Re: Ubuntu iso

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 07:14, Jerry Geis  wrote:

> I am remastering the DVD. No issues there.
>
> Is there a way to remove the /pool directory on the ISO?
> When I do that, remaster, and use the iso to boot, I get errors - about
> not finding packages.
>
> I "desire" to install "everything" over the internet-  I want to remove
> the /pool directory to save space...  How can I do that and let the
> installer be happy ?
>

 With the current installers there needs to be a package repository on the
ISO but it could be empty I suppose, something that can be arranged with a
hint of apt-ftparchive?

Cheers,
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Question: what to do when GitHub code works but Ubuntu package doesn't (same version)

[Michael Jeltsch]

Dear Ubuntu Developers,
I am an end user scientist of Ubuntu at the University of Helsinki,
Finland. We use the FigTree program (figtree, graphical phylogenetic tree
viewer) for our work and we install it from the Ubuntu repositories
(Science, universe). We published recently some of our findings, mentioning
that we used FigTree for the visualization (
https://doi.org/10.1007/s10456-023-09874-9). However, we always needed to
export to PDF and then convert to SVG to do our work because the direct
export to SVG always failed. However, we know that the GitHub code of the
same 1.4.4 version works when downloaded directly from GitHub. Therefore it
should be possible to fix the Ubuntu package. I also do not know whether
the issue still exists in the newer packages. We are always staying on the
latest stable LTS (atm 22.04), because our projects stretch over many years
and changing major version numbers has been a problem in the past...

Any feedback is appreciated.
Regards,
Michael

Michael Jeltsch, Associate Professor in Pharmaceutical Protein Drug Research
Drug Research Program, IndiviDrug Research Program, Helsinki One Health,
Helsinki Institute of Sustainability & Wihuri Research Institute
University of Helsinki
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Re: 23.04: desktop iso peculiarity compared to the live-server one

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 13:59, Michael Hudson-Doyle <
michael.hud...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 11:38, Adam Vodopjan 
> wrote:
>
>> Mby you're the correct person to report another issue with install images.
>> Since 21.04 the boot/grub/loopback.cfg in live-server is broken: the
>> 'iso-scan/filename=' piece is gone.
>>
>
> Argh that was an unintended consequence of removing 'quiet' from the
> default kernel command line. This should fix it:
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/debian-cd/+git/ubuntu/+merge/445395
>

So this should be fixed in the next mantic and jammy dailies. Thanks for
the report!

Cheers,
mwh

>
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Re: 23.04: desktop iso peculiarity compared to the live-server one

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 11:38, Adam Vodopjan  wrote:

> Mby you're the correct person to report another issue with install images.
> Since 21.04 the boot/grub/loopback.cfg in live-server is broken: the
> 'iso-scan/filename=' piece is gone.
>

Argh that was an unintended consequence of removing 'quiet' from the
default kernel command line. This should fix it:

https://code.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/debian-cd/+git/ubuntu/+merge/445395

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Re: 23.04: desktop iso peculiarity compared to the live-server one

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 10:24, Adam Vodopjan  wrote:

>
> THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, is: was it intentional to not set the default
> layer in initrd in the desktop iso case?
>
>
I don't think we ever got around to discussing it properly. I think the
desktop ISO should be changed to do things the same way as the server ISO
does, for the same sort of reason you talk about (although my motivation
for the server ISOs was mostly to make netbooting easier, it's the same
thing really).

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gprename in the repo needs updated

[Michael Cowell]

Can someone update the program called gprename in the universe repository?
It is a quite old version and the new version is very good.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gprename/

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Re: Building initrd for custom ISO

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 03:06, Renato Botelho do Couto 
wrote:

> I'm working implementing support for a hardware that requires one kernel
> change to have console working.  I already built a custom kernel that
> solves the problem and have console working.
>
> Now next step is to build a custom ISO containing this kernel so it will
> be able to boot and run installer on fixed console.  I understand I need
> to build a custom initrd and copy it to /casper on ISO but I couldn't
> find any documentation about how to do it.
>
> If anyone knows the steps to do it please let me know
>

You should be able to use https://github.com/mwhudson/livefs-editor to do
this. There's no direct support for replacing a kernel with a hand built
one but it should be a start...

Cheers,
mwh


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Re: Increasing user base of Ubuntu desktop.

[Michael Loftis]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 10:09 Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Please, folks, if you want something idiot prove to use, pay much money
> for Apple hardware and software! If you are willing to read the fine
> and easy to understand manual and you don't need professional grade
> {,nice} software, but you also don not want to become a power user/geek,
> then use a Linux distro such as an Ubuntu flavour.

I use both Apple and PCs.  I use OSX, Linux, and Windows.  Throughout
the day.  I've no allegiance to Apple OSX, Windows/PC, nor Linux/PC.
I'm here to debunk the BS myth of (for at least the last 20 years)
Apple being more expensive.  tl;dr; it isn't, unless your only concern
is cost of entry/hardware cost.  Apple flat out doesn't sell low spec
machines and doesn't try to compete in the bottom of the respective
segments where there's far less profit and a far worse user experience
from the hardware due to it being too anemic to do the tasks asked of
it.

The long rant version:

Apple hardware is only maybe barely more expensive when you compare
the actual specifications. When you add in form factor (ultra thin
compared to ultra thin for example) then the gap is usually completely
closed, and often even in Apple's favor.  Let's look at Dell vs. Apple
laptops.  Compare the Dell Inspiron line to any of Apple's laptops and
it looks like Apple is gouging you when the only thing you look at is
the cost.  Look at the specifications.  There's nothing in the
Inspiron line that can compete with the compute power and battery life
of the Apple Air (even BEFORE the M1).  When Apple was still using x86
the battery life wasn't nearly as much of a factor at the "raw" specs
level, but you still had to step up into the mid-high tier to get the
same CPU in a Dell as you would a Apple Air, MB, or MBP., which
usually ruled out the Inspiron (budget) lineup entirely, and
definitely does today.

Today there’s no Apple equivalent for example to a Dell Inspiron at
$300. You cannot get an apple laptop with only 4Gb of RAM, 128GB NVMe
and a 4 core CPU. Comparing the cheapest Apple laptop at $1000 (the
MacBook Air) you have to step up to XPS or Alienware laptops. Both of
those starting at about $1000 and $950, with the alternate being a
better deal for performance but not truly comparable with the Air nor
the MBP because both of those are far more portable and lighter than
the Alienware laptops.  The Alienware will likely have as good or
better graphics performance as the Air, but, isn't comparable, it's
comparing an ultra-thin to a more "full size" laptop, Integrated vs.
Discrete graphics (though the M1 does close the gap pretty
significantly here)

Against the XPS at $1k the Air spanks the crap out of it except for
weight (2.8lbs for the Air, 2.6 for the XPS)  Better battery life due
to a smaller silicon process node, and a more efficient, far higher
performance CPU and Integrated GPU.  Oh you can get a touch screen in
the XPS (gag) so the XPS has that.  To get into the same performance
category as the Apple Air in Dell's XPS line You're looking at
~$1600+.  Which you end up with probably the XPS 13" (non Touch) "New
XPS 13" i7-1195G7 your minimum RAM is 16Gb and a 512Gb NVMe.   So a
couple upgrades to the base Apple Air M1 to make the RAM and NVMe
match...aaand your Air is $1400.  $200 cheaper.  Oh and that
top-of-the-line-for-the 13" New XPS still underperforms the M1 in the
Air (not by an awful amount, except in all-cores performance, where
the i7 is half).

And sure Ubuntu (or really any Linux desktop distro) would be much
more responsive user experience on such an anemic spec as the cheapest
Inspiron but that’s not what Dell or Apple sell. It’s Windows or OSX.

And THAT is also why Windows has much bigger market penetration. It’s
pre installed on the cheapest of devices, without regard to the user
experience, to capture more market share for the hardware
manufacturers.

Apple doesn’t even try to capture the low end. You’re going to have a
crappy experience with either modern mainstream desktop OS no matter
whose hardware if you’re only going to get 4Gb of RAM and 128Gb of
storage and integrated graphics. (Lowest priced Inspiron) - to get
those kind of low end specs for a PC from Apple you’re looking at iPad
lineups, which isn’t a PC but a well spec’d tablet.

It’s because of this decision to not capture the low end and thus not
sell what is considered tablet specs as a full PC that gives the
impression of higher cost. In reality when they were still x86 and you
could more easily compare I found price difference was usually $100,
sometimes in Wintel/PC favor, sometimes in Apple’s favor for the
better price.

It’s harder to get a direct comparison now, the M1 in the Air actually
outperforms the Intel i5-1135G7 in the $1000 XPS across the board.
It’s also faster than the available XPS 13” upgrade to the i7! (Which
puts its price at $1330)

Apple has no form factor equivalent to the Alienware.  And since going
to M1 chips they no longer 

Re: Add a ca root to ca-certificates in WSL environment?

[Michael Loftis]

No special magic for the WSL Ubuntu install.  You just apt-get install
ca-certificates on the WSL Ubuntu environment command line, drop the
pem certificate(s) in file(s) in /etc/ssl/certs, run
update-ca-certificates (as root, use sudo) and you're done.   Just
make sure the pem's are globally readable. The new certificate(s) will
be included in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt and all system
packages use that as their trusted root certs, pretty sure it'll also
add the hash symlinks too.  That decade (and a bit) old IR is long,
long, long closed.  This will NOT affect any Windows based stuff.

If you need to have it packaged then you'll have to do your own
package, with a post-install hook.  You shouldn't be
replacing/overriding the ca-certificates package.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 6:36 PM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm working on a Windows machine with Windows Subsystem Linux (WSL).
> The machine hosts Ubuntu 20.04. We are having some TLS problems due to
> an interception proxy. I need to add a CA root to the ca-certificates
> package or store.
>
> I checked the Ubuntu wiki and found one article on ca-certificates at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2011-09-20-ca-certificates-removes-libnss3.
>
> I'm Ok with dropping the root CA in the filesystem and running
> c_rehash, if needed. I'm happy to use the method if that is
> recommended.
>
> My question is, how would I go about adding a root CA to the machine's
> trusted root store?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Release vmlinuz and initrd alongside iso

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

Hi,

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 02:19, MonkZ  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> currently enabling booting via ipxe (https://ipxe.org/) over http needs
> a dedicated mirror that has vmlinuz and initrd extracted from the iso.
>
> Would it be possible to release those files - already extracted from the
> iso - alongside those very isos?
>

This is something we should do, yes. I've created an internal ticket to
look into it (after failing to find the one I was *sure* already existed)
-- I personally am not very familiar with the relevant bits and pieces.

Cheers,
mwh


> This would enable ubuntu to create one iso, that can boot every version
> available directly from one usb stick or pxe server.
>
> #!ipxe
> dhcp
> set http-server https://releases.ubuntu.com
> kernel
> http://${http-server}/ubuntu/21.10/ubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso.vmlinuz
> initrd
> http://${http-server}/ubuntu/21.10/ubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso.initrd
> imgargs ubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso.vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
> ramdisk_size=300 boot=casper ip=dhcp netboot=url
> url=http://${http-server}/os/ubuntu/21.10/ubuntu-21.10.x-desktop-amd64.iso
> boot || shell
>
> Something similar is done by Arch Linux. But they included the Let's
> Encrypt Root Certificate too, to enable boot via https, and they
> chainloaded a menu from their mirror to just have one iso or usbstick
> image to work indefinitely, as the critical information, what to boot
> would be loaded after the boot of ipxe.
>
>
> Regards
>
> MonkZ
>
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Re: Impact of removing ubuntu-server metapackage

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 10:55, Matthew Smith  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I have a handful of applications that will run on a ubuntu 20.04 server
> install. I want to be able to manage core files that could be generated if
> any of those applications crash using systemd-coredump. I noticed that when
> I install systemd-coredump, it removes apport and ubuntu-server. Both
> systemd-coredump and apport provide "core-dump-handler" so systemd-coredump
> and apport have a conflict which results in apport being removed. Since
> ubuntu-server has a dependency on apport it's removed when apport is
> removed.
>
> The description of ubuntu-server says:
>
>  This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu Server system
> .
>  It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended
> that it not be removed.
>
>
> I am wondering exactly how ubuntu-server is related to ensuring proper
> upgrades. If I choose to use systemd-coredump and ubuntu-server gets
> removed as a side effect, will that cause trouble if I want to upgrade or
> dist-upgrade at some point in the future?
>

The main thing is that you won't get any packages that have been added to
Ubuntu server in the new version. For example multipath-tools got added to
the default install between 18.04 and 20.04 -- if ubuntu-server is still
present on the system, upgrading will cause multipath-tools to be
installed, if the metapackage has been removed then it won't.

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Ubuntu -fcf-protection=full breaking code

[michael Bostwick]

Any idea why
Overriding the default flags to include -fcf-protection=full breaks ipxe,
and other tooling not coded to work around it as can be seen on github:
https://github.com/ipxe/ipxe/commit/e8393c3728bf7073d033410373ef6781549c7c3e#commitcomment-46894324

There is an easier and more straightforward work around (preferred CFLAGS
within the package build), why not use that ?
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Re: autoinstall network question

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 02:23, Jerry Geis  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:42 AM Jerry Geis  wrote:
>
>> On my boot line for append I have biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0 (using
>> 20.04 LTS).
>> append  initrd=/casper/initrd debian-installer/local=en_US autoinstall
>> ds=nocloud;s=/cdrom/  quiet splash biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0 ---
>>
>> After the auto install I have no network.
>>
>>  network:
>> network:
>>   version: 2
>>   ethernets:
>> eth0:
>>   dhcp4: yes
>>   dhcp-identifier: mac
>>
>> This is my network section.
>>
>> So now I do "dmesg | grep eth" and it says enp1s0 is the network.
>> Why is that ? I told the kernel to use eth0 type names ?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>
>
> Ok - so I discovered that while I boot autoinstall with the "biosdevname=0
> net.ifnames=0" - this does NOT - automatically get set during the install
> and then reboot.
>

It will if you put it after the --- characters.

