Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Carlos Velasco
Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.


2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

 Hi:

 What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they  the
 same thing?

 Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
 find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.


 I hope someone can give some explanation.


 Thanks.



Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread maven apache
@Carlos Velasco:

So does it mean that I can only refer to the docs at apache? I can think
the `adobe flex` does  not even exist?

BTW, does it matter if choosing for adobe flex ide(adobe flash builder 4.7
now) and others like FlashDevelper?


2013/8/14 Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com

 Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
 year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.


 2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

  Hi:
 
  What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they
  the
  same thing?
 
  Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
  find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
 
 
  I hope someone can give some explanation.
 
 
  Thanks.
 



RE: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Miguel Ferreira
Welcome to flex!
Short history Adobe Flex was a old version from Apache Flex.Adobe donated the 
SDK to the Apache on the version 4.6 and now the Apache Flex team this last 
week release the version 4.10. From the version 4.6 all the examples that you 
will find on the internet will work on the actual version.You just have more 
components, bugs fix and some new features.you are welcome to read the release 
notes from the versions.
On the site http://flex.apache.org/ you have there the tag Learn Flex with 
videos and flex in a week series that is a good start.
so i hope you will enjoy the experience of developing with flex and the 
community is here and alive!
Best regards,Miguel Ferreira

 From: apachemav...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:10:35 +0800
 Subject: adobe flex vs apache flex
 To: users@flex.apache.org
 
 Hi:
 
 What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they  the
 same thing?
 
 Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
 find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
 
 
 I hope someone can give some explanation.
 
 
 Thanks.
  

Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Carl Kelvin
Adobe flex was donated to Apache and become open source. Apache flex have a lot 
of additional features and new SDK was already release. You can visit their 
site @ www.flex.apache.org



 From: Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
To: users@flex.apache.org users@flex.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex
 

Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.


2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

 Hi:

 What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they  the
 same thing?

 Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
 find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.


 I hope someone can give some explanation.


 Thanks.


Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread maven apache
Thanks all your guys.

Does it mean that the different IDE will generate the same application
based on a specified Flex SDK?


BTW, it seems that the navigation menu at `flex.apache.org` have some
bughttps://www.dropbox.com/s/btp4nokok62ytx4/a.gif.
(You have download the gif or it does not play)

2013/8/14 Carl Kelvin carl_b...@yahoo.com

 Adobe flex was donated to Apache and become open source. Apache flex have
 a lot of additional features and new SDK was already release. You can visit
 their site @ www.flex.apache.org


 
  From: Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
 To: users@flex.apache.org users@flex.apache.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex


 Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
 year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.


 2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

  Hi:
 
  What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they
 the
  same thing?
 
  Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
  find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
 
 
  I hope someone can give some explanation.
 
 
  Thanks.
 



RE: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Miguel Ferreira
Yes.
Who generates the application is not the IDE but the compiler.So from the same 
SDK you will have the same compiler so the output will be the same (of course 
if the options of the compiler are the same!).


 From: apachemav...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:50:52 +0800
 Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex
 To: users@flex.apache.org
 
 Thanks all your guys.
 
 Does it mean that the different IDE will generate the same application
 based on a specified Flex SDK?
 
 
 BTW, it seems that the navigation menu at `flex.apache.org` have some
 bughttps://www.dropbox.com/s/btp4nokok62ytx4/a.gif.
 (You have download the gif or it does not play)
 
 2013/8/14 Carl Kelvin carl_b...@yahoo.com
 
  Adobe flex was donated to Apache and become open source. Apache flex have
  a lot of additional features and new SDK was already release. You can visit
  their site @ www.flex.apache.org
 
 
  
   From: Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
  To: users@flex.apache.org users@flex.apache.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex
 
 
  Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
  year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.
 
 
  2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com
 
   Hi:
  
   What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they
  the
   same thing?
  
   Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
   find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
  
  
   I hope someone can give some explanation.
  
  
   Thanks.
  
 
  

Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Carlos Velasco
Yes, you'll get the same application from the same source code using those
IDEs. Just project organization that could vary, as each IDE has its own
way to organize a project in order to get it compiled.

Some IDEs allow you to import project structure from other IDEs project
files also.


2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

 Thanks all your guys.

 Does it mean that the different IDE will generate the same application
 based on a specified Flex SDK?


