up in the first case? and How can I get the 
filed value without it?

Thanks in advance

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[tw5] Re: "Energy Info" macros, math operators, and fancy Toolip CSS for information details

[Charlie Veniot]

Oh poop, I had forgotten in my last reply to say thank-you for that 
superscript idea.

Of course, I find everything interesting, and I'm now wondering why there 
are certain things that I want to be jugular-grabbing attention-getters, 
and other things I prefer be very lightly-tickling attention-teasers.  
Yeah, doesn't take much for this hyperactive sponge to keep me awake at 
night ...

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:54:46 AM UTC-3, Felicia Crow wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> sorry for the late reply.
>
> As for the formatting as I said depending on your preference. I am just 
> personally more used to it, that's why I thought of it. Still great to read 
> that it could be of some use elsewhere.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Felicia
>
> On Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:17:21 UTC+2, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>> Hey Felicia,
>>
>> I decided to keep that formatting I had (i.e. the little light blue 
>> borders) as a blatant reminder that the values showing are calculations, 
>> and because I rather like the large hover area.
>>
>> However, I really like the superscript thing for "little fishy" tiddler 
>> links when I find a regular tiddler link a bit distracting when the link 
>> formatting doesn't match regular text formatting in things like table 
>> column titles.  (I put that in a separate post:  How To: Replacing 
>> manual tiddler links with transcluded little fishy links 
>>  .)
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 5:20:57 AM UTC-3 Felicia Crow wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Charlie,
>>>
>>> it is great to see your progress overall with your wiki, but especially 
>>> with macros and filters when thinking about our last conversation a few 
>>> days ago. Thanks for sharing.
>>>
>>> One suggestion: Depending on your preference of visualization you could 
>>> use the sup tag to add a superscript question mark or similar in your 
>>> output instead of the border:
>>>
>>>
>>> The affected line in your macros - A2W as example exactly the same 
>>> change with the others - would change from this:
>>> <> W
>>>
>>> To This:
>>> <> W?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Felicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 16 September 2020 04:03:27 UTC+2, Charlie Veniot wrote:

 These are things I’ve done in my “Urban Off Gridding for Laypersons 
 ”
  
 TiddlyWiki.

 G’day,

 I’ve been finding myself doing way too much arithmetic with my 
 calculator lately, mostly trying to figure out the wattage or items I’ve 
 purchased (i.e. Amps x Volts = Watts) and the cost of devices plugged into 
 AC outlets (i.e. Device Wattage x Hours x Utility Rate).

 If finally dawned on me:  why am I entering all of these amounts in 
 tiddlers (for information purposes) and entering the majority of those 
 amounts again in a calculator to then copy final totals into my tiddlers ?

 Way too much work, so I decided to learn a few TiddlyWiki things to 
 make life a little easier and the results a little prettier.  These things 
 include:

- 

Learning about basic math operators
- 

Learning about just enough CSS to setup a custom tooltip class
- 

Learning about macros
- 
   
   Pass values to the macros
   - 
   
   Do math operators
   - 
   
   Return a value wrapped with “tooltip stuff” to show information 
   related to the value
   

 Should you be interested in any of that stuff, the 4 screenshots 
 further below will let you know where to find the “goodies(?)” in my 
 “Urban 
 Off Gridding for Laypersons 
 ”
  
 TiddlyWiki .

 Cheers !

 Design Results: a value calculated via macro appears with a blue-ish 
 border, indicating that more info is available as a tooltip when the mouse 
 pointer hovers over the value.

 [image: FinalResult.png]


 The WikiText Macro call to make the “magic” happen (AmpsToWatts, first 
 parameter is Amps, second parameter is Volts, result is Watts).

 [image: FinalResultWikiText.png]


 The “Energy Info” Macros

 [image: EnergyInfoMacros.png]


 The CSS Magic for the custom tooltip (slightly modified version of the 
 “Basic 
 Tooltip" from w3schools.com 
 )

 [image: CssStylesheetForTooltip.png]











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[tw5] Re: Why is this so hard to use now?

[Chuck R.]

To share your reduced example wiki file try these options: 

Copy your `mywiki.html` file to `mywiki.html.txt`. Adding this `.txt` 
extension will allow it to be attached to nearly all forums or email 
programs so other people can download the file. Many forums will make an 
attachment with a certain file type unavailable as they may contain harmful 
code. Appending `.txt` gets around this and it works great for Outlook 
email too. Some of the commonly banned filetypes are: .pl (Perl), .docx, 
.xlsx, .html, .pdf. 

