Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 11/06/2016 07:39 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 11/06/2016 07:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote: That's OK, Virgil, I hope you saw my reply to Tim--Kracked whatever that his instructions worked great. Ken I did, right after I hit "send." Tim - me - "Kracked P P" is short for Kracked Press Production. That was my first company, with krackedpress.com as its domain. To be honest, I learned several computer languages on mainframe computers while suffering from Dyslexia. Then had to deal with the aftermath of 3 strokes. I now keep important info, commands, and such, in various types of physical and digital "sticky notes". I know that others might not do things my way, or may have better ways. Yet, after the first stroke I had to look into "easier" work as a substitute teacher, while taking classes at night. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 11/06/2016 07:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote: > That's OK, Virgil, > > I hope you saw my reply to Tim--Kracked whatever that his instructions > worked great. > > Ken I did, right after I hit "send." -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
That's OK, Virgil, I hope you saw my reply to Tim--Kracked whatever that his instructions worked great. Ken On 11/6/16 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Ken, Every version of a Linux distribution has a codename. Ubuntu 14.04 is codenamed "Trusty" I assume that is what your error message is referring to, which makes no sense to me. I used that very PPA to install LO 5.1.6.2 to my Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) system. This has gotten way beyond my level of experience. I've run out of ideas, but I wonder if there are other issues with your computer beyond LO. Every method you have tried has failed, which makes me wonder if there's something amiss in your Mint installation itself. But, at this point, I'm truly just speculating. Good luck. Virgil On 11/06/2016 04:48 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Virgil, I've snipped the other parts of the message I'm replying to. On 11/4/16 7:37 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: If it were me, I would try Method 1. Mint is based on Ubuntu and I believe it uses the same PPAs I just got to trying your suggestion for method 1. That didn't work either. :-( I got a message that says "This PPA does not support Trusty." Don't know what Trusty means, but I'm going to take this over to the Linux Mint forums to solve the problem. We're getting a bit far afield from Libre Office. Thanks for the help. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/16 11:45 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer : Hi, Henri, On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote: Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if that's what you're after - are found here : https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well for me For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it better. But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop I have here in the future. For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO Calc on my Samsung laser. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" Hullo Ken ! There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find Mint 18 just a little bit better. I scrounged an old 2005 Dell Inspiron and installed 18 with the XFCE desktop today. I like that interface if I'm the one using it. But for beginners, I still think the Cinnamon desktop might be easier to grasp for newbies to computers. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint Forum for printers and scanners ( https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?... Well, 5.1.5 didn't solve the problem. But I almost never use a spreadsheet, so I'm not going to worry about it for now. With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you might want to consider installing the PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb files yourself !... Henri -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Ken, Every version of a Linux distribution has a codename. Ubuntu 14.04 is codenamed "Trusty" I assume that is what your error message is referring to, which makes no sense to me. I used that very PPA to install LO 5.1.6.2 to my Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) system. This has gotten way beyond my level of experience. I've run out of ideas, but I wonder if there are other issues with your computer beyond LO. Every method you have tried has failed, which makes me wonder if there's something amiss in your Mint installation itself. But, at this point, I'm truly just speculating. Good luck. Virgil On 11/06/2016 04:48 PM, Ken Springer wrote: > Hi, Virgil, > > I've snipped the other parts of the message I'm replying to. > > On 11/4/16 7:37 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> If it were me, I would try Method 1. Mint is based on Ubuntu and I >> believe it uses the same PPAs > > I just got to trying your suggestion for method 1. That didn't work > either. :-( > > I got a message that says "This PPA does not support Trusty." Don't > know what Trusty means, but I'm going to take this over to the Linux > Mint forums to solve the problem. > > We're getting a bit far afield from Libre Office. > > Thanks for the help. > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 11/1/16 7:55 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 10/31/2016 06:53 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will work well. Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But with OpenSUSE it works well. Regards Robert This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand. Gordon. [pardon me for issues in this text, since I have not slept much in the past week] I can find free ebooks for Ubuntu that have a lot of info about how to install and run Ubuntu. I keep the install commands in a "sticky note" on my laptop's display. I've got a small text file called "Useful Linux commands", one of which lets you access a Mac formatted HD. Actually I have "heard", from one of the email lists I read, of someone made a singles script to run that allows people to do all of the commands needed to install LO with needed prompts for password and yes/no. The only scripting I do is for the backups my internal 6.25 TB of data files to USB external drives. I need 6+ "rsync" commands to do the type of complex I need to make sure many of my folders have 4+ copies of many audio/video files and photo folders. This way I make sure all my digital photos and videos taken/recorded since 2005. Same with other files/content I want/need to keep. Many I cannot find online anymore. For the other parts of this thread, I do not use a PPA for LibreOffice, since I want to have the option to upgrade or downgrade LO when I want to. I have used PPAs in the past and have a few as well. For the users that do not install a PPA into the repository, most have instructions how to install it. I used OpenSUSE on a system that originally shipped with a paid version ending with "SUSE". After a while it was switched to Ubuntu. I have never heard anything about MX-Linux. I have used Ubuntu as my main OS since 2009. I chose Linux for the free software that was getting too expensive to buy what I needed for Windows XP and later Win7. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/16 1:53 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 10/31/2016 01:08 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Robert, On 10/30/16 12:33 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- For every installation on linux you could - - install as root/SuperUser - - install as user in your own directory Install as root/SuperUser: 1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language) 2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources) 3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could install all packages from there. I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge reared it's ugly head. ROFL In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager. But in none of those do I recognize anything that lets me point to folder I created. I.E. a point and click method. Is one of these the "install-program" you are referring to? Would the folder I created now be called a repository? If so, do I input the complete path? Which means I need to learn how Linux structures pathnames. Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles already assume some basic level of knowledge. Knowledge that does not always exist. :-( I do not get what is being said in 4 and 5 as well. What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb Hot diggety doo dah! It worked! Now I won't have to go to the Linux Mint forums. Thanks, Tim. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi, Robert, I went to the link you provided, and followed the instructions for Graphic Installation. I thought I'd done something wrong, but don't think I did. Every deb package gave me a message the dependency was not satisfiable, or something like that. So I don't know what went wrong. As I told Virgil Arrington, I'll go to the Linux Mint forums and find out how to get this done. Thanks for the help. On 10/31/16 2:08 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ken, I will have a look, if I find something special for your situation. Couldn't find a clear description for this problem when looking for Mint. But when I am looking for installing LO with Linux I found this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6S6AAoJELDKYwaoS9AIkQMP/i+eAaC3OhjeBekSjtTlvmiq dEIsAjReziWLbHf2oEt9MO9jyTbhBQYj0J6CwFpjsCmjTOwlx+xh6uio3L7KPRBh l3NGn+tQMi8DEg1D2/NPtxUQY+u2JgoYycEx6/iEOcASNdtS5iaYD6N1ypqRsEQ5 5MF1XNJtvX3mFFqRLJ/IfUMpcwQ1jw85uP1ii3sCLTnq1B9CG9jPZCWrO954qIHq Sy2VgjEBruXU1C1YIdphnoWGmEEkSJiHQkaDK+S6xBQmTRKqtMqodxUl6xgDKYyW KvjjYV9WIff6+6Yha0da5jQzKsh1k8RmWHWG98OEGQLa9JcAcwnVAxlQk67RCFFc lpbeazj+akrkbzsCV05xI2imZRD/+LORz7w9sU5J8EtAREh1jDpiHAMJd06BdeMe 37GoddldnAXSGImjVlYYFoO11/1MXilDmKHXJWbZiyP834gpeFlUEto5Z50WX9Wx uXk79BCAlbuDZjhPlNuDYcQUlNkdaFjBvRGcJt8ZZl6SsuWyAwDQRkWWNdabbI7a r3xnzhfFRJXuRJ7m7DDb+Kwo3WHBUG8kRtG4l2RKOoPBTafxWAiKPcHM/dS1X5aU lBIKNkfVaV89jp6fx1eGfsrP/jKbfBMBidvqJqVYPQqBSLKsFYHy0WNuYPvHat83 1HAtW/Qf6ROBUMBpG9PM =DX3p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi, Virgil, I've snipped the other parts of the message I'm replying to. On 11/4/16 7:37 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: If it were me, I would try Method 1. Mint is based on Ubuntu and I believe it uses the same PPAs I just got to trying your suggestion for method 1. That didn't work either. :-( I got a message that says "This PPA does not support Trusty." Don't know what Trusty means, but I'm going to take this over to the Linux Mint forums to solve the problem. We're getting a bit far afield from Libre Office. Thanks for the help. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Quoting Virgil Arrington : As I said before, I don't use Mint I do and here's what worked for me. Open a browser window to libreoffice.org then click on "download" LO guessed debian correctly and then the download button completed the download selection process. After the download is complete use the file browser to navigate to the downloaded file and click on it. A message asks for your root password and after it is given, steps through the installation process. Took me about 5 minutes on a nice fast line. Dave and claim no Mint or Linux expertise. I'm just an average Ubuntu user learning my way through. And, even then, my Ubuntu relationship is love/hate. When it works I love it; when it snip! -- "As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance." -- John Dewey -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 11/4/16 7:37 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: As I said before, I don't use Mint and claim no Mint or Linux expertise. I'm just an average Ubuntu user learning my way through. And, even then, my Ubuntu relationship is love/hate. When it works I love it; when it doesn't I wipe it off my computer and go back to Windows. After getting tired of how slow Windows is, I then reinstall Ubuntu and try again. LOL!!! I meet a lot of users who don't like where Windows is going, including me. Sadly, Apple has picked up the idea of forcing an upgrade to the OS whether you like it or not. Fortunately for me, my hardware just became too old to support Sierra. If it were me, I would try Method 1. Mint is based on Ubuntu and I believe it uses the same PPAs. Someone on this list confirmed that in response to my earlier message, but I sadly deleted the email before remembering his name. From what I understand, Method 1 and Method 2 do exactly the same thing. Method 1 is more "manual" and Method 2 uses a GUI, but either way, you're adding a repository and updating the system. Once you get comfortable with using a terminal, Method 1 is certainly easier and faster. Going with Method 1 was my next plan, depending upon your thoughts. I don't mind the Terminal, I just don't know any of the commands to speak of. But to cover my butt, I'll advise you to check with someone who actually uses Mint, perhaps the earlier poster here or someone on the Mint forum. I'm not using Mint for anything at all other than trying to find the time to learn it. I think that eventually that's the way I'll go when upgrading. Ken Good luck. Virgil On 11/03/2016 10:38 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/31/16 6:45 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. Method 1 I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 sudo apt-get update After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user password. The first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second line automatically updates your system to use it. Method 2 You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open Synaptic and click on Settings and then Repositories. In the Repositories dialog, click on Other Software, then click Add. Then type in ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 and click Add Source. You will be prompted to reload your software sources. Once you do that, you can click Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO packages that are to be updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded. Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any means an experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my software installation needs. I've never downloaded and installed a *.deb file. Instructions for these methods are found at: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1. I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will. Virgil Hi, Virgil, Method 2 does not work for me. Theory, the Synaptic Package Manager in 17.3 is a bit different than what you have seen. The exact steps you mentioned can't be done, and I made my "best guess" as to the correct selections I see in 17.3 here. What I've ended up with is a cursor that indicates things are locked up. On my Mac, it would be the "spinning beach ball of death", in Windows the endless rotating hourglass cursor. LOL I can hop over to the Linux Mint forums about this if that is your suggestion. Or I can go ahead and try Method 1. For others following this thread, I have a number of messages flagged to reply to, but I want to work with Method 2 and see if I can get it to work before replying to the flagged messages. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