Cheers,
mwh


> If I login and manually add them to the /etc/default/grug file and reboot
> it works.  So question then is how do my "late-commands" - update the
> /etc/default/grub ?
>
> I found an example where it using /target and curtin in-target --target
> /target update-grub - - --- WOW - can I not do "chroot /target" and just
> have normal commands ?
>
> Jerry
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Re: Disable File Checking Boot Parameter

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 01:27,  wrote:

> Hello
>
> I need to boot a Ubuntu LiveUSB multiple times a day. Each time, I have
> to remove the "maybe-ubiquity" from the kernel parameters and the side
> effect is that I would not be able to skip the .deb files check which
> lasted quite long for each boot (Pressing Ctrl-C does nothing). Is there
> a boot parameter I can pass to disable this checking?
>

fsck.mode=skip on the kernel command line should do it.

Cheers,
mwh


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Upcoming Breaking Changes and Roadmap for urllib3 v2.0

[Seth Michael Larson]

Hello, I'm Seth lead maintainer of urllib3.

Since urllib3 (packaged as python3-urllib3) is a dependency of many
packages I wanted to make our downstream users aware of upcoming changes.
Our team is planning on releasing a v2.0, the first release with
compatibility-breaking changes in over 9 years.

Here are the highlights:
- Dropping support for Python 2.7 and 3.5
- HTTPS connections will default to TLS 1.2+
- Dropping support for commonName field on certificates
- Support for Static Type Checking via Type Hints

More information on the v2.0 Roadmap and v2.0 Milestone on GitHub:
- Roadmap: https://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/v2-roadmap.html
- Milestone: https://github.com/urllib3/urllib3/milestone/6

Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
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Re: installation kit modified during installation

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 01:25, Doru Georgescu  wrote:

> Short version:
>
> Byte 480 of the Ubuntu desktop 20.04.1 LTS installation kit has been
> modified during installation. Is this by design?
>

Yes, the logs of the installation process are now written to the USB stick
by default. I guess the change you see at byte 480 is the change to the
partition table.


> Detailed version:
>
> I use to create my usb stick install kit with:
>
> # dd if=downloads/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdd
> and it worked for me.
>
> I also use to verify the install kit before and after install with:
>
> # cmp downloads/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdd
> and this also worked for me until now. It exits with end of file error,
> because the kit is shorter than /dev/sdd.
>
> Now, however, for the first time, there is a difference after install at
> byte 480, line 4.
>
> The kit has been created on a compromised system.
>
> However, I have doubts that it has been modified by malicious code.
>
> So I ran:
>
> # mount /dev/sdd1 mnt
> # mount -o loop ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso mnt1
> # find mnt/ -exec bash -c 'file={}; cmp $file ${file/mnt/mnt1}' \; | grep
> differ
> and found no difference, only that cmp does not compare directories.
>
> # lsblk -fm /dev/sdd
> NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE%
> MOUNTPOINT  SIZE OWNER GROUP MODE
> sdd  iso966 Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS amd64
> │ 2020-07-31-16-51-12-00
> 7,2G root  disk  brw-rw
> ├─sdd1
> │iso966 Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS amd64
> │ 2020-07-31-16-51-12-00
> 2,6G root  disk  brw-rw
> ├─sdd2
> │vfat C26E-047E
>3,9M root  disk  brw-rw
> └─sdd3
>  ext4   writable
>   a83a9b1c-36cb-4312-9aba-0359f74c0374
> 4,7G root  disk  brw-rw
>

This writable directory was created during installtion.


> What could be the cause? Should I worry about this?
>

No :)

Cheers,
mwh


> Also aked here:
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1269405/installation-kit-modified-during-install-is-this-a-security-issue
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Re: pam 1.1.8-3.6ubuntu2.18.04.2 packaging issue

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 06:39, Arnold Czeman (aczeman) <
arnold.cze...@oneidentity.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a little problem with the newest version of pam source package on
> Bionic.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/1.1.8-3.6ubuntu2.18.04.2/
> I would like to import to a git repo with gbp tool, but this package seems
> to have
> a wrong a package format.
> The earlier version of this package were non-native debian packages, they
> had extra
> archives which name match a *.diff.gz or a *.debian.tar.* pattern. They
> had
> two component version string (where a '-' concatenates the upstream
> version and the
> debian version).
>

Right, the package should be non-native. But for some reason it is. All
versions in bionic since release have been native though.


> The current version of this pam package has no extra archives, so it seems
> to be a
> native debian package, but it cannot be native package because it has a
> wrong version
> string format for this package format.
> I have found a description of the debian source package formats here:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What_is_the_difference_between_a_native_Debian_package_and_a_non-native_package.3F
> I have also checked the gbp tool source code, and it seems to be a
> compatible one with
> this description.
>
> Could you please make a correct version string if you want this will be a
> native package, otherwise
> please generate a *.diff.gz or a *.debian.tar.* archive, just like an
> older version of this
> package!
>

It's back to non-native in focal and groovy. It might make sense to fix it
to be non-native in the next SRU, but it doesn't seem worth performing a
SRU just for this to me.

Cheers,
mwh


> If I can help anything, please let me know!
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Arnold Czeman
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libnfsidmap2 libnfsidmap-dev

[Michael Barkdoll]

Hello,


Can someone please update package libnfsidmap2 and libnfsidmap-dev to v0.26:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/systemd/general/libnfsidmap.html


NFSv4 user and group mapping is not working properly with sec=krb5 without it.

https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/freeipa-us...@lists.fedorahosted.org/thread/SIA6J7IZRWX2FVGHKMS5F3HB7DE3MCFC/


"There was a bug fixed in 0.26-rc4 which used wrong '@' sign to detect NFS 
domain. There was also a bug fixed past 0.27 release which prevented 
multi-domain setup working. I guess you are affected by the latter bug."


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Keepalived?

[Michael Baker]

Hey all,

IS there a plan on a new release of keepalived? Given there is a moderate CVE 
attached to it now.

Michael Baker
Infrastructure Engineer and Automation Specialist
Bulletproof - Mission Critical Cloud

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Re: Just some observations on first time install of 18.10

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 10:45, Jim Pye  wrote:

> All
>
> Not bugs, but some observations on the new installer of Ubuntu 18.10 Server
>
> Using .iso in a VirtualBox VM on a Mac
>
> Not sure of the etiquette of attaching screen shots, but have them if
> needed.
>
> 1. Getting to step 7 of 11 in the install, screen showing choice of snaps,
> I noticed the install was continuing in the progress bar at bottom of
> screen, cool. However, as I was looking for things like Apache, Puppet etc.
> The install completed, so when I pressed done it took me directly to the 11
> of 11 screen, the Install Complete! screen and I am not sure what I missed
> on screens 8, 9, and 10 (maybe choosing install of Apache which is not
> snapped yet?)
>

Hmm, I've not seen that. You didn't miss anything though, there are no
screens after the snap screen :)


> 2. On screen 11 of 11 there were two "Reboot Now" options in the choice of
> three, the other being "View Full Log".
>

https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1783119 -- I can't reproduce this
one either though (it's actually possible this and the previous one are
related).


> 3. After rebooting I was presented with the Login prompt after all the
> usual startup.  However, before I could enter my details there seemed to be
> a lot (nearly two screenfuls) of additional output from services starting,
> stopping and restarting, ssh keygen stuff etc. which meant the login prompt
> scrolled off and was hidden/gobbled up.  As this was ssh keys etc. I assume
> this was a once only effect, but it might need a bit more tidy up in the
> startup dependency area before the bash login prompt is displayed.
>

https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1778226


> As I said not bugs, just observations.
>

Cheers,
mwh


> Kia Ora
> Jim
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[fix included] found bug package in xdg-utils

[Michael Hass]

found bug in package in xdg-utils:

apt-cache policy xdg-utils
xdg-utils:
  Installiert:   1.1.2-1ubuntu2.2
  Installationskandidat: 1.1.2-1ubuntu2.2
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 1.1.2-1ubuntu2.2 500
    500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main
amd64 Packages
    500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386
Packages
    500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64
Packages
    500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main i386
Packages
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1.1.2-1ubuntu2 500
    500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
    500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages


--> procedure:
root:/xdg-mime query default inode/directory
/usr/bin/xdg-mime: 946: local: icewm-: bad variable name

Line 946 of  /usr/bin/xdg-mime shows:
local prefix=$(echo "$desktop-" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')

the "-" at the end of $desktop is wrong.

If you take it away to get
local prefix=$(echo "$desktop" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')

Everything works fine again:
root:/xdg-mime query default inode/directory
nautilus-folder-handler.desktop





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Re: libv8-3.14-dev

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On 18 May 2018 at 21:58, jaroslav.svoboda 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is there a reason why libv8-3.14-dev and libv8-3.14 packages are not
> available for arm64 (particularly in Bionic)? I read there was an issue few
> years ago when V8 did not recognized ARMv8 but that should be fixed by now.
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/arm64/libv8-3.14-dev just does not
> exist even though search links there.
>
>
v8 *3.14* is very old and I think does not support arm64. My understanding
is that v8 moves too quickly to be sanely packageable in either Debian or
Ubuntu.

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RE: Samba CVE-2018-1057

[Michael Hall]

Hi James,

The latest package for xenial appears to be 
4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.13, which means it uses the original 
upstream 4.3.11 sources *plus* patches from Ubuntu. This is standard 
practice for Ubuntu release, where you don't get upgraded to new 
versions of your packages, but you do get security fixes applied to 
them.


You can download the Ubuntu packaging source here: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/samba_4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.13.debian.tar.xz


In that, under the /debian/patches/ directory, you will see the patches 
that fix CVE-2018-1057.

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:17 AM, James Boland <james.bol...@unipart.io> 
wrote:
Sorry Nish, I didn’t realise it was already patched. The newest 
ubuntu package was reporting Samba version 4.3.11 whereas Samba.org 
had 4.8.0 released. I wasn’t aware these were two separate tracks. 
My bad.


Cheers,
James

-Original Message-
From: Nish Aravamudan <nish.aravamu...@canonical.com>
Sent: 20 March 2018 20:32
To: James Boland <james.bol...@unipart.io>
Cc: Ubuntu Core developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Samba CVE-2018-1057

Hi James,

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:30 AM, James Boland 
<james.bol...@unipart.io> wrote:

 Hi there,



 Are there any plans to upgrade the current Samba package to mitigate
 again the recent security bug in CVE-2018-1057 ?


https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-1057.html

Thanks,
Nish


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Re: Golang Package.

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

It's up to date in Bionic. If you want a newer release in an older Ubuntu,
there is this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gophers/+archive/ubuntu/archive
or you can use the snap (snap install --classic --channel 1.10/stable go).

Cheers,
mwh

On 22 February 2018 at 11:36, Mike Lloyd  wrote:

> Hey team. I've noticed the golang package is always several major releases
> behind. What is the process for getting this package updated? I'd like to
> help if I can.
>
> Mike.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
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Re: 64bit Motherboards are a minefield of config problems

[Michael Loftis]

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:11 AM, Paul Smith  wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 08:37 +0800, Jesse Steele wrote:
>> Generally, installing Ubuntu on 32 bit machines has been no problem.
>> However, different 64 bit motherboard manufacturers have different
>> native BIOS settings, many of which create problems for installing and
>> booting to Ubuntu.
>
> Maybe you can give some examples of what kinds of problems you mean.
>
> I've been running GNU/Linux distributions of all types exclusively on
> 64bit systems for probably 15 years or more and I've NEVER found a
> motherboard or BIOS that gave me any problems.  Your message sounds like
> many motherboards won't work with Linux and you have to search carefully
> to locate a compatible one.  That's definitely not been my experience.

I'd second that...having installed as 64-bit using Ubuntu, Debian,
RedHat, RHEL, Fedora, FreeBSD, Solaris, Illumos, SmartOS (Illumos
kernels), and more across many different motherboards and
vendors...Gigabyte, ASUS, Dell, SuperMicro, Tyan, and some others I'm
forgetting, I've yet to run into anything that's 64-bit specific.  The
issues are generally around "new" hardware (storage controllers,
ethernet controllers) and associated drivers rather than anything to
do with 64-bit, when there are issues at all.

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Re: git workflows for general Ubuntu development

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

On 15 November 2016 at 01:51, Robie Basak  wrote:

> On the server team, we've been working on a process that uses git to do
> our "Ubuntu merges". As a consequence, we now have a mechanism that can
> import package histories into git on Launchpad. We think that this work
> opens up a bunch of new possibilities, such as for drive-by contributors
> submitting merge proposals entirely through git.
>

This is pretty exciting! Do you think your work will fulfil the goals of
the UDD project or is there still some stuff that's out of scope?


> We'll be talking about our work tomorrow, as part of the Ubuntu Online
> Summit. The session page is at
> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22710/git-based-merge-workflow/
> and is currently scheduled for 2016-11-15 18:00 UTC. Times may change,
> so be sure to check the schedule tomorrow.
>
> I originally wrote about this in August 2014
> (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-August/038418.html).
> We've come on a long way since then. Our automated git imports preserve
> histories. Where relevant, Ubuntu packages are correctly parented from
> their Debian origins. We hope to start running this live soon, which
> will import package uploads into our git trees as they happen rather
> than on-demand. Once this is live, anyone will be able to easily clone
> from the "current" Ubuntu packaging git trees, which we think is useful
> in itself.
>
> If you're interested, we'd love your feedback. What are your use cases?
> What sort of workflows would you like to see? You can see some further
> notes of ours as they form in the pad on the session page linked above.
> What have we missed?
>

The two questions I have (which are touched on but not afaics really
answered in the notes are) 1) how does this work if I already maintain the
packaging for some package in git? 2) what about dgit?