Now you can send the .txt file to cloud services like Dropbox, Onedrive, 
Google Drive, or any other drive services and send us the link to the file. 
Make sure the file on the cloud service is public so we can access it, save 
it, and take a look at it. 

Or just attach the .html.txt file to a message here in the forum. 

On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:06:54 AM UTC-4 5pcm1...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It used to be so intuitive, and now it's javascript errors or, if I fix 
> that, there's no editor toolbar?
>
> This is getting kinda sad. I have ZERO plugins, just a basic empty and 
> do-over, and it's nothing but problems.
>
> What's going on?

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[tw5] Re: Why is this so hard to use now?

[Chuck R.]

Reduced example = smallest, simplist TW file that illustrates the problem 
clearly. 

On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:06:54 AM UTC-4 5pcm1...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It used to be so intuitive, and now it's javascript errors or, if I fix 
> that, there's no editor toolbar?
>
> This is getting kinda sad. I have ZERO plugins, just a basic empty and 
> do-over, and it's nothing but problems.
>
> What's going on?

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[tw5] Re: TW 5.1.19 ignores left and right brackers [] in URL linkification

[Chuck R.]

Oh wait, maybe one cannot add brackets as part of the URL for markdown, 
because links are created with brackets, like this: [This is the link 
text](http://google.com). This is widely accepted markdown for an URL with 
link text. 


On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 9:09:54 AM UTC-4 Chuck R. wrote:

>
> I have invested a fair amount of work into a Tiddlywiki v5.1.19 but have 
> noticed, in rare occasions some websites use the left and right brackets [] 
> in an URL that produces search results, but TW does not make this into a 
> live link. The linkification stops at the first bracket it finds. The 
> tiddler in question that contains this link uses the Tiddlywiki markup 
> language. 
>
> How can I modify TW5.1.19 to include the left and right brackets, when it 
> linkifies an URL, for a TW tiddler and Markdown tiddler? Sometimes I use 
> the Markdown addin. 
>
> *Example URLS are below. *
> A Pubmed link: 
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Electromagnetic+Fields/adverse+effects%22[MeSH+Terms]
>
> An archive.org link: 
> https://archive.org/search.php?query=bubonic[]=mediatype%3A%22texts%22
>
> These brackets normally appear in the URL bar of my browser for a search.  
> Both examples above are for a search and I will sometimes use a link for 
> the search in a tiddler. 
>
> Thank you!
>

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[tw5] TW 5.1.19 ignores left and right brackers [] in URL linkification

[Chuck R.]

I have invested a fair amount of work into a Tiddlywiki v5.1.19 but have 
noticed, in rare occasions some websites use the left and right brackets [] 
in an URL that produces search results, but TW does not make this into a 
live link. The linkification stops at the first bracket it finds. The 
tiddler in question that contains this link uses the Tiddlywiki markup 
language. 

How can I modify TW5.1.19 to include the left and right brackets, when it 
linkifies an URL, for a TW tiddler and Markdown tiddler? Sometimes I use 
the Markdown addin. 

*Example URLS are below. *
A Pubmed link: 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Electromagnetic+Fields/adverse+effects%22[MeSH+Terms]

An archive.org link: 
https://archive.org/search.php?query=bubonic[]=mediatype%3A%22texts%22

These brackets normally appear in the URL bar of my browser for a search.  
Both examples above are for a search and I will sometimes use a link for 
the search in a tiddler. 

Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Using/allowing script tags for static file rendering

[Donald Coates]

SOLUTION/WORKAROUND
WARNING: this requires changing a core tiddler.  The code is there for a 
reason.  My use case is very specific in that I will only be doing this on 
a wiki that runs just to render static tiddlers.