As I said before, I don't use Mint and claim no Mint or Linux expertise. I'm just an average Ubuntu user learning my way through. And, even then, my Ubuntu relationship is love/hate. When it works I love it; when it doesn't I wipe it off my computer and go back to Windows. After getting tired of how slow Windows is, I then reinstall Ubuntu and try again. If it were me, I would try Method 1. Mint is based on Ubuntu and I believe it uses the same PPAs. Someone on this list confirmed that in response to my earlier message, but I sadly deleted the email before remembering his name. From what I understand, Method 1 and Method 2 do exactly the same thing. Method 1 is more "manual" and Method 2 uses a GUI, but either way, you're adding a repository and updating the system. Once you get comfortable with using a terminal, Method 1 is certainly easier and faster. But to cover my butt, I'll advise you to check with someone who actually uses Mint, perhaps the earlier poster here or someone on the Mint forum. Good luck. Virgil On 11/03/2016 10:38 PM, Ken Springer wrote: > On 10/31/16 6:45 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work >> with Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. >> >> >> Method 1 >> >> I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). >> >> I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. >> >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 >> >> sudo apt-get update >> >> After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user >> password. The first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second >> line automatically updates your system to use it. >> >> >> Method 2 >> >> You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open >> Synaptic and click on Settings and then Repositories. In the >> Repositories dialog, click on Other Software, then click Add. Then >> type in ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 and click Add Source. You >> will be prompted to reload your software sources. Once you do that, >> you can click Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO packages >> that are to be updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded. >> >> Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any >> means an experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my >> software installation needs. I've never downloaded and installed a >> *.deb file. Instructions for these methods are found at: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1. >> >> I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but >> since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will. >> >> Virgil > > Hi, Virgil, > > Method 2 does not work for me. Theory, the Synaptic Package Manager > in 17.3 is a bit different than what you have seen. The exact steps > you mentioned can't be done, and I made my "best guess" as to the > correct selections I see in 17.3 here. What I've ended up with is a > cursor that indicates things are locked up. On my Mac, it would be > the "spinning beach ball of death", in Windows the endless rotating > hourglass cursor. LOL > > I can hop over to the Linux Mint forums about this if that is your > suggestion. Or I can go ahead and try Method 1. > > For others following this thread, I have a number of messages flagged > to reply to, but I want to work with Method 2 and see if I can get it > to work before replying to the flagged messages. > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi. I am using Ubuntu xfce with LibreOffice without problems since years. I mostly download the .deb packages from the internet sites via browser: they are zipped, so I unpack them in a directory on the desktop, open a terminal in that directory and run the command sudo dpkg -i *.deb in each subfolder containing rhe .deb files. Before installing a new version you should better purge the previous one: sudo apt-get --purge libreoffice*. In the last version ubuntu uses apt instead of apt-get. You can find some good guides usin duckduckgo (or google) looking for 'install libreoffice on ubuntu x.y. Repos are not always updated and maintained for the lst versions (it happens they don't work properly), but installing from repository requires always sudo apt-get install. Unfortunately the last package manager in Ubuntu (Ubuntu software center) doesn't find always packages, it has still some bugs. Paolo On Friday, November 4, 2016 3:39 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/31/16 6:45 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with Mint, > which is based on Ubuntu. > > > Method 1 > > I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). > > I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 > > sudo apt-get update > > > Virgil Hi, Virgil, Method 2 does not work for me. Theory, the Synaptic Package Manager in 17.3 is a bit different than what you have seen. The exact steps you mentioned can't be done, and I made my "best guess" as to the correct selections I see in 17.3 here. What I've ended up with is a cursor -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/16 6:45 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. Method 1 I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 sudo apt-get update After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user password. The first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second line automatically updates your system to use it. Method 2 You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open Synaptic and click on Settings and then Repositories. In the Repositories dialog, click on Other Software, then click Add. Then type in ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 and click Add Source. You will be prompted to reload your software sources. Once you do that, you can click Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO packages that are to be updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded. Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any means an experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my software installation needs. I've never downloaded and installed a *.deb file. Instructions for these methods are found at: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1. I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will. Virgil Hi, Virgil, Method 2 does not work for me. Theory, the Synaptic Package Manager in 17.3 is a bit different than what you have seen. The exact steps you mentioned can't be done, and I made my "best guess" as to the correct selections I see in 17.3 here. What I've ended up with is a cursor that indicates things are locked up. On my Mac, it would be the "spinning beach ball of death", in Windows the endless rotating hourglass cursor. LOL I can hop over to the Linux Mint forums about this if that is your suggestion. Or I can go ahead and try Method 1. For others following this thread, I have a number of messages flagged to reply to, but I want to work with Method 2 and see if I can get it to work before replying to the flagged messages. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/2016 06:53 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will work well. Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But with OpenSUSE it works well. Regards Robert This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand. Gordon. [pardon me for issues in this text, since I have not slept much in the past week] I can find free ebooks for Ubuntu that have a lot of info about how to install and run Ubuntu. I keep the install commands in a "sticky note" on my laptop's display. Actually I have "heard", from one of the email lists I read, of someone made a singles script to run that allows people to do all of the commands needed to install LO with needed prompts for password and yes/no. The only scripting I do is for the backups my internal 6.25 TB of data files to USB external drives. I need 6+ "rsync" commands to do the type of complex I need to make sure many of my folders have 4+ copies of many audio/video files and photo folders. This way I make sure all my digital photos and videos taken/recorded since 2005. Same with other files/content I want/need to keep. Many I cannot find online anymore. For the other parts of this thread, I do not use a PPA for LibreOffice, since I want to have the option to upgrade or downgrade LO when I want to. I have used PPAs in the past and have a few as well. For the users that do not install a PPA into the repository, most have instructions how to install it. I used OpenSUSE on a system that originally shipped with a paid version ending with "SUSE". After a while it was switched to Ubuntu. I have never heard anything about MX-Linux. I have used Ubuntu as my main OS since 2009. I chose Linux for the free software that was getting too expensive to buy what I needed for Windows XP and later Win7. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Those PPA's work fine with Mint. You can also select another version, for example 5-2. This method will replace your current version. Updates to your selected version (5.1.x or 5.2.x, etc) are provided through the package system. This is more convenient versus manually downloading and installing each new version. This link describes these PPAs: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with > Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. > > > Method 1 > > I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). > > I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 > > sudo apt-get update > > After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user password. > The first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second line > automatically updates your system to use it. > > > Method 2 > > You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open Synaptic > and click on Settings and then Repositories. In the Repositories dialog, > click on Other Software, then click Add. Then type in > ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 and click Add Source. You will be > prompted to reload your software sources. Once you do that, you can click > Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO packages that are to be > updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded. > > Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any > means an experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my software > installation needs. I've never downloaded and installed a *.deb file. > Instructions for these methods are found at: > > https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1. > > I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but since > Mint is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will. > > Virgil > > > > > On 10/31/2016 06:53 PM, gordon cooper wrote: > > > On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Tim, > What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place > them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I > have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". > > This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager > package [on Mint] called "Caja". > > > Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE > desktop GUI] > > This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look > different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. > This is the default user folder for my laptop. > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ > > I type in "cd lib" > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib > > I get this folder shown > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ > > At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files > from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb > files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will > start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the > folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the > commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate > desktop] > > So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with > the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very > easy route. > > cd lib > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you > have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is > delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will > work well. > Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But > with OpenSUSE it works well. > > Regards > > Robert > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6a7AAoJELDKYwaoS9AI8moP/A2yuXifFabBdnXBSwAEABtJ > jhQfL8toi78UWYHKOTiAZ+eb4gRWjnq50SPjanxoako43ogYG8nNHqsIhEavsUta > TBbYXRRvoJBAnPOf7sxqOnwGzg2fbH5LvfDnAZ1WXXqUgYiPU+2eEzDJDT2keeDi > jTJJ2LloO8qUE//BLYp/FjJDzyGWohLM7wbobPul76lydRAO4uEL/uRwEJT7avxH > d7LuGm6QDfsmcSW/9Es4e60lBuLehYQ8w4K1JAbhiDrhmn0qLR8ITw3iwuOCl5pe > 3M0gOJwPqqGdYmhG3eOyBbwDzsl2nNXhXWwKV+QmhoPFQqxtIR6NqAyDs+9phmLA > RkjU2J9qoInFoijgnI+TST7KQcS64a5IZFLfjde+JIZvXQ2KENxXm4Sfqtwu2meP > J7ezu4E4QixGDHT31hSeQef7haO4jjt4jw87qPtZEE697QRYqTnHwKN4+BtYDWjH > RM5xQzvLhe/ZwjrukD9w6hSKvdSZ40fdHzNJ8clgm7TI5ZWUI9T4gMQnmYmBP9/7 > Kuw8IT7TQw0D+f0ED6XFCQznJ3Zqbb6zlVaZlMLq2TjCtppoTX7wjnJMtQiys3ZC > BV9JaahIxvGzJmKqaO081MPR2tL1U2T/Ilif23itpmXo3WTqXanQU3K0/8HoKR9E > hwpgDjhkMMTnNGkNqAGn > =ZRW9 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one > of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes > as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the > bonus > that the User
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. Method 1 I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t). I typed in the following commands, hitting after each line. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 sudo apt-get update After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user password. The first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second line automatically updates your system to use it. Method 2 You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open Synaptic and click on Settings and then Repositories. In the Repositories dialog, click on Other Software, then click Add. Then type in ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 and click Add Source. You will be prompted to reload your software sources. Once you do that, you can click Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO packages that are to be updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded. Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any means an experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my software installation needs. I've never downloaded and installed a *.deb file. Instructions for these methods are found at: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1. I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will. Virgil On 10/31/2016 06:53 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will work well. Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But with OpenSUSE it works well. Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6a7AAoJELDKYwaoS9AI8moP/A2yuXifFabBdnXBSwAEABtJ jhQfL8toi78UWYHKOTiAZ+eb4gRWjnq50SPjanxoako43ogYG8nNHqsIhEavsUta TBbYXRRvoJBAnPOf7sxqOnwGzg2fbH5LvfDnAZ1WXXqUgYiPU+2eEzDJDT2keeDi jTJJ2LloO8qUE//BLYp/FjJDzyGWohLM7wbobPul76lydRAO4uEL/uRwEJT7avxH d7LuGm6QDfsmcSW/9Es4e60lBuLehYQ8w4K1JAbhiDrhmn0qLR8ITw3iwuOCl5pe 3M0gOJwPqqGdYmhG3eOyBbwDzsl2nNXhXWwKV+QmhoPFQqxtIR6NqAyDs+9phmLA RkjU2J9qoInFoijgnI+TST7KQcS64a5IZFLfjde+JIZvXQ2KENxXm4Sfqtwu2meP J7ezu4E4QixGDHT31hSeQef7haO4jjt4jw87qPtZEE697QRYqTnHwKN4+BtYDWjH RM5xQzvLhe/ZwjrukD9w6hSKvdSZ40fdHzNJ8clgm7TI5ZWUI9T4gMQnmYmBP9/7 Kuw8IT7TQw0D+f0ED6XFCQznJ3Zqbb6zlVaZlMLq2TjCtppoTX7wjnJMtQiys3ZC BV9JaahIxvGzJmKqaO081MPR2tL1U2T/Ilif23itpmXo3WTqXanQU3K0/8HoKR9E hwpgDjhkMMTnNGkNqAGn =ZRW9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand. Gordon. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will work well. Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But with OpenSUSE it works well. Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6a7AAoJELDKYwaoS9AI8moP/A2yuXifFabBdnXBSwAEABtJ jhQfL8toi78UWYHKOTiAZ+eb4gRWjnq50SPjanxoako43ogYG8nNHqsIhEavsUta TBbYXRRvoJBAnPOf7sxqOnwGzg2fbH5LvfDnAZ1WXXqUgYiPU+2eEzDJDT2keeDi jTJJ2LloO8qUE//BLYp/FjJDzyGWohLM7wbobPul76lydRAO4uEL/uRwEJT7avxH d7LuGm6QDfsmcSW/9Es4e60lBuLehYQ8w4K1JAbhiDrhmn0qLR8ITw3iwuOCl5pe 3M0gOJwPqqGdYmhG3eOyBbwDzsl2nNXhXWwKV+QmhoPFQqxtIR6NqAyDs+9phmLA RkjU2J9qoInFoijgnI+TST7KQcS64a5IZFLfjde+JIZvXQ2KENxXm4Sfqtwu2meP J7ezu4E4QixGDHT31hSeQef7haO4jjt4jw87qPtZEE697QRYqTnHwKN4+BtYDWjH RM5xQzvLhe/ZwjrukD9w6hSKvdSZ40fdHzNJ8clgm7TI5ZWUI9T4gMQnmYmBP9/7 Kuw8IT7TQw0D+f0ED6XFCQznJ3Zqbb6zlVaZlMLq2TjCtppoTX7wjnJMtQiys3ZC BV9JaahIxvGzJmKqaO081MPR2tL1U2T/Ilif23itpmXo3WTqXanQU3K0/8HoKR9E hwpgDjhkMMTnNGkNqAGn =ZRW9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand. Gordon. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, > > What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place > them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I > have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". > > This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager > package [on Mint] called "Caja". > > > Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE > desktop GUI] > > This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look > different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. > This is the default user folder for my laptop. > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ > > I type in "cd lib" > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib > > I get this folder shown > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ > > At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files > from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb > files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will > start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the > folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the > commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate > desktop] > > So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with > the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very > easy route. > > cd lib > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will work well. Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But with OpenSUSE it works well. Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6a7AAoJELDKYwaoS9AI8moP/A2yuXifFabBdnXBSwAEABtJ jhQfL8toi78UWYHKOTiAZ+eb4gRWjnq50SPjanxoako43ogYG8nNHqsIhEavsUta TBbYXRRvoJBAnPOf7sxqOnwGzg2fbH5LvfDnAZ1WXXqUgYiPU+2eEzDJDT2keeDi jTJJ2LloO8qUE//BLYp/FjJDzyGWohLM7wbobPul76lydRAO4uEL/uRwEJT7avxH d7LuGm6QDfsmcSW/9Es4e60lBuLehYQ8w4K1JAbhiDrhmn0qLR8ITw3iwuOCl5pe 3M0gOJwPqqGdYmhG3eOyBbwDzsl2nNXhXWwKV+QmhoPFQqxtIR6NqAyDs+9phmLA RkjU2J9qoInFoijgnI+TST7KQcS64a5IZFLfjde+JIZvXQ2KENxXm4Sfqtwu2meP J7ezu4E4QixGDHT31hSeQef7haO4jjt4jw87qPtZEE697QRYqTnHwKN4+BtYDWjH RM5xQzvLhe/ZwjrukD9w6hSKvdSZ40fdHzNJ8clgm7TI5ZWUI9T4gMQnmYmBP9/7 Kuw8IT7TQw0D+f0ED6XFCQznJ3Zqbb6zlVaZlMLq2TjCtppoTX7wjnJMtQiys3ZC BV9JaahIxvGzJmKqaO081MPR2tL1U2T/Ilif23itpmXo3WTqXanQU3K0/8HoKR9E hwpgDjhkMMTnNGkNqAGn =ZRW9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ken, > > I will have a look, if I find something special for your > situation. Couldn't find a clear description for this problem when looking for Mint. But when I am looking for installing LO with Linux I found this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF6S6AAoJELDKYwaoS9AIkQMP/i+eAaC3OhjeBekSjtTlvmiq dEIsAjReziWLbHf2oEt9MO9jyTbhBQYj0J6CwFpjsCmjTOwlx+xh6uio3L7KPRBh l3NGn+tQMi8DEg1D2/NPtxUQY+u2JgoYycEx6/iEOcASNdtS5iaYD6N1ypqRsEQ5 5MF1XNJtvX3mFFqRLJ/IfUMpcwQ1jw85uP1ii3sCLTnq1B9CG9jPZCWrO954qIHq Sy2VgjEBruXU1C1YIdphnoWGmEEkSJiHQkaDK+S6xBQmTRKqtMqodxUl6xgDKYyW KvjjYV9WIff6+6Yha0da5jQzKsh1k8RmWHWG98OEGQLa9JcAcwnVAxlQk67RCFFc lpbeazj+akrkbzsCV05xI2imZRD/+LORz7w9sU5J8EtAREh1jDpiHAMJd06BdeMe 37GoddldnAXSGImjVlYYFoO11/1MXilDmKHXJWbZiyP834gpeFlUEto5Z50WX9Wx uXk79BCAlbuDZjhPlNuDYcQUlNkdaFjBvRGcJt8ZZl6SsuWyAwDQRkWWNdabbI7a r3xnzhfFRJXuRJ7m7DDb+Kwo3WHBUG8kRtG4l2RKOoPBTafxWAiKPcHM/dS1X5aU lBIKNkfVaV89jp6fx1eGfsrP/jKbfBMBidvqJqVYPQqBSLKsFYHy0WNuYPvHat83 1HAtW/Qf6ROBUMBpG9PM =DX3p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/2016 01:08 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Robert, On 10/30/16 12:33 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- For every installation on linux you could - - install as root/SuperUser - - install as user in your own directory Install as root/SuperUser: 1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language) 2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources) 3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could install all packages from there. I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge reared it's ugly head. ROFL In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager. But in none of those do I recognize anything that lets me point to folder I created. I.E. a point and click method. Is one of these the "install-program" you are referring to? Would the folder I created now be called a repository? If so, do I input the complete path? Which means I need to learn how Linux structures pathnames. Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles already assume some basic level of knowledge. Knowledge that does not always exist. :-( I do not get what is being said in 4 and 5 as well. What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them all in a temporary folder I call "lib". Nice and simple, I have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy". This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager package [on Mint] called "Caja". Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE desktop GUI] This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the default user folder for my laptop. timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ I type in "cd lib" timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib I get this folder shown timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$ At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2. sudo dpkg -i *.deb This will prompt me to five my superuser password. Then it will start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop] So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route. cd lib sudo dpkg -i *.deb -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ken, >> 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local >> source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory >> with your installer and could install all packages from there. > > I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge > reared it's ugly head. ROFL > > In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software > Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager. I have never seen Mint. I'm using OpenSUSE since many years. But when I see the title I would try it with Software Sources. There must be a possibility to add sources in the web, like Packman, or also local Folders without any special description. After you have added the directory as a source you could close Software Sources and could open Software Manager (don't know the difference between "Software Manager" and "Synaptic Package Manager"). There you should be able to install the packages of the folder. > > Would the folder I created now be called a repository? If so, do I > input the complete path? Which means I need to learn how Linux > structures pathnames. Yes, it would be like a repository. But you haven't to know anything about pathnames. There must be a button to choose the path out of a list. The only difference to normal repositories: There is no description inside the repository. It's only a repository with deb-packages. > > Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of > information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" > articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles > already assume some basic level of knowledge. Knowledge that does > not always exist. :-( > I will have a look, if I find something special for your situation. Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYF5ybAAoJELDKYwaoS9AIuhUP/AssQIyG2j0B2G3UhIiKG+Zj O96JqiDgqZSjPw1FGHpxvJ8eOPhiXEt9IiL7ZuaRYM5DU2IKvYnneoVi3SZ4E58v zqsVMBXkGeuCM2m86x6LruJi6uR6AuWyYZPdt/SCmKpzJgMjxxcFwPgMyKdp89iR hao2sgVFBeubw1NZAOC6xP/4+HLbxTZaWJmEnR13O5HVxUZ6SSJWrcBb7nB3hjEF k4WuNtKRf3H11BpnjAfEIzwoyJFzRx/34xbHjdcqxAO3Zl/wwAb5TLnnpzX4C3OB 61CiEuIlcPWcce1V09ULlBAQG5ku0C3+xuGkTGJipYmKBfmYLvXffib6g6RIo2XP EpVukNMB6v9tSDHrecD7HMRRL4jXRVkpH82hOsKeQo19vOPmRJD8v+CfGUA0RJgo v5m/sgkH4C+b9rjxOxZzcbgOf8vskbT9tirNBZzcp/HgaH86iy+/PiRLc/dqgUgd B/OQXf5CeTmicN/GDdAF8UEe9uae0FsSTqIsy29gG5p+nTz2bI7igoBxA4npeaGE +DbB5uBMRPnY52mM2iX7yv9Z93a/TjUHVX752+yu3yGiC5q01RIJzRiKNxHOQecC RIj5gHM8FCim/bHemZA3uwz/STpkORqLffGqv7a96GRp2KvGj6c1Y0Tj/lgRKmpN AbYCcLex2QPbEmSgPAGe =dqds -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/31/16 11:45 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer : Hi, Henri, On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote: Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if that's what you're after - are found here : https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well for me For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it better. But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop I have here in the future. For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO Calc on my Samsung laser. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" Hullo Ken ! There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, And if Microsoft would only listen... LOL and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find Mint 18 just a little bit better. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint Forum for printers and scanners ( https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?... I registered there soon after starting with Mint. I don't post much because I don't get to "play" with Linux much. In this case, things seem to be pointing to LO, and I want to eliminate that possibility before looking at another possible cause. With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you might want to consider installing the PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb files yourself !... Hopefully, after some help from Robert Großkopf I'll be able to do that. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/30/16 2:16 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/30/2016 10:56 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. It does not. :-( However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed. What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa. So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current version after I have it downloaded. Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. Yes, you must select landscape in LO (Format -> Page) to format the document/page and you must select landscape in the print dialog to select the printer paper size/orientation. If you don't then you get the symptoms you described in your OP. This is not a bug. It makes good sense. Agreed. Only problem is, it doesn't work for me at the moment with the default LO in Mint 17.3 :-( The grayed out paper size/orientation in the print dialog I responded to, is a separate issue brought up by Gordon and seemed to have started with LO 5.x. Don't know about 4.x. LO 3.x did not exhibit this "feature" AFAIK. OpenOffice 4.x does not exhibit this either, but then it is a different beast now. Girvin -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/30/16 11:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 10/29/2016 09:22 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/29/16 6:40 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 30/10/16 13:22, Ken Springer wrote: Trying to learn a bit about Linux, as well as solve a printing issue with LO in Linux Mint 17.3. The printer is a Samsung CLP-315 color laser. When printing a spreadsheet, and selecting landscape, LO prints landscape, but to paper that is still portrait. Sort of like this... | | | | .. .. .. |___| The dots represent the data that is trying to be printed. If I set the paper to portrait, this is the result. All the data is printed. | | | | ... ... ... |___| My suspicion is the printer driver, but I would like to install the current Linux stable version. Mint installs 5.0.3.2, which is the current version in the repository, from what I can see. I know it's somewhat apples to oranges, but the same spreadsheet works fine on my Mac with the current version of LO. Once I've downloaded the current version, where to I go from there? Hi Ken, Hi, Gordon, There any many versions of Linux, just look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions to see. Oh, yea, I know. I go peek at distrtowatch.com now and again. And I've played with a number of LiveCD's to get a quick look at the ones that looked interesting to me. If you are wishing to stay with Mint, then take a look at their home page. There plenty are of good options and you will find that people have their preferences and tend to stay with them. I joined their forums 4-5 months ago. And I got some suggestions about using PPA's other than Linux Mint. Just haven't had the time to get to that. But that doesn't mean the latest stable version is in any of those PPA's. FYI, this printing problem has cropped up a couple weeks ago. I asked in the forums a couple months ago. Right now I'm using Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, looking for some alternative to Windows and Macs that look simpler to tackle for seniors and other "computer illiterate" folks. Something they may find easier to learn. Secondarily, some of these individuals may have unsupported versions of operating systems, but can't afford to buy a new system. Or, they may not have one and can't afford one, but older hardware can be salvaged and the system given to them. On old XP systems, I tend to replace Windows with Ubuntu with Mint as the desktop. It was the closest to what I saw with Ubuntu's desktop for 9.x.x thru 10.10.x It works well for XP users, in my test with friends. Is it Ubuntu that works well for your friends, or the Mint desktop? My reason for using Mint is the Cinnamon environment seemed to provide the simplest user interface for new to Linux or new to computers users to understand. I use MX-Linux, which is based on Debian, like MInt, and is a mid sized but very stable operating system. MX has LO built in. I use to use Linux Mint, but had too many issues with networked Canon inkjet printers. So I installed Ubuntu again, since I could find the Mint desktop for it. Now Ubuntu has a distro with Mint as a default instead of adding it after Unity desktop opens up. Also, when I was using Linux Mint, I could not easily upgrade to the newest version. Ubuntu tries to keep its repository up-to-date with the latest stable version of LO. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with Mint. I am using LO 5.2.1.2 on this laptop, but plan on upgrading it soon. Since I have been using Ubuntu since the 9.x.x days on my main desktop. I have tried a few others on other laptops/desktops. I chose Ubuntu since it was the only Live CD that worked on my old HP desktop's sound card right from that CD. Right now this laptop, and my spare, run both Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10, Mint also has LO built in. Where you setting your portrait/landscape option, in LO? Been switching between them in Calc, in this case. When I stumbled on this problem today, I also tried Writer, same problem. But, in the printer's properties, I can't switch from landscape to portrait. The option is greyed out. I've even tried reversing the page dimensions, to no avail. Are you sure it is a MX670? If so, what country did you get it from. I do not see it listed in the Canon support for the USA. My bad, Tim, I typed the model from memory. Sorry. It's an MX 870 from the US. Calc printed fine to a Canon MX-670 (I think that's the right printer) when the printer was first installed. Then it broke for some unknown reason. It would print about 1.25" of data, and then be paused. Resume the printing, and another 1.25" would print. Removing the printer and reinstalling (although I might not have done it correctly) failed to fix th
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer : > Hi, Henri, > > On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote: > > > > Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if >> that's what you're after - are found here : >> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well >> for me >> > > For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it > better. But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop > I have here in the future. > > For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO > Calc on my Samsung laser. > > -- > Ken > Mac OS X 10.11.6 > Firefox 49.0.1 > Thunderbird 45.3.0 > "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash > and it's gone!" > Hullo Ken ! There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find Mint 18 just a little bit better. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint Forum for printers and scanners ( https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?... With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you might want to consider installing the PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb files yourself !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi, Henri, On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote: Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if that's what you're after - are found here : https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well for me For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it better. But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop I have here in the future. For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO Calc on my Samsung laser. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi, Robert, On 10/30/16 12:33 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- For every installation on linux you could - - install as root/SuperUser - - install as user in your own directory Install as root/SuperUser: 1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language) 2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources) 3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could install all packages from there. I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge reared it's ugly head. ROFL In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager. But in none of those do I recognize anything that lets me point to folder I created. I.E. a point and click method. Is one of these the "install-program" you are referring to? Would the folder I created now be called a repository? If so, do I input the complete path? Which means I need to learn how Linux structures pathnames. Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles already assume some basic level of knowledge. Knowledge that does not always exist. :-( -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/29/2016 09:22 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/29/16 6:40 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 30/10/16 13:22, Ken Springer wrote: Trying to learn a bit about Linux, as well as solve a printing issue with LO in Linux Mint 17.3. The printer is a Samsung CLP-315 color laser. When printing a spreadsheet, and selecting landscape, LO prints landscape, but to paper that is still portrait. Sort of like this... | | | | .. .. .. |___| The dots represent the data that is trying to be printed. If I set the paper to portrait, this is the result. All the data is printed. | | | | ... ... ... |___| My suspicion is the printer driver, but I would like to install the current Linux stable version. Mint installs 5.0.3.2, which is the current version in the repository, from what I can see. I know it's somewhat apples to oranges, but the same spreadsheet works fine on my Mac with the current version of LO. Once I've downloaded the current version, where to I go from there? Hi Ken, Hi, Gordon, There any many versions of Linux, just look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions to see. Oh, yea, I know. I go peek at distrtowatch.com now and again. And I've played with a number of LiveCD's to get a quick look at the ones that looked interesting to me. If you are wishing to stay with Mint, then take a look at their home page. There plenty are of good options and you will find that people have their preferences and tend to stay with them. I joined their forums 4-5 months ago. And I got some suggestions about using PPA's other than Linux Mint. Just haven't had the time to get to that. But that doesn't mean the latest stable version is in any of those PPA's. FYI, this printing problem has cropped up a couple weeks ago. I asked in the forums a couple months ago. Right now I'm using Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, looking for some alternative to Windows and Macs that look simpler to tackle for seniors and other "computer illiterate" folks. Something they may find easier to learn. Secondarily, some of these individuals may have unsupported versions of operating systems, but can't afford to buy a new system. Or, they may not have one and can't afford one, but older hardware can be salvaged and the system given to them. On old XP systems, I tend to replace Windows with Ubuntu with Mint as the desktop. It was the closest to what I saw with Ubuntu's desktop for 9.x.x thru 10.10.x It works well for XP users, in my test with friends. I use MX-Linux, which is based on Debian, like MInt, and is a mid sized but very stable operating system. MX has LO built in. I use to use Linux Mint, but had too many issues with networked Canon inkjet printers. So I installed Ubuntu again, since I could find the Mint desktop for it. Now Ubuntu has a distro with Mint as a default instead of adding it after Unity desktop opens up. Also, when I was using Linux Mint, I could not easily upgrade to the newest version. Ubuntu tries to keep its repository up-to-date with the latest stable version of LO. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with Mint. I am using LO 5.2.1.2 on this laptop, but plan on upgrading it soon. Since I have been using Ubuntu since the 9.x.x days on my main desktop. I have tried a few others on other laptops/desktops. I chose Ubuntu since it was the only Live CD that worked on my old HP desktop's sound card right from that CD. Right now this laptop, and my spare, run both Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10, Mint also has LO built in. Where you setting your portrait/landscape option, in LO? Been switching between them in Calc, in this case. When I stumbled on this problem today, I also tried Writer, same problem. But, in the printer's properties, I can't switch from landscape to portrait. The option is greyed out. I've even tried reversing the page dimensions, to no avail. Are you sure it is a MX670? If so, what country did you get it from. I do not see it listed in the Canon support for the USA. Calc printed fine to a Canon MX-670 (I think that's the right printer) when the printer was first installed. Then it broke for some unknown reason. It would print about 1.25" of data, and then be paused. Resume the printing, and another 1.25" would print. Removing the printer and reinstalling (although I might not have done it correctly) failed to fix the issue. I have bought so far 6220, 922, 5420, and a new one coming - 5320 - to help deal with the issues that my 6220 is having. It was my default photo printer. I had to find a two-way-paper-feeding printer, since that is what I needed from the 6220. I have also a HP laser and a HP 13x19 inch paper printer. The Canon 92
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/30/2016 10:56 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. It does not. :-( However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed. What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa. So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current version after I have it downloaded. Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. Yes, you must select landscape in LO (Format -> Page) to format the document/page and you must select landscape in the print dialog to select the printer paper size/orientation. If you don't then you get the symptoms you described in your OP. This is not a bug. It makes good sense. The grayed out paper size/orientation in the print dialog I responded to, is a separate issue brought up by Gordon and seemed to have started with LO 5.x. Don't know about 4.x. LO 3.x did not exhibit this "feature" AFAIK. OpenOffice 4.x does not exhibit this either, but then it is a different beast now. Girvin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