> Note that developer time, as always, is limited. We've developed what we
> have so far to speed up our own work. Our use cases are probably quite
> different from non-core contributors. Possibly enabling the drive-by
> contribution use case is a happy consequence. Volunteers able to work on
> additional things are welcome to join us. However I am specifically
> looking for things we can tweak without much effort that will help
> others. I regret that we don't have the time to take on a big project
> that doesn't benefit our own use cases. So please understand that if you
> make a proposal that involves significant developer work, it is unlikely
> to happen unless you also find developers to volunteer their time to
> work on it.
>
> At the UOS session we'll be able to discuss this in real-time on Google
> Hangouts and concurrently on IRC. But our time in the session is limited
> to one hour, so replying to this thread to first distill any
> conversation would be helpful if possible.


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Re: Outdated arduino package?

[Michael Hall]

If you are on 16.04 I have a Snap package of the Arduino IDE 1.6.9 I can
share with you. I'm working on getting it into the snap store.

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On 07/23/2016 11:02 AM, Starbeamrainbowlabs wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm emailing to ask about the official arduino package in the Ubuntu
> repositories. It's currently at version 1.0.5, yet the latest version on
> the arduino website is version 1.6.9. It looks like this package hasn't
> been updated since ~May 2013.
> 
> I looked at setting up my own ppa on launchpad and repackaging the
> arduino IDE myself, but instructions I found were so horrendously
> complicated and mentioned so many things that I hadn't heard of (and I'm
> fairly confident in a terminal) I've given up :(
> 
> Is it possible to have the arduino package in the official Ubuntu ppa
> for xenial updated please? If not, I'm open to having another go at
> packaging it myself, but I currently can't find any tutorials out there
> that explain the process adequately.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Starbeamrainbowlabs (keybase.io/sbrl <https://keybase.io/sbrl>)
> 
> 

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Re: snapd contribution license

[Michael Hall]

On 06/14/2016 11:42 PM, thgntlmnfrmtrlfmdr wrote:
> Hi guys, let's talk about snaps. There seems to be a problem with the
> snapd contributor's license
> agreement: 
> https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/ff2478d1-Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I_v1.2.pdf
> 
> "2.3 Outbound License
> Based on the grant of rights in Sections 2.1 and 2.2, if We
> include Your Contribution in a Material, We may license the
> Contribution under any license, including copyleft,
> permissive, commercial, or _*proprietar*y_ licenses. As a
> condition on the exercise of this right, We agree to also
> license the Contribution under the terms of the license or
> licenses which We are using for the Material on the
> Submission Date."
> 
> As you can see, it seems to allow Canonical to relicense any
> contribution to snapd under a closed source license. In other words, it
> doesn't seem to be copyleft at all, since Canonical can take it out of
> the open source ecosystem at any time apparently.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the license isn't permissive either, since only
> Canonical can relicense stuff. Thus is appears to be a nonfree license.
> 
> Am I reading this wrong? What is going on here?
> 
> 

That is not a correct reading of the CLA. The ability to license
something as non-open in the future doesn't change the fact that what is
currently released is open. Technically if somebody is the sole
copyright holder on a project they always have this ability, even if
they released it under the GPL without a CLA. The open licenses in
almost all cases are perpetual, which means you can't revoke the open
license on existing code, only change it for future code. Nor are CLAs
something uncommon for open source projects, the FSF uses them,
OpenStack uses them, and many many more.

Please don't let yourself get pulled into FUD about the CLA. To date
Canonical has only ever open sourced projects that had started out
closed, never the opposite.

Michael Hall
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Re: Make main directories accessible using English names in the terminal on a Chinese localized UI

[Michael Loftis]

You could also just create a symlink.

On Friday, May 13, 2016, darn urash  wrote:

> Hi,
> There's a problem haunting me for years that If I choose Chinese as UI
> language, the main directories (Documents, Downloads, etc…) are also
> translated. It makes harder for me when I want to 'cd' those directories in
> the terminal, because I have to type them in Chinese.
>
> There's a little trick can fix this, but it makes directories
> untranslated:
> export LANG=en_US
> xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update
> export LANG=zh_CN
>
> Is it possible that Ubuntu could be just like it's in as OS X, that even
> if those directories are translated, you also can access them using their
> English names in the terminal?
> Thanks.
>


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Re: Feature Request

[Michael Hall]

Hi Jaden,

I'm glad you've got an interest in improving the user experience of
Unity. We have some instructions written up to help people get started
contributing designs, you can read them here:
http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/design/

I would also encourage you to join the #ubuntu-unity IRC channel on
freenode and discuss your ideas with the developers, who can give you
insights into what implementation considerations you will need to think
about in putting together you final design.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 03/24/2016 11:22 AM, Jaden Peterson wrote:
> Hello, I have a request for a feature in Unity. Could you make an option
> in the dconf to have a separate bar for the menus under the window
> decorations. Personally, I like the already existent functionality of
> hovering over the window decorations, revealing the menu. However, for
> desktops or devices with large displays, it would be nice to use that
> space and have the menu's more accessible.
> 
> 

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Re: [PATCH] Please fix squid3 bug #3769 and squid3 trusty package bug 1405351 in trusty

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

Hi, thanks! I've reformatted the patch and put it in my PPA. Could you
please fill out the test case and regression potential sections of the
bug report? I don't know enough about squid3 to do that.

Cheers,
mwh

On 24 March 2016 at 03:21, Lukas Erlacher  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there was no bug so I made one:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1561007
>
> Best,
> Luke
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Search for maintainer of rhythmbox-ampache

[Michael]

Hi there,

I'm looking for the maintainer of the package "rhythmbox-ampache". The
original maintainer according to the package info 

Original-Maintainer: Charlie Smotherman <cj...@cableone.net>

is no longer reachable under that address (cj...@cableone.net (after
RCPT TO): 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not
exist.)

Greets,
Michael



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Systemd on Ubuntu

[Michael Parchet]

Hello,

Is it possible to install systemd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit or should I 
upgrade Ubuntu ?

Thanks for your answer

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Re: libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Michael Parchet]

Hello,

Which libreoffice stable version could I install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit ?
It seems that libreoffice last version is 5.04. If is a stable version please 
tell me how to install it on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS if possible throw a papa

Thanks for your support

Best regards

mparchet 

> Le 20 déc. 2015 à 01:58, Alberto Salvia Novella <es204904...@gmail.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> Michael:
>> Could you help me please ?
> 
> How?
> 
> If there's a bug because of using experimental software, how could we help 
> you?
> 
> 

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Re: libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Michael Parchet]

> Le 20 déc. 2015 à 17:58, Alberto Salvia Novella <es204904...@gmail.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> Michael Parchet:
> > Which libreoffice stable version could I install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
> > 64 bit?
> 
> The one in the official repositories?
> 
> Yes, the official ppa Libreoffice 5.0

Not this ppa seen not contains libreoffice 5.04

Is it possible to put libreoffice 5.04 in this ppa ?

Thanks for your support 

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libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Michael Parchet]

Hello,

I have installed libreoffice 5.0.3 on  ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit throw the
libreoffice official ppa.

It seems that libreoffice crach when I try to use pdfimport like this

Open libreoffice 5.03
chose file open
chose a pd on my disk and try to opef

Actual result

Libreoffice crach, show an error message and reovery documents

Could you help me please ?

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Re: Can we have a sunset filter effect in Unity, KDE, and Compiz

[Michael Hall]

On 11/13/2015 10:44 AM, John Moser wrote:
> I'd like to see a configuration option to uniformly reduce the blue
> channel in the desktop during certain hours.  It's ugly, but people have
> had good results on other OSes with fading the screen to red-orange as
> it nears their bedtime, using applications such as F.lux.  This prevents
> the brain from staying awake and excited, or so goes the hypothesis.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 

There is a package called 'redshift' which will do this, you can set it
to run in your user session at startup.

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Re: mod-gearman

[Michael Loftis]

You'll have about a million times better luck either on a Nagios list
or if there's one for the development of the module you've got.  The
Ubuntu list is very unlikely to have anyone who can help you and since
your issue is clearly specific to those packages it would be a much
better effort to go ask them instead of here.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Cleuson Oliveira
 wrote:
>
> Hello, I installed the German module, but I'm having some difficulties. When
> I insert the line into the nagios.cfg the nagios web insterface stops
> working.
> The following scenario:
>
>
> event_broker_options=-1
> broker_module=/usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o
> config=/usr/local/etc/mod_gearman/mod_gearman_neb.conf
>
>
>
> --> Where the mod_gearman.o is installed -->
> /usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o
>
> --> Where are * .conf -->  /usr/local/etc/mod_gearman/mod_gearman_
> mod_gearman_neb.conf mod_gearman_worker.conf
>
>
>  -->status --> grep mod_gearman /usr/local/nagios/var/nagios.log
>
> [1445449221] Error: Could not load module
> '/opt/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o' -> /opt/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [1445449221] Error: Failed to load module
> '/opt/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o'.
> [1445449387] Error: Could not load module
> '/usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o' ->
> /usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o: undefined symbol:
> check_result_list
> [1445449387] Error: Failed to load module
> '/usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o'.
> [1445450370] Error: Could not load module
> '/usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o' ->
> /usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o: undefined symbol:
> check_result_list
> [1445450370] Error: Failed to load module
> '/usr/local/lib/mod_gearman/mod_gearman.o'.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what that might be?
>
> thanks
>
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> Grato
> Cleuson de Oliveira Alves
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> http://www.hugoazevedo.eti.br/html/com_sis.html
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Rosegarden 15.10

[D. Michael McIntyre]

Rosegarden (package 'rosegarden') would like to draw your attention to 
the 15.10 release.  Packaging considerations shouldn't have changed 
much, if at all, and this is the most stable release we've turned out in 
quite a few years.


https://sourceforge.net/projects/rosegarden/files/rosegarden/15.10/rosegarden-15.10.tar.bz2/download
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add OpenSpades to Ubuntu Software Center

[Jaron-Michael]

Please add openspades to the ubuntu software center.

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Re: Green hard disk drives

[Michael Loftis]

Smartd documents -n by itself as no-fork (normal for systemd/upstarted
stuff) but you also need to configure nocheck whichconfusingly is
documented as -n POWERMODE -- man smartd for more on possible
POWERMODE values.I do not know if the manual is inaccurate as I
have NOT checked, just RTFMed.  There's also a configuration option
for how many checks it can miss before waking a drive.

I'm not sure that the default should be to add powermode stuff.  You
might be able to add it even with a dpkg-reconfigure, I've literally
done no further investigation as to the option, setting it etc.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 Update:

 1.

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1484497/comments/6

 2.

 Running ps aux I found  /usr/sbin/smartd -n.

 [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ man smartd
   [snip] smartd  will  attempt  to enable SMART monitoring on ATA
   devices (equivalent to smartctl -s on) and polls these and SCSI
   devices every 30 minutes (configurable) [snip]

 My Arch Linux doesn't run smartd. I don't remember if it already was
 installed when the issue appeared for the Wily install or if I installed
 it after I noticed the issue. It might not be the original culprit, but
 seemingly is at least one culprit.

 I started a test a few minutes ago.

 Regards,
 Ralf


 Further information:

 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# ps aux | grep smart
 root   879  0.2  0.0  25240  2760 ?Ss   14:55   0:00 
 /usr/sbin/smartd -n
 [snip]


 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl -l status smartmontools.service
 ● smartd.service - Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology (SMART) Daemon
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/smartd.service; enabled; vendor 
 preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Mon 2015-08-24 14:55:29 CEST; 47s ago
  Docs: man:smartd(8)
man:smartd.conf(5)
  Main PID: 879 (smartd)
CGroup: /system.slice/smartd.service
└─879 /usr/sbin/smartd -n
 [snip]
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], state written 
 to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.SAMSUNG_HD321KJ-S0MQJ9AQ308387.ata.state
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], state written 
 to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.SAMSUNG_HD502HJ-S26EJ9FZ100925.ata.state
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], state written 
 to 
 /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD20EZRX_00DC0B0-WD_WMC300753067.ata.state


 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl -l status smartd.service
 ● smartd.service - Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology (SMART) Daemon
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/smartd.service; enabled; vendor 
 preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Mon 2015-08-24 14:55:29 CEST; 58s ago
  Docs: man:smartd(8)
man:smartd.conf(5)
  Main PID: 879 (smartd)
CGroup: /system.slice/smartd.service
└─879 /usr/sbin/smartd -n
 [snip]
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], state written 
 to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.SAMSUNG_HD321KJ-S0MQJ9AQ308387.ata.state
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], state written 
 to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.SAMSUNG_HD502HJ-S26EJ9FZ100925.ata.state
 Aug 24 14:55:32 moonstudio smartd[879]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], state written 
 to 
 /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD20EZRX_00DC0B0-WD_WMC300753067.ata.state


 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl stop smartmontools.service
 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl stop smartd.service
 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl disable smartmontools.service
 Synchronizing state of smartmontools.service with SysV init with 
 /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install...
 Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install disable smartmontools
 insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `smartmontools' 
 overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
 insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (1 2 3 4 5) of script 
 `smartmontools' overrides LSB defaults (1).


 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# systemctl disable smartd.service
 Removed symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/smartd.service.


 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# ps aux | grep smart
 root  1314  0.0  0.0   8208   936 pts/0S+   14:58   0:00 grep 
 --color=auto smart


 The test that is running:

 [root@moonstudio weremouse]# echo;date;t=10800;y=$(smartctl -A /dev/sdc|grep 
 Lo|awk '{print $NF}');sleep $t;x=$(smartctl -A /dev/sdc|grep Lo|awk '{print 
 $NF}');printf \n$(uname -rm)$(lsb_release -d|cut -f2 -d:|cut -f1 
 -d()\n$x-$y=$((x-y)) spins in $(($t/60/60)) hours\n\n;date

 Mon Aug 24 15:00:50 CEST 2015

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Re: Wubi

[Michael Hall]

Modern Windows releases broke Wubi, so we stopped shipping and
supporting it a while back. As far as I know it's a dead-end now.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 08/21/2015 05:13 AM, Alan Pope wrote:
 Hey,
 
 Is wubi still a supported way of installing? If so, who maintains it?
 
 Seems we have some bugs [1] including one fairly serious one [2] which
 causes the wrong version of Ubuntu to get installed.
 
 I was told wubi (installer) was to be replaced by a simpler wubi which
 is just a menu. This doesn't seem to have happened. If we don't plan
 on fixing these (new user) facing issues, is it time to retire wubi
 from the images?
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 
 [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi
 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/1471344
 

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Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

[Michael Loftis]

Maybe try a little harder to ID the process causing the wakeup?  Have
you tried looking for blocked processes at the moment you hear the
drive start to spin up?  Look for processes in D state at the time the
drive is spinning up.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 Thank you,

 unfortunately it doesn't help.

 On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:12:23 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote:
I'm not sure if I understood your issue correctly, but I also have a
server with a mechanical disk which periodically spins, don't know why.

There are tools like powertop or so, but I guess you already tried
that. I think I also did and it didn't help.

Maybe try Linux (kernel) IRC channel?

 It's not a server, just an install from a server ISO, because this
 was the minimalist install I could find.

 I want that the green drive spins down, I don't want that buggy
 software wakes up the green drive. The drive should stay asleep.

 I'm used to Arch Linux, I don't want an OOTB install with tons of
 unwanted default configs and unwanted packages. Arch and Ubuntu are the
 most used distros for audio productions, so to contribute to Linux
 audio, it would be useful to have an Ubuntu install parallel to my Arch
 install.

 Now the problem is, that I can't find the package that does cause the
 issue. My drive stays asleep when using Arch Linux! IOW there
 already must be some package installed for Ubuntu Wily, that I don't
 want to have installed.

 It's not kernel related, it must be some disk monitoring, that's why
 GVFS never is installed on my systems and that's why for testing
 purpose I removed a few packages, such as udisks2 from the Ubuntu
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Re: Windows type shortcuts to files and folders

[Michael Spencer]

I believe Ubuntu has something similar to a Windows symbolic link in that
it jumps to the destination folder as if you had gone directly to that
folder, unlike a symbolic link, which is treated as its own path.

You can do this using a .desktop file. An example of this is the Examples
shortcut that comes with a default install of Ubuntu. Removing the
translations, it looks like this:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Link
Name=Examples
Comment=Example content for Ubuntu
URL=file:///usr/share/example-content/
Icon=folder

When I click on this desktop file in the Files app, it jumps right to
/usr/share/example-content, instead of displaying the original path to the
file.

This may or may not work with individual applications, but at least the
concept should be similar.

Hope this helps,
Michael

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:29 AM Johan Kriel j...@hotmail.co.za wrote:

 No you are wrong!!! The way shortcuts work in Windows is totally
 different from Ubuntu's symbolic links. Windows also have what they call
 a Junction which do exactly what Ubuntu's symlinks do. But Windows
 shortcuts DOES NOT create a symbolic path to the destination. It is a
 simple jump to the destination as if you have typed cd /destination in
 a terminal. Both shortcuts and junctions are useful, but they have
 different purposes and you can not replace the one with the other. The
 problem I have with Banshee is because I have to use symlinks where I
 really need shortcuts.

 Regards
 Johan Kriel


 On 14/07/2015 15:06, Sam Bull wrote:
  On Sun, 2015-07-12 at 15:51 +0200, Johan Kriel wrote:
  Please guys, seriously consider the implementation of shortcuts as used
  by Windows in Ubuntu. Those shortcuts are of real good use and they
  don't create unnecessary extra symbolic paths to any folder. They are a
  simple direct jump to another folder somewhere on your disc.
  Shortcuts are the equivalent of symbolic links. There is no functional
  difference.
 
  It sounds like the issue is that you have Banshee searching areas that
  you don't want it to. If the symlinks are outside the Music folder, then
  you just need to make Banshee only searches the Music folder.
If the symlinks are inside the Music folder, then it'll create an
  endless loop when searching through the folder. I can't imagine any
  reason for doing this, so if they are in the Music folder, then perhaps
  explain what you're trying to achieve with them (or maybe there's an
  advanced setting in Banshee to stop it following symlinks).


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Re: Account Management / Shared Secret Generator

[Michael Titke]

On 12/06/2015 12:23, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:

Just use https://lastpass.com/ works fine for me, is cross-platform,
cross-browser, and cross-mobile.

Looks like a lot of on-line marketing but I still was not able to find 
the source code. Do you really want me to buy something blindly just to 
then look at the source? No, don't tell me they won't let me look at the 
source at all. ;-(


Do they really want me to use something with n features which I could 
replace with n times fifty lines of trusted user adaptable System Scheme 
code?



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Account Management / Shared Secret Generator

[Michael Titke]

I propose to include my Internet account password creation scheme into 
the current account / password / keychain management systems on Ubuntu.


Whenever you would like to do something very very important you probably 
will need a new password for subscribing to a mailing list, creating 
another online account and else. After some password you start to 
develop a scheme on how to easily create new passwords but it remains 
daunting. The password storage and retrieval is already done by Firefox, 
Thunderbird, Key Chain and Account Managers but the password creation is 
still left to the user who - as a matter of fact - only needs to 
memorize his master password.


To fill the gap I have written a small command line utility in Guile 
Scheme which serves my needs. For those interested I attached the 
program. But I would like to see this feature incorporated into the 
existing solutions in the open source world. An excerpt from the source 
code:


Human Typable Shared Secret (System Scheme)

This implementation creates a human typable shared secret
especially for protecting online accounts and it should be used in
conjunction with keychains or password managers. It is defined to
not use certain special characters which are known to be difficult
to find if the keyboard layout in software doesn't match the actual
inscriptions on the keys. It is designed to be usable with
secondary backups. Its shared secrets have the property of being
hard (but not impossible) to communicate by oral speech. They are
also hard to memorize especially when you can look at them only for
a short time. There might be other algorithms based on the
knowledge of the syllable structure of common western (and perhaps
other) languages that could produce secure /master passwords/ not
be held within keychains and password managers.

Please note the other password creation scheme mentioned: Apple's Mac OS 
X features such a tool (system settings - accounts - change password 
- the little password helper panel). Maybe there are other ways to do 
this without blindly copying existing solutions. Secondary backup refers 
to the no no of paper backups.


Comments welcome!
#!/usr/bin/guile -s
!#

;;
;; mti's Crypto Sweet: Human Typable Shared Secret (System Scheme)
;; (make-passwd.scm)
;;
;; Functional Programming seemed to be orthogonal to system
;; programming where data is passed in /pipelines/ and similar
;; concepts.
;;
;; This software is in the Public Domain as granted by the original
;; author.
;;
;; This implementation creates a human typable shared secret
;; especially for protecting online accounts and it should be used in
;; conjunction with keychains or password managers. It is defined to
;; not use certain special characters which are known to be difficult
;; to find if the keyboard layout in software doesn't match the actual
;; inscriptions on the keys. It is designed to be usable with
;; secondary backups. Its shared secrets have the property of being
;; hard (but not impossible) to communicate by oral speech. They are
;; also hard to memorize especially when you can look at them only for
;; a short time. There might be other algorithms based on the
;; knowledge of the syllable structure of common western (and perhaps
;; other) languages that could produce secure /master passwords/ not
;; be held within keychains and password managers.
;;
;; The magnitude of the space of distinct shared secrets is high
;; enough to be considered secure with current authentication routines
;; in use on the Internet. For the original implementation with 65
;; characters and 12 positions it should be: (expt 65 12) which is
;; greater than
;;
;;   (expt 64 12) = (expt (expt 2 6) 12) = (expt 2 72)
;;
;; You can improve it by adding your own preferred special
;; characters. TODO: It should take a command line argument
;; representing the length of the desired shared secret.
;;
;; Please consider changing the shared secrets (Soup of Letters) to
;; your needs: sometimes they force you to use special characters in
;; passwords although real randomness - as employed by this
;; implementation - allows shared secrets without them. Do not change
;; this implementation but add the needed characters to the final
;; shared secret yourself at some random position. A further useful
;; adaption would be insert spaces but beware that they might be
;; difficult to read on secondary backups.
;;

;; No abbreviations here: I want to see the characters.
(define *characters*
  (append (string-list ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)
  (string-list abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
  (string-list 1234567890)
  (string-list !,.)))
(define *number-of-characters* (length *characters*))
(define *length-of-password* 12)

(display make-passwd: number-of-characters: )
(display *number-of-characters*)
(display ; shared secret size: )
(display *length-of-password*)
(newline)


(define (throw-dices randomness-port)
  (let throw-dices ((n *length-of-password*))
(if (= n 

Re: Account Management / Shared Secret Generator

[Michael Titke]

On 11/06/2015 17:50, Jim Cobley wrote:
Unfortunately all my own computers (Linux -- Debian, Ubuntu etc  
Windows), my work computers (Debian, Windows) and Phones (Android, 
Symbian) all need to have all my passwords handy (on second thoughts 
my Android phone can't have any knowledge of all my passwords because 
it is really owned, monitored and operated by Google!)


We all have that feeling when it comes to big G and their intentions to 
conquer the world via www, bad tech and camera mounted cars ;-) Funding 
is everything ... and nice primary colors like Windows.


Security technologies like password managers or keychains will always 
only be as trustworthy as the devices.



The problem I can see is that the only common factor is me! That will 
limit the number and complexity of any passwords to those I can 
mentally generate and remember.




That means the user should be free to choose whether to use automatic 
password creation and management or not.



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Updating the libnice Package

[Michael McConville]

Hi, everyone.

The libnice package for 15.04 is currently on version 0.1.4-1. The
latest release, 0.1.13, builds without issue and passes all 'make check'
tests on my laptop running Xubuntu 15.04 amd64.

I care about this because I'm a GSoC student helping work toward
Pidgin's 3.0 release. For that to happen, the Farstream package will
need to be updated. Libnice is the only dependency of the latest
Farstream release whose apt package is not sufficiently recent on 15.04.

Here's the project page, with a link to the Git repo:

https://wiki.freedesktop.org/nice/

I'm not subscribed, so please cc me.

Thanks for your time.

Michael

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South East Linux Fest UbuCon

[Michael Hall]

Hello Ubuntu Developers!

Ubuntu is sponsoring the South East Linux Fest this year in Charlotte
North Carolina, and as part of that we will have a room to use all day
Friday, June 12, for an UbuCon.

http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/

I'm recruiting speakers to fill an hour-long slot, if anybody is willing
and able to attend the conference and wants to give a presentation to a
room full of enthusiastic Ubuntu users, please let me know. Topic can be
anything Ubuntu related, design, development, client, cloud, using it,
community, etc.

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Re: Unity window layout

[Michael Hall]

Chrome has a setting to use the system window decorations, which puts
the window controls on the left.

The main reason not to move it is because of the way Unity merges the
window title bar with the top panel for maximized windows. When that
happens, your window controls are still there in the top-left. But if
they were on the right of the window title, they would conflict with the
indicators on the right of the top panel.


Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 01/13/2015 02:17 PM, Saurbaum wrote:
 I'm curious about the reasoning behind the decision to restrict the
 window buttons location in Unity.
 
 It's fine to have a preferred default side to place them on from a
 design perspective, but to actually prevent customisation and lock it
 down seems rather draconian.
 
 Consider that the layout isn't even reliably enforced on third party
 applications. The two that leap to mine are Steam and Chrome which both
 place their own themed buttons in a Windows layout.
 
 Personally I would love to use Unity and have the buttons on the right
 of the screen.  It's where my mouse lives most of the time because
 that's where the scroll bar for the windows are.  Having to make my way
 to the left hand edge to close them feels like reaching across myself.
 
 Ian
 
 

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Re: Devuan

[Michael Hall]

Please note that telling somebody you think their post is off-topic is
not the same as telling them it can not be discussed. The topic has in
fact continued to be discussed despite Scott's opinion. If you don't
agree with him, just say so and continue the discussion, there is no
need to make this personal.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 12/01/2014 12:11 PM, Alexander Hanff wrote:
 Who died and made you god of what people can and cannot discuss on this
 list.  Diego spotted an interesting new development which he brought to the
 attention of the list with the suggestion that it might potentially be
 useful to Ubuntu in the future - that is completely relevant and completely
 acceptable content to post - you have zero right to come down on him and
 accuse him of being off-topic just because you don't like the idea, so
 please, get off your high horse.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
 [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Scott
 Kitterman
 Sent: 01 December 2014 18:03
 To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: Devuan
 
 As I explained, it's not relevant.  I get you think it is.  I disagree.  The
 mail (since you care to debate it) is also based on a false premise.  There
 is no requirement in Debian to use systemd as the init system.  It is the
 default.  It's trivial to retain sysvinit and possible to use upstart.
 
 None of which is relevant to Ubuntu which has never offered init system
 choice and moved off of sysvinit last decade.
 
 Scott K
 
 On Monday, December 01, 2014 05:58:37 PM Alexander Hanff wrote:
 I don't think your response was called for Scott - whether you agree 
 or not with the suggestion doesn't make it any less relevant.  To say 
 it is off-topic is ridiculous, it is absolutely relevant to Ubuntu 
 development and was something Diego wanted to point out as a potential 
 option for Ubuntu in the future.



 -Original Message-
 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
 [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of 
 Scott Kitterman
 Sent: 01 December 2014 17:42
 To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: Devuan

 On Monday, December 01, 2014 11:22:22 AM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
 I just learned of the launch of Devuan https://devuan.org/ A fork of 
 Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and promises 
 to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community towards the 
 derived distros Will have to see how the project evolves, but if 
 they do not be a bad idea that Ubuntu will begin to rely on it

 That's rather unrelated to Ubuntu development.  Ubuntu has taken it's 
 own decisions on init systems for some time (it wasn't in this decade 
 that Ubuntu last had a release that used sysvinit).

 Please stay on topic.

 Scott K

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Re: Devuan

[Michael Hall]

On 12/01/2014 09:22 AM, Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
 I just learned of the launch of Devuan
 https://devuan.org/
 A fork of Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and
 promises to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community
 towards the derived distros
 Will have to see how the project evolves, but if they do not be a bad
 idea that Ubuntu will begin to rely on it
 

Please do keep an eye on Devuan's development, and participate in it if
you are interested in the direction they are taking. But I think we can
all agree that it is *far* too early to start thinking about rebase-ing
off of it.

Michael Hall
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Re: Devuan

[Michael Hall]

It's fairly impossible, at this point in time, to have a discuss about
Devuan without it also being a discussion about systemd, that is the
raison d'etat for it's existence. If they can get it off the ground and
produce a stable, sustainable distribution, then that might change.

Michael Hall
mhall...@gmail.com

On 12/01/2014 02:31 PM, Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
 El 01/12/14 a las 15:45, Michael Hall escibió:
 Please do keep an eye on Devuan's development, and participate in it if
 you are interested in the direction they are taking. But I think we can
 all agree that it is *far* too early to start thinking about rebase-ing
 off of it.
 I only seek to comment that it would be interesting to pay attention to
 the project. I do not know why it ended in a discussion about systemd or
 its alternatives. or why it created so many negative reactions.
 It is not the first time that Ubuntu takes a fork (libreoffice, libav)
 and I think that negative reactions as exaggerated discourage
 participation of users
 
 

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Re: Response to Erich Schubert (systemd fanboi / male feminist) and his lies.

[Michael Hall]

This is off-topic for this list, and the tone is not appropriate. Please
keep posts topical and respectful.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 11/11/2014 06:18 PM, Chateau DuBlanc wrote:
 Erich Schubert is a male feminist. The sort of person
 who is in good standing with current debian social politics.
 He has taken to spread a number of falsehoods in his recent column.
 http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201411/2014110901-gr-vote-on-init-coupling.html#comments
 
 Dear Mr Schubert;
 
 He has not contributed anything to the open source community.
 This is a complete lie. I've contributed gigabytes of media alone.
 I've done years and years of programming work.
 I have done far more than you ever will.
 
 His songs and games are not worth looking at,
 Your subjective view. Coloured by your social views and your
 disdain for those who oppose you in that.
 
 and I'm not aware of any project that has accepted any of his 
 contributions.
 The only objectively true thing you've said: you're not aware.
 I'm glad you're unaware, I hope that trend continues.
 
 I expect this post to be censored, it is par for the course for people like 
 you.
 
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Interesting conflict with zlib 1.2.5 gdm 2.30

[Michael Adams]

 I tried using zlib 1.2.5 from Debian experimental on some XUbuntu 
systems, and it seems to induce an eventual (non-immediate) crash of 
gdm. At first I thought it was a bug with the nouveau driver that was 
seen on some Redhat systems some months back, but that issue predates 
the release of the new zlib. My final DEB set for migrating to using the 
new zlib counts 13 packages.


http://unquietwiki.blogspot.com/2010/07/package-hell.html

Package list that worked

gcc-4.5-base_4.5.0-8_i386.deb
libc-bin_2.11.2-2_i386.deb
libc-dev-bin_2.11.2-2_i386.deb
libc6-dev_2.11.2-2_i386.deb
libc6-i686_2.11.2-2_i386.deb
libc6_2.11.2-2_i386.deb
libgcc1_4.5.0-8_i386.deb
libpixman-1-0_0.18.2-1_i386.deb
libpthread-stubs0_0.3-2_i386.deb
libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_i386.deb
zlib-bin_1.2.5.dfsg-1_i386.deb
zlib1g-dev_1.2.5.dfsg-1_i386.deb
zlib1g_1.2.5.dfsg-1_i386.deb

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Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.

[Michael Hall]

Please do not engage with this person further, I'm working to get this
removed from the ML.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 11/05/2014 01:07 PM, Castle OfWhite wrote:
 Feminist should all be shot in the head. The world would be a better place 
 for males.
 Girls should be married when they are still children, as happened in the Old 
 Testament.
 If a man rapes a young girl who has not allready been given/promised away the
 effect should be that he keep her forever and pays the father some money.
  
  
 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 at 6:04 PM
 From: Alexander Langanke alexlanga...@googlemail.com
 To: Castle OfWhite castleofwh...@mail.com
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com, john.r.mo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.
 Hello to all,
  
 as an Ubuntu and Open Source enthusiast who is just reading this mailing list 
 to keep informed..
  
 Can this person please be banned, I do not believe anyone here shares such 
 hateful and discriminating views on humans.
  
 Thank you.
 Alexander Langanke
 On Mi, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:01 , Castle OfWhite castleofwh...@mail.com wrote:
 It's licensed elsewhere under CC-BY-SA aswell, just for such an occasion. The 
 GPL is a fine media license when said media is a part of a program (game 
 etc). In such cases Judges usually see the entire thing as a whole rather 
 than a collection of parts. I do know what I'm doing, and You show your 
 ignorance :). I've been writing programs and making free/opensource media 
 from before the CC license were created. Back then we just licensed our stuff 
 under the GPL, the BSD license, or the gnu FDL. (or all of them) Worked fine. 
 People understood. SO FUCK YOU! Go fuck yourself you pro-feminist pro-systemd 
 piece of shit. (I remeber when there weren't feminists in free/opensource 
 too) (nor better-than-thou systemd loving assholes) I hope Mr Cook is edged 
 out because he supports your beliefs (and that is leading to a ban in russia 
 of apple products) You people need to be fought back against. You've ruined 
 the world for regular men.On 11/05/2014 12:27 PM, Chateau DuBlanc wrote:A 
 Jumble of Line
 s
 - Because that's what systemD is. More code .: better youtu.be/ACDi1YOcupk 
SystemD introduces (further) systemic vulnerabilities into Gnu/Linux. Here is a 
song feeling that situation out.Take this immaturity elsewhere. I thought I was 
being spammed by YouTube again.(C) Gnu GPL v2GPL is not an appropriate media 
license; it is a license for source code. This usage shows you like to make 
statements about things you don't understand; thus your assessments of systemd 
are immediately suspect, and readily assumed misguided. In other words: you 
obviously don't know what you're talking about, and your input on any matter is 
valueless.
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Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.

[Michael Hall]

I am working with the list admins to get this removed.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 11/05/2014 01:17 PM, M.hanny sabbagh wrote:
 Now that's not very diplomatic, i didn't expect to see this sort of
 conversations on a developers list, specially those about open source
 software.
 
 Too bad to see that.. in here.. 
 
 News will talk about this.
 
 From: castleofwh...@mail.com
 To: john.r.mo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.
 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:13:54 +0100
 CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 
 Nope. Fuck you.
 It was good enough for us then and it's good enough for us now.
 You can use this media with any GPL program or other GPL media.
 Go and fuck yourself.
 (and hey, it's dual licensed under CC BY SA anyway if you're a
 homosexual who is anal)
 
 The Law is all about appeals to authority, dumbass.
 
 It's my fucking song and I can distribute it as I like, and I say the
 GPL is the license.
 You can certainly use it and modify it and do anything you could do
 with a GPL program.
 YOU cannot tell ME what I decide for MY FUCKING SONGS YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
 
 FUCK YOU YOU DAMNED PRO FEMINIST FUCK.
 And Fuck SystemD.
  
 
 My Copyright protected work, MY LICENSING DECISION.
 And I have decided GPL. It has always worked and is proven.
 And if you continue to keep saying I have licensed it less permissably.
 
 Well then that's libel and I hope to see you in an alleyway, because
 you're spreading lies about me.
 Shut your fucking mouth.
 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 at 6:07 PM
 From: John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com
 To: Castle OfWhite castleofwh...@mail.com,
 ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.
 On 11/05/2014 01:01 PM, Castle OfWhite wrote:
  It's licensed elsewhere under CC-BY-SA aswell, just for such an
 occasion.
  The GPL is a fine media license when said media is a part of a program
  (game etc). In such cases Judges usually see the entire thing as a whole
  rather than a collection of parts.
 
 
 That's a weak argument. It's an appeal to authority and to tradition.
 
 The GPL directly describes considerations for linking and source code,
 as well as program executable modules. While it makes some sense to
 include resources in the definition of the program in general,
 extracting the media from the program immediately creates confusion
 about what exactly was violated; the only proper interpretation is that
 distributing the media with the program is allowed, while the media
 without being part of the program is not under any permissive license
 and, thus, distributing it is a copyright violation.
 
  I do know what I'm doing, and You show your ignorance :).
  I've been writing programs and making free/opensource media
  from before the CC license were created.
 
  Back then we just licensed our stuff under the GPL, the BSD license, or
  the gnu FDL. (or all of them) Worked fine. People understood.
 
  SO FUCK YOU!
 
  Go fuck yourself you pro-feminist pro-systemd piece of shit.
  (I remeber when there weren't feminists in free/opensource too)
  (nor better-than-thou systemd loving assholes)
 
  I hope Mr Cook is edged out because he supports your beliefs
  (and that is leading to a ban in russia of apple products)
  You people need to be fought back against. You've ruined the
  world for regular men.
 
 
 Okay, civilized conversation has broken down.
 
 
  On 11/05/2014 12:27 PM, Chateau DuBlanc wrote:
  A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.
  More code .: better
 
  youtu.be/ACDi1YOcupk
 
  SystemD introduces (further) systemic vulnerabilities into Gnu/Linux.
  Here is a song feeling that situation out.
 
 
  Take this immaturity elsewhere. I thought I was being spammed by
  YouTube again.
 
  (C) Gnu GPL v2
 
 
  GPL is not an appropriate media license; it is a license for source
  code. This usage shows you like to make statements about things you
  don't understand; thus your assessments of systemd are immediately
  suspect, and readily assumed misguided.
 
  In other words: you obviously don't know what you're talking about, and
  your input on any matter is valueless.
 
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Re: A Jumble of Lines - Because that's what systemD is.

[Michael Hall]

This user has been unsubscribed and banned from the list. I am now
working on getting the offensive thread removed from the archive.
Apologies for the disruption, and to everybody who had to see it.

Michael Hall
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Planning the next Ubuntu Online Summit

[Michael Hall]

Hello everyone,

Yesterday Daniel Holbach announced that we were planning to have the
next Ubuntu Online Summit in November, skipping the mid-cycle dates
because they were not going to be useful to either the community or
Canonical teams involved.

It's come to out attention that the original week selected, November 4th
- 6th, would overlap with the OpenStack Summit, so we're now looking at
either the second or third week of November (the last week is
Thanksgiving holidays in the USA).

But we would also like to start a discussion about the format, tracks
and participation in the next UOS and start gathering sessions early on
so that people have enough time to rearrange their schedules if
necessary to attend those they are interested in.

So to kick that off, consider this an official call for feedback, both
on the last UOS and previous vUDS events. Tell us what you enjoyed about
it, what you didn't enjoy, what we can change to make it work better for
you, your teams and your projects. We want to make these online events
as meaningful and useful to you as possible, so we're open to any
suggestions

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Discovering the package of an open window

[Michael Spencer]

What is the best way to discover the package a program is in by clicking
on an open window?

So far I've been using xprop to get the PID of the window, reading where
/proc/PID/exe points too, and then running apt-file search on that.

However, for some programs, like LibreOffice Writer, I get
libreoffice-core, not libreoffice-writer.

For the program I'm writing, Contributor Console (written in python),
the executable is /usr/bin/python2.7, even though I launched it with the
command contributor-console.

So, what is the best way to accurately discover the package a program is
in by clicking on an open window?

Thank you,

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Re: Discovering the package of an open window

[Michael Spencer]

On 01/18/2013 10:54 AM, Martin Pitt wrote:
 Michael Spencer [2013-01-18 10:39 -0600]:
 What is the best way to discover the package a program is in by clicking
 on an open window?

 So far I've been using xprop to get the PID of the window, reading where
 /proc/PID/exe points too, and then running apt-file search on that.
 That's by and large how I do it, although dpkg -S /path/to/program
 doesn't require apt-file to be installed.

 However, for some programs, like LibreOffice Writer, I get
 libreoffice-core, not libreoffice-writer.
 That's actually correct. LibreOffice is really by and large one big
 binary with different modes for Writer, etc., and it is indeedn
 libreoffice-core which ships /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin.

 Martin

Okay, that makes sense. What I'm trying to do is identify the package
and then access the Launchpad entry for the package. But for example,
Libreoffice seems to lump all the libreoffice packages into one
Launchpad entry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice. Is
there an easy way to find the Launchpad entry for a particular package?