I noticed that the rendering process for the 

Re: [tw5] Still frustrated

[Ed Heil]

Tones,

Agreed on all points.  I didn't meant to suggest that the differences between 
Tiddlywiki and other programming environments are arbitrary or random.  
Generally TW is the way it is so it can do the things it does.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, at 10:04 PM, TW Tones wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> My programming days was more in the past, but I would argue that tiddlywikis 
> approach is different for a fundamental reason of architecture. If you were 
> to build something similar in any language you would have to ensure the 
> following and it would complicate the program massively;
>  * Cause all and any change in the whole solution to flow through immediately 
> to all references to that changed item
>  * Render all visible objects when a change occurs but do so efficiently, 
> including dealing with potential loops
>  * Allow the transclusions of transclusions etc... to work and be reliable 
> and avoid loops.
>  * Now wrap the vast majority of this is an environment that is somewhat 
> accessible to almost everyone 
>  * Create not just an application but a platform which can be used to design 
> and document itself.
> In the face of these facts it is my option tiddlywiki does the best job I 
> have ever seen. Yes we want to improve documentation and teach the concepts 
> effectively to improve ease of adoption and share the concepts.
> 
> TiddlyWiki is not just a non-trivial Quine but a Quine platform.
> 
> Regards
> Tones
> 

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[tw5] Re: Using/allowing script tags for static file rendering

[Donald Coates]

Thanks Tones I have been thinking of a way to incorporate this transclusion 
with templates along the lines of the example given where a line of text is 
run through at template: `{{Transclusion||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}` .  I 
have found a work around but I would rather use something like this which 
doesn't necessarily effect the entire tiddler.
On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 8:10:15 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Donald,
>
> If you look inside $:/core/templates/static.template.html you can see how 
> the template currently does it in two ways in fact for styles;
> 
> {{$:/boot/boot.css||$:/core/templates/css-tiddler}}
> 
> 
> {{$:/core/ui/PageStylesheet||$:/core/templates/wikified-tiddler}}
> 
>
> Notice how its setting $:/boot/boot.css and $:/core/ui/PageStylesheet as 
> the current tiddler and transclude a template?
>
> In fact if you look inside $:/core/templates/css-tiddler you will see the 
> style tags in there, of note is this tiddler is unusually formatted  
>
> There should be a simple way to do this. If the style or script tags are 
> specific to a particular page ie tiddler we could make use of a field in 
> the tiddler to contain a transclusion of the style / scripts that the 
> template subsequently includes in the template, you can then choose which 
> page has which scripts.
>
> I do not have the time right now, but such a solution would possibly be 
> reusable and helpful to others.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:29:29 UTC+10, Donald Coates wrote:
>>
>> It is possible to have a tiddler with a 

[tw5] Re: Two 'simple' functions but can not work out the wikitext

[Saq Imtiaz]

>
>
> One over arching question. When I use a $list statement to produce a 
> subset of available tiddlers and then go through each in turn, does TW act 
> like a loop, for each iteration I am focussed on a single defined tiddler 
> from the subset? If so, how is this loop tiddler addressed, by 
> <> or does this refer to the calling tiddler?
>
>
Within a $list widget, it does indeed act like a loop, and currentTiddler 
is the default variable name for the tiddler in the current position in the 
loop.
You can change this by specifying a variable parameter for the list widget. 
Then currentTiddler variable can still be used to access the "calling 
tiddler".

<$list filter="[tag[Mark]]" variable="mark">


<> is the tiddler in the current position in the loop
<> is the "calling tiddler" / value of currentTiddler 
outside the list loop.





Another approach is to save the value of currentTiddler outside the list 
loop in a different variable name, and then access within the list by that 
name.

<$vars targetTiddler=<> >
<$list filter="[tag[Mark]]">



<>  is the tiddler in the current position in the loop
<> "calling tiddler" / value of currentTiddler outside the 
list loop.






To make a conditional assignment you can just wrap an action-setfield 
widget in a list widget that tests for the condition you want.
<$list filter=filter with my condtion variable="_null">
<$action-setfield 



Your filter should be one that only produces an output when your conditions 
are satisfied and otherwise produces no results.
Note that when you are uninterested in the result of the filter and only 
use it for testing conditions, and do not want it to overwrite 
currentTiddler, you can just assign it to an unused variable like *_null*

Lastly, note that the debugging widget you have includes two separate 
widgets:
*$log* and *$action-log*

$log is renderered and run when wikitext is processed, just like any other 
wikitext.
$action-log behaves like an action widget, and is only executed when 
triggered by a button widget. 
Otherwise their parameters are identical.

So use $action-log when debugging actions performed on clicking a button or 
other actions trigger.
It will only log on executing the actions, whereas $log will log even on 
opening the tiddler with the wikitext, or when it refreshes.

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[tw5] Re: Using/allowing script tags for static file rendering

[Donald Coates]

Thank you Joshua!  Though I am not sure it applies to the extremely 
specific github gist embed case, this is really useful info for the 
building of templates and will be very handy going forward.  Thank you!!