2016-10-30 18:56 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer : > On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: > >> On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: >> >>> Hi again Ken, >>>There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO >>> very >>> often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a >>> PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that >>> when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an >>> elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, >>> just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 >>> Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto >>> portrait and not giving me the option to change. >>> >>> I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, >>> will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum >>> with an answer. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab >> and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." >> >> That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print >> dialog. >> > > It does not. :-( > > However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set > landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the > landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed. > > What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that > comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa. > > So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current > version after I have it downloaded. > > Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. > > > -- > Ken > Mac OS X 10.11.6 > Firefox 49.0.1 > Thunderbird 45.3.0 > "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash > and it's gone!" Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if that's what you're after - are found here : https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well for me Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ken, > > So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the > current version after I have it downloaded. > > Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. You could download the packages for your system here: http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ All versions are available here - also release-candidates of new version s. For every installation on linux you could - - install as root/SuperUser - - install as user in your own directory Install as root/SuperUser: 1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language) 2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources) 3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could install all packages from there. For updates: You must only do step 1. and 3. again. Install as user in your own directory 1. The same as above 2. The same as above, name of directory would be better LibreOffice 3. The same as above 4. Add a directory th the directory of 2.: "install" 5. Open the shell in the directory "install" 6. Start the following code: a) for *.deb for i in ../*.deb; do dpkg-deb -x $i . ; done b) for *.rpm for i in ../*.rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -id; done You could start LO from the folder ../install/opt/libreoffice5.2/program with the shellscript 'soffice'. I have installed 20 versions of LO here beneath each other in this way. So I could test with different versions, when I am looking for first appearence of bugs. Regards Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYFjzoAAoJELDKYwaoS9AIvu4QAIQvvJx3yL3r7Z1ldZZyWjFa suQeGZ0e15punO/Eiz1Wb2dGMxuk2+AEHlN/M/xqHWZXf9Qqx/V0lLaevsUwM8r6 S6G9TNk+7ylCKRp/gkUQ+ZI5wI1u+9uYZbdle9YhC8ZHPA5bHU5o33HVZC+Ma13V nPNrPPLB9Spbwdx7h8BndKdACkj6Uwbt5tUbcJ3ACxcADj1zbaujBSdspI7CMQFY N2I/qy889tzmjl4/uGMlJyU5vg1ni5JDA9MEmVWgAGvMvA00MPZgdFZ0YZSa9dKA Olr8u7No2Ukl3/PzadaDg/BfSyC73SM877ihTkFTKFv4lOUVFK1uXOyzcdQUObZq jCVXa9myVIS0/dBr/JIrmPFfodjMkOUzAYrWJohCMkiq3RqRSdTDxKm2tny/daF6 0KhUas7FlpDtNeQnjJpCVCZGt9vCfvtv7hFOnu64ms9nkSWgnh1vYJ4tfou2bLrk W6oLliAP5u5/zouAqiUsnpRq+V6336S/Wz/m4FwkYscTUsAjMrFeQwMeW4KKCLyV 3/xAdR32Hi8rW87ZpWaPRzlE2TABEG29jR7G418N38p/Kv7oPRISS+2jdpW+ZDo1 bVDwAjHlJcbKTyaI8Gg2izXPhLe6LxRCS7RrVIU/IAOCMXxzwMZSklfQO3/8mKNP BZZCP4CaTl7VvLxcZLZx =O5cD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. It does not. :-( However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed. What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa. So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current version after I have it downloaded. Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 2016-10-30 15:20, gordon cooper wrote: On 30/10/16 15:04, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. HTH. Girvin Also, Click the Format Tab (at top of LO Page) about halfway down the popup is Page, Select that and you have a whole range of options, including Landscape. Gordon. Now, if all that fails. I have had the same symptom under Opensuse. If I select output as postscript instead of PDF it prints ok. steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 30/10/16 15:04, Girvin Herr wrote: On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. HTH. Girvin Also, Click the Format Tab (at top of LO Page) about halfway down the popup is Page, Select that and you have a whole range of options, including Landscape. Gordon. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print dialog. HTH. Girvin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
Hi again Ken, There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO very often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto portrait and not giving me the option to change. I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum with an answer. Gordon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
On 10/29/16 6:40 PM, gordon cooper wrote: On 30/10/16 13:22, Ken Springer wrote: Trying to learn a bit about Linux, as well as solve a printing issue with LO in Linux Mint 17.3. The printer is a Samsung CLP-315 color laser. When printing a spreadsheet, and selecting landscape, LO prints landscape, but to paper that is still portrait. Sort of like this... | | | | .. .. .. |___| The dots represent the data that is trying to be printed. If I set the paper to portrait, this is the result. All the data is printed. | | | | ... ... ... |___| My suspicion is the printer driver, but I would like to install the current Linux stable version. Mint installs 5.0.3.2, which is the current version in the repository, from what I can see. I know it's somewhat apples to oranges, but the same spreadsheet works fine on my Mac with the current version of LO. Once I've downloaded the current version, where to I go from there? Hi Ken, Hi, Gordon, There any many versions of Linux, just look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions to see. Oh, yea, I know. I go peek at distrtowatch.com now and again. And I've played with a number of LiveCD's to get a quick look at the ones that looked interesting to me. If you are wishing to stay with Mint, then take a look at their home page. There plenty are of good options and you will find that people have their preferences and tend to stay with them. I joined their forums 4-5 months ago. And I got some suggestions about using PPA's other than Linux Mint. Just haven't had the time to get to that. But that doesn't mean the latest stable version is in any of those PPA's. FYI, this printing problem has cropped up a couple weeks ago. I asked in the forums a couple months ago. Right now I'm using Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, looking for some alternative to Windows and Macs that look simpler to tackle for seniors and other "computer illiterate" folks. Something they may find easier to learn. Secondarily, some of these individuals may have unsupported versions of operating systems, but can't afford to buy a new system. Or, they may not have one and can't afford one, but older hardware can be salvaged and the system given to them. I use MX-Linux, which is based on Debian, like MInt, and is a mid sized but very stable operating system. MX has LO built in. Mint also has LO built in. Where you setting your portrait/landscape option, in LO? Been switching between them in Calc, in this case. When I stumbled on this problem today, I also tried Writer, same problem. But, in the printer's properties, I can't switch from landscape to portrait. The option is greyed out. I've even tried reversing the page dimensions, to no avail. Calc printed fine to a Canon MX-670 (I think that's the right printer) when the printer was first installed. Then it broke for some unknown reason. It would print about 1.25" of data, and then be paused. Resume the printing, and another 1.25" would print. Removing the printer and reinstalling (although I might not have done it correctly) failed to fix the issue. I swapped the computer out (laptops both, same Linux version), and the other system also printed fine. My conclusion was something went bonkers in the first computer. I don't have the time currently to learn enough about Linux Mint to find the true cause, but installing is so easy, I'm just reinstalling Mint and I'm sure it will work fine once again. OH! And the RAM passed Memtest86, so that isn't the problem. And the user of the computer isn't the most literate either. :-( I've had to fix issues with the spreadsheet that were all data entry errors. So finding out why it doesn't print to my laser is more curiosity/learning than anything else. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted