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[vox-tech] port forwarding

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Harke

I have been looking through the logs and set-up of my router.
I found that a port is being forwarded to one of my wife's laptops.
Since port triggering is disabled, how is this possible? Is there a normal
function for this or does this mean the router has been comprised?
The port is 59215, UDP. I searched but haven't found any clue as to
its use. The laptop in question is a Dell and fortunately does not
have any important data. (games mostly)

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Fwd: help on Linux Mint 17.3 cinnamon?

2016-02-05 Thread Richard Harke

Don't see Daves email but if he wants to meet me at Citrus Heights
Starbucks some
time next week I would see what I can do. No promises as I haven't worked
with Mint before
though I use Debian so most of it should be familiar
Richard


On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Bill Kendrick  wrote:

>
> Dave here emailed me directly at the root@ address, and I offered
> to pass his question along to vox-tech list, to see if someone
> here might be willing to lend a hand:
>
> 
>
> Dave here in Citrus Heights. Hoping for help on using 64gb usb drive
> for Linux tasks; and original hard drive C Windows 8 for other
> tasks. (I visit Davis every 60 days or so, in case help is available.)
>
> I'm a new user of Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon; it runs fine on HP laptop
> on 16gb bootable usb drive with 4 gb persistence file (in bios, boot
> order is usb diskette first; secure boot is disabled).
>
> I have failed in the following tasks:
>
> * on a Mint bootable 64 gb usb drive with 4 gb persistence file:
> failed in attempts with gparted app. to revise persistence upward to
> tap unallocated space of around 58 gb.
>
> * today, using 16gb bootable Mint usb drive, tried "full install" onto
> 64 gb usb drive (no persistence file). It said installation completed;
> I powered off, and tried re-boot, but 64 gb usb will not boot Mint (it
> seems to look for usb drive, but boots to Windows 8).
>
> 
>
> * also, if time allows, would like to work on Mint 16gb bootable usb
> drive to revise persistence upward to tap unallocated space.
>
> *
>
> 
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> --
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I wasn't able to get the import function in
thunderbird to
work. What I finally did is: open thunderbird and create the folders
(empty, of course)
Then I exited thunderbird and, one folder at a time, I deleted the folder
(directory) and then
re-created it using a python program that converted a maildir to mbox. Next
time I opened
thunderbird my emails were there.

Richard

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote:

Quoting Susan Baur (su...@cdl.edu):

Hi Richard,

Did you see this stackoverflow article?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4780441/how-to-import-mails-into-thunderbird-from-maildir-format

Despite the URL and title, the question posed (and I'll get to the two
answers in a moment) involve figuring out how to get mails down from a
local IMAP server (something like Dovecot). The local IMAPd is said to
have _its_ message store in Maildir.

Answer #1 was: Use a local mail reader to bulk-pull all mail from
the local IMAPd and save the mail from the local mail reader, e.g., to
mbox format. Then use that mbox with Thunderbird. (The helper was a
bit vague about how to do the latter part.)

Or, helper #1 adds, move the entire Maildir tree to the machine where
Thunderbird will be running, install Dovecot as a local IMAPd on said
machine with the Maildir tree as _its_ message store, and configure
Thunderbird to take its mail from the local IMAPd.

Answer 1a was a bit baroque, but suited the situation where the user had
a local IMAPd. But Richard doesn't have one of those.

Answer 1b is even a bit more baroque, but in present context not only
assumes Richard has a local IMAPd but also will want to keep using one.

Answer #2 was: Install the Import Export Tool extension for Thunderbird
(that I've mentioned before). Rename all individual mails in the
Maildir trees to have .eml filename extensions (using utility mmv) and
then use the Import Export Tool extension's feature to 'Import all EML
files from a directory'. This would work, if Richard has the mmv
utility.

I admire answer #2; it's ingenious. Lots of ways to solve the problem,
and this one exhibited lateral thinking. My own inclination would be to
attack the problem directly and convert the Maildir tree to mbox using a
utiltiy for that purpose.

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Re: [vox-tech] Email

2015-07-12 Thread Richard Harke

Rod's link included the suggestion to make the conversion on the old
machine which
I'm going to try as kmail is still working there.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote:

 Quoting Richard Harke (paleopeng...@gmail.com):

  I did install Thunderbird (icedove) but I'm stuck ay impoting my
  existing emails. I created a folder to match one from kmailm planning
  to import one folder at a time.

 I believe you mistyped 'Ah, thank you for calling attention to my
 omitting any coherent details of what format my old email is currently
 in.  It's trapped inside whatever datastore KMail [you supply version]
 uses.'

 (Hint, hint.)


 One issue is that KMail used a number of storage formats over time,
 sometimes offering a couple as options.  Here is an article that
 describes a user of KMail 2.x (from KDE 4.7.2) getting out of KMail to
 Thunderbird with his mail intact:

 http://www.ulduzsoft.com/2012/01/from-kmail-to-thunderbird/

 (Author 'George' doesn't like the default mbox format used by
 Thunderbird, so configures Thunderbird to use Maildir instead.)

 One obvious workaround irrespective of KMail's storage format -- usable
 _if_ KMail is working well enough to sync to remote mail servers --
 would be to sync KMail's local folders to a remote IMAP server, and then
 IMAP-sync that same mail downwards (the other direction) into
 Thunderbird.

 For extra credit and vastly greater speed, do this via an IMAP daemon
 (such as Dovecot) and MTA (such as Exim/Postfix) that you run locally on
 you Linux host.  But that might be more setup than you care to take on.

 Tip:  On general grounds, you'll want this extension for Thunderbird:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/
 It makes bulk-importing of mbox-formatted mail files more human-friendly
 than without the extension.  The extension does not, however, natively
 understand any other file formats (e.g., Maildir).

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Re: [vox-tech] Email

2015-07-12 Thread Richard Harke

I did install Thunderbird (icedove) but I'm stuck ay impoting my existing
emails. I created a folder to match one from kmailm planning to import one
folder
at a time. Select the folder and go to tools - import Then I choose just
mail
to import, click next. It says select file type but no choices are shown and
it doesn't accept keyboard input. I wouldn't know what type to enter if I
could..

Richard


On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote:

 Quoting Rod Roark (r...@sunsetsystems.com):

  I liked the efficiency and small footprint of Claws, but keep coming
  back to Thunderbird (Icedove in Debian) as having the features I need to
  work with my clients and the least amount of bugs that get in my way.

 I made Thunderbird (Icedove) work well in a corporate (MS-Exchange!)
 environment recently.  Slow compared to mutt, but nonetheless a winner
 IMO.  (I used DavMail as a gateway.)


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[vox-tech] Email

2015-07-11 Thread Richard Harke

Does any one do email anymore (as opposed to webmail) ?
I have used kmail for years but now it is badly broken. Many sites
discuss problems, none have solutions. I decided to try thunderbird
(icedove on debian) but can't seem to make a folder to import
my old email. (right click on account name, nothing happens)
Should I try evolution or am I just doing something stupid??

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] wpa_supplicant on debian jessie

2015-07-08 Thread Richard Harke

Solved:
Debian installs network-manager by default and I installed wicd. The two
interfere
with each other. But its a mystery why it worked until the last upgrade as
before that
both programs were installed and worked OK.

Richard


On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Nick Schmalenberger n...@schmalenberger.us
 wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 06:53:20PM -0700, Richard Harke wrote:
  This is happening on two different laptops. One is using a usb wifi fob
  with realtek chip set. My new laptop
  uses intel wifi. I use wicd to select and bring up a connection. The
 first
  try always takes a very long time
  and fails with bad password. If I then immediately click connect again,
 it
  connects in 1 or 2 seconds and remains
  connected for a variable length of time. At starbucks (open AP) it
 connects
  right away but disconnects
  4 to 6 seconds later. I haven't tried all permutations of machine and AP
  but a recent debian seems to be the
  main common point. Problem started on the old machine after upgrading to
  sid. And now the new machine is
  installed with jessie. (which was sid when the old machine was upgraded)
  Its on my new machine I noticed the log files
  growing and saw entries for wpa_supplicant every few seconds (syslog and
  daemon.log)
  Richard
 
 Despite all the seeming bloatedness of NetworkManager, I've had
 quite good luck with it on my current Debian laptop. It
 especially helped once I found nmtui, because I don't have any
 window manager that works decently with the NetworkManager gui
 and I think that was my main source of frustration with it
 before.

 The only other possible problem I can see with it, is if I want
 to manually change my ip on a interface I just added with vlan
 tagging or something, NetworkManager may interfere, but I usually
 only have to do that at work, where I have a Mac whose GUI
 works decently enough even for vlan tagging.
 -Nick
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Re: [vox-tech] wpa_supplicant on debian jessie

2015-07-04 Thread Richard Harke

This is happening on two different laptops. One is using a usb wifi fob
with realtek chip set. My new laptop
uses intel wifi. I use wicd to select and bring up a connection. The first
try always takes a very long time
and fails with bad password. If I then immediately click connect again, it
connects in 1 or 2 seconds and remains
connected for a variable length of time. At starbucks (open AP) it connects
right away but disconnects
4 to 6 seconds later. I haven't tried all permutations of machine and AP
but a recent debian seems to be the
main common point. Problem started on the old machine after upgrading to
sid. And now the new machine is
installed with jessie. (which was sid when the old machine was upgraded)
Its on my new machine I noticed the log files
growing and saw entries for wpa_supplicant every few seconds (syslog and
daemon.log)
Richard


On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Rōnin Dusette djyosha...@gmail.com wrote:

 That sounds like a driver problem. What Wi-Fi card and which drivers have
 you tried? If it's Broadcom, have you tried b4x-cutter (I think it's called
 that. Been a while since I had to use it.)? Or possibly ndiswrapper?
 On 4 Jul 2015 14:34, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been having trouble with wifi for several weeks now. Multiple
 tries to connect,
 then the connection drops at random times. I have just bought a new Acer
 laptop
 and installed jessie but the problems persist. I was at starbucks and
 after connection,
 the connection would drop in 4 to 6 seconds. Then I noticed in syslog that
 the wpa_supplicant is cycling on and off at about that rate. One of the
 messages
 in syslog suggested deleting /run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0 which I did. But it
 reappeared a few seconds later. There is also a
 /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0
 which seems rather odd.