On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 7:18:10 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Tiddlywiki always "breaks" script tags rendered inside tiddlers displayed 
> in the story-river and most translcusions as a security measure.
>
> If you need the script included in the header portion of the HTML template 
> used to render the whole page, tag the tiddler with "$:/tags/RawMarkup". 
> This places the raw contents of the tiddler's text field in the header tag 
> of the template. This requires that you Save and Reload your wiki.
>
> If you use the other RawMarkupWikified tags ( $:/tags/RawMarkupWikified , 
> $:/tags/RawMarkupWikified/TopBody, etc), then tiddlywiki tries to parse the 
> text field of the tiddler so-tagged into "simple text" (stripping out HTML 
> tags, etc). In order to prevent this, use a special "pragma line" at the 
> top of the text field:
>
> `\rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline` 
>
> This restricts text-processing to only transcluded data. Also, "Note that 
> the wiki must be saved and reloaded in order for a raw markup tiddler to 
> take effect. Also note that global macros are not available by default 
> within raw markup tiddlers; you can use the ImportVariablesWidget 
>  to explicitly 
> import them."
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>   
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 8:29:29 AM UTC-7 digit...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It is possible to have a tiddler with a 

Re: [tw5] Re: combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Jan]

Hi Steve,
I have to admit what you say is ture... compared to TW moodle is 
complicated and clumpsy.

Preparing a course for the next semester is a drag.
But it alllows you to organize and engage students into tasks and 
collect their results in a very concise way.  I guess that is why the 
school-board took this choice.
And for me as for most of those who work in institutions who use moodles 
it would not be the smartes carreer-option to disdain such a choice.


Therefore: The idea is not to switch to moodle but to be able to feed 
the moodle from TW and to save back courses to TW...


Best wishes Jan



Am 01.10.2020 um 11:57 schrieb Ste:
Unless you have a cracking IT dept that has customised and tweaked the 
moodle to make it nice my general advice would be.. Don't use the moodle.

Moodle is clunky and creaky and updating resources on it is a faff.
I tended to work round the moodle so if you add a label and press the 
<> button you can inject html into it
I embedded my Pearltrees.com collections of resources and my wiki 
straight into the moodle.
That way I could update both.. The students would see any changes 
instantly / after a refresh and I didn't have to interact with the 
moodle ever again.


Ste

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 10:45:06 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

Hello Community,
Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based
LearningManagementSystem.
Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings
advantages in learning-scenarios.
To name these advantages
-Authentification
-GroupManagement
-Activities like H5P,
-Analytics

...of course als TW has great advantages
- Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public
texts.
- Searching, combining...
- Beauty ;-)
- the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be
able
to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable
deployable anywhere else and for decades...
(I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS
quit
the institution )

My desire would be to merge the advantages.

One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content.
For
example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an
export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university.
One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW
(collect, sort and combine ideas and content)

It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW
Classic and
an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It
would be
great to relaunch this project for the new versions.

What are your Ideas?
Has anyone here already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows
how this could be achieved?

Best whishes Jan





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Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hello Kebi,
 Many thanks for this great app. Some minor suggestions

- When several tiddlers are open those with closed content pressed at right
or left reveal small color bars that seem part of the content like tag is
not hidden. May be you need to set a minimum/maximum width for the title
ribbon to display only title and hide everything else
- The backlinks from stream items are displayed as long numbers. While I
understand these are small tiddlers store the stream items, but showing
such numbers on source tiddlers make no sense! You should back link to the
host tiddler keep the stream items. Understanding those long numbers and
follow back is difficult.

I assume Saq used those numbers as unique titles for hidden tiddlers store
Stream items and using on their own may be only for transclusion.


On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 7:21 AM kebi  wrote:

> New update v1.3!
>
> https://github.com/kebifurai/TiddlyResearch/releases/tag/v1.3
>
> *Changelog*
>
>- Updated Relink plugin to 1.10.1
>
>- Updated Streams plugin to 0.1.15
>
>- Updated TiddlyRemember plugin to 1.2.0
>
>- Updated the tiddlyresearch plugin to support the new macro
>"rememberp"
>- Updated the tiddlyresearch-reference plugin to support transclusion
>blocks below single nodes (option available in the config tab)
>- tiddlyresearch-reference plugin CSS cleanup
>- Added autocompletion test plugin (disabled by default, you can
>enable it from the control panel)
>- Enabled toolbar editor icons (now you can use shortcuts when using
>the default TiddlyWiki editor)
>- Updated .Keyboard Shortcuts tiddler
>- Updated Tutorial
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[tw5] Re: Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 12:13:40 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

>  For more advanced maths consider Evans Formula plugin or other maths 
> plugins.
>

Funny enough that is exactly the one I am currently using since before 
formulas were introduced.
It has a few rough edges here and there that are expected from such complex 
plugins, but otherwise works fairly well.
Was just trying to get rid of it and simplify my setup by using native 
features without relying on external plugins, but I guess I'll have to keep 
using it.

