date:20130723



I think Win7 may think LO 4.x is the upgrade to 3.x and decide that to 
install the newer version it must uninstall the older one.  I have 
noticed that with a lot of packages lately.  Win7 deletes any previous 
versions of the software before the newer one is installed.


To be honest
For most users, they would want that to happen.  The "average" user does 
not want multiple versions of a package installed on a Windows system.  
So, I would say that Win7 or even Win8, might thing it is a proper thing 
to do, uninstall old before new is installed to avoid package conflicts 
or mis-matched DLL files, etc., etc..





On 07/23/2013 09:01 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Virgil,

Not sure how far down the rabbit hole you'd like to go, but the simple truth is 
that full installs of LibreOffice 3.x and LibreOffice 4.x use identical 
components of Microsoft Windows registry and system paths and are mutually 
exclusive.

One can happily run multiple versions of LibreOffice (or a mix of LibreOffice 
and OpenOffice), but they will not be fully integrated with Microsoft Windows 
OS--and at any given time only one can be fully integrated with the Windows OS.

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice 
installer behaves by default. If you need it to do something else you have to 
do more than click on the installer.  And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer 
behaves exactly the same, but is less functional in migrating user settings and 
supporting extensions.

Stuart


From: Virgil Arrington [cuyfa...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:52 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did.

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-23 Thread V Stuart Foote

Virgil,

Not sure how far down the rabbit hole you'd like to go, but the simple truth is 
that full installs of LibreOffice 3.x and LibreOffice 4.x use identical 
components of Microsoft Windows registry and system paths and are mutually 
exclusive.

One can happily run multiple versions of LibreOffice (or a mix of LibreOffice 
and OpenOffice), but they will not be fully integrated with Microsoft Windows 
OS--and at any given time only one can be fully integrated with the Windows OS.

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice 
installer behaves by default. If you need it to do something else you have to 
do more than click on the installer.  And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer 
behaves exactly the same, but is less functional in migrating user settings and 
supporting extensions.

Stuart


From: Virgil Arrington [cuyfa...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:52 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did.

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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[libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did. 

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

On 07/23/2013 04:40 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:

On 07/21/2013 04:30 AM, Peter Maunder wrote:

Bad2theBone wrote

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Just recently started checking out Fedora 19 on another system.
This version comes with LibreOffice 4.1. I found that I was not
able to setup my Persona settings in this version. My main system
has 4.0.4.2 and just on a hunch I copied the libreoffice sub-dir
in .config to my test system after renaming it on that system. It
now works, although I haven't tried changing it now that I think
of it since doing that.

Anyone know enough about the config db or file to shed some light
on why this happened. Also is there any major difference between
config tool in 4.0 verses 4.1 that could create problems? Or is
it possible to be a Fedora thing and not generic LibreOffice
problem?

Have a look at bugs 63498 and 59230 to see whether yours is a
related problem. I have the same symptoms with 4.1 debian install
and Ubuntu 12.04 and Mint-Mate Maya... Peter

I use Ubuntu 12.04 and MATE desktop and have seen no issues with using
the Persona option. I have no problem in changing it to whatever one I
want, as long as I have the URL of the Firefox persona page. I have
made 26 persona "files" and posted them on FF's site and change my 4.0.4
version on Ubuntu and Windows every so often. No problems so far.

So are you telling us that 4.1.0.x has given up our ease of
using/changing persona[s]?

The only thing that 4.0.x had issues with, in the past, was using the
font/text color that was defined withing the persona. In the past, if
you had a dark background and light text defined, LO did not pick up the
light text color and the text was shown in "default black" text. There
was a move to fix that issue. Could that work caused the current
issues? I do not know. Of course, I have to tried 4.1.0.x - since I
rarely install a RC version of package.

Yes, that's exactly what I experienced. For now I have the .config
sub-dirs from my system running Fedora 18 and LO 4.0.4.2 copied onto
the system running Fedora 19 and LO 4.1.?.?. Since I saved my original
config on that system I may try restoring it and manually create the
persona sud-dir with the jpg files.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

2013-07-23 Thread V Stuart Foote

Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative 
installs) they will interfere in subtle ways.

Actions to mitigate:

1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice 
and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from 
AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both.

2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration 
enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail 
views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also 
leave that unchecked when installing.

3) Finally, if using the "release" rather than development builds. The Windows 
registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should 
coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any 
particular ODF or MS Office format.  So keep track of that.

Good luck.


From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM
To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Hi :)
I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 
2 versions of AOO or OOo.  Basically avoid having both open at the same time.  
That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them.