 Any clues, anybody??

 Richard


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Re: [vox-tech] Wi-fi issue

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Harke

No data had been migrated when we noticed the problem.

Ans I didn't buy a windows machine, my wife did. And the question is not
about
windows but about the access point. How does anything get connected without
the pass phrase? this is on an ASUS RT-N16 I have just checked and it still
shows
WPA2 personal as the security setting.

Richard


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mark's tech help markinda...@hush.com
wrote:


 Maybe there's a Winblows version of ntop?  Or someone could compile it
 with cygwin or such?
 Bigger question--  why would you buy a Microsoft product then seek help
 from Linux enthusiasts?
 If you're serious about asking us.. emailing me directly, you could
 request my services in instructing you as to turning it into a dual- or
 multi-boot system, so that when Window$ invevitably grinds to a halt with
 worms and viruses, you'll have a superior, open-source alternative waiting
 there for you.

 In pursuit of freedom,
   Mark



 On 4/1/2015 at 5:14 AM, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We just bought a new desk top PC for my wife, running Win-7.
 She normally has lots of USB stuff  attached but I started by only
 connecting a monitor, keyboard and mouse (wireless). Booted up
 fine and I
 left
 it to my wife to set name, password and such. Then she told me it
 was
 downloading tons of updates from MSN. But how?? I hadn't connected

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Re: [vox-tech] what's up with debian?

2014-11-29 Thread Richard Harke

Just to finish this thread...  I installed squeeze using an old net install
cd I had
and then I upgraded to wheezy.

Richard


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com
wrote:

 that has the checksum for the i386 version, not amd64. i poked around and
 found a directory
 for amd64 that did have am md5sum file but it was for other files than the
 one I downloaded. The directory contained five other amd64 iso's, all
 different from the one I downloaded.
 I have manged now to boot the usb stick but the install program can't find
 the right
 kernel modules even tho there is an initrd on the stick. I think it is
 only looking at the hard
 drives.

 Richard


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us
 wrote:

 Google sez an MD5SUMS file is here: http://cdimage.debian.org/
 debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/

 Don't know if that is the one you downloaded. It is not unheard of for
 the copy on one website to be bad, so repeated downloading might not help.
 Do your due diligence.

 I would not be surprised about those strings being present... they would
 be delivered if the first-stage boot loader had difficulty.

 On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Richard Harke wrote:

  its an iso. debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso  I didn't see a checksum for
 iton the debian web site. I have downloaded several times

 and burned the dvd
 more than once on different machines. all with same result.
 Very near the beginning of the iso is the text isolinux.bin missing or
 corrupt
 Also the text Operating system load error

 Richard


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Jeff Newmiller 
 jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us wrote:
   Is the net install an iso? If so, check the md5sum for the image
 you downloaded. Then verify that it burned properly. I
   know no details of the current Debian images, but I have
 encountered problems in all three of these ways in the past.
   
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   On November 25, 2014 2:09:05 PM PST, Richard Harke 
 paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:
   I have a machine running lenny and I was going to upgrade but the
   disk drive started to fail so I decided to do a fresh install on
 the
   new
   drive. downloaded the net install and burned a dvd. won't boot.
   copied it to a usb stick. I get a no operating system error
 message.
   I have an older net install dvd which boots fine. I also tried the
   debian live image but no luck. Its beginning to look like I'll
 have to
   install
   squeeze and then upgrade, a much longer process.
   
   Richard
   
   
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Re: [vox-tech] what's up with debian?

2014-11-26 Thread Richard Harke

that has the checksum for the i386 version, not amd64. i poked around and
found a directory
for amd64 that did have am md5sum file but it was for other files than the
one I downloaded. The directory contained five other amd64 iso's, all
different from the one I downloaded.
I have manged now to boot the usb stick but the install program can't find
the right
kernel modules even tho there is an initrd on the stick. I think it is only
looking at the hard
drives.

Richard


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us
wrote:

 Google sez an MD5SUMS file is here: http://cdimage.debian.org/
 debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/

 Don't know if that is the one you downloaded. It is not unheard of for the
 copy on one website to be bad, so repeated downloading might not help.
 Do your due diligence.

 I would not be surprised about those strings being present... they would
 be delivered if the first-stage boot loader had difficulty.

 On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Richard Harke wrote:

  its an iso. debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso  I didn't see a checksum for
 iton the debian web site. I have downloaded several times

 and burned the dvd
 more than once on different machines. all with same result.
 Very near the beginning of the iso is the text isolinux.bin missing or
 corrupt
 Also the text Operating system load error

 Richard


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us
 wrote:
   Is the net install an iso? If so, check the md5sum for the image
 you downloaded. Then verify that it burned properly. I
   know no details of the current Debian images, but I have
 encountered problems in all three of these ways in the past.
   
 ---
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   On November 25, 2014 2:09:05 PM PST, Richard Harke 
 paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:
   I have a machine running lenny and I was going to upgrade but the
   disk drive started to fail so I decided to do a fresh install on
 the
   new
   drive. downloaded the net install and burned a dvd. won't boot.
   copied it to a usb stick. I get a no operating system error
 message.
   I have an older net install dvd which boots fine. I also tried the
   debian live image but no luck. Its beginning to look like I'll
 have to
   install
   squeeze and then upgrade, a much longer process.
   
   Richard
   
   
 
 
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[vox-tech] what's up with debian?

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Harke

I have a machine running lenny and I was going to upgrade but the
disk drive started to fail so I decided to do a fresh install on the new
drive. downloaded the net install and burned a dvd. won't boot.
copied it to a usb stick. I get a no operating system error message.
I have an older net install dvd which boots fine. I also tried the
debian live image but no luck. Its beginning to look like I'll have to
install
squeeze and then upgrade, a much longer process.

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] what's up with debian?

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Harke

its an iso. debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso  I didn't see a checksum for it
on the debian web site. I have downloaded several times and burned the dvd
more than once on different machines. all with same result.
Very near the beginning of the iso is the text isolinux.bin missing or
corrupt
Also the text Operating system load error

Richard


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us
wrote:

 Is the net install an iso? If so, check the md5sum for the image you
 downloaded. Then verify that it burned properly. I know no details of the
 current Debian images, but I have encountered problems in all three of
 these ways in the past.
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 On November 25, 2014 2:09:05 PM PST, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have a machine running lenny and I was going to upgrade but the
 disk drive started to fail so I decided to do a fresh install on the
 new
 drive. downloaded the net install and burned a dvd. won't boot.
 copied it to a usb stick. I get a no operating system error message.
 I have an older net install dvd which boots fine. I also tried the
 debian live image but no luck. Its beginning to look like I'll have to
 install
 squeeze and then upgrade, a much longer process.
 
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[vox-tech] slashdot problem

2014-09-15 Thread Richard Harke

Lately (a few weeks) I've been having a problem with slashdot. If I leave
the browser
tab open, they eventually send down something which causes my laptop to
burn cpu
cycles and eventually overheat and shut down. Today I had top running when
I noticed
it starting to get hot. I checked top and the cpu usage had jumped to over
50%
I closed the tab with slashdot and cpu usage immediately dropped to 1 or 2%
I'm running debian wheezy and the browser is chrome. ASUS laptop
with Intel i7 (4 cores)

Anybody have any idea whats going on?

Richard
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[vox-tech] bing street view

2014-05-02 Thread Richard Harke

Just saw a camera car from Bing go down my neighbors driveway
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Re: [vox-tech] troubleshooting Ubuntu Tahr upgrade

2014-04-22 Thread Richard Harke

I just installed R on debian wheezy and I dont see this problem. Since
ubuntu derives
from debian it must be something the ubuntu folks did. You might try an
ubuntu
mailing list or help forum.

Richard



On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Carl Boettiger cboet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi list,

 I've just upgraded my Ubuntu system to 14.04 / Tahr (thanks Alex for the
 pointer earlier). I now find that when I launch the R software
 environment, I immediately get a segmentation fault with no further warning
 or error message.

 I tried removing the relevant base package, which seemed to successfully
 remove R entirely from my system:

 sudo aptitude remove --purge r-base-core

 I then simply reinstalled r-base-core, but same error persists.

 my sources.list shows:

 deb http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/
 deb-src http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/

 I've never encountered this problem in an upgrade before.  Any suggestions
 on how I should troubleshoot this one?  Many thanks!

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Re: [vox-tech] Possible rootkit

2013-09-23 Thread Richard Harke

I emailed vox-tech too soon and googled too slow. It appears all is normal.

Richard


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Rod Roark r...@sunsetsystems.com wrote:

 rtkit-daemon is a normal process:

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/rtkit

 Rod

 On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:52:01 -0400
 Ken Bloom kbl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Do a clean reinstall. In your new installation, change your passwords and
  make sure you have the latest security updates.
  On Sep 23, 2013 1:49 AM, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I may have screwed up. I opened a GIF that I received in an email using
   ImageMagick. The image didn't have a close button so I used ps -A to
 find
   the
   task. I didn't find any called ImageMagick but there was one named
   display.im6
   and when I killed it, the icon on the task bar went away. But I also
 found
   a task
   called rtkit-daemon which I killed. But now I also find a whole new
   directory
   named /run which seems to have a lot of executables in it. All time
 stamped
   about the time this happened. Whoops, I forgot 24 hour clock. The time
   stamps
   are this morning so maybe it doesn't have to do with the GIF. In any
 case
   I assume everything in /run is trojaned.
  
   I am open for advice.
  