Just though my limited skills were getting in the way, but glad I didn't 
miss anything.

Thanks for the clarification


 

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[tw5] Re: Two 'simple' functions but can not work out the wikitext

[Bob Jansen]

An update.

I have noticed that if I add a <$log statement to the wikitext to try and 
debug what is going on, I expect to see two entries in the dev console but 
I see four (there are two marked artworks for the test run). Is this the 
result of trying to write twice into the exhibition tiddler in the middle 
of a $list run? Does this force two passes of the $list loop?

bobj

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 21:17:21 UTC+10 Bob Jansen wrote:

> I am trying to implement two simple functions but can not work out the 
> wikitext. Tones, I have tried following your cheat sheet but nothing I try 
> appears to work.
>
> One over arching question. When I use a $list statement to produce a 
> subset of available tiddlers and then go through each in turn, does TW act 
> like a loop, for each iteration I am focussed on a single defined tiddler 
> from the subset? If so, how is this loop tiddler addressed, by 
> <> or does this refer to the calling tiddler?
>
> This has bearing on the second of my functions, below.
>
> 
> <$macrocall 
>  $name="edit-list" 
>  tiddler="$:/TLS/exhibition_id"
>  listview="{{{ [get[exhibition_name]] }}}" 
>  filter="[tag[Exhibitions]!tag[Index]]" 
> />
> <$list filter="[tag[Mark]]">
>  
>  <$action-setfield 
>   $field="exhibition_id" 
>   $value={{{ [{!!exhibition_id}addsuffix[ 
> ]addsuffix{$:/TLS/exhibition_id}] }}}
>  />
>  
>  <$action-setfield 
>   $tiddler= {{{ [{$:/TLS/exhibition_id}] }}}
>   $field="artwork_id" 
>   $value={{{ [{!!artwork_id}addsuffix[ 
> ]addsuffix{$:/TLS/artwork_id}] }}}
>  />
> 
> 
>
> The first action-setfield correctly adds the selected exhibition_id to the 
> exhibition_id field of each artwork tiddler selected through the filter.
>
> For the second action-setfield, I am trying to append the artwork_id from 
> the current artwork tiddler selected through the filter to the artwork_id 
> field of the exhibition record determined by the exhibition_id selected 
> above. This does not work, I only see the artwork_id of the last artwork 
> record so either the append isn't working (but it is an identical statement 
> that worked in the first action-setfield statement) or I am not seeing each 
> artwork tiddler in turn, only the last one (hence my question above wrt to 
> loop processing or I can not address the tiddler whose id is stored in 
> $:/TLS/exhibition_id whilst iterating through a list of marked artwork 
> tiddlers.
>
> Also, I need to amend the action-setfield statements so that if the 
> artwork_id or exhibition_id already exist in the corresponding tiddler 
> field, then the append does not take place. I assume that I need to use a 
> conditional operator but can not work out the format of the statements. 
> Eric has provided an example of this type of processing in the past but I 
> can not find it.
>
> bobj
>

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[tw5] Two 'simple' functions but can not work out the wikitext

[Bob Jansen]

I am trying to implement two simple functions but can not work out the 
wikitext. Tones, I have tried following your cheat sheet but nothing I try 
appears to work.

One over arching question. When I use a $list statement to produce a subset 
of available tiddlers and then go through each in turn, does TW act like a 
loop, for each iteration I am focussed on a single defined tiddler from the 
subset? If so, how is this loop tiddler addressed, by <> or 
does this refer to the calling tiddler?

This has bearing on the second of my functions, below.