Thanks,

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Re: Discovering the package of an open window

[Michael Spencer]

On 01/18/2013 01:07 PM, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:32:16AM -0600, Michael Spencer wrote:
 Okay, that makes sense. What I'm trying to do is identify the package
 and then access the Launchpad entry for the package. But for example,
 Libreoffice seems to lump all the libreoffice packages into one
 Launchpad entry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice. Is
 there an easy way to find the Launchpad entry for a particular package?
 Launchpad generally organises binary packages (e.g. libreoffice-core,
 etc.) by the source package that built them (e.g. libreoffice).  The
 Package: line of 'apt-cache showsrc BINARY-PACKAGE-NAME' shows you the
 source package name.


Perfect! Thank you!

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Launchpad translations for a package

[Michael Spencer]

I'm working on a program that will open a web browser and show the
translations for a package in Launchpad. What is the best URL to go to
given the package name?

I've tried using
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/version/+source/package,
but for the packages I've looked at, translations are managed by the
Launchpad project, not the package. Should I still just show the user
the package's translations page, should I try extracting the Sharing
translations with link and show that, or is there a better way to do this?

Thank you,

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Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

[Michael Loftis]

Sent from my Motorola Xoom
On Apr 1, 2012 6:23 AM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote:

 With the release date for the new LTS coming
 rapidly, I am faced with a quandary. There are
 things in Precise which I need; I do not like
 to be behind the curve for updates and such;
 but I just *cannot* have my desktop mucked about
 with.


Oh it goes well and truely far beyond that. Some pinhead decided to move
/var/run to /run without leaving a symlink or informing and updating
packages.
I had an unfortunate 10.04 LTS system go unbootable until I got onto the
console to fix it so networking could even come up since on that machine it
was depending on dhcp and a handful of other things to check in via the FHS
accepted and everything but ubuntu  /var/run. And this was a normal system.
Whose stupid idea was *that*? The same moron who was pissing and moaning
about moving all binaries into /bin or some other idiocy?

I am so very glad I never bought the Linux desktop coolaide. Though I guess
Windows 8 designed for mobile and tablets is getting pushed to the desktop
too so precise may as well break the long standing /var/run practice of
this is where pid files go without fixing any stock packages.

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Re: server went unbootable

[Michael Loftis]

Sent from my Motorola Xoom
On Apr 7, 2012 5:44 AM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote:
 At one point I tried to build a 'special' statically
 linked ssh... an effort that didn't work out... with
 the idea of having it available on some port as an
 emergency backdoor for sysadmins that came up as
 soon as networking was up. The idea was that if things
 went bad and you were 4000 miles away from the data
 centre...

 Just another of those things that I might have done,
 if I lived on a planet with 48 hours days.


Don't use openssh! There are a few smaller, lighter, statically linkable
SSH daemons out there.
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Re: help regarding whom excatly i should contact.

[Michael Vogt]

Hi!

On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 12:14:47AM +0530, joy chalissery wrote:
 here is the link where is gave something in writing
 http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28923/
 please do read the comments following the idea
 admin talked about getting involved with development team.

Thanks for your interesst in improving the software-center!
 
 I am not a programmer of expert level but would like to give some
 suggestions .
 Saw about the teams and categories.
 But no where there was a team which took in suggestions may be about a
 single software in bulk.
 i can do art,bit of programming, but more importantly give suggestion on
 improving which can be easily
 acted upon by developers.
 
 So the question is which team to join/ location of a suggestion box ? where
 i could contribute to ubuntu.

There are various way to approach the software-center team, check
http://launchpad.net/software-center, it links to the spec that has a
subsection about how to contribute. We are keen to hear your ideas and
we always welcome help!

In addition to suggestions, the best is probably to start hacking at
the source code, even if you are not a expert programmer. We are happy
to help you getting started, there is the software-store-developers
mailing list and the #software-center irc channel where we hang out
and can help. The scarce resource for us is people working on the
implementation of all the great ideas that are floating around. So
every bit helps!

Thanks,
 Michael

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Re: Ubuntu System Restore

[Michael Vogt]

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 09:19:28PM +0530, Gaurav Saxena wrote:
 Hello Michael
Hi Gaurav,

sorry for my slow reply.

 On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Michael Vogt m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 05:15:14PM -0600, Bear Giles wrote:
   I've written a few prototypes and this comes down to four issues. Some of
   the details below are debian/ubuntu-specific but the same concepts will
   apply to redhat.
  [..]
   2. Packages should NOT be backed up. All you need is the package name and
   version. Reinstall from .deb and .rpm if necessary since this way you're
   sure that you never restore compromised files.
 
  You may want to look at the apt-clone package for this part of the
  work, it supports creating/restoring this meta-data.
 
 Could you suggest something to me that how can I use apt-clone in my system
 restore program to backup the states of system packages. I read articles
 regarding that like http://swik.net/apt-clone which say that I need to have
 a ZFS file system for managing snapshots and also its just a front-end to
 apt-get.

There is a unfortuate name clash here, the apt-clone that uses zfs on
solaris is different from the one we have in the archive. Our
apt-clone create a system-state file by capturing installed packages,
auto-install states, sources.list etc. apt-clone --help should give a
overview. Its possible to test using e.g. 
 apt-clone restore --destination=/tmp/foo clonefile
this will restore into a chroot dir. Careful otherwise, the default
restore location is /.

Cheers,
 Michael
 

  Cheers,
   Michael
 
 
   On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Gaurav Saxena grvsaxena...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Hello Aaron
Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
   
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn 
  aa...@heyaaron.comwrote:
   
In Windows, the ability to snapshot is built into the filesystem.
In Linux, you must be running a filesystem that supports snapshots.  I
know LVM supports snapshotting and I believe BRTFS has support, but
other than that I'm not sure.
   
Yes I read the logic behind windows system restore. But I think we can
take some other approach for this, that will be better as all users
  won't be
able to spare an extra partition formatted brtfs.
   
   
Basically, your program would have to check the file system that is
used on the computer (remember Linux can have many types of file
systems mounted at the same time), then (in the case of LVM) make sure
there's enough free space to snapshot, and finally take the snapshot.
   
Ok. Do I have to snapshot the whole system partition / important
  system
files to the brtfs partition ?
   
   
When the snapshots start filling up, you would either need to delete
them or detect the low space and resize them.
   
In my personal opinion, snapshotting in Linux is currently a pain in
the rear.  It sounds like BTRFS could change that, but it's still a
ways off.
   
Ok.  I will try another approach that will be better as suggested by
people here.
   
   
-A
   
   
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 21:00, Gaurav Saxena grvsaxena...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hello all,
 I want to write a windows system restore like program for ubuntu ,
  which
 will have options for creating restore points for the system and
  then
 restoring it back to that point. Also I will as an extension provide
support
 for older version of a file as is in windows currently. I need your
  help
to
 find how to start with this in ubuntu. I know that I have to
  snapshot
the
 system when creating a restore point and then restore it. I need
  some
 starting pointers so that I can start doing this work. Also if this
  has
 already been done please inform me. I got this idea from
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemRestore.
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Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/

[Michael Loftis]

On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 nick rundy [2011-11-01 15:01 -0400]:
 I came to ubuntu from Windows. And one thing Windows does well is make it 
 easy to find an executable file (i.e., it's in C:\Program Files\)

 In fact, Windows makes that really hard, as there is no standard
 location for binaries. Each application ships its executables in its
 own directory.

+1 to this.  Unixen in general are much more consistent.  User level
binaries shipped with the base system go in /bin, system level (eg
root type stuff) /sbin.  Additional packages not part of the base
system belong in the /usr/bin and /usr/sbin locations, any package not
following that needs fixing, not breaking *EVERYTHING* in the world so
that all bins are in the same dir -- since they already are supposed
to be.

Just *TRY* to find all the executable binaries for say MS Office.  Now
how about DLLs?  Yeah, good luck with that.


 Finding an executable file in Ubuntu is frustrating  lacks
 organization that makes sense to users.

 I doubt that many users actually care, and those wo do can use
 which. Also. all binaries a user is actually concerned with are in
 /usr/bin (i. e. the ones you'd call to open documents with).

 Here's a link to an article that talks about Fedora's idea:
 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.html?view=print

 That would mean that we need to drop the possibility to have /usr on a
 separate partition/network file system, or make the initramfs
 clever/complicated enough to actually wait for /usr to come up.

 Also, the separation of /sbin and /usr/sbin is not just totally
 random; for non-admin users it makes them not appear in tab completion
 etc, which cleans up the command namespace a bit.

Another +1.

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Re: QTstalker is 0.32, but 3 years ago 0.36 was released?

[Michael]

Perhaps you could find it in a PPA.

Michael
On Oct 8, 2011 6:45 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote:

 qtstalker in the repos is way behind.  The new version tracks candlestick
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Re: Ubuntu System Restore

[Michael Vogt]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 05:15:14PM -0600, Bear Giles wrote:
 I've written a few prototypes and this comes down to four issues. Some of
 the details below are debian/ubuntu-specific but the same concepts will
 apply to redhat.
[..]
 2. Packages should NOT be backed up. All you need is the package name and
 version. Reinstall from .deb and .rpm if necessary since this way you're
 sure that you never restore compromised files.

You may want to look at the apt-clone package for this part of the
work, it supports creating/restoring this meta-data.

Cheers,
 Michael
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Gaurav Saxena grvsaxena...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hello Aaron
  Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
 
  On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn 
  aa...@heyaaron.comwrote:
 
  In Windows, the ability to snapshot is built into the filesystem.
  In Linux, you must be running a filesystem that supports snapshots.  I
  know LVM supports snapshotting and I believe BRTFS has support, but
  other than that I'm not sure.
 
  Yes I read the logic behind windows system restore. But I think we can
  take some other approach for this, that will be better as all users won't be
  able to spare an extra partition formatted brtfs.
 
 
  Basically, your program would have to check the file system that is
  used on the computer (remember Linux can have many types of file
  systems mounted at the same time), then (in the case of LVM) make sure
  there's enough free space to snapshot, and finally take the snapshot.
 
  Ok. Do I have to snapshot the whole system partition / important system
  files to the brtfs partition ?
 
 
  When the snapshots start filling up, you would either need to delete
  them or detect the low space and resize them.
 
  In my personal opinion, snapshotting in Linux is currently a pain in
  the rear.  It sounds like BTRFS could change that, but it's still a
  ways off.
 
  Ok.  I will try another approach that will be better as suggested by
  people here.
 
 
  -A
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 21:00, Gaurav Saxena grvsaxena...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hello all,
   I want to write a windows system restore like program for ubuntu , which
   will have options for creating restore points for the system and then
   restoring it back to that point. Also I will as an extension provide
  support
   for older version of a file as is in windows currently. I need your help
  to
   find how to start with this in ubuntu. I know that I have to snapshot
  the
   system when creating a restore point and then restore it. I need some
   starting pointers so that I can start doing this work. Also if this has
   already been done please inform me. I got this idea from
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemRestore.
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icinga 1.3.1 and 1.4.0 for lucid / natty

[Michael Friedrich]

Hi,

I'm not sure if it's the right place to ask, but I was a bit confused by 
the bug tracker, demanding different versions for different releases. 
Even more, I am not sure who takes care of porting the Nagios / Icinga 
packages from Debian to Ubuntu.


So please excuse my n00bish question on how to get at least Icinga 1.3.1 
(bugfixed 1.3.0 release) into the stable tree (maybe as backport) into 
lucid and natty?


And even - when official Debian pkg are there in backports, expected 
soon - bring Icinga 1.4.0 from yesterday's release into the experimental 
or testing tree.


Thoughts/Hints?

Thanks,
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Screen rotation doesn't rotate Touchscreen input

[Michael Franzl]

There is a handful of touchscreens by now that are supported by the 
Linux kernel natively. If you turn the touchscreen by 90 degrees and you 
rotate the screen via System - Preferences - Monitors, the coordinates 
of the mouse are rotated too. But the x and y coordinates from the 
touchscreen input are not rotated.


Is there any way to change this?

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Re: Collecting data

[Michael]

You may want to post this on centos mailing lists as well.
On Dec 24, 2010 10:23 AM, derleader __ derlea...@abv.bg wrote:

 Hi,




 I'm developing C plugin for Centos which will be installed as kernel
module. The problem is how to collect the data about:
 CPU
 Check – Utilization, Model, Number of Cores
 RAM
 Check – Total Memory, Free Memory, Memory Load
 HDD
 Check – Number of physical HDDs, Number of logical partitions,
 Total space, Free space
 Running
 processes – Total number of processes
 Logs
 – system logs such as error logs
 System
 uptime
 Users
 logged in and last login – total list of users
 Total
 network connections
 Check
 hardware parts model and number The kernel module will check the status of
the OS every 5 minutes. What is the most efficient way to collect these
data?

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Re: Newcomer interested in taking on project to add colors to apt-get/apt-cache

[Michael Loftis]

--On Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:00 AM -0400 Daniel da Silva 
ddasi...@umd.edu wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm a newcomer to the Ubuntu Development community, but long time linux
 user. I am interested in starting a patch to add colored output to the
 apt-get/apt-cache (are there any other apt-*s?)[see bug link in
 footnote]. Gentoo, for example, does this very nicely with their emerge
 tool. I was wondering if anyone could answer some questions:

 1) Should patches for apt be submitted to Ubuntu or Debian?
 2) Are there any *must read* docs you suggest I read before I get started?
 3) How likely do you think it is that this patch would get accepted?

I think you'd have better luck getting those types patches integrated into 
aptitude rather than apt (assuming aptitude doesn't already have this) -- 
apt-* are, IMO, meant for lower level packaging interaction and so don't 
want/need for frills like this.  aptitude is really meant as a completely 
user facing interface to apt-* and friends and is probably far more 
appropriate a place for these sorts of patches. 
http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/aptitude.html is the Debian source 
information for the package.



 Thanks,

 Daniel

 [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/apt/+bug/262227






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Re: Dump Google?

[Michael Loftis]

--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:05 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman 
hol...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:34:25PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote:


 --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:33 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman
 hol...@cox.net wrote:

  On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Simon Ponder wrote:
  What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking?
 
 ..snip..
 
  Icerocket, although it's been getting flaky on me as of late.

 Uhm, news flash.  Icerocket's web search IS GOOGLE.  I think it's blog
 search is also google based, I'd have to dig, but, looks a bit like the
 Google news or groups search.

 I did a little digging. Running a search on icerocket + google turned
 up several sites that contrasted icerocket and google. If there was
 anything linking the two, I missed it. Can you supply a URL for your
 conclusion?


The fact that their web search result pages are nearly identical to 
Google's (minus the upper header actually), and results are identical to 
Google.  Just do some comparison searches.  They find the same numbers of 
pages, rank them the same, and are using the same extracts/excerpts.

I really highly doubt they've enough spidering capacity to replicate 
Google's results so closely.  The fact that their nothing found/error page 
also contains Google's nothing found/error language verbatim points to this 
as well.

As for their blog search, it also looks like the Google Blog Search API 
Data, with some form of additional filtering, exactly what they're doing 
there I'm not sure.

Icerocket is very clearly someone whose written a UI for Google searches, 
there's nothing there to suggest otherwise.  In web searches especially 
they're *identical*.  The likelihood of two independent search databases of 
the web producing the EXACTLY same results for the first 15 for every 
single search I tested (I tried 6 of them, 'dog pile', 'google 
philanthropy', 'rock hunting', 'terranova space suit', 'feel good music', 
'hockey pucks for sale' -- just random keyword strings really except for 
the google philanthropy one).  And at a glance it also appears everything 
past the top 15 was identical too.  Empirically, Icerocket web search is 
just google search API.  If anyone here is self serving it's Icerocket.

Try matching ANY other search engine against Google, (or against any 
other!) You're not going to get the same results.  Even if they use the 
same algorithms, differing databases will produce different results.  The 
only way to replicate the breadth and depth of Google's results is to have 
the many many many TB of search index capability that Google has.

I'd be really surprised if their blog search isn't Google, the data that's 
there is what is represented in the API's.  That one I haven't been able to 
figure out what they're doing to get those results, so they're offering 
something of value there.  It certainly produces better results than 
blogsearch.google.com -- but maybe that's not the data stream that 
icerocket is using either.

The simple fact that they're blatantly lifting Google web search though 
makes it pretty likely their blog search is based off Google data.  The 
twitter search looks to me to be a wrapper around Twitter's own Search API 
as well, but I didn't spend any time looking into that.

Their 'advanced search' syntax, is also identical to Google's (that's not 
saying much honestly, but it's one additional little thing) -- though 
they're filtering out at least some of the specialty search prefixes like 
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Re: Dump Google?

[Michael Loftis]

--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:51 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman 
hol...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote:


 --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman
 hol...@cox.net wrote:

   ..snip..

 
  Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If
  you are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at
  China's whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their
  stated support of the free flow of information. Only the lazy or those
  who are uninformed or lack principals use Googleand yes, I do use
  another search engine.

 Wow you really don't pay any attention to reality do you?

 Google did it's best NOT to bend to China.  But in order to maintain any
 official presence at all in China they had to make available a
 Chinese  censorship approved version of Google search.  They did their
 best to  legally maintain the full search view for China.

 Up until the time the PRC threatened not to renew their license. Then
 they dropped their pants and bent over.

Actually, no they didn't.  They said screw it, and left.  The remaining .cn 
is all in .com.hk, which has different laws.


 So now there's the
 limited Chinese censored site, but a simple click will get you the
 unfiltered version still in most cases.

 That came as a surprise to me. I remember reading that the PRC made them
 eliminate the HK link.

They can't make them do much of anything to the .com.hk hosted 
infrastructure.  To the best of my knowledge they've basically left China 
over the PRC's censorship requirements.  They tried to make the PRC happy 
for a while, but when it became too onerous to do that, they said screw it 
and left.  Quite the opposite of whatever impression you've gotten.  They 
were, and still are, one of the loudest voices for freedom of 
(search/speech).


 In the cases that it doesn't there
 are well documented work arounds using proxies.

 Quit criminalizing/blaming/whatever Google for the *CHINESE GOVERNMENTS*
 shortcomings and requirements.

 I didn't criminalize them but my statement stands. They are just as
 unprincipled as any other avaricious corporation, their self serving
 protestations not withstanding.

If they are so completely self serving then why have there been something 
like 700 published research papers from Google (Yahoo! Research also has a 
similar number) -- why has Google sponsored the summer of code for the last 
six years?  Why has google open sourced so many different technologies? 
Some of Google's papers and research are what helped to start the latest 
evolution in computing (they call it the cloud).

IBM has a LOT more publishing, but they've had decades more to work at it, 
and are a larger organization.  Universities have a lot more as well.  But 
amongst the bigger corporations, in so far as technology research and 
publishing (that is making findings publicly available), and helping MANY 
other open source projects along, Google is pretty generous.

Yes Google uses some of the information as part of recruiting (they're VERY 
clear about that) -- but the code is public domain, it could do that just 
as well without funding any of these projects.

Go take a look at the Google Summer of Code (SoC) information.  Ubuntu has 
benefitted from atleast this years SoC.  I'm not sure about prior years. 
For SoC 2010 Google awards $5500 per approved student/coder.  $500 goes to 
the sponsoring organization, and $5000 goes to the student.  For 2010 they 
funded about 1000 Student Developers.  That's $5M USD (up to, payment 
disbursement depends on a passing evaluation - done by the mentoring 
organization) -- The mentoring organizations basically submit a ranked list 
of possible projects/candidates.  Google awards N% of the total possible 
awards to each org based on the number of applicants (more applicants more 
projects and students get funded).  They did $5M last year too.  So Google 
gave *YOU* $5M in software development, because ALL of the code is open 
source.  Google doesn't even really decide who gets the money, they just 
put a framework in place for well known (open source) community 
organizations to say we want to have some deserving Open Source projects 
receive some time and funding, and here's our list

Like it or not, Google does a lot of non self serving (or atleast not 
entirely self serving) good out there.

Even if Google is self serving and unprincipled, they're certainly the 
amongst least so of any of their peers (Bing anyone?)

Also, I think that Google likely makes the VAST majority of its money from 
Adwords and Adwords related services, not from the data it collects (and 
uses in aggregate) for search.

I tried finding similar examples of philanthropy for Yahoo! and actually 
came up blank (using both Google and Yahoo! search honestly)

Microsoft has a pretty well known history of philanthropy, mostly directly 
from Bill Gate's Bill

Re: Dump Google?

[Michael Loftis]

--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:33 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman 
hol...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Simon Ponder wrote:
 What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking?

..snip..

 Icerocket, although it's been getting flaky on me as of late.

Uhm, news flash.  Icerocket's web search IS GOOGLE.  I think it's blog 
search is also google based, I'd have to dig, but, looks a bit like the 
Google news or groups search.

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Re: Dump Google?

[Michael Loftis]

--On Friday, September 10, 2010 7:58 PM -0700 Jordan jordanh...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Dear Ubuntu Developers,

 I'm not sure if I'm the first person to suggest this, but lately
 Google's reputation has diminished, especially with talk of them being
 Big Brother (yes, I know what server my email's on).  Why not drop
 Google and go for a more private search engine?

 I know of a few underdogs such as Startpage and Yauba (I know of one
 more whose name I forgot...they have plans for an email system).
 Probably they would be happy to form an alliance with Ubuntu.

 I'm thinking large-picture here.  Ubuntu's main attraction is it's
 security and privacy (not requiring users to register, for instance).
 With the technology news on Google and large search engines, I think we
 should jump on the band wagon to avoid Google. What do you say?


I don't know that Ubuntu (or any particular Linux distro) main attraction 
is either of those.  But it certainly is choice.  Ubuntu could provide more 
choice out of the box.  Whatever choice Ubuntu makes it would also have to 
be endorsed by it's users.  The results would have to be good and timely, 
just picking a different search engine to jump on the band wagon is 
probably a bad idea.  The new engine, whatever chosen, would have to be 
fairly robust as well since Ubuntu represents a non-trivial share of users, 
and, Ubuntu users I'm sure also expect things to work well.  In fact I'd 
say choice, and working well, as well as having the latest updates are the 
three highest expectations of Ubuntu users as a whole.  Security and 
privacy also figure in the top five reasons as well I'm sure, and different 
users will have different priorities.

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Re: maverick package indexing broken...

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-07-10 08:15:22 +0100, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
 When looking at the maverick package lists at
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ , we get an error, also searching
 for packages in the maverick repos returns nothing, and has done for a
 while now.

Known problem and it's being worked on. A fix is available but it's hard
to find someone with access to this box to deploy the fix.

Michael

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Re: [maverick] mercurial broken for amd64...

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-07-04 17:11:27 +0100, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
 At present in maverick, there is an inconsistent upload of the
 mercurial-common (1.54-1) and mercurial (1.52-1) packages on amd64,
 leading to inability to install it - see
 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mercurial/ .
 
 Anyone able to help address it, or should I file a LP bug and request
 sponsorship?

Known problem as the upload of the build debs from the buildds failed
on other architectures than i386. This is a bug in LP itself (see 
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/589073). I'm waiting on the
next LP rollout for the fix. I will ask on monday (when everyone is back
from weekend) when the next LP rollout is and either wait or work-around
it (depending how much longer it takes).

Regards,
Michael

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Re: Call For Testing: Karmic Firefox users (or willing to install Karmic in a VM)

[Michael Pardee]

I have some questions/concerns about the impending Firefox 3.6.4
upgrade for all current versions of Ubuntu.

When firefox is run for the first time after this upgrade a window
pops up saying:
15 new add-ons have been installed

For the average home user, that is probably not a big deal, although
they might be suspicious and think their machine is compromised.  (End
users only expect security updates, not major version and
functionality changes, so I would hope end users will be notified of
this major policy change somehow.)

But in a large fully automated deployment (like a public library/call
center, etc.) this is going to be a major problem unless the upgrade
can be fully automated and transparent to the end user.  I couldn't
find anyway in Firefox to disable that new add-ons window.  I'm sure
I can figure out a way to script changes to ~/.mozilla/firefox files
to recognize the new versions so the window doesn't pop up, but I will
need to know exactly when this update is released to make sure the
changes go in at the same time as the new firefox version.  You could
switch over to using the PPA version ahead of time and make the
~/.mozilla/firefox file changes at the same time, but will there be
changes between the current PPA and the final release that will
re-trigger the new add-ons window?

Will there be a schedule published at least a few days in advance,
telling us exactly when the packages will be released to the main
archives?

Thanks,
Michael Pardee
Open Sense Solutions LLC
http://open-sense.com
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 We need Karmic users to test our latest Firefox Upgrade!

 *Background*
 As I wrote in a previous email[1], Firefox 3.0 and xulrunner 1.9 are now
 unsupported by Mozilla. We are going to release Firefox 3.6.4 as a minor
 update to the 3.6 series in Lucid. This will also be rolled out to
 Hardy, Jaunty and Karmic (along with xulrunner 1.9.2.4). The update for
 Lucid is quite trivial, but the update in Hardy, Jaunty and Karmic is
 not quite as simple. As part of the upgrade, we are also releasing a set
 of langpacks.

 Before releasing these updates to the public, we need testing in
 Firefox, the extensions in the archive and distributions upgrades after
 those updates. We have published all these packages in a PPA [2] and we
 will track test results before moving anything to the archive. If you
 are using Firefox localised in your local language, please, make sure
 that the langpacks didn't break Firefox and that the translations are OK.

 We now need people running *Karmic* (Jaunty will see a similar call for
 testing in the following days) in bare metal or a virtual machine. If
 you are willing to help, you can follow the instructions below:

  1. Add the Mozilla Security PPA to your software sources

  You need to manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add the
 following lines:

  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu karmic
 main
  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu
 karmic main

  After saving the file, you have to run:

  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7EBC211F
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

  2. You have to have an account in our tracking system. Go to
 http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com and click on Log In and Create New Account

  3. To know what to test and how to report back, please, read our
 instructions in our testing wiki:

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade

 Also, we have added a new testcase XulRunner Applications aiming to
 test that the applications using xulrunner keep working correctly after
 the update. These applications need to be tested both in Hardy and
 Karmic. A list of these applications can be found in the wiki:


 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/xulrunner-list

 Thanks!
 Ara.


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firefox 3.6.4 upgrade

[Michael Pardee]

I have some questions/concerns about the impending Firefox 3.6.4
upgrade for all current versions of Ubuntu.

When firefox is run for the first time after this upgrade a window
pops up saying:
15 new add-ons have been installed

For the average home user, that is probably not a big deal, although
they might be suspicious and think their machine is compromised.  (End
users only expect security updates, not major version and
functionality changes, so I would hope end users will be notified of
this major policy change somehow.)

But in a large fully automated deployment (like a public library/call
center, etc.) this is going to be a major problem unless the upgrade
can be fully automated and transparent to the end user.  I couldn't
find anyway in Firefox to disable that new add-ons window.  I'm sure
I can figure out a way to script changes to ~/.mozilla/firefox files
to recognize the new versions so the window doesn't pop up, but I will
need to know exactly when this update is released to make sure the
changes go in at the same time as the new firefox version.  You could
switch over to using the PPA version ahead of time and make the
~/.mozilla/firefox file changes at the same time, but will there be
changes between the current PPA and the final release that will
re-trigger the new add-ons window?

Will there be a schedule published at least a few days in advance,
telling us exactly when the packages will be released to the main
archives?