   Richard
  
  
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[vox-tech] Possible rootkit

2013-09-22 Thread Richard Harke

I may have screwed up. I opened a GIF that I received in an email using
ImageMagick. The image didn't have a close button so I used ps -A to find
the
task. I didn't find any called ImageMagick but there was one named
display.im6
and when I killed it, the icon on the task bar went away. But I also found
a task
called rtkit-daemon which I killed. But now I also find a whole new
directory
named /run which seems to have a lot of executables in it. All time stamped
about the time this happened. Whoops, I forgot 24 hour clock. The time
stamps
are this morning so maybe it doesn't have to do with the GIF. In any case I
assume everything in /run is trojaned.

I am open for advice.

Richard
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[vox-tech] linux audio

2013-07-20 Thread Richard Harke

I have been trying to get a program that would let me adjust the volume
differently for different frequencies. I thought maybe baudline would do
it, but I cannot figure out how to use it. pulseaudio is running but how to
change settings is unclear.
Inputs and output seem to be given only in terms of card not actual
devices, like
the microphone and speakers.
I am running debian wheezy on an ASUS laptop

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[vox-tech] KDE on Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Richard Harke

I have a machine with Debian lenny and that is just fine. When I got  new
laptop, I
installed Debian squeeze with KDE. It has always been a bit quirky which is
why the other machine has stayed at lenny. Recently my laptop has stopped
showing open
applications on the task bar. I haven't been able to find a configuration
to reverse this. In the proces of trying to fix this, I have upgraded to
wheezy but no change.

Does anyone know how to get my open applications back on the taskbar?

It would also be goog to stop the annoying iconifying of the whole
interface.

I have tried for documentation at KDE.org but I think the site is broken.

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[vox-tech] GDB for Go

2013-04-02 Thread Richard Harke

I'm playing around with the Go language but I need a newer version of GDB
I have 7.0 but 7.3-1 is in debian-squeeze backports ( I'm running squeeze)
I added the squeeze backports to my sources.list but when I run apt-get
it says cannot find it. I have also tried aptitude but that doesn't show it
at all.
Came anybody enlighten me?

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Re: [vox-tech] GDB for Go

2013-04-02 Thread Richard Harke

Thanks. That worked just great.


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.comwrote:

 On 04/02/2013 04:36 PM, Richard Harke wrote:
  I'm playing around with the Go language but I need a newer version of GDB
  I have 7.0 but 7.3-1 is in debian-squeeze backports ( I'm running
 squeeze)
  I added the squeeze backports to my sources.list but when I run apt-get
  it says cannot find it. I have also tried aptitude but that doesn't show
 it
  at all.
  Came anybody enlighten me?
 
  Richard
 

 http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/

 apt-get -t squeeze-backports install gdb

 I think they did that so you have to intentionally install specific
 backports. Otherwise one might as well upgrade.

 Enjoy,
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Re: [vox-tech] using dd to convert ebcdic to ascii?

2013-03-05 Thread Richard Harke

did you look at info dd?
conv=ascii


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Brian Lavender br...@brie.com wrote:

 I have some files I am retrieving from a Mainframe. I am using dd to
 convert
 them to

   `ascii'

  Convert EBCDIC to ASCII, using the conversion table specified

  by POSIX.  This provides a 1:1 translation for all 256 bytes.


 So it sounds very reasonable

Richard


 ascii. Is this a good way to convert? The file foo.txt is in
 ebcdic.

 dd if=foo.txt of=foo_ascii.txt conv=ascii

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Re: [vox-tech] KDE Weirdness

2012-08-14 Thread Richard Harke

What distro are you running? For debian squeeze I see a package called
kde-full. You might try installing that.

Richard

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Richard S. Crawford
rich...@underpope.comwrote:

 After a major issue with my Nvidia drivers this weekend (I resolved it by
 simply booting into the right kernel -- sigh), I'm having problems getting
 KDE working properly. While I was trying to fix the Nvidia issue, I removed
 a bunch of packages related to KDE and NVidia, and lost track of what went
 away. Now I'm having the following issues:

 * Keyboard
 The really weird thing here is that I can use non-KDE applications such as
 LibreOffice just fine. It's just KDE applications where my keyboard is
 non-responsive. I can still use Alt+Ctrl+Fx to get to a terminal, though.

 * Window Decorations are missing

 * All my desktop effects are disabled

 Anyone here have any ideas?


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Re: [vox-tech] Cheap laptop

2012-07-13 Thread Richard Harke

Old is not important. Cheap is. Obviously, with the cheapest new machines
running around $250,
I would want to beat that by a good margin. Need to have a working  network
interface, wired or Wi-Fi
supported by linux.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.comwrote:

 On 07/12/2012 08:31 PM, Richard Harke wrote:
  My wife is looking for a cheap, used laptop. It doesn't need to have a
  large drive or a lot of memory.
  It would need to be able to run linux. Does anyone here have an old
 machine
  they would like to sell?
  (Reply off list)
 
  Richard Harke
 
 

 How old? Any particular feature set or price range. I've been quite
 impressed with what you can get for $300 new from newegg, fry's etc.
 That said Tiger Direct also sells off lease (rented to business) 3 year
 old machines (Med to high end Thinkpads) starting around $200-300 too.

 Enjoy,
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Re: [vox-tech] ASUS webcam

2012-06-12 Thread Richard Harke

To follow up--   My wife loaned me her external web cam. But I found there
doesn't seem to be any way to tell the application which camera to use. In
the process of testing I found that the image in google talk was right side
up using the built-in camera (with the patched driver). I hadn't tried it
because the image was still upside down in cheese. So, while I am still
puzzled, the main problem is solved.


On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have an ASUS laptop (N82J), with which I am mostly pretty happy.
 Recently I decide I would like to use the built-in webcam. Apparently ASUS
 makes it a practice to install the camera upside down. Searching the
 internet I have found two potential solutions. One is to patch the driver,
 uvc_video.ko. The other involves pre-loading libv4l/v4l1compat.so.
 I have studied the patch carefully and it does reorder the lines of the
 video buffer but the image displayed is still upside down. I'm using cheese
 to test this.
 To be honest, I don't really understand the other method as the
 applications using the webcam don't link v4l1compat.so But in any case it
 doesn't work for all applications.
 For google talk I tried the suggestion to preload the .so and the google
 plugin in the background before starting chrome. Well, google talk still
 worked but the image was still upside down.

 I am perplexed and short of ideas. And I don't think holding the laptop
 upside down will work.

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[vox-tech] ASUS webcam

2012-06-10 Thread Richard Harke

I have an ASUS laptop (N82J), with which I am mostly pretty happy. Recently
I decide I would like to use the built-in webcam. Apparently ASUS makes it
a practice to install the camera upside down. Searching the internet I have
found two potential solutions. One is to patch the driver, uvc_video.ko.
The other involves pre-loading libv4l/v4l1compat.so.
I have studied the patch carefully and it does reorder the lines of the
video buffer but the image displayed is still upside down. I'm using cheese
to test this.
To be honest, I don't really understand the other method as the
applications using the webcam don't link v4l1compat.so But in any case it
doesn't work for all applications.
For google talk I tried the suggestion to preload the .so and the google
plugin in the background before starting chrome. Well, google talk still
worked but the image was still upside down.

I am perplexed and short of ideas. And I don't think holding the laptop
upside down will work.

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Re: [vox-tech] C++ problem

2012-05-14 Thread Richard Harke

Thanks for the suggestion. With valgrind I found all the problems. That the
variable was local to the constructor was not a problem.
The main problem was that I was later assigning another value, over-writing
the value from new. And of course that meant the
delete couldn't work either. I have a larger program that does extensive
new's and deletes and I have had it run for hours without
running out of memory. I wrote that several years ago and I guess I've
gotten rusty.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Harold Lee har...@hotelling.net wrote:

 Using delete[] for an array allocated with new[] is correct, so I
 don't think you've given us enough information to find the bug.

 Are you getting any compiler warnings or errors?
 Have you tried compiling with -Wall and -Wextra?
 Are any of these overwritten variables pointers into the array var?
 Could the array size stored at address (var - 4) have been overwritten
 by accident by some other code?
 Have you tried using valgrind to automatically find an accidental
 overwrite earlier in execution?

 Harold

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Jeff Newmiller
 jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us wrote:
  It did make it to me, but
 
  a) I am out of town away from computers, and
 
  b) without a working example I probably would not look at it very closely
 
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  Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My last post seems to have gotten lost so I'll try again.
 
 I'm working on a small C++ program. In one of the constructors I
 create an array with
 double * var = new double [size]   After use, before exiting the
 constructor I return the memory with delete [] var  But after return
 from the delete, several private class variables are written over.
 I have checked that these variables are correct just before the delete
 call and are modified right after. Does anyone have any idea what is
 going on?
 
 I'm running debian squeeze for amd64  with gcc 4.4.5 This morning I
 did an apt-get upgrade to be sure I had any recent fixes.
 
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[vox-tech] C++ problem

2012-05-12 Thread Richard Harke

I'm working on a small C++ program. In one of the constructors I
create a local pointer variable
with double * var = new double [size]  I later return the memory with
delete [] var
Immediately after the delete I find that some of the class's private
variables have been over written. The variables are ok just before the
call to delete.

Does anyone have any ideas about this??

I'm running debian squeeze and the compiler is gcc 4.4.5
Also I did an apt-get upgrade this morning to pick up any fixes.

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[vox-tech] C++ problem

2012-05-12 Thread Richard Harke

My last post seems to have gotten lost so I'll try again.

I'm working on a small C++ program. In one of the constructors I
create an array with
double * var = new double [size]   After use, before exiting the
constructor I return the memory with delete [] var  But after return
from the delete, several private class variables are written over.
I have checked that these variables are correct just before the delete
call and are modified right after. Does anyone have any idea what is
going on?

I'm running debian squeeze for amd64  with gcc 4.4.5 This morning I
did an apt-get upgrade to be sure I had any recent fixes.

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Re: [vox-tech] Serious Xorg problem

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Harke

I didn't think any video corruption was normal. In any case, by killing and
restarting X, the problem went away. I'm running the nvidia driver, version
260.19.36, apparently from March of last year.

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Bill Broadley b...@broadley.org wrote:

 On 05/04/2012 03:13 PM, Richard Harke wrote:
  I'm at Panera bread using their wi-fi. After I logged in with panera,
  I opened another tab. Then a
  box-image (badly corrupted) from panera appeared over the second tab.
  Even worse this box now appears over all windows based applications,
  emacs and okular, in particular. It is still there
  even after I kill the application and re-start it. It also appears
  over the other browser I wasn't using at the time. This makes me
  believe it is something in Xorg. But as far as I can tell, no libs
  or bins were modified. This on debian squeeze for amd-64. (on an asus
  laptop) This is making the machine nearly unusable.

 Sounds like a normal video corruption.  I'd logout and login.

 Which graphics driver are you using?

 Chipset?

 For ATI and Nvidia the binary drive from ATI/Nvidia is generally the
 more reliable.  Intel's opensource drivers have been pretty good lately.

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[vox-tech] Serious Xorg problem

2012-05-04 Thread Richard Harke

I'm at Panera bread using their wi-fi. After I logged in with panera,
I opened another tab. Then a
box-image (badly corrupted) from panera appeared over the second tab.
Even worse this box now appears over all windows based applications,
emacs and okular, in particular. It is still there
even after I kill the application and re-start it. It also appears
over the other browser I wasn't using at the time. This makes me
believe it is something in Xorg. But as far as I can tell, no libs
or bins were modified. This on debian squeeze for amd-64. (on an asus
laptop) This is making the machine nearly unusable.

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Re: [vox-tech] [SPAM?] Re: Neighbor's printers

2012-04-24 Thread Richard Harke

I have never connected to their access point. My printer is connected to my
wired network so there is no chance they could
connect to it. I didn't try to print the neighbor's printer and they stayed
on my menu for only a minute or two.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.uswrote:

 Can you elaborate on that, or provide a link? AFAIK you have to, at some
 point, configure your printer to use your access point (router), which they
 should find difficult to do (certainly unintentionally). Alternatively, you
 could have set up their network access point as an alternative to your own
 on your computer, and your  computer could have connected there instead of
 to your own access point if it had difficulty with your AP this morning.
 Once identified by your computer as usable printers, that information might
 be retained even after your computer reconnects to your own network. So,
 are they usable?
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 On 04/23/2012 12:41 PM, Richard Harke wrote:
  This morning when I went to print something, the print menu showed
 two
  extra printers that apparently belong to a neighbor. Since my wi-fi
 is
  secured with WPA2, if even if the neighbors isn't, how is this
 possible?
 
When trying to print, what are you using? A desktop or a laptop?
And is there a WiFi card on the item (laptop?).
 
If so you are receiving the info directly to your laptop without
it going through your router.
 
 
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[vox-tech] Neighbor's printers

2012-04-23 Thread Richard Harke

This morning when I went to print something, the print menu showed two
extra printers that apparently belong to a neighbor. Since my wi-fi is
secured with WPA2, if even if the neighbors isn't, how is this possible?

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Re: [vox-tech] Neighbor's printers

2012-04-23 Thread Richard Harke

We don't get along that well so the BBQ is out of the question. After my
earlier post, I checked WICD and it showed two
networks besides mine. One was secured with WPA2 but the other was open. I
was working from my laptop.
I was rather surprised that these printers would show up without an
installation process.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM, jimbo evesautomot...@wavecable.com wrote:

 **
 They aren't secure.

 Hey...why don't you print something on theirs and see if it works!  Be a
 nifty way to invite your neighbors over for a bbq.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com
 *To:* vox-tech@lists.lugod.org
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 12:41 PM
 *Subject:* [vox-tech] Neighbor's printers

 This morning when I went to print something, the print menu showed two
 extra printers that apparently belong to a neighbor. Since my wi-fi is
 secured with WPA2, if even if the neighbors isn't, how is this possible?

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[vox-tech] Iceweasel

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Harke

Recently I have been having a lot of trouble with firefox (aka
iceweasel) spontaneously aborting.
This has happened several times when using the back button but also
when clicking on
a link. When I restart, it usually goes on from the same point without problem.

Has anyone else seen this problem? I'm running deian squeeze (amd-64)
with iceweasel
from the distribution.

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Re: [vox-tech] Wi-Fi

2011-10-20 Thread Richard Harke

To follow up:  I removed knetworkmanager and installed wicd. I got mixed
results.
At my favorite coffee spot, I got the free wi-fi on wicd's connect menu and
it
actually did connect. But it does not work for my home network. Of course
the
free wi-fi is not encrypted while my home wi-fi is set to WPA2. I have been
able to
connect manually (using ifup). Also, with wicd I didn't see any way
to disconnect.
I do get my home network on the connect menu of wicd but according
to syslog dhcp fails to get an IP. When I use ifup, it gets an IP on the
first
try.

Richard


On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Nick Schmalenberger 
n...@schmalenberger.us wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:33:57PM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
  On 11-10-17 07:02 PM, Richard Harke wrote:
   I got a new router/access point and have been going nuts trying to get
   my laptop to connect
   via wireless. I previously had static IP addresses but my wife wanted
   me to change to dhcp
   to make things easier for her windows machines. Well, her machines are
   just fine. The dos I've
   read said that fr KDE I should use knetworkmanager, which I'm trying
   to do. I finally left
   my eth0 config in /etc/network/interfaces and intend for
   knetworkmanager to just handle
   wireless. I think I'm getting close as I now get a popup window for
   the pass phrase but
   still no connection.
  Dump knetworkmanager and download wicd.  It's easier to work with and it
  works like a charm.
 
 I still just use /etc/network/interfaces, even for wpa wireless
 networks. If there are some I don't connect to often, I keep a
 separate wpa_supplicant configuration file for them
 (wpa_passphrase generates it) and use that manually with
 wpa_supplicant then run dhclient manually.
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[vox-tech] Wi-Fi

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Harke

I got a new router/access point and have been going nuts trying to get my
laptop to connect
via wireless. I previously had static IP addresses but my wife wanted me to
change to dhcp
to make things easier for her windows machines. Well, her machines are just
fine. The dos I've
read said that fr KDE I should use knetworkmanager, which I'm trying to do.
I finally left
my eth0 config in /etc/network/interfaces and intend for knetworkmanager to
just handle
wireless. I think I'm getting close as I now get a popup window for the pass
phrase but
still no connection.
Below is the syslog during one try to connect. Can someone tell me what this
means?

Richard Harke

Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
starting connection 'home'
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): device state
change: 3 - 4 (reason 0)
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): device state
change: 4 - 5 (reason 0)
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation
(wlan0/wireless): access point 'home' has security, but secrets are
required.
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): device state
change: 5 - 6 (reason 0)
Oct 17 18:45:59 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): device state
change: 6 - 9 (reason 7)
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: warn Activation (wlan0)
failed for access point (oaktree)
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info Marking connection
'home' invalid.
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: warn Activation (wlan0)
failed.
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): device state
change: 9 - 3 (reason 0)
Oct 17 18:46:06 grassmann NetworkManager[1982]: info (wlan0): deactivating
device (reason: 0).
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[vox-tech] Baffling C++ problem

2011-07-15 Thread Richard Harke

The following is a piece of a much larger file. This used to compile but
since
some changes else where in the file it no longer does. I'm baffled. g2_n is
a member
variable to the Grid class, as are all the other variables being output.
This code fragment
is part of a function that is in the Grid class. I tried breaking the output
into two
statements but I still got the same error. I have tried on two machines. One
is running
Debian lenny, the other Debian squeeze. The compiler revisions are 4.3 and
4.4

Can anybody give me a clue?


  if (i_cnt  10) {
std::ostringstream file_name;
file_name  ch   i_cnt  std::ends;
std::ofstream test_file(file_name.str().c_str());
test_file  std::setprecision(15);
test_filer   X_n   X_nf  Z_n   Z_nf   g1_n   g1_nf  g2_n   g2_nf
mass_n  mass_nf;
test_file  std::endl;
for (int i = 0; i  size; i++) {
  test_file  r1[i]  ' '  X_n[i]  ' '  X_nf[i]  ' '  Z_n[i]
 ' '  Z_nf[i]
g1_n[i] g1_nf[i]g2_n[i]
g2_nf[i]  ' '// this is line 1785
 mass_n[i]  ' '  mass_nf[i]  std::endl;
}
i_cnt++;


grid.cc: In member function 'void
Grid::interpolate_from_parent(Special_Float)':
grid.cc:1785: error: expected `;' before 'g2_n'
make: *** [grid.o] Error 1
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Re: [vox-tech] Baffling C++ problem

2011-07-15 Thread Richard Harke

Thanks a lot. I was staring at this so hard I couldn't see it!

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Matthew Holland mdholl...@ucdavis.eduwrote:

 Then it's unanimous :)

 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Harold Lee har...@hotelling.net wrote:
  Looks like you're missing a  between the   and the g2_n[i]
 
  On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Richard Harke paleopeng...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
if (i_cnt  10) {
  std::ostringstream file_name;
  file_name  ch   i_cnt  std::ends;
  std::ofstream test_file(file_name.str().c_str());
  test_file  std::setprecision(15);
  test_filer   X_n   X_nf  Z_n   Z_nf   g1_n   g1_nf  g2_n
  g2_nf  mass_n  mass_nf;
  test_file  std::endl;
  for (int i = 0; i  size; i++) {
test_file  r1[i]  ' '  X_n[i]  ' '  X_nf[i]  ' ' 
  Z_n[i]  ' '  Z_nf[i]
  g1_n[i] g1_nf[i]g2_n[i]
  g2_nf[i]  ' '// this is line 1785
   mass_n[i]  ' '  mass_nf[i]  std::endl;
  }
  i_cnt++;
 
 
  grid.cc: In member function 'void
  Grid::interpolate_from_parent(Special_Float)':
  grid.cc:1785: error: expected `;' before 'g2_n'
  make: *** [grid.o] Error 1
 
 
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[vox-tech] Iceweasel that will not die

2011-03-09 Thread Richard Harke

I was having a lot of trouble with the browser, I decided to nuke all the cached
stuff and start over. Under tools, I used the delete function to clear
the caches.
This didn't seem to clear everything. Finally I did an apt-get purge on
iceweasel. Then shutdown and rebooted. Then I reinstalled using apt-get.
But when I try to start iceweasel, I get a message that it is already running.
I have done ps -A as root but I don't see anything that looks like iceweasel.
I have also looked for a lock file but no luck. Does anybody have an idea?
system is debian lenny and I use KDE

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Re: [vox-tech] What happened to KPDF?

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Harke

Thanks. I had not heard of Okular so I did not know what to look for.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Ken Bloom kbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 21:20 -0800, Richard Harke wrote:
  I did get a new laptop and I have been installing debian squeeze on
  it. But I can't
  find KPDF. There's no mention of it on the debian site for squeeze and
  no mention
  on the kde web site. There is a a kpdf.kde.org but it looks like it
  hasn't been
  updated in quite a while. I really need a good PDF reader and i was
  most happy
  with KPDF. I snagged an alpha version of adobe reader (64 bit version)
  when they had it
  available but, at least on my deskop, I can't print from it. Always
  returns an error.

 In KDE 4.x, KPDF has been replaced with Okular.

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[vox-tech] Laptop for linux

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Harke

My laptop died so I am looking for a new one. I'm sure many people on this
list
have opinions about this. I thought an Asus N82JQ looked good -- i7
processor with Nvidia 335M graphics but then its battery life is not too
good. Can anybody suggest something with good processing power,
Nvidia graphics and not too terrible battery life? Also, I don't want too
large,
14 screen looks to be good. I will be installing linux, of course.

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Re: [vox-tech] failed to build a computer

2011-01-21 Thread Richard Harke

Most of the systems I have built used beep codes for he most serious
failures. This required a small speaker
(usually comes with case) and connection from mobo. Manual should tell you
what beep codes mean.

Richard

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Hai Yi yihai2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all:

 I am in the process of building a new desktop, and ran into some serious
 problems. I've been struggling with them for the past two days w/o too much
 success.

 Please kindly bear with me. These are my desktop's specs:

 Case: Silverstone FT02B
 PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
 Mobo:GA-X58A-UD3R
 CPU: i7-950
 Video Card: Radeon HD 5870
 Memory:GSkill 4G * 2 DDR3 1600
 SSD: Kingston 128G

 I also use a old HDD (250G) for now.

 The problem is, after I wired up all internal wires and powered up the
 system, the system kept resetting, and there is no video signals. If I
 pressed the cle cmos button (there is one on the ft02B case, so I guess I
 don't have to jump) during this process, the reseting stops, but still no
 video signals. Next time I power up, the above happens again.

 both atx_12v_2x and atx slots were hooked up with the PSU; two rams were on
 bank 1 2; power/reset sw and others were rightly put in the F_PANEL.

 two PCI-E cables from PSU were hooked up with the video card to feed power.

 It seems to me that I've exhausted all avenues I can think of to tackle the
 problem, well, before I came here. :-)

 Can anyone give me a hand here?

 Thanks a lot!
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[vox-tech] (O.T.) Strange Image

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Harke

I was perusing satellite images on google maps when I happened across
Hell Hole Resevoir. There was a very strange image on or over the water
that i could not identify. I'm pretty sure the satellite doesn't get bugs
crawling across the camera lens so I'm puzzled as to what this thing is.
If any one is curious, maybe they could look at it and maybe
some one can identify what it is. (Hell Hole Resevoir is in the Sierras,
east of Georgetown and west of Lake Tahoe. Google knows where it
is.)

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Acer AL2216W (blank screen)

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Harke

In recent years I have noticed that video cards die distressingly soon.
Often with
strange symptoms that make it appear to be something more basic. I do have
to admit
that the most recen time (about two weeks ago) it was in fact the monitor.
That was an
HP 22 LCD monitor only 5 years old. My previous monitor was a Sony CRT that
went back
to the early 90's.

I can only suugest that you try swapping out starting with whatever you can
do cheaply.
Especially if you can borrow a component for testing.

I do have an extra video card but I'm not in Davis so you'd have to wait
till
the regular Lugod meeting.

Richard


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Thomas Johnston trjohns...@ucdavis.eduwrote:

 I am running Kubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) on my Dell Vostro 1500 and using
 an Acer AL2216W as a second monitor. Everything was working great
 until last Monday morning. I powered up the computer, activated the
 external monitor and the max resolution was 1280x1024 (the native
 resolution is 1680x1050 - same as my laptop display). I didn't do
 anything to modify any video settings so I don't know exactly what
 prompted the change; however, there were about 10 bug fixes the day
 before. Looking at the history of fixes I don't see anything that
 looks likely to cause a problem, but I am certainly not a Linux
 expert.

 Anyway, I have spent the last 4 days doing everything I can to make it
 work again: updated drivers, uninstalled/reinstalled drivers, deleting
 the xorg.conf file and having one auto generated, manually editing the
 xorg.conf  nothing has worked. In fact, the situation is now
 worse. I can't even get the monitor to display anything anymore - just
 a black screen. I think the monitor itself is fine, if I turn it on I
 see the ACER logo appear, then I briefly see a dialog box that says
 no signal, and then it goes blank. I don't have a great
 understanding of the xorg.conf file, but I was very careful when
 editing it. I read all of the NVIDIA documentation online and I found
 examples of xorg.conf files online from people with this same monitor
 who claimed to have it working, so I don't think I used a refresh/sync
 rate beyond what the monitor is capable of (I didn't smell any
 smoke!).  My Google searches have indicated that many people have had
 problems reading EDID data from this monitor. I have even plugged it
 into a Windows machine with an ATI graphics card and same
 thing...blank screen.

 I checked the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and I see this warning:
 (WW) Sep 16 15:07:43 NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device
 CRT-0

 there are no errors (EE) generated.

 Other system details in case it is relevant:
 The monitor is connected to my graphics card via the VGA port (my
 laptop doesn't have any other display ports; however the monitor does
 have a DVI-D connection)
 NVIDIA Driver Version: 256.53
 Server Version: 1.7.6
 NV-CONTROL Version: 1.23
 Graphics Card: GeForce 8600M GT


 My question is: do you think the monitor is toast or would work again
 if I could get a working EDID.bin and/or xorg.conf file (perhaps from
 kind soul on the interwebs)?


 thanks in advance,

 Thomas
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[vox-tech] MTA

2010-04-29 Thread Richard Harke

Not the MTA Charlie got stuck on. I'm running Debian and every recent
(and maybe not so recent) install has installed exim4 as a Mail Transfer
Agent. But is not clear that this is doing anything for me. I normally do
email
through my ISP or in some cases through gmail. When I take my laptop
out for coffee, it takes a really long time to decide to skip the MTA
startup
because it doesn't have internet access. Is there any reason I can't or
shouldn't
disable it?

Richard
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[vox-tech] Avoiding Mesa install

2010-03-09 Thread Richard Harke

I need to install some libraries but apt-get wants to add Mesa to the mix. I
don't want Mesa
as I already fine 3d supprot with the Nvidia drive. This is debian lenny on
x86_64

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Re: [vox-tech] Et tu, Debian

2009-12-16 Thread Richard Harke

Thanks a lot! That did it. I guess it proves the only thing you can believe
in an
error message is that there is an error.

Richard


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Eric Lin notapplicable.h...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 08:03:53PM -0800, Richard Harke wrote:
  Recent news that some MS users are locked out of their files by a screw
 up
  at MSN.
  Well, Debian has me locked out of some files. I have some data in an
  encrypted
  file system and I use loopback and cryptsetup to get to it. I very
 recently
  installed
  lenny for amd64, then today after I installed cryptsetup I found it would
  not run.
  Error message:
  Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.27 (2008-06-25)(compat)
 and
  kernel driver

 This could be due to not running cryptsetup as root, which I'm assuming
 you're doing, not having certain kernel modules loaded (aes, dm_mod, and
 dm-crypt), or not having the right version of libdevmapper.

 Let's start with the simplest solution and try to load the right
 modules.  This seems to have solved it for many people with the same
 issue:

 modprobe aes dm-crypt dm_mod

 Run it as root, and hopefully the problem's solved.

  There is only one version of libdevmapper on the debian site for stable,
  testing and unstable.
  There is a different verion of cryptsetup for testing (I'm running
 stable)
  but it won't install
  due to other conflicts. Despite the version in the error message, ldd
 shows
  that
  cryptsetup is looking for libdevmapper.so.1.02.1
  The debian site gives 1.02.1 as the version of the package but says the
  library is at
  version 1.02.27
 
  Can anyone make sense of this?
 
  Richard harke

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[vox-tech] Et tu, Debian

2009-12-15 Thread Richard Harke

Recent news that some MS users are locked out of their files by a screw up
at MSN.
Well, Debian has me locked out of some files. I have some data in an
encrypted
file system and I use loopback and cryptsetup to get to it. I very recently
installed
lenny for amd64, then today after I installed cryptsetup I found it would
not run.
Error message:
Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.27 (2008-06-25)(compat) and
kernel driver
There is only one version of libdevmapper on the debian site for stable,
testing and unstable.
There is a different verion of cryptsetup for testing (I'm running stable)
but it won't install
due to other conflicts. Despite the version in the error message, ldd shows
that
cryptsetup is looking for libdevmapper.so.1.02.1
The debian site gives 1.02.1 as the version of the package but says the
library is at
version 1.02.27

Can anyone make sense of this?

Richard harke
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Re: [vox-tech] Fwd: Very slow off net

2009-10-28 Thread Richard Harke

I have confirmed that Borders hotspot sets resolv.conf to use openDNS.
Which by the way, seems to work better than my router on my home network.
Maybe another example of the problems with earthlink.

That leaves the question: why access DNS at all for a application launch?
My desktop doesn't do it. Its debian lenny for x86 while my laptop
is debian etch for amd-64

Richard

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote:

 Quoting Richard Harke (paleopeng...@gmail.com):

  When I use my laptop without a network connection, it becomes very,
  very slow launching applications. I've done some tracing and
  apparently it sends some kind of request to a DNS server. Not just any
  DNS but openDNS in particular. When it's off-net, it waits for the
  time-out before continuing.  So two quesions Why contact DNS for any
  app launch? (This includes apps that have no possibility of using the
  net)

 This is difficult to answer without specifics.

  2nd. Why openDNS? I had never heard of them before and certainly
  haven't signed up for their service.

 You'll have to answer this question from local knowledge.  Obviously,
 somebody using your laptop at some point did something that re-pointed
 /etc/resolv.conf to them -- and nothing's overridden that, since.


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Re: [vox-tech] Fwd: Very slow off net

2009-10-28 Thread Richard Harke

For example, the solitaire card game. Bu it appears to happen with all
applications. I don't believe it is coming from the application but
somewhere in the system code that launches the app.

I used wireshark. let wireshark run. no traffic. Launch an app.
As soon as it is up, check wireshark. There are several packets shone,
including the DNS queries. Also, it appears no use is made of the
DNS queries in that I do not see follow up traffic.

Since it is not a particular application I don't know how I would use
strace.

I did forget to mention one important difference between my laptop
and desktop. The laptop is running gnome while my desktop is
running KDE. When I thought about this I began to think maybe
gnome is responsible but I don't know how to check this.

Richard

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote:

 Quoting Richard Harke (paleopeng...@gmail.com):

  That leaves the question: why access DNS at all for a application launch?

 Again, what application, for example?  And by what means do you know
 that that application is doing DNS lookups?  You say I've done some
 tracing, but I don't know what you've done to associate DNS lookups
 with particular non-network-oriented applicaitons.

 Once you know what application binary you're talking about, you can run
 it under strace to determine what system calls it's making.

 By the way, IMO, you really should consider running and using a local
 recursive DNS nameserver.  Doing so improve performance a great deal
 over using your router on your home network, which almost certainly is
 merely a forwarder.  It'll also improve performance over using OpenDNS,
 along with not giving the operators of that service detailed
 information about your Internet activity, _and_ (unlike OpenDNS) it
 would actually implement DNS technical standards correctly (i.e.,
 correctly answering NXDOMAIN when that's the truth).

 Possibly of related interest:
 http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2008q3/005308.html
 http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2008q3/005309.html
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Re: [vox-tech] Fwd: Very slow off net

2009-10-27 Thread Richard Harke

Sorry. I was trying to keep it short.
Linux, of course. Debian etch for amd-64

/etchosts has a 127.0.0.1 localhost grassmann
line plus a line 192.168.0.21 grassmann.harke.org grassmann
and similar for my other machines on this lan
every thing on this lan has fixed IP address

One mystery solved. /etc/resolv.conf has the IP addresses for openDNS
But I don't know how they got there. The file is dated 10/20 so it might be
from when I used the wifi at Borders. I had to change my interfaces file
and do a ifup ath0=borders to get connected. Could that have given
permission to rewrite /etc/resolv.conf?
I guess I could check this out the next time I'm at Borders.

I used wireshark to trace the net happenings. I just retried with the net
connected
to see if there was any follow up to the DNS query.  For firfox, er
iceweasel,
there was but for a card game no follow up.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Bill Broadley b...@broadley.org wrote:

 Bill Kendrick wrote:
 When I use my laptop without a network connection, it becomes very,
 very
 slow launching applications. I've done some tracing and apparently it
 sends

 Very strange.  Operating system?  Distribution?  Anything unusual?  What
 does
 hostname report?  What is in /etc/hosts?

 My best guess (with very little info) is that you are trying to find
 localhost
 and failing.

 some kind of request to a DNS server. Not just any DNS but openDNS in

 Apparently?  Strace?  Wireshark?  How you tracked it down would be helpful.

 particular. When its off net, it waits for the time-out before
 continuing.

 Ugly.  Try adding your hostname to the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.0.1

 So two quesions Why contact DNS for any app launch? (This includes
 apps that have no possibility of using the net)

 Anything that displays X (or runs inside of a new xterminal) needs to find
 the
 $DISPLAY, which might well do a hostname lookup to set/check the display.

 2nd. Why openDNS? I had never heard of them before and certainly
 haven't signed up for their service.

 I'm a fan, certainly much faster on average than what pacbell provides.
  Where
 does your laptop/router get it's IP?  Static?  DHCP from your network
 provider?  If it's dhcp then you are getting the DNS servers from your dhcp
 provider, if not then someone likely followed the opendns directions for
 your
 router/laptop.

 I wouldn't be terribly surprised if say a linksys router installed with a
 community linux distribution like openwrt defaulted to using opendns as a
 server.

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Re: [vox-tech] No node for CDROM

2007-10-01 Thread Richard Harke

I added ide_cd to /etc/modules and re-booted.
That seems to have fixed it.

Richard

On Sun September 30 2007 22:18, Richard Harke wrote:
 On Sun September 30 2007 20:17, Nick Schmalenberger wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 08:01:10PM -0700, Richard Harke wrote:
   I installed debian etch a couple of months ago and had no occasion
   to use the CDROM drive until recently. I was trying to play a CD and
   kept getting an error.  I found there is no node in /dev for it. I did
   find a node in /dev/.static/dev but of course no app will look there.
   This seems to be related to udev some how. I found a lof file in
   /var/log/installer called hardware-summary. according to that there was
   a CD drive recognized and the driver modules installed. Now the driver
   modules are not installed. (I had to re-boot because of a power outage)
   As I understand it, udevd is supposed to get an event from the kernel
   and craeate the node dynamically but how can it get an event when there
   are no drivers? Is there some program to run to get this to work?
 
  What driver is it? Is it on a different bus or controller than the hard
  drive? I suppose that works if you are at that point. Does dmesg say
  anything about your cd driver getting loaded?
  Nick Schmalenberger

 This is an ide drive on the second channel. Before the re-install I could
 just address it as /dev/hdb   I grepped all the /var/log/message* files for
 cd or hdb with no result. In /dev/.static/dev there is an alias, cdrom
 which links to hdb

 Richard

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[vox-tech] No node for CDROM

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Harke

I installed debian etch a couple of months ago and had no occasion
to use the CDROM drive until recently. I was trying to play a CD and
kept getting an error.  I found there is no node in /dev for it. I did find
a node in /dev/.static/dev but of course no app will look there. This seems to 
be related to udev some how. I found a lof file in /var/log/installer
called hardware-summary. according to that there was a CD drive recognized
and the driver modules installed. Now the driver modules are not
installed. (I had to re-boot because of a power outage)
As I understand it, udevd is supposed to get an event from the kernel
and craeate the node dynamically but how can it get an event when there
are no drivers? Is there some program to run to get this to work?

Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] No node for CDROM

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Harke

On Sun September 30 2007 20:17, Nick Schmalenberger wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 08:01:10PM -0700, Richard Harke wrote:
  I installed debian etch a couple of months ago and had no occasion
  to use the CDROM drive until recently. I was trying to play a CD and
  kept getting an error.  I found there is no node in /dev for it. I did
  find a node in /dev/.static/dev but of course no app will look there.
  This seems to be related to udev some how. I found a lof file in
  /var/log/installer called hardware-summary. according to that there was a
  CD drive recognized and the driver modules installed. Now the driver
  modules are not installed. (I had to re-boot because of a power outage)
  As I understand it, udevd is supposed to get an event from the kernel
  and craeate the node dynamically but how can it get an event when there
  are no drivers? Is there some program to run to get this to work?

 What driver is it? Is it on a different bus or controller than the hard
 drive? I suppose that works if you are at that point. Does dmesg say
 anything about your cd driver getting loaded?
 Nick Schmalenberger
This is an ide drive on the second channel. Before the re-install I could just
address it as /dev/hdb   I grepped all the /var/log/message* files for cd or 
hdb with no result. In /dev/.static/dev there is an alias, cdrom which links 
to hdb

Richard


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Re: [vox-tech] Buying an LCD screen

2007-07-25 Thread Richard Harke

I bought an LCD monitor a couple of months ago, an HP w2207.
If I remember right it was around $350. at Frys. I have been very happy
with it. But I don't remember the contrast that they claimed. I went back to
the spec sheet and I can't even find it mentioned. My memory is fuzzy
but i think it was 1000. I believe the contrast for CRT's is normally
taken to be around 500 so that might serve as a minimum for
pure text work. I also under stand the contrast number tends not to be
very precise and subject to a lot of hype.
But be sure to check out the sharpness. When I was in the store it
seemed like several monitors were showing text rather poorly. The salesman
claimed it was because they had several running in parallel on a common feed
but salesmen have been known to fudge. I am very happy with the sharpness
of this monitor as most of my usage is text.

Richard
 
On Wed July 25 2007 10:23, Ken Bloom wrote:
 I'm looking at buying a new LCD monitor for my compuer. Looking at the
 various monitors, I noticed a number that they were reporting about
 each monitor: the contrast ratio. How does the contrast ratio affect my
 life as a programmer? Is this something where higher is better in terms
 of eye strain, or is it something that only graphic designers need to
 be concerned about? If I need to be concerned about it, is there a
 minimum that I should be looking for?

 Thanks
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Re: [vox-tech] Alarming spam

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat April 14 2007 06:41, Gandalf  Parker wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Richard Harke wrote:
   I find this rather alarming as I doubt if the sender is a friend.
  I also don't know where they got the info as I never post such info
  in public forums. I'm wondering if my ISP could have suffered a
  breakin as that seems the most likely to tie together all the elements.
 
  Has any one else had this problem or any suggestion?

 See if it can be googled.

 And the computer guru said Google thyself.
 Then he said For to google thyself is to know thyself,
 and to see thyself as others see you.
 Now available as a shirt at
 http://www.cafepress.com/oddthotz.40658864?pid=2837642

 Sorry, Im not playing light on it. This is a shirt I made to make a point.
 Everyone should google themselves. If it can be googled, then you will
 know whats out there and where it came from. Ive been a netcop for as long
 as there has been internet and I think that everyone should google:

 (A) their name. As a full string. On a regular basis I google Anthony A.
 G. Parker and sometimes Gandalf Parker with the quotes. (but Gandalf
 Parker comes up with way too many hits in web and newsgroups. Its a good
 thing Google only goes back a couple of decades)

 (B) their street address, maybe just their street. You might find someone
 talking about you. You might find history on your house. You might find
 something bad is happening on your street. You might discover a friend
 near you.

 (C) your phone number. Is it listed someplace other than white pages or
 yellow pages? Is it connected to your name and info about you?

 (D) your social security number. Some people are nervous about typing info
 like that into any computer. After all, search engines do keep records.
 Its up to you whether you want to do that or not. But its not like you are
 attaching it to anything. And if it shows up, such as some kids cracked
 info page, then you want to know. I wouldnt do this one too often.

 (E) your kids. By ALL means if you have kids old enough to type then
 google your kids. They cant complain that you are snooping if you find
 public info about them. You can setup google to do a regular search on
 things and email you any new results.

 (F) your parents. If they are still living then for the same reason as
 searching on you and your kids. If they arent then it can be interesting.

 By the way, as far as any of that info... you can easily find any of it on
 me (except social security number). Ive got info pages everywhere, and
 resumes, and life stories. Im even in the whois database if anyone still
 knows how to ask for a personal id mine is gp1628


Thanks for the ideas.
I have googled several of these and not found anything bothersome. My street 
name turns out to be pretty well known in some cities so the number of hits
is pretty large. I have tried searching on a piece of my SSN but the number of 
hits is huge.
Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Alarming spam

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat April 14 2007 08:51, Rod Roark wrote:
 On Saturday 14 April 2007 01:22, Richard Harke wrote:
 ...

  I also don't know where they got the info as I never post such info
  in public forums. I'm wondering if my ISP could have suffered a
  breakin as that seems the most likely to tie together all the elements.

 Spammers work from lists, so an explanation such as this one seems
 likely.  It doesn't even require a break-in, just one employee
 deficient in scruples.

This is still my suspicion because the account is in my wife's name.
I've made planty of posts to news groups and mailing lists so
getting my name with my email is no problem. But the ISP is
about the only one I can think of that would turn up my wife's name.
And it would be part of a list which is what a spammer wants.

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Alarming spam

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat April 14 2007 11:50, Shwaine wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Richard Harke wrote:
   I find this rather alarming as I doubt if the sender is a friend.
  I also don't know where they got the info as I never post such info
  in public forums. I'm wondering if my ISP could have suffered a
  breakin as that seems the most likely to tie together all the elements.

 Do you have a listed phone number? Own a home? You already said you've got
 a wife, so that means you have a marriage certificate. There's all sorts
 of info like your address and wife's name available in the good old public
 records. Doesn't cost the spammers much to do a public records query
 (phone records are freely available online and public record searches
 usually have only nominal fees). The dividends they reap by getting your
 attention far outweighs the costs in most cases.


 As for tracking where the email actually came from, the body is worthless.
 Look at the envelope/headers (different terms for the same thing depending
 on which email program you use). That will show you the path the email
 took (which email servers it went through) to get to you. Won't nail down
 the sender, but will at least give you a better starting point that the
 body. Unless the originator is an open relay, then it's rather pointless
 too.

I looked at the headers and didn't learn much. They all came from
different domains, presumably as part of a botnet.

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Alarming spam

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat April 14 2007 11:58, Till Stegers wrote:
 Another way spammers can get this kind of info (name + address) is by
 compromising the machine of somebody that has your info in their address
 book. For instance, if you send you vCard with full address around, a
 lot of people might have this in their address book.

But again, why would they use my wifes name instead of mine?
Richard
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[vox-tech] Alarming spam

2007-04-14 Thread Richard Harke

I have received some spam that I consider alarming in that it contains
parts of my (physical) address as well as my wife's name. That is, one has my
street address followed by my wife's name as the subject. Another has my town
name followed by my wife's name. There is nothing else that I recognize to
suggest I might know the sender. The text of the message is just some
inane lines, both plain text and HTML and a URL at geocities.com
A directory is included (different in the two cases) and is a semi-random
string as if being used as a code. (Maybe to identify which spammers
got a response)
  I find this rather alarming as I doubt if the sender is a friend.
I also don't know where they got the info as I never post such info
in public forums. I'm wondering if my ISP could have suffered a
breakin as that seems the most likely to tie together all the elements.

Has any one else had this problem or any suggestion?

Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] starting xwindows

2007-03-27 Thread Richard Harke

I am one of those who do not like to have xwindow start on boot up. What I
usually do is make sure the default run level is 2 and then make sure
xwindow is not started at run level 2 At one time, it was normal to have
xwindow start at run level 3 and changing the default run level was enough
but more recently it seems that all the run levels above 1 default
to starting X. In /etc are a series of directories named rc0.d to rc6.d
These contain links to start-up and shut down scripts. The scripts themselves
typically live in /etc/init.d For example, if there is a link in rc2.d named 
S99xdm - ../init.d/xdm, the script xdm will be called with the command to 
start -- because of the S as the first letter of the name. the 99 means
this script will be among the last to be called for the run level. If the
name of the link is changed to K01xdm - ../init.d/xdm, the the script
is called with stop as the command. So I change the name of the link in
/etc/rc2.d and change the default run level to 2 I can then login as myself
and do startx or login as root and do init 3 which forces a change to run 
level 3 which will bring up X in the same manner as if booting into it.
Be sure to check for scripts not only for xdm but also for kdm and gdm

Richard harke
 
On Mon March 26 2007 22:06, Gandalf Parker wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Nick Schmalenberger wrote:
  In my experience the neatest way to stop a Debian machine from starting
  X on boot is to remove the package of the display manager. Otherwise,

 I didnt want to remove it since I needed to have some of the graphic
 libraries loaded for some text-mode things I do.

  you could do update-rc.d -f xdm remove or whatever your display
  manager is. That is what would happen if you remove the package, except
  it is still there and you could still do /etc/init.d/xdm start if you
  felt like it.

 OK I tried that:
   /etc/init.d/xdm start

 Not starting X display manager (xdm); it is not the default display
 manager

  When you do startx or log in through the display manager, it should try
  to start your window manager, and (I think, correct me if I am wrong) if
  you don't have one it gives you a fixed size xterm, which you can really
  do a decent amount with.

 I did manage to get that on one of the things I tried. But running the
 command I wanted within that window just seemed to give me the text mode
 results instead of the gui version.

   I seem to remember having problems a few times

  getting icewm to start when I start X and I think adding it to .xinitrc
  was one way to get it to work. The correct debian might have something
  to do with /etc/alternatives.

 Im giving up for tonite. Maybe in the morning I will google a few of these
 things and get some more items to try.

  You could also try purging everything X
  related then reinstalling xbase-clients which will depend on all the
  rest and you might get twm or something too.

 Its not that important. I dont want to mess with the whole system just to
 try out this one thing. If I cant find the starter on the system as it is
 then I will just toss the project.

 Gandalf  Parker
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Re: [vox-tech] [OT] Numerical algorithms in C

2007-02-03 Thread Richard Harke

A resource I would also suggest is a book titled
A Numerical Library in C for Scientists and Engineers
By H. T. Lau. This is from CRC Press. I got a copy several
years ago so I don't know if this is still inprint. It came with a floppy
so there was machine readable source code. A large part of the book
deals with linear algebra and many specialized forms of matrices.
(I was able to use some code from this book to solve 4000x4000
matrices with 31 non-zero diagonals. This solver was the inner
loop in solving some differential equations)
The book itself prvides detailed documentation, no small thing
in this kind of work. And especially when you wish to make modifications.

Richard Harke

On Fri February 2 2007 00:01, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 Is there something equivalent to LAPACK or NAG in C?  Something free (as in
 beer is OK by me).

 I need some high powered stuff like SVD factorization, linear solvers that
 specialize in rank deficient problems, n-th order polynomial least curve
 fitting, rank tolerant matrix equation solvers, etc.

 I know something like NAG (don't want to pay for it) and LAPACK (don't want
 the headache of interfacing with fortran if I don't have to) has them. 
 I've seen something called LAPACK++, which would be my next choice if
 something in C isn't available.

 Can anyone grant me temporary access to a machine with NAG?  That would
 work too.

 Thanks!
 Pete
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Re: [vox-tech] Fujitsu Atheros?

2007-01-26 Thread Richard Harke

On Fri January 26 2007 12:08, Bob Scofield wrote:
 Here are two easy questions:

 1)  Is it true that, all other things being equal, a Linux user would
 prefer an Atheros wireless card because of better driver support?
I sought out an Atheros based card for my HP laptop. (Linksys WPC55AG)
I had to build the driver from source tar-ball, but given that, it was
one of the easiest installs I've done. And I have native 64 bit for
my AMD64 Kubuntu system.

 2)  Does anybody have an opinion on the desirability of having a Fujitsu
 laptop?
My wife has a Fujitsu laptop (Lifebook) that she is happy with. But she runs
that other operating system.

Richard Harke


 Thank you.

 Bob
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Re: [vox-tech] New notebook computer for Linux - AMD or Intel?

2007-01-22 Thread Richard Harke

On Mon January 22 2007 20:00, Jim Lowman wrote:
 I've been looking at a couple of HP notebook computers
 on the HP site after severe customization on my part.

 All else being equal, the AMD version has the top CPU,
 the TL-60, while the Intel version has the T7200.

 The Intel version has the advantage in L2 cache; 4MB
 vs. 1MB.  Also, it is a Core 2 Duo vs. a dual-core CPU.

 Both have approximately the same HD capacity, and both
 are SATA, but the Intel version runs at 7,200 rpm where
 the AMD version runs at 5,400 rpm.

 [Perhaps I've answered my own question at this point?]
Probably. I find the difference between 5400 and 7200RPM
to be pretty noticable. I'll bet the extra cache doesn't hurt
either.
Richard Harke


 Both have 2GB of memory and 17 screens.  No doubt the
 wireless card in either will turn out to be incompatible
 with Linux, but that's the story of my life.

 The Intel version costs about $300 more, which is not a
 deal breaker.

 Thanks for any advice.

 BTW, I'll be dual-booting XP and Linux, but Linux is the
 primary concern.

 Jim

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Re: [vox-tech] strerror deprecated?

2006-12-26 Thread Richard Harke

On Tue December 26 2006 13:46, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

  Richard

 Thanks, Richard!

 For the record, strerror_r() isn't implemented in VC++, but it does appear
 to be a drop in replacement for strerror_s().

 BTW, when you say that all the error messages are a line long, are you
 speaking pragmatically or from a standards view?  I'm really trying to
 write this by the books.
Just pragmatically, I'm afraid. I was going to suggest a short test program
that ran through the error no's but that just covers english, and if you're 
really determined, a small number of other languages. I expect that
most languages will use short standard phrases but I have seen a few
pathological translations (not from the computer field) that were wildly 
different in length. Maybe Bill Kendrick could comment as his Tuxpaint
is supported for a large number of languages.

Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] For C gurus

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Harke

On Thu December 7 2006 08:35, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
 I don't have the latest standard, but this is covered in ANSI X3.159-1989
 Section 4.6.2.1 lines 7-10:

The longjmp function restores the environment saved by the most recent
invocation of the setjmp macro in the same invocation of the program,
 with the corresponding jmp_buf argument.  If there has been no such
 invocation, or if the function containing the invocation of the setjmp
 macro has terminated execution in the interim, the behavior is undefined.
Thanks a lot! This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. I googled 
and checked some of my books but didn't find it.
The background: The latest version of guile crashed while running a test
suite during a debian build on ia64. Since I'm interested in ia64, I took a
look at it. This problem with setjmp is just what is causing their
problem. I didn't want to post my findings back to their mailing list
with out some ammo as to why I couldn't fix it.

Richard Harke

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[vox-tech] For C gurus

2006-12-06 Thread Richard Harke

I have seen something like the following to describe
how setjmp/longjmp is used, though asub is likely
to represent a complicated tree of calls with
a variety of potential failure points, with longjmp
being the quick and easy way out.

int
asub(jmp_buf env)
{
.do something
longjmp(env, 1);
}

int
main()
{
jmp_buf env;
/*init*/
some code
 if (setjmp(env);) {
/* returned from longjmp */
clean up
exit(0);
} else {
/*just returned from setjmp */
asub(env);
may not return
}
}

But suppose this is changed to the following:

int
asub(jmp_buf env)
{
.do something
longjmp(env, 1);
}

int
my_wrapper(jmp_buf env)
{
int x;

if (x = setjmp(env)) {
 return x;
 } else {
return 0;
 }
int
main()
{
jmp_buf env;
/*init*/
some code
 if (my_wrapper(env);) {
/* returned from longjmp */
clean up
exit(0);
} else {
/*just returned from setjmp */
asub(env);
may not return
}
}

Notice that because we returned from my_wrapper before
calling asub, the local variables for asub have been
removed from the stack. Thus they cannot be restored
by the longjmp. It seems to me this usage should
be explicitly rejected. Can any one point me to an
authoratative reference that says this?

Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] Environment variables in make

2006-10-06 Thread Richard Harke

On Thu October 5 2006 20:42, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
 Richard Harke wrote:
  I am trying to modify a makefile to have a few lines
  which are conditional on being on ia64. I found a
  variable in my environment HOSTTYPE=ia64
  that I thought I could use. In the makefile I have
  ifeq ($(HOSTTYPE),ia64) but HOSTTYPE doesn't seem to
  be defined unless I define in the makefile. (which defeats
  the purpose) If I issue the command as
  HOSTTYPE=ia64 make
  that works but again it doesn't really do what I want.
  According the to docs at www.gnu.org/software/make/manual,
  all the environment variables are read in when make starts up
  and are used unless they are overridden in the makefile.
 
  Can anybody clarify this for me?

 When you run make, you are starting a new process.  Environment
 variables are only copied to new processes if they are marked
 for export. So... instead of typing HOSTTYPE=ia54, type
 export HOSTTYPE=ia64, or follow HOSTTYPE=ia64 with
 export HOSTTYPE before running make.

You are quite right. But what I am really looking for is a test
I can put in the makefile that doesn't require exporting
an environment variable. The problem is when an unknown
person downloads the zip file and wants to build it. This is not my project,
I am just porting to ia64. Also doesn't use autoconf/automake
or this wouldn't be a problem.

Hey, I just realized I can use $(shell uname -m)   Hurray!

Richard
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[vox-tech] Environment variables in make

2006-10-05 Thread Richard Harke

I am trying to modify a makefile to have a few lines
which are conditional on being on ia64. I found a
variable in my environment HOSTTYPE=ia64
that I thought I could use. In the makefile I have
ifeq ($(HOSTTYPE),ia64) but HOSTTYPE doesn't seem to
be defined unless I define in the makefile. (which defeats
the purpose) If I issue the command as
HOSTTYPE=ia64 make
that works but again it doesn't really do what I want.
According the to docs at www.gnu.org/software/make/manual,
all the environment variables are read in when make starts up
and are used unless they are overridden in the makefile.

Can anybody clarify this for me?

Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] Special Character Issues in a web page

2006-09-20 Thread Richard Harke

On Wed September 20 2006 10:06, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
 This may be a dumb question, but can the backslash character be used to
 denote special characters on a webpage under some circumstances in addition
 to the ampersand?  I'm asking because as I review some of our old pages,
 some of our Spanish text pages seem to use, say, \351 to refer to the
 accented o character instead of oacute; or even #351.  Strangely, when I
 worked on these pages in a text editor, those characters were rendered as
 strange characters, nothing like what they were supposed to be.

 Anyone have any thoughts?
A \ followed by three octal digits is a very old method of specifying
a character by its code. I used this technique to display accented
hungarian text on a web site recently. What you actually get on the
display will depend on the code set the browser is running but a lot
of the more common characters have the same code across
several code sets. At least this is true for the european languages;
I doubt if it holds for asian languages.
Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] aptitude problems after a couple dist-upgrades

2006-09-20 Thread Richard Harke

You probably have a mismatch between distribution versions.
There are two ways to name debian releases and they move
with respect to each other whenever a new version is released.
i.e., at some point sarge was testing and later it became stable
But the install likely set up your sources.list to point at unstable
rather than explicitly pointing to sarge. So when you did a
apt-get dist-upgrade, you were actually trying to jump a whole
release. This has been known to create the crap you are seeing.
I'm not sure how to fix this except to start over and before you
do the dist-upgrade, be sure your sources.list is pointing
explicitly to sarge. Once you have the latest sarge, you can change
your sources.list and move to etch, if you want to. You could
of course just stay with sarge.
Richard

On Wed September 20 2006 10:40, Dylan Beaudette wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 just installed Debian Sarge from some old install media, and performed a
 dist-upgrade twice to get to the unstable distribution.

 however, i am not able to install a couple of new packages, namely kde:

 #apti   tude install kde

 []

 The following packages are BROKEN:
   kcontrol kdepim-kfile-plugins kpilot

 []

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   kdepim-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpisock8 but it is not installable
   kcontrol: Depends: libraw1394-5 but it is not installable
   kpilot: Depends: libpisock8 but it is not installable
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Keep the following packages at their current version:
 blinken [Not Installed]
 kcontrol [Not Installed]
 kde [Not Installed]
 kde-amusements [Not Installed]
 kde-core [Not Installed]
 kdeaddons [Not Installed]
 kdeadmin [Not Installed]
 kdebase [Not Installed]
 kdeedu [Not Installed]
 kdepim [Not Installed]
 kdepim-kfile-plugins [Not Installed]
 konq-plugins [Not Installed]
 konqueror [Not Installed]
 kpilot [Not Installed]
 lilo-config [Not Installed]


 any ideas on how to fix this?

 also i noticed that this machine calls itself 'debian testing/unstable' --
 what exactly does this mean?

 thanks!
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Re: [vox-tech] grub booting

2006-09-06 Thread Richard Harke

I assume that you ran grub as part of the pephis install.
First, I would note that it should be possible to mount the debian
partition(s) under mephis. This would allow you to copy over
or make back-ups (What a thought!) If debian was installed on a single
partition then when you mount it, you can see all the root stuff, like
/usr/bin and /lib but of course you will still be running the versions
from mephis.
As far as booting -- you need to look at the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
You will need to modify this file to add a stanza for debian. This will be a
bit tricky as you can learn the form of the stanza by the one for mephis
but you will need the exact values to insert. One way is to look at
the menu.lst for debian. This should be at /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst if you
mounted the debian partition at /mnt
Make a backup first as this is easy to screw up.

Richard Harke

On Wed September 6 2006 03:47, Jim wrote:
 I have installed mephis on an empty partition.  All went well but it didn't
 give me an option to boot up into my debian os.  Can I somehow change it so
 I can have a choice and if not is there a way to remove mephis?  I have a
 lot of work into my debian system and would hate to start over if I don't
 have to.  I used grub as a boot loader.

 Jimbo
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Re: [vox-tech] CD Burner Recomendation?

2006-07-22 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat July 22 2006 13:39, Bob Scofield wrote:
 I need a new CD burner.  In the past a lot of folks have recommended
 Plextor for