<$macrocall 
 $name="edit-list" 
 tiddler="$:/TLS/exhibition_id"
 listview="{{{ [get[exhibition_name]] }}}" 
 filter="[tag[Exhibitions]!tag[Index]]" 
/>
<$list filter="[tag[Mark]]">
 
 <$action-setfield 
  $field="exhibition_id" 
  $value={{{ [{!!exhibition_id}addsuffix[ 
]addsuffix{$:/TLS/exhibition_id}] }}}
 />
 
 <$action-setfield 
  $tiddler= {{{ [{$:/TLS/exhibition_id}] }}}
  $field="artwork_id" 
  $value={{{ [{!!artwork_id}addsuffix[ 
]addsuffix{$:/TLS/artwork_id}] }}}
 />



The first action-setfield correctly adds the selected exhibition_id to the 
exhibition_id field of each artwork tiddler selected through the filter.

For the second action-setfield, I am trying to append the artwork_id from 
the current artwork tiddler selected through the filter to the artwork_id 
field of the exhibition record determined by the exhibition_id selected 
above. This does not work, I only see the artwork_id of the last artwork 
record so either the append isn't working (but it is an identical statement 
that worked in the first action-setfield statement) or I am not seeing each 
artwork tiddler in turn, only the last one (hence my question above wrt to 
loop processing or I can not address the tiddler whose id is stored in 
$:/TLS/exhibition_id whilst iterating through a list of marked artwork 
tiddlers.

Also, I need to amend the action-setfield statements so that if the 
artwork_id or exhibition_id already exist in the corresponding tiddler 
field, then the append does not take place. I assume that I need to use a 
conditional operator but can not work out the format of the statements. 
Eric has provided an example of this type of processing in the past but I 
can not find it.

bobj

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[tw5] Re: Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[TW Tones]

Duarte,

The maths operators were added recently, especially since they can help in 
fairly standard cases. For more advanced maths consider Evans Formula 
plugin or other maths plugins.

The new maths operators are a powerful addition in filters etc... and for 
comparisons etc... but for more complex maths a plugin is advised, 
however you can build more advanced features on top of standard tiddlywiki 
if you now how to make use of primitive maths to produce more advanced 
results.

Regards
Tony



On Thursday, 1 October 2020 21:06:12 UTC+10, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've been looking into getting more out of the recent math formulas 
> feature in TiddlyWiki, but I've been unable to get any info about 
> exponentiation.
> Is it possible to calculate say the square of a number like 5^2 = 25 or 
> the square root of 9 = 3?
>
> There even seems to be an operator to write numbers in exponential 
> notation, but no mention of powers, squares, roots or exponents in the 
> documentation 
> 
> .
>
> Seems like a glaring omission, was this overlooked, or are there any 
> technical or performance limitations in including this?
>

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[tw5] Re: Linked Titles in toc-tabbed-external-nav

[TW Tones]

Pieter-Michiel,

You are using the macro $name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav", search with the 
advanced search shadows and you find it defined in $:/core/macros/toc

At the bottom you can see the definition of toc-tabbed-internal-nav

\define toc-tabbed-internal-nav(tag,sort:"",selectedTiddler:
"$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler",unselectedText,missingText,template:"")
<$linkcatcher to=<<__selectedTiddler__>>>
  <$macrocall $name="toc-tabbed-external-nav" tag=<<__tag__>> sort=<<
__sort__>> selectedTiddler=<<__selectedTiddler__>> unselectedText=<<
__unselectedText__>> missingText=<<__missingText__>> template=<<__template__
>>/>

\end


   1. This macro calls toc-tabbed-external-nav
   2. But we see in toc-tabbed-external-nav that it appears the heading is 
   displayed using 
   <>
   
   3. This toc-caption macro is defined at the top and does not give a 
   link, just the title.
   4. Lets add a link here (2) <$link to=<> >Open
   5. You will soon discover clickin Open seems to do nothing, but that is 
   because you are using toc-tabbed-internal-nav
   6. Use toc-tabbed-external-nav macro instead to open links in the story 
   and this will work if you add this link after toc-caption in 
   toc-tabbed-external-nav.
   7. <> BECOMES <> <$link 
   to=<> >Open
   
Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 20:11:21 UTC+10, Pieter-Michiel Geuze wrote:
>
> I am looking at using the toc-tabbed-external-nav table of contents but I 
> have not been able to make the the internal tab tiddler title a link. I 
> would like the title to be a link so I can open the tiddler as external so 
> I can then make edits.
>
> Please let me know what I am missing?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> [image: 2020-10-01 05_24_17-My TiddlyWiki —.jpg]

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[tw5] Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hi all.