Thanks,
Michael Pardee
Open Sense Solutions LLC
http://open-sense.com
888-323-1742



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 We need Karmic users to test our latest Firefox Upgrade!

 *Background*
 As I wrote in a previous email[1], Firefox 3.0 and xulrunner 1.9 are now
 unsupported by Mozilla. We are going to release Firefox 3.6.4 as a minor
 update to the 3.6 series in Lucid. This will also be rolled out to
 Hardy, Jaunty and Karmic (along with xulrunner 1.9.2.4). The update for
 Lucid is quite trivial, but the update in Hardy, Jaunty and Karmic is
 not quite as simple. As part of the upgrade, we are also releasing a set
 of langpacks.

 Before releasing these updates to the public, we need testing in
 Firefox, the extensions in the archive and distributions upgrades after
 those updates. We have published all these packages in a PPA [2] and we
 will track test results before moving anything to the archive. If you
 are using Firefox localised in your local language, please, make sure
 that the langpacks didn't break Firefox and that the translations are OK.

 We now need people running *Karmic* (Jaunty will see a similar call for
 testing in the following days) in bare metal or a virtual machine. If
 you are willing to help, you can follow the instructions below:

  1. Add the Mozilla Security PPA to your software sources

  You need to manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add the
 following lines:

  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu karmic
 main
  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu
 karmic main

  After saving the file, you have to run:

  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7EBC211F
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

  2. You have to have an account in our tracking system. Go to
 http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com and click on Log In and Create New Account

  3. To know what to test and how to report back, please, read our
 instructions in our testing wiki:

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade

 Also, we have added a new testcase XulRunner Applications aiming to
 test that the applications using xulrunner keep working correctly after
 the update. These applications need to be tested both in Hardy and
 Karmic. A list of these applications can be found in the wiki:


 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/xulrunner-list

 Thanks!
 Ara.


 [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-June/030811.html
 [2] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa

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Re: Aptitude included in Maverick by default

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-06-12 00:10:57 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 Debian aptitude is at 0.6.2.1-2, while ubuntu's aptitude is at
 0.4.11.11-1ubuntu10
 
 I don't know why there is such a large version difference though and
 how much work needs to be done to merge these two together.

Lucid synced preferrably with testing and testing had for almost the
whole lucid development cycle 0.4.11.11-1 in testing. Aptitude 0.6.1.5-3
moved to testing on 2010-03-23. Way too late to get merged into lucid.

One could argue to merge with unstable earlier (aptitude 0.6.0.1-1 got
uploaded to unstable on 2009-10-25), but as I don't know how bug free
this version was (as aptitude 0.6.x needed almost 5 months to move to
testing) I don't know if it was an option to merge with unstable at all.

When looking at the changelog entries for those ten ubuntu uploads,
three uploads where pure rebuilds with a recent apt. And from the
changelog entries for the other Ubuntu delta and their size, it doesn't
look as that hard to merge them (if someone is up to this task).

Michael

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Re: About man pages...

[Michael Robinson]

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Omar Roa omaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 My name is Omar Roa, and I'm interested in translating a man page. I found
 this  email in the info of the 'iptables' command.

 I've been using GNU/Linux for some time and I like everything about it. I've
 learned a lot with it and I want to help by translating some pages of the
 manuals but I don't know how it works.

 Do I translate the pages and send them to you?
 Is it neccessary to send them to someone else?

 Please let me know how it works and if I can contribute with this
 translations.

 Best regards.







 --
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 Programador Java/web
 0412-3896716

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iptables is part of the netfilter project: http://www.netfilter.org/

Their mailing list would be a better place to go, unless you want your
translation to be Ubuntu-specific.

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Re: Remove OO Draw from the default install

[Michael Robinson]

This is my first time posting to a mailing list in years, so someone
let me know if I messed up. :)

I've found Dia to be useful for diagrams. It's a lot like Visio (the
flowchart program in MS Office).

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Chandru chandru...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of all the tools available by default it is the best at
 handling diagramming.  Since most of openoffice is included, it shouldn't
 add much to the space on the CD.
 Unless an equivalent or better diagramming tool is included it is not a good
 idea to remove it from the default install.
 --
 Chandra Sekar.S


 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com
 wrote:

 Hey all,

 I forgot to mention this at the session for default app selection but
 can we remove Open Office Draw from the default ubuntu install? The
 reasons are quite obvious it just isnt any good and I dont think any of
 the regular users actually use it.

 --fagan


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Re: Remove OO Draw from the default install

[Michael Robinson]

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Dane Mutters dmutt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 09:49 -0400, Michael Robinson wrote:
 I took a look at Dia in the Ubuntu Software Center.  While it looks
 well-adapted for diagramming schematics and such, I'm not sure how it
 would do with flow charts and the like.  Any thoughts on that?

 --Dane



I'm not knowledgeable enough about them to know what an average
flowchart-using person would need, but I do know it has flowchart
symbols in the dropdown box.

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Re: Ubuntu needs a new development model

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-05-06 21:42:40 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 Debian is not using public gpg servers. Instead they maintain their
 own keyring shipped in the debian-keyring package. You cannot add
 signatures to that from non-dd's. And DD's are only keeping real
 signatures on their keys from key signing parties.

That's not fully correct. The keys from DDs are also on the public keys
servers, but a key has to be in the seperate managed debian-keyring to
have upload rights to Debian. The membership in this keyring is
important, not the signatures on the key.
Of course it is possible to sign a key of a DD without being a DD
oneself. I've signatures from DDs on my key and also have signed their
keys (without being a DD).

And as the keys are on public keyservers, you have no control on the
signatures on your key. But you can tell gpg how much you trust (or not
trust) a key. And only trust other keys if they have signatures from
trusted keys.

Michael

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no more: SMB, Printer (Cups) and SSH

[Michael Kappes]

Hello,

until yesterday it works all fine. today, no more

i have a ebox (1) server in a privat LAN. (192.168.x.x) and a
desktopPC whit karmic 9.10

after my work yesterday i go to the IRC  to read along the LoCo-DE
JourFix-Meeting on freenode

and today, since 08:00h CET i sit on my UBUNTU 9.10 whitout: Printer,
SMB and SSH/HTTPS

i reboot the server, if i ping server (ebox) - client (karmic) i have a
answer.

i reboot the client, if i ping the server (ebox) from the client:
Destination Host Unreachable

ssh from the client (karmic) to server (ebox) tells: No route to host

but, ssh from server to client works. ssh says: failt to add the host to
the list of known 

shit, i am cracked?

thx4hlp

ahoi
michael
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Re: no more: SMB, Printer (Cups) and SSH

[Michael Kappes]

sorry, for the people who dont know EBOX

Am 14.04.2010 11:18, schrieb Michael Kappes:
 Hello,

(1) http://www.ebox-platform.com/

ahoi
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Re: no more: SMB, Printer (Cups) and SSH

[Michael Kappes]

hello Joao and readers,

Am 14.04.2010 11:53, schrieb Joao Pinto:
 Hello Michael, there is no interest in detailing the services which
 are failing when you have a general network problem.

sorry, but i have no more details.

 If you didn't explicitly changed anything on your network
 configuration on your client system I would suggest to file a bug
 report, 

ok, i am a littel doubtful - is this realy a bug...

 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ReportProblem

thx! but, it was not my first bugreport ;)

 In my opinion your problem is more likely to result from a network 
 misconfiguration/change,

nop, i am sure - i dont change any config (over night) on my network

 please check that you have the expected
 IP/Subnet mask/Gatway on both systems.

yes, i take a second look. but, i wrote in my first post: from the
server i ping on the clinet (i have a answer) and from the server i do
apt-get update - it works also.

from the client ( i write you this answer) i have also inet  co. but,
no answers from the server.

all of them can ping the DSL router

 Anyway please note that this ML is not for general support,

yes, i know this. this ML was my first place of refuge ;)
i expected the Aw: make a bug repord, dude m)

 there are
 MLs for such purpose,

ok, i repead: sorry...

 check: 
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support Additionally you can use
 the Ubuntu forums or if you prefer #Ubuntu on irc.freenode.net .

jep, this is great - ubuntu have many ways to find help.

however, a big thanks 4 your help

ahoi
michael





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Re: cant start gksu firefox

[Michael Kappes]

hello again all,

thanks a lot for help...

Am 04.04.2010 13:23, schrieb John Vivirito:
 There is a good chance that starting Firefox as root/sudo will screw up
 your profile as it happens a lot.

i use ubuntuzilla (1)

only for updates, i need to be root. on my desktop PC (ubuntu 9.10) it
works fine.

ahoi
michael

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cant start gksu firefox

[Michael Kappes]

hello devels and readers,

i will start my firefox as root - but, it doesn't work

bash:

 u...@laptop:~$ gksu firefox -d
 /home/user/.themes/Red Humanity/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:101: Murrine configuration 
 option gradients is no longer supported and will be ignored.
 No ask_pass set, using default!
 xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority
 STARTUP_ID: gksu/firefox/2533-0-tuxtop_TIME8943795
 cmd[0]: /usr/bin/sudo
 cmd[1]: -H
 cmd[2]: -S
 cmd[3]: -p
 cmd[4]: GNOME_SUDO_PASS
 cmd[5]: -u
 cmd[6]: root
 cmd[7]: --
 cmd[8]: firefox
 buffer: --
 brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS ended...
 No password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password.
 xauth: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE/.Xauthority
 xauth_env: /var/run/gdm/auth-for-user-LfDBUR/database
 dir: /tmp/libgksu-PDSBIE
 u...@laptop:~$ 

Murrine Error = is OK ;)

at the fist start from the shell whit gksu - the passwd question comes.
by the second start from shell i set the -d

what can i do thats my ff starts as root again. thx a lot.

Ahoi
Michael



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Re: cant start gksu firefox

[Michael Kappes]

hello cris,

Am 03.04.2010 19:45, schrieb Chris Coulson:
 this
 really isn't the place to ask for ways to make your system less secure.

if i start ff (or other apps) as root - i know what i do. i quest for
help/support. not for a argument ;)

anyway, thx for advice

ahoi
michael



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Re: cant start gksu firefox

[Michael Kappes]

hello nils,

Am 03.04.2010 22:26, schrieb Nils Kassube:
 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 And even worse idea to use gksu. Try
  gksudo. Should yield better results.
 
 Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better?

i wrote dimitrijs..

no, sorry. it shows the same result: the screen was/goes dark - to give
the sudo -pw - i give the PW - and precisely nothing happen´s

i use on my laptop lucid lynx (whit the gnome key ring bug)

maybe this is the problem?

ahoi
michael



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Re: lucid testreport upgraded 24 march 2010 from karmic

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-03-25 13:10:32 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote:
  On 2010-03-24 09:22:45 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
 
  - i'm against moving the window buttons to the left. it'll be annoying
  AS HELL, having to change a habit that's used that often.
 
  You can change the gconf-key controlling this. This was also covered on
  the planet how to change it again (not everyone was happy with this
  decision).
 
 ehm how do i edit that key? can't find the app to do it with..

When you have gconf-editor installed, call it from a terminal or through
Run application (gconf-editor). Its menu entry isn't visible by
default.


Michael

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Re: lucid testreport upgraded 24 march 2010 from karmic

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-03-24 09:22:45 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
 - had my compiz set to put my 2 screens in a left/right, shared
 desktop config. i had a desktop of 3360x1050 on which i put
 single-file backgrounds that span both screens.
 under lucid, my backgrounds (same file) are zoomed in and what's on
 the left screen as background is duplicated on the right screen.

The behaviour of some styles from the background properties has changed,
which made several people unhappy. But the background preferences got a
new style option: span. When you use spanning then your wallpaper
will span both screens again :)

 - i'm against moving the window buttons to the left. it'll be annoying
 AS HELL, having to change a habit that's used that often.

You can change the gconf-key controlling this. This was also covered on
the planet how to change it again (not everyone was happy with this
decision).

Michael

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FF 3.6.2 doesn't work after Lucid Update

[Michael Kappes]

Hello all,

since i update my Laptop (T41) whit the last Lucid updates from today -
Firefox doesn't start. Start from the bash says:

u...@ubuntu:~$ Firefox
/home/Michael/.themes/Red Humanity/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:101: Murrine
configuration option gradients is no longer supported and will be ignored.

gtk2-murrine and pixbuf are always install. change of the GNOME Themes
have no effects. (i change to the default Theme: Human)

what must i do thats my firefox came back?

thanks for Help

Ahoi
Majestyx




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Re: FF 3.6.2 doesn't work after Lucid Update

[Michael Kappes]

Hello John and readers,

ok, i do this, thx for help

Am 23.03.2010 17:51, schrieb John McCabe-Dansted:
 I have a feeling this would be more on topic elsewhere, though it
 does loosely fall under Sharing of experiences with the current 
 development branch of Ubuntu.

;)

Ahoi
Michael
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Google Earth Package

[Michael Forrest]

Hi

I'm trying to track down the maintainer of googleearth-package as it seems
like something kinda fun for people to know about.

My problem is that the description of the package provides no information
about what people are supposed to do with it.

All it needs is to say This package installs the 'make-googleearth-package'
command that you can run from the terminal.

It would save people having to search their system or the internet for help
when they want to install Google Earth.

Thanks

Michael Forrest
Canonical Design Team
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Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

[Michael Bienia]

On 2010-01-06 11:36:09 +0100, Patrick Freundt wrote:
 We dont talk about an unpleasant background color or desired or
 unwanted functionality. We talk about a default configuration of a
 browser that goes online to download data without my consent. And the
 very least to expect is that its prompting with a dialog.

You know that your Ubuntu systems also checks for package updates
automatically? So it goes online without your consent too. The same do
current Windows systems too.
And I don't want a dialog popping up asking me if it can look for fresh
updates now.

Michael

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