 BTW, it seems that the navigation menu at `flex.apache.org` have some
 bughttps://www.dropbox.com/s/btp4nokok62ytx4/a.gif.
 (You have download the gif or it does not play)

 2013/8/14 Carl Kelvin carl_b...@yahoo.com

  Adobe flex was donated to Apache and become open source. Apache flex have
  a lot of additional features and new SDK was already release. You can
 visit
  their site @ www.flex.apache.org
 
 
  
   From: Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
  To: users@flex.apache.org users@flex.apache.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex
 
 
  Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache last
  year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.
 
 
  2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com
 
   Hi:
  
   What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they
  the
   same thing?
  
   Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I
 will
   find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
  
  
   I hope someone can give some explanation.
  
  
   Thanks.
  
 



Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread maven apache
Thank you, I got it. I will try to enjoy myself with Flex at flex.apache.org.
:) :).


2013/8/14 Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com

 Yes, you'll get the same application from the same source code using those
 IDEs. Just project organization that could vary, as each IDE has its own
 way to organize a project in order to get it compiled.

 Some IDEs allow you to import project structure from other IDEs project
 files also.


 2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com

  Thanks all your guys.
 
  Does it mean that the different IDE will generate the same application
  based on a specified Flex SDK?
 
 
  BTW, it seems that the navigation menu at `flex.apache.org` have some
  bughttps://www.dropbox.com/s/btp4nokok62ytx4/a.gif.
  (You have download the gif or it does not play)
 
  2013/8/14 Carl Kelvin carl_b...@yahoo.com
 
   Adobe flex was donated to Apache and become open source. Apache flex
 have
   a lot of additional features and new SDK was already release. You can
  visit
   their site @ www.flex.apache.org
  
  
   
From: Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
   To: users@flex.apache.org users@flex.apache.org
   Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:17 PM
   Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex
  
  
   Apache FLEX was before Adobe FLEX. It was donated by Adobe to Apache
 last
   year, so you'll find references to Apache from 4.8 version of the SDK.
  
  
   2013/8/14 maven apache apachemav...@gmail.com
  
Hi:
   
What is the difference between adobe flex and apache flex or are they
   the
same thing?
   
Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I
  will
find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
   
   
I hope someone can give some explanation.
   
   
Thanks.
   
  
 



Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread dude
 Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
 find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.

How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about Adobe
or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your questions. Here,
let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex

On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies
nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the
most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should
read as much as possible of the available information on the internet
yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is
usually a good starting point for that.
Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice
and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But
it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because
someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird
research you got there ...


Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Carlos Velasco
I think at the moment new people coming to flex world is to be welcomed
rather than being someway thrown away by a rude Make your homework first
and search the Internet properly before asking nonsense, please...

I have always found those kind of forum responses quite useless... When
someone doesn't know about something, he/she also doesn't know what to look
for or where to find exactly the contents that may make they pass their
learning curve.

So let's take some tolerance with newbies and try to guide them instead of
being so overbearing. Maybe not talking the same things again and again,
but giving them direct links to begin with or so.


2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com

  Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
  find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.

 How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about Adobe
 or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your questions. Here,
 let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex

 On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies
 nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the
 most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should
 read as much as possible of the available information on the internet
 yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is
 usually a good starting point for that.
 Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice
 and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But
 it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because
 someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird
 research you got there ...



RE: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread Mark Fuqua
Agreed.  The link, minus the three C's (Complaining, Condemning,
Criticizing) would have been helpful, welcoming and taken a ton less typing.

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Velasco [mailto:carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:57 AM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

I think at the moment new people coming to flex world is to be welcomed
rather than being someway thrown away by a rude Make your homework first
and search the Internet properly before asking nonsense, please...

I have always found those kind of forum responses quite useless... When
someone doesn't know about something, he/she also doesn't know what to look
for or where to find exactly the contents that may make they pass their
learning curve.

So let's take some tolerance with newbies and try to guide them instead of
being so overbearing. Maybe not talking the same things again and again, but
giving them direct links to begin with or so.


2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com

  Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I 
  will find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.

 How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about 
 Adobe or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your 
 questions. Here, let me help you: 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex

 On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies 
 nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the 
 most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should 
 read as much as possible of the available information on the internet 
 yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is 
 usually a good starting point for that.
 Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice 
 and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But 
 it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because 
 someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird 
 research you got there ...





Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread dude
You're right, helping people with their immediate problem is important,
and I actually did provide him with a link that should answer his
questions, so I wasn't saying go away, do your homework at all.

Still, research is a key skill for a developer, no matter the technology
or learning-state you are in. Whatever, wrong place for that topic. EOD
IMHO.