This link might help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows
Regards from
Tom :)


>
> From: Virgil Arrington 
>To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
>
>
>Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on 
>the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) 
>search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which 
>better meets my techno-needs.
>
>Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing problems - US Letter / A4



So Peter

If the French person went into that "/etc/papersize" file and made sure 
it was listed as A4, then all of the printer drivers in her Debian [or 
Debian-based] system will automatically default to A4? Will LO then 
default to A4 for the default paper sizes of the printer and document?


Also, have you found any place where you pick up using Postscript 
instead of PDF for the default printer language used for all the 
printers connected to that system?


Like I stated before, I have only 3 active network printers, and one 
that is almost never used, attached to my network and about a half-dozen 
Ubuntu/Windows systems to setup to the Postscript printer language over 
PDF.  So I have it easy.  The OP has about 20 printers and who-knows the 
number of systems attached to the network.  There has to be an easier 
way than what I do to make sure the printers use Postscript.




On 07/23/2013 04:17 PM, Peter Maunder wrote:

In an Ubuntu system, the default papersize is held in the /etc/papersize
file. If you set the language to say US, papersize can be set to US Letter
even though the printer default is actually A4. Similarly an English system
in America can be set to A4 although the actual printer is US Letter. It is
the difference between the actual Language setting and the physical printer.

I would always advise you check this setting before setting the LibreOffice
printer defaults. Peter



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Thanks, Tom. I always disable quickstarter as a matter of course.

Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Davies

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; us...@openoffice.apache.org ; 
users@global.libreoffice.org

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Hi :)
I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or 
any 2 versions of AOO or OOo.  Basically avoid having both open at the same 
time.  That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them.

This link might help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows
Regards from
Tom :)

From: Virgil Arrington 
To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on 
the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) 
search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which 
better meets my techno-needs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Hi :)
I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 
2 versions of AOO or OOo.  Basically avoid having both open at the same time.  
That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them.  

This link might help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Virgil Arrington 
>To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
> 
>
>Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on 
>the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) 
>search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which 
>better meets my techno-needs.
>
>Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Upscope

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:39:06 AM Steve Edmonds wrote:
> On 2013-07-24 10:12, Upscope wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:18:58 AM Steve Edmonds wrote:
> >> On 2013-07-24 00:55, Jean Milot wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> I search how  to :
> >>> 
> >>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
> >>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
> >>> 
> >>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
> >>> 
> >>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
> >>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for your help.
> >>> 
> >>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
> >>> 
> >>> LO : last version
> >>> 
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> 
> >>> Jean
> >> 
> >> Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document
> >> also. I have to set printing to postscript for every document
> >> because
> >> it does not stay with the setting.
> >> Steve
> > 
> > Steve look under File --> Printer setup-->Properties-->Device (at
> > least in CALC). Think its the same in writter.
> > 
> > lower left says: "Printer Language TYpe to Right is selection box
> > 
> >   I selected "Automatic: PostScript (Level from driver).
> > 
> > You can also select actual level with pull down arrow at end of box.
> > Whn I shut CALC down and restart it is still there.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Russ
> 
> Thanks Russ. That is what should happen, but for me (and others) it
> always reverts to PDF when I open Calc again.
> There has been quite some discussion on this previously around not
> being able to print landscape from LO, it is just something I need to
> remember to do.
> Steve
Me too! I was having this problem since upgrading, until I read Kracked 
_P_P's thread above. I completly forgot to change it. 
I am using LO: Version: 4.1.0.1
Build ID: 410m0(Build:1) 
and so far it is retaining the Postscript option. I have opened and 
closed both CALC and Writter several times. I will see what happens 
tonight when I shut down.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 2013-07-24 10:12, Upscope wrote:

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:18:58 AM Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 2013-07-24 00:55, Jean Milot wrote:

Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean

Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document
also. I have to set printing to postscript for every document because
it does not stay with the setting.
Steve

Steve look under File --> Printer setup-->Properties-->Device (at least
in CALC). Think its the same in writter.

lower left says: "Printer Language TYpe to Right is selection box
  I selected "Automatic: PostScript (Level from driver).

You can also select actual level with pull down arrow at end of box.
Whn I shut CALC down and restart it is still there.

Hope this helps.

Russ
Thanks Russ. That is what should happen, but for me (and others) it 
always reverts to PDF when I open Calc again.
There has been quite some discussion on this previously around not being 
able to print landscape from LO, it is just something I need to remember 
to do.

Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Upscope

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:18:58 AM Steve Edmonds wrote:
> On 2013-07-24 00:55, Jean Milot wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I search how  to :
> > 
> > - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
> > - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
> > 
> > And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
> > 
> > "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
> > ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
> > 
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
> > 
> > LO : last version
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > Jean
> 
> Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document
> also. I have to set printing to postscript for every document because
> it does not stay with the setting.
> Steve
Steve look under File --> Printer setup-->Properties-->Device (at least 
in CALC). Think its the same in writter.

lower left says: "Printer Language TYpe to Right is selection box
 I selected "Automatic: PostScript (Level from driver).

You can also select actual level with pull down arrow at end of box. 
Whn I shut CALC down and restart it is still there.

Hope this helps.

Russ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Castaline

So I took it a step further and manually added the persona sub-dir
under the gallery sub-dir along with the jpg files within the folder.
I then manually edited the registrymodifications.xcu file (xml file
type) and just copied text within  in "PersonaSettings"
line from the working file to the broken 4.1.?.? version of the file.
I'm not sure what other changes there are between the 2 so I just
edited the broken one. I am still not able to change from the dialog.
It still will not allow the editing of the url within the box.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Conflicts?

Yes, I should have clarified that I am running Windows 7 on a Sony Laptop.

Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Hagar Delest

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:25 PM
To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Conflicts?

Can't say for sure on Windows (but I don't think there would be any 
problem).
Under GNU/Linux, you need to install them with the official packages from 
their respective website. Using the version delivered by your distro may 
lead to dependency problems.

Hagar

Le 23/07/2013 21:38, Virgil Arrington a écrit :

Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed 
on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly 
futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to 
see which better meets my techno-needs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Castaline


On 07/21/2013 04:30 AM, Peter Maunder wrote:
> Bad2theBone wrote
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> Just recently started checking out Fedora 19 on another system.
>> This version comes with LibreOffice 4.1. I found that I was not
>> able to setup my Persona settings in this version. My main system
>> has 4.0.4.2 and just on a hunch I copied the libreoffice sub-dir
>> in .config to my test system after renaming it on that system. It
>> now works, although I haven't tried changing it now that I think
>> of it since doing that.
>> 
>> Anyone know enough about the config db or file to shed some light
>> on why this happened. Also is there any major difference between
>> config tool in 4.0 verses 4.1 that could create problems? Or is
>> it possible to be a Fedora thing and not generic LibreOffice
>> problem?
> 
> Have a look at bugs 63498 and 59230 to see whether yours is a
> related problem. I have the same symptoms with 4.1 debian install
> and Ubuntu 12.04 and Mint-Mate Maya... Peter
> 
Yes, that's exactly what I experienced. For now I have the .config
sub-dirs from my system running Fedora 18 and LO 4.0.4.2 copied onto
the system running Fedora 19 and LO 4.1.?.?. Since I saved my original
config on that system I may try restoring it and manually create the
persona sud-dir with the jpg files.
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing problems - US Letter / A4

2013-07-23 Thread Peter Maunder

In an Ubuntu system, the default papersize is held in the /etc/papersize
file. If you set the language to say US, papersize can be set to US Letter
even though the printer default is actually A4. Similarly an English system
in America can be set to A4 although the actual printer is US Letter. It is
the difference between the actual Language setting and the physical printer. 

I would always advise you check this setting before setting the LibreOffice
printer defaults. Peter



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Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration


On 07/20/2013 12:21 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 20/07/2013 at 17:26, "Heinrich Stoellinger"  wrote:


I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf
... I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the
main installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that?

You are obviously talking about Linux, but since you did not specify
distribution, we have to guess...

Anyway, desktop integration packages has been moved from their own directory
into packages directory. In Debian and derivatives that is:
libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-3_all.deb


So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the 
desktop menus?  So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need?


That would be welcome.

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[libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the 
same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for 
computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my 
techno-needs.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Visible currency rounding

2013-07-23 Thread toodr

I had the same problem. I needed to implement the so called Bankers' Rounding
Function, which would round with respect to the 4/5 rule. And finally I
ended doing it myself in a short Function in LO Basic. I tried my best,
although math  and programming are not my strong sides. So here it is,
together with a Subroutine called "rounded_test" and the very Function is
called "Rounded".


Sub rounded_test
N=20.45454545454545454545
N= Rounded(N)
N=0
End Sub

REM Banker's Rounding Function
REM Accepsts parameter as Double with or without a sign +/-
REM Returns Double  with or without a sign +/-,rounded to the second diggit
after the comma separator
Function Rounded (NumD As Double)
Dim NumI as Integer
Dim position as Integer
position=0
Dim overflow as Integer
overflow=0
Dim NumS as String

REM initilize 2 arrays (integer and string) and we save the number into them
NumS=Format( NumD, "0.")
len01=LEN(NumS)
Dim Stringarray(len01-1) as String
Dim Integerarray(len01-1) as Integer
For i=1 to len01
string0=Mid(NumS,i,1)
If string0="." Or string0="," Then
Stringarray(i-1)="."
Integerarray(i-1)=0
position=i
Else
Stringarray(i-1)=string0
Integerarray(i-1)=Val(string0)
End if
next i

string0="" 'Emptying the variable which will be used to return the number -
string
REM Rounding
If position=0 Then 'an integer without a fraction part - return the number
as it is!
Rounded=NumD
Exit Function
Else
End If
If len01-position>2 Then'will be rounding
For j=1 to len01-position-2 '(len01-position-2) number of 
diggits till the
end of the number string which will be dropped out
If Integerarray(len01-j)>5 Or overflow=1 Or 
(Integerarray(len01-j)=5 And
(Stringarray(len01-j-1)="1" Or Stringarray(len01-j-1)="3"  Or
Stringarray(len01-j-1)="5"  Or Stringarray(len01-j-1)="7"  Or
Stringarray(len01-j-1)="9")) Then
overflow=1
If Integerarray(len01-j-1)+overflow<=9 Then 
Integerarray(len01-j-1)=Integerarray(len01-j-1)+overflow
overflow=0
Else
Integerarray(len01-j-1)=0
overflow=1
End if
Integerarray(len01-j)=0
Stringarray(len01-j)="0"
Stringarray(len01-j-1)=CStr(Integerarray(len01-j-1))
Else
Integerarray(len01-j)=0
Stringarray(len01-j)="0"
End If
Next j
'If we have some left over, remaining after the removal of the exessive
diggits, we shall distribute it 
'among the remaining integer and fractional part
If overflow=1 Then
For k=position to 0 step -1
If k=position-1 Then goto Lbl   'skip this if it is a comma or 
point
separator
If k=0 And (Stringarray(k)="-" Or Stringarray(k)="+") Then goto 
Lbl 'skip
this if it is a +/- sign
If Integerarray(k)+overflow<=9 Then
Integerarray(k)=Integerarray(k)+overflow
overflow=0
Else
Integerarray(k)=0
overflow=1
End if
Stringarray(k)=CStr(Integerarray(k))
Lbl:next k
Else
End If
'Check if we have a +/- sign in front
If Stringarray(0)="-" Or Stringarray(0)="+" Then 
string0=Stringarray(0)
'If we have still some overflow remaining,
If overflow=1 Then
'We add 1 in front but, after the sign
string0=string0 & "1"
'Construct the remainder of the number
For i=2 to len01
string0=string0 & Stringarray(i-1)
next i
Else 'Without a sign in front
'Construct the remainder of the number
For i=2 to len01
string0=string0 & Stringarray(i-1)
next i
End If
Else
'If we have still some overflow remaining,
If overflow=1 Then
'We add 1 in front
string0=string0 & "1"
'Construct the remainder of the number
For i=1 to len01
string0=string0 & Stringarray(i-1)
next i
Else 'Without a sign in front
'Construct the remainder of the number
For i=1 to len01
string0=string0 & Stringarray(i-1)
next i
End If
End If
string0=Format( Val(string0),
"0.###

Re: [libreoffice-users] Base & PostgreSQL Transactions

2013-07-23 Thread Don Parris

Thanks Mark, that certainly looks interesting.  I may just check it out.
Even so, that puts a damper on a short-term solution.




On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:

> Hey Don,
>
> I've not bought one yet, but this is the best reference I've found out
> about for LO Base.  It's based on OOo Base, but that's most likely not a
> real issue.  The one biggest problem with LO Base is the decided lack of
> documentation.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=**nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%**
> 3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=**Database+Programming+with+**
> OpenOffice.org+Base+%26+Basic+
>
>
> On 07/19/2013 04:31 PM, Don Parris wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andrew,
>>
>> So far, none of the links really strike me as helpful.  Sorry, but this is
>> fairly new territory to me.
>>
>> I had hoped I would find a tutorial something along the lines of:
>> We're going to create a way for users to enter/update data across a few
>> tables in a single transaction.
>> Here's how you do it using macros/BASIC...  Here's how you do it using the
>> DB's native capabilities...
>> In order to stop our form from entering the data into each field as we
>> type, we need to do so and so...
>> Now to collect all the data and click submit...
>>
>> How does one prevent the form "inserting" the data "on the fly" - do I use
>> a macro?  Should I write a function or procedure on my PGSQL server to run
>> when the user clicks "Submit" in the base form?  And how do I get the
>> "Submit" action down to Postgres to run the transaction procedure?
>>
>> I get the commit() function (
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/**
>> Database/Using_DBMS_Features
>> ).
>> ..
>>
>> But isn't there a "BEGIN" statement?
>>
>> I think what I will do is move my DB forward at its current level and read
>> up on transactions, triggers and procedures - as well as on LO Basic &
>> Macros - so I can implement the transaction stuff later.  I bet it's a lot
>> simpler to understand than I think.  But having to look in 20 different
>> locations for little pieces of info - and then figure which pieces go
>> where
>> in my problem is more than I really have time for right now.
>>
>> If & when I do figure it out, I'll have to write a tutorial on it for
>> sure.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Don
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <
>> and...@pitonyak.org> wrote:
>>
>>  The ODF Authors are working on a DB guide, I do not know the current
>>> state
>>> of it, have you looked for it (or at it)?
>>> https://wiki.**documentfoundat**ion.org/images/**5/50/BH40-**
>>> BaseHandbook.odt
>>> >> 5/50/BH40-BaseHandbook.odt
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> These may also be of interest:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/**
>>> Database/Using_DBMS_Features#Transaction_Handling>> wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Documentation/DevGuide/**
>>> Database/Using_DBMS_Features#**Transaction_Handling
>>> >
>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/**
>>> Database/Using_DBMS_Features>> wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/**Database/Using_DBMS_Features
>>> >
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/**star/**
>>> sdbc/TransactionIsolation.**html>> org/api/docs/common/ref/com/**sun/star/sdbc/**TransactionIsolation.html
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> This document mentions transactions in passing
>>> http://www.baseprogramming.com/OOBasicDatabaseDev.pdf>> p://www.baseprogramming.com/**OOBasicDatabaseDev.pdf
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not remember if I discuss transactions at all in AndrewBase.odt
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/18/2013 04:05 PM, Don Parris wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi all,

 I have a 4-table DB in PostgreSQL to which I connect using LibreOffice
 Base.  I have a form with 2 subforms in place that allows me to:
 Select an existing entity (from the ENTITY table)
 Add a new financial transaction (to the TRANSREC table)
 Add new line items for each transaction (to the TRANSDETAILS table).

 I would like to take advantage of PostGRESQL's underlyi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 2013-07-24 00:55, Jean Milot wrote:

Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean

Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document also.
I have to set printing to postscript for every document because it does 
not stay with the setting.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

Hi :)
So i do that to the printer-server, or to individual desktops?  I kinda like 
the idea of settign the setting at the printer and leaving the desktops to use 
that as their default.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Walther Koehler 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 17:28
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
> 
>
>Hi,
>
>if you are with cups on Debian or similar configuration use
>
>lpoptions your_printer -o media=A4
>
>in a shell script
>
>Walther
>
>Am Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013 schrieb Tom Davies:
>> Hi :)
>> I find that tricky too actually.  Everyone in this country seems to have
>> their printers configured to print on US letter despite actually using A4. 
>> Then if someone sends them an A4 page to print onto the A4 it comes out as
>> 2 pages with just a tiny bit of the page printed at the top of the next
>> sheet. 
>>
>> On my own machines, well the company's machines, i go around and set them
>> to print on A4 but then if a new machine arrives i have no idea whether
>> it's trying to print to A4 or what.  Also what about new users logging in
>> at a machine they haven't used before?  Are they now on US Letter again or
>> not? 
>>
>>
>> It seems that with LibreOffice it always seems to know that A4 should be
>> being used.  None of this messing around.  Regards from
>> Tom :) 
>>
>> >
>> > From: Jean Milot 
>> >To: Jay Lozier 
>> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 15:32
>> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I haven't problem with the drivers.
>> >
>> >I have about 20 printers configured.
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >
>> >Jean
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/7/23 Jay Lozier 
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Hello,
>> >>
>> >>> I search how  to :
>> >>>
>> >>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>> >>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>> >>>
>> >>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>> >>>
>> >>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>> >>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your help.
>> >>>
>> >>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>> >>>
>> >>> LO : last version
>> >>>
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jean
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Jean,
>> >>
>> >> To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631
>> >> get to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For
>> >> example some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed
>> >> under Minolta.
>> >>
>> >> I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong
>> >> driver is installed.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> jsloz...@gmail.com
>> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

Hi :)
Ahhh, right!  So when i have just logged into the printers and set it there it 
should mean all the machines pick-up the A4 setting from there.  So it's not a 
per desktop-machine setting?  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 15:00
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
> 
>
>On 07/23/2013 08:55 AM, Jean Milot wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I search how  to :
>>
>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>>
>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>>
>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>>
>> LO : last version
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>
>Are you trying to set these printer defaults for LibreOffice only, or 
>for all printer?
>
>I assume you are using Debian based system, like Ubuntu or Mint, if not 
>Debian itself. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.0.4.
>
>For my system, I would go to
>
>Applications / Office / Printer Administration
>
>Then set the printer defaults there.
>See if that helps.
>
>Since you use a printserver, it seems, on a system you do not have 
>control of, there are not as many options.
>
>You are in a region of the world that uses A4 paper size, right?  Why 
>would the printers be setup as that size by default?
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

Hi,

if you are with cups on Debian or similar configuration use

lpoptions your_printer -o media=A4

in a shell script

Walther

Am Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013 schrieb Tom Davies:
> Hi :)
> I find that tricky too actually.  Everyone in this country seems to have
> their printers configured to print on US letter despite actually using A4. 
> Then if someone sends them an A4 page to print onto the A4 it comes out as
> 2 pages with just a tiny bit of the page printed at the top of the next
> sheet. 
>
> On my own machines, well the company's machines, i go around and set them
> to print on A4 but then if a new machine arrives i have no idea whether
> it's trying to print to A4 or what.  Also what about new users logging in
> at a machine they haven't used before?  Are they now on US Letter again or
> not? 
>
>
> It seems that with LibreOffice it always seems to know that A4 should be
> being used.  None of this messing around.  Regards from
> Tom :) 
>
> >
> > From: Jean Milot 
> >To: Jay Lozier 
> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 15:32
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I haven't problem with the drivers.
> >
> >I have about 20 printers configured.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Jean
> >
> >
> >
> >2013/7/23 Jay Lozier 
> >
> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello,
> >>
> >>> I search how  to :
> >>>
> >>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
> >>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
> >>>
> >>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
> >>>
> >>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
> >>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>
> >>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
> >>>
> >>> LO : last version
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Jean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Jean,
> >>
> >> To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631
> >> get to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For
> >> example some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed
> >> under Minolta.
> >>
> >> I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong
> >> driver is installed.
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems



You want to get all of the printers to work no matter what applications 
print to them?  You have how many PCs on your network?


In another post you state there are 20 printers configured.

So far, I do not know of any easy way to setup 5, 10, or 20 users to 
have the same settings for LibreOffice, and add over 10 printers in the 
mix makes it worse.


How many of these printers have a display panel build in?  I know that 
you can set the default paper types there.  But you still need to setup 
the LO application to default to the printer.


Is there any way you can setup a default

".config/libreoffice"

hidden folder and place it on every PC running LO.  If you create one 
that has no user info in it, you should be able to copy it to the other 
Debian-based PCs.  Windows users would be harder.


To be honest, I have only about 6 systems configured for, currently, 
three network printers.  Two systems are dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows 
laptops.


But it seems you are wanting to set up many printers to the Postscript 
instead of PDF on several computers.


Sorry, but there is no easy way to do this.

As I said, you can use the LO Printer Administration application listed 
in the same menu as LibreOffice.  That will be the easiest way to work 
on all of the printers that that computer has access to.  Click on the 
printer and the Properties button.  Go to the "Device" option and change 
the "printer language type" of the selected printer.  That is the only 
way I know how to do it easily for all the printers that that computer 
has access to.


Then if you did not set up any information in the

Tools / Options / LibreOffice / User Data

that is only for that system, then you may have the "generic" 
".config/libreoffice" information that could be copied to the other 
Debian-based computers you are using on your network.  By replacing the 
original file with this "generic one" you should have all of the systems 
setup the same way.  The only issue might be if you are running both 
32-bit and 64-bit Debian-based systems on your network.


Of course I am assuming that you are not the only one on the network 
with 20 printers to do your bidding.



On 07/23/2013 10:09 AM, Jean Milot wrote:

Hi,

I search to set A4 paper size only in LibreOffice because i have set 
in my printserver CUPS the option A4.


In France, we use this paper size. If the paper size is US Letter in 
LO, i doesn't work.


I would like that the settings would be done for all the users.

I use Debian squeeze with Trinity Desktop.

Sincerely,

Jean




2013/7/23 Kracked_P_P---webmaster >


On 07/23/2013 08:55 AM, Jean Milot wrote:

Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean



Are you trying to set these printer defaults for LibreOffice only,
or for all printer?

I assume you are using Debian based system, like Ubuntu or Mint,
if not Debian itself. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.0.4.

For my system, I would go to

Applications / Office / Printer Administration

Then set the printer defaults there.
See if that helps.

Since you use a printserver, it seems, on a system you do not have
control of, there are not as many options.

You are in a region of the world that uses A4 paper size, right?
 Why would the printers be setup as that size by default?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

Hi :)
I find that tricky too actually.  Everyone in this country seems to have their 
printers configured to print on US letter despite actually using A4.  Then if 
someone sends them an A4 page to print onto the A4 it comes out as 2 pages with 
just a tiny bit of the page printed at the top of the next sheet.  

On my own machines, well the company's machines, i go around and set them to 
print on A4 but then if a new machine arrives i have no idea whether it's 
trying to print to A4 or what.  Also what about new users logging in at a 
machine they haven't used before?  Are they now on US Letter again or not?  


It seems that with LibreOffice it always seems to know that A4 should be being 
used.  None of this messing around.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Jean Milot 
>To: Jay Lozier  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 15:32
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
> 
>
>Hi,
>
>I haven't problem with the drivers.
>
>I have about 20 printers configured.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Jean
>
>
>
>2013/7/23 Jay Lozier 
>
>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I search how  to :
>>>
>>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>>>
>>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>>>
>>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>>>
>>> LO : last version
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jean,
>>
>> To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631 get
>> to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For example
>> some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed under Minolta.
>>
>> I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong driver
>> is installed.
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Jean Milot

Hi,

I haven't problem with the drivers.

I have about 20 printers configured.

Sincerely,

Jean



2013/7/23 Jay Lozier 

> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot 
> wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>>
>> I search how  to :
>>
>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>>
>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>>
>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>>
>> LO : last version
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>  Jean,
>
> To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631 get
> to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For example
> some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed under Minolta.
>
> I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong driver
> is installed.
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] LO crash switching from page view

Here a more precise formulation of my former posting:

Hallo,

please confirm my observation:

Create a writer document with first page consisting of simply one paragraph 
mark per line, the lower half of them hard formatted "hidden", on 2nd page 
single letter i.e. "A".

Switching to page view shows the "A"  in the middle of a single page, when 
switching back to normal edit mode LO crashes.

LO  4.0.4.2 (also observed in LO 3.5.5.2)
Debian Linux

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Jay Lozier

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot   
wrote:



Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean



Jean,

To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631 get  
to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For example  
some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed under Minolta.


I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong driver  
is installed.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Jean Milot

Hi,

I search to set A4 paper size only in LibreOffice because i have set in my
printserver CUPS the option A4.

In France, we use this paper size. If the paper size is US Letter in LO, i
doesn't work.

I would like that the settings would be done for all the users.

I use Debian squeeze with Trinity Desktop.

Sincerely,

Jean




2013/7/23 Kracked_P_P---webmaster 

> On 07/23/2013 08:55 AM, Jean Milot wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I search how  to :
>>
>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>>
>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>>
>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>>
>> LO : last version
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
> Are you trying to set these printer defaults for LibreOffice only, or for
> all printer?
>
> I assume you are using Debian based system, like Ubuntu or Mint, if not
> Debian itself. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.0.4.
>
> For my system, I would go to
>
> Applications / Office / Printer Administration
>
> Then set the printer defaults there.
> See if that helps.
>
> Since you use a printserver, it seems, on a system you do not have control
> of, there are not as many options.
>
> You are in a region of the world that uses A4 paper size, right?  Why
> would the printers be setup as that size by default?
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems


On 07/23/2013 08:55 AM, Jean Milot wrote:

Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean




Are you trying to set these printer defaults for LibreOffice only, or 
for all printer?


I assume you are using Debian based system, like Ubuntu or Mint, if not 
Debian itself. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.0.4.


For my system, I would go to

Applications / Office / Printer Administration

Then set the printer defaults there.
See if that helps.

Since you use a printserver, it seems, on a system you do not have 
control of, there are not as many options.


You are in a region of the world that uses A4 paper size, right?  Why 
would the printers be setup as that size by default?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 2 news clippings of interest

Hi :)
What may be trivial to one person is a big deal to another.  Even just 
'trivial' changes have involved reading, understand, possibly translating and 
then re-typing stuff that is wy beyond the ken of most of us.  

A major part of the code clean-up has been taking out comments some of which 
are still there even though the code they were commenting about may have been 
dropped a decade ago.  The download size of LibreOffice is under 70% the size 
it was when the projects forked.  Smaller, lighter, faster might be trivial to 
some but many of us really appreciate the reduction in size and increase in 
speed.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Urmas 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 13:10
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 2 news clippings of interest
> 
>
>> only around 12% of the current code is  untouched OOo code!!
>
>Do you understand that this comes from an obsolete diff tool which treats 
>trivial changes like indents and comments as an entirely new code? 
>
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[libreoffice-users] Printing problems

2013-07-23 Thread Jean Milot

Hello,

I search how  to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean


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[libreoffice-users] Re: 2 news clippings of interest

2013-07-23 Thread Urmas


only around 12% of the current code is  untouched OOo code!!


Do you understand that this comes from an obsolete diff tool which treats 
trivial changes like indents and comments as an entirely new code? 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Automatic sizing of documents in single window

Hi :)
Please, when replying do a "Reply to all" or "Group reply" or "Reply to list".  
Thanks for trying to work-around the 'problem' of me getting duplicates of your 
replies but i really don't mind getting duplicates.  It's easy to hit the 
delete key.  I think we are supposed to delete-out individual's addresses from 
the "To" and "CC" fields but sometimes that means the person that posted 
doesn't get any of the replies because they are not properly subscribed to the 
mailing list.  It's easier just to send to the list and everyone and let them 
quickly hit their delete key when they see the same message got through twice.  


The mailing lists used to have a really clever way of handling all this but 
various people prefer it this way around :(  The rest of us have just learned 
to live with it.  


Sorry about all that!! 



It should be possible to "Cascade" any windows that are in a group on your 
taskbar surely?  Don't you just right-click on the 'button' on the taskbar and 
select "Cascade"?  Win Xp and earlier going back to Win98 had something like 
that didn't they?  Vista and Win7 too?  So, is this problem only happening on 
Win8?  


Also which version of LibreOffice are you using?  If you have any trouble at 
all with 4.1.0 then just uninstall it and go back to 4.0.4.  That 3rd digit 
show how many "service packs" the branch has had so about .4 becomes very very 
stable and predictable.  Most people will find even beta-testing versions 
plenty stable enough but some will find odd things that don't quite work for 
them, in which case just go back to the stable branch.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: "scott...@mailnull.com" 
>To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
>Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013, 20:57
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Automatic sizing of documents in single window
> 
>
>Hello, Tom, and thanks for replying
>
>The documents (at this time) are all text and spreadsheet.  The ones that I 
>open as a group all contain different, but related, information that I 
>consolidate or replace. After I get this data together, it will be time for 
>the slide-show (or dog and pony show, depending on whose watching.)
>
>In MSOffice, I had the option of selecting all or some of these and having 
>them tile or cascade in the window (using the MS terms.)  That's what I'm 
>trying to replicate.  Right now, I'm doing this manually, and anything of 
>three kills a great deal of time.  I may be out of luck or have to wait for 
>another version to roll out.
>
>Regards,
>Jumper
>
>BTW, the reply on the LO web site tried to send your answer to me to you 
>again, so I'm replying directly.
>
>Hi :)
>Is it a Draw document/picture or an Impress slide-show?  If so the extra panes 
>are for fairly crucial things you are likely to need when editing. 
>
>Regards from
>Tom :) 
>
>
>    From: jumper46 
>    To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>    Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013, 16:50
>    Subject: [libreoffice-users] Automatic sizing of documents in single window
>
>    Is there a function to automatically size several documents (as they are
>    brought into focus) into a single display window?  In Windows, one is 
>adding
>    panes to the window.  I wish  to eliminate having to resize every document
>    each time I add or remove another in the display.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] CRITBINOM function description is wrong

2013-07-23 Thread Mihovil Stanic


Done.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67205

Dana 22.7.2013. 23:11, Sérgio Marques je napisao:



2013/7/22 Mihovil Stanic >


Thank you for help Brian and Regina.
Sergio, can you please open bug report then and CC Andras so he
can fix it?


I don´t have an bugzilla account. Can You do it? Or someone with an 
account there.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Automatic sizing of documents in single window

Hi,

I have a question in that context:

How does LO (writer) determines the window size while opening a file?
I know, that one can set the page size and found, that LO stores in some way 
the window size of a file for display.
However, this is overridden when I run LO in command line mode (for printing, 
translation etc in a bash script). Thereafter all files newly openend in a 
distorted (small) window. I tried to manipulate the
registrymodifications.xcu
However, in regular intervals its overridden by someone else (LO?).
Thus, every time I open a file, I have to change the window size manually.

(Debian Linux, KDE 3.5, LO 3.5.5.2, 4.0.4.2)

Walther

Am Montag, 22. Juli 2013 schrieb jumper46:
> Is there a function to automatically size several documents (as they are
> brought into focus) into a single display window?  In Windows, one is
> adding panes to the window.  I wish  to eliminate having to resize every
> document each time I add or remove another in the display.
>
> Jumper
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