I've been looking into getting more out of the recent math formulas feature 
in TiddlyWiki, but I've been unable to get any info about exponentiation.
Is it possible to calculate say the square of a number like 5^2 = 25 or the 
square root of 9 = 3?

There even seems to be an operator to write numbers in exponential 
notation, but no mention of powers, squares, roots or exponents in the 
documentation 

.

Seems like a glaring omission, was this overlooked, or are there any 
technical or performance limitations in including this?

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[tw5] Re: combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Ste]

Unless you have a cracking IT dept that has customised and tweaked the 
moodle to make it nice my general advice would be.. Don't use the moodle. 
Moodle is clunky and creaky and updating resources on it is a faff. 
I tended to work round the moodle so if you add a label and press the <> 
button you can inject html into it 
I embedded my Pearltrees.com collections of resources and my wiki straight 
into the moodle. 
That way I could update both.. The students would see any changes instantly 
/ after a refresh and I didn't have to interact with the moodle ever 
again. 

Ste

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 10:45:06 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

> Hello Community,
> Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based LearningManagementSystem.
> Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings 
> advantages in learning-scenarios.
> To name these advantages
> -Authentification
> -GroupManagement
> -Activities like H5P,
> -Analytics
>
> ...of course als TW has great advantages
> - Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public texts.
> - Searching, combining...
> - Beauty ;-)
> - the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be able 
> to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable 
> deployable anywhere else and for decades...
> (I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS quit 
> the institution )
>
> My desire would be to merge the advantages.
>
> One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content. For 
> example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an 
> export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university.
> One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW 
> (collect, sort and combine ideas and content)
>
> It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW Classic and 
> an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It would be 
> great to relaunch this project for the new versions.
>
> What are your Ideas?
> Has anyone here already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows 
> how this could be achieved?
>
> Best whishes Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Jan]

Hello Community,
Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based LearningManagementSystem.
Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings 
advantages in learning-scenarios.

To name these advantages
-Authentification
-GroupManagement
-Activities like H5P,
-Analytics

...of course als TW has great advantages
- Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public texts.
- Searching, combining...
- Beauty ;-)
- the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be able 
to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable 
deployable anywhere else and for decades...
(I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS quit 
the institution )


My desire would be to merge the advantages.

One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content. For 
example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an 
export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university.
One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW 
(collect, sort and combine ideas and content)


It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW Classic and 
an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It would be 
great to relaunch this project for the new versions.


What are your Ideas?
Has anyone here  already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows 
how this could be achieved?


Best whishes Jan





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[tw5] Re: "Energy Info" macros, math operators, and fancy Toolip CSS for information details

[Felicia Crow]

Hi Charlie,

sorry for the late reply.

As for the formatting as I said depending on your preference. I am just 
personally more used to it, that's why I thought of it. Still great to read 
that it could be of some use elsewhere.