Am 14.08.2013 14:57, schrieb Carlos Velasco:
 I think at the moment new people coming to flex world is to be welcomed
 rather than being someway thrown away by a rude Make your homework first
 and search the Internet properly before asking nonsense, please...
 
 I have always found those kind of forum responses quite useless... When
 someone doesn't know about something, he/she also doesn't know what to look
 for or where to find exactly the contents that may make they pass their
 learning curve.
 
 So let's take some tolerance with newbies and try to guide them instead of
 being so overbearing. Maybe not talking the same things again and again,
 but giving them direct links to begin with or so.
 
 
 2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com
 
 Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
 find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.

 How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about Adobe
 or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your questions. Here,
 let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex

 On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies
 nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the
 most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should
 read as much as possible of the available information on the internet
 yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is
 usually a good starting point for that.
 Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice
 and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But
 it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because
 someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird
 research you got there ...

 


Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Also keep in mind that these discussions are archived as well.  Which are
indexed by the search engines and will be available for anyone doing
research on this on the future.

And here is the history of Flex after the donation to Apache:
http://flex.apache.org/about-history.html

Thanks,
Om
On Aug 14, 2013 7:10 AM, Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
wrote:

 As always... there are ways to say the things... not all may sound polite
 and helping to who is asking for help and... You know nothing about the
 person that is asking, so your assumptions about what he should have done
 might be wrong according to his/her condition. That was what I tried to
 point you, feel free to take the advice or let it go.




 2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com

  You're right, helping people with their immediate problem is important,
  and I actually did provide him with a link that should answer his
  questions, so I wasn't saying go away, do your homework at all.
 
  Still, research is a key skill for a developer, no matter the technology
  or learning-state you are in. Whatever, wrong place for that topic. EOD
  IMHO.
 
  Am 14.08.2013 14:57, schrieb Carlos Velasco:
   I think at the moment new people coming to flex world is to be welcomed
   rather than being someway thrown away by a rude Make your homework
  first
   and search the Internet properly before asking nonsense, please...
  
   I have always found those kind of forum responses quite useless... When
   someone doesn't know about something, he/she also doesn't know what to
  look
   for or where to find exactly the contents that may make they pass their
   learning curve.
  
   So let's take some tolerance with newbies and try to guide them instead
  of
   being so overbearing. Maybe not talking the same things again and
 again,
   but giving them direct links to begin with or so.
  
  
   2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com
  
   Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I
  will
   find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.
  
   How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about
 Adobe
   or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your questions.
 Here,
   let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex
  
   On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies
   nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the
   most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should
   read as much as possible of the available information on the internet
   yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is
   usually a good starting point for that.
   Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice
   and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But
   it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because
   someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird
   research you got there ...
  
  
 



Re: adobe flex vs apache flex

2013-08-14 Thread maven apache
Please.

I have googled `adobe flex vs apache flex` even 'flex adobe apache` before
I ask in this maillist.

None of the result tell me about the relation but only `adobe have donated
the SDK to apache`.


But generally, if one project is donated to a third-party organization, so
most of support/docs will be found at the organization, event there is a
link in the old owner, it will redirect to the new site.

For example, `OpenOffice`, oralce donated it to apache. Now you search it
in google, you can hardly find anything about oralce. So this will make no
confusion.

Back to Flex, 
thishttps://www.diigo.com/item/p/prpopsbzbqosqapcczbbbdcrec/4cf564acf1feccd84acbf6a409f69ed3is
what I got.

So I am confused.

So I ask this question in this maillist because I prefer to apache by its
wonderful open-source project(tomcat is my favorite ).

So, trust me, I would ask if I have other choice.


2013/8/14 dude d...@atheist.com

  Because I am new in flex, once I search some questions in google, I will
  find most of them links will refer to the adobe site.

 How can you not check Wikipedia first if there is an article about Adobe
 or Apache Flex at all? I'm sure it answers most of your questions. Here,
 let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Flex

 On a side note: So, is that how people start using new technologies
 nowadays? Going straight to the mailing list asking people about the
 most basic things? What about some research first? Usually you should
 read as much as possible of the available information on the internet
 yourself before you start asking questions like this. Wikipedia is
 usually a good starting point for that.
 Don't get me wrong, you will get answers here because people are nice
 and like to share their knowledge, this is what OSS is all about. But
 it's a PITA to answer such questions over and over again just because
 someone can't do the most basic online search. Some really weird
 research you got there ...