Kind Regards,
Felicia

On Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:17:21 UTC+2, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
> Hey Felicia,
>
> I decided to keep that formatting I had (i.e. the little light blue 
> borders) as a blatant reminder that the values showing are calculations, 
> and because I rather like the large hover area.
>
> However, I really like the superscript thing for "little fishy" tiddler 
> links when I find a regular tiddler link a bit distracting when the link 
> formatting doesn't match regular text formatting in things like table 
> column titles.  (I put that in a separate post:  How To: Replacing manual 
> tiddler links with transcluded little fishy links 
>  .)
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 5:20:57 AM UTC-3 Felicia Crow wrote:
>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> it is great to see your progress overall with your wiki, but especially 
>> with macros and filters when thinking about our last conversation a few 
>> days ago. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> One suggestion: Depending on your preference of visualization you could 
>> use the sup tag to add a superscript question mark or similar in your 
>> output instead of the border:
>>
>>
>> The affected line in your macros - A2W as example exactly the same change 
>> with the others - would change from this:
>> <> W
>>
>> To This:
>> <> W?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Felicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 16 September 2020 04:03:27 UTC+2, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
>>> These are things I’ve done in my “Urban Off Gridding for Laypersons 
>>> ”
>>>  
>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> G’day,
>>>
>>> I’ve been finding myself doing way too much arithmetic with my 
>>> calculator lately, mostly trying to figure out the wattage or items I’ve 
>>> purchased (i.e. Amps x Volts = Watts) and the cost of devices plugged into 
>>> AC outlets (i.e. Device Wattage x Hours x Utility Rate).
>>>
>>> If finally dawned on me:  why am I entering all of these amounts in 
>>> tiddlers (for information purposes) and entering the majority of those 
>>> amounts again in a calculator to then copy final totals into my tiddlers ?
>>>
>>> Way too much work, so I decided to learn a few TiddlyWiki things to make 
>>> life a little easier and the results a little prettier.  These things 
>>> include:
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Learning about basic math operators
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Learning about just enough CSS to setup a custom tooltip class
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Learning about macros
>>>- 
>>>   
>>>   Pass values to the macros
>>>   - 
>>>   
>>>   Do math operators
>>>   - 
>>>   
>>>   Return a value wrapped with “tooltip stuff” to show information 
>>>   related to the value
>>>   
>>>
>>> Should you be interested in any of that stuff, the 4 screenshots further 
>>> below will let you know where to find the “goodies(?)” in my “Urban Off 
>>> Gridding for Laypersons 
>>> ”
>>>  
>>> TiddlyWiki .
>>>
>>> Cheers !
>>>
>>> Design Results: a value calculated via macro appears with a blue-ish 
>>> border, indicating that more info is available as a tooltip when the mouse 
>>> pointer hovers over the value.
>>>
>>> [image: FinalResult.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> The WikiText Macro call to make the “magic” happen (AmpsToWatts, first 
>>> parameter is Amps, second parameter is Volts, result is Watts).
>>>
>>> [image: FinalResultWikiText.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> The “Energy Info” Macros
>>>
>>> [image: EnergyInfoMacros.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> The CSS Magic for the custom tooltip (slightly modified version of the 
>>> “Basic 
>>> Tooltip" from w3schools.com 
>>> )
>>>
>>> [image: CssStylesheetForTooltip.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Opening tiddlywiki always scrolls down to particular tiddler?

[demon...@gmail.com]

Haaa it worked!

I noticed that I had the *Stroll *addon which made its own history list and 
story lists etc. I checked its "$___sq_Stories_Story2HistoryList.json.meta" 
file and it had this "current-tiddler" line there. It did not reference to 
my problematic tiddler, but I deleted it anyway. And boom! No more 
scrolling!

Thank you Joshua and everyone else :)

-DW 
On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 2:42:49 AM UTC+3 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> It may be related to that bug, good catch. If so... find the 
> tiddler-text-file for "$:/HistoryList" and open it in a text editor.
>
> The text field will be JSON content, and it will have a title and type 
> field, but there will also be a "*current-tiddler*" field. DELETE that 
> line entirely.
>
> Restart your server. See if that changes anything. That field may have 
> been written to when you converted the wiki, but is then never synced to 
> the new browser-context value. At least, that what it sound like.
>
> Best,
>
> Joshua Fontany
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:22:09 PM UTC-7 scarab...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This might be related to the syncing of $:/StoryList bug:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4868
>>
>> It might be going back to a saved version of the StoryList. I could be 
>> wrong, but perhaps take a look at my ticket from earlier for how I worked 
>> around that:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/MvHY_eelsuQ
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 1:23:13 AM UTC-7 demon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tones!
>>>
>>> - Default tiddlers include only the story, nothing else. 
>>> - My bookmark takes to the main story view. 
>>> - Nope, just a standard journal tiddler. Just a bunch of text in bullet 
>>> points. Only tag is "September". 
>>> - I could not find any tiddlers tagged with any of the start-up tags or 
>>> raw tags (as per https://tiddlywiki.com/static/SystemTags.html)
>>>
>>> Could it be on the server side? I have very little experience with it...
>>>
>>> -Petri
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 1:54 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>>>
 DW

 Some questions to ask yourself.

- What is in the default tiddlers?
- Are you using a bookmark/favourite that includes the tiddler in 
the link?
- If the particular tiddler is a system one let us know
- Check start-up and raw tags for possible causes, look at the 
content of the tiddlers so tagged

 I may think of more

 Tones

 On Monday, 28 September 2020 17:52:12 UTC+10, demon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> This is starting to annoy me more than it should. So, after converting 
> my standard tiddlywiki to a nodejs server, every single time I open my 
> tiddlywiki it scrolls my view down to a particular tiddler. I can just 
> close the tiddler, that's not a problem, problem is that I don't know 
> WHAT 
> is making this and I want to know! What can be the cause of this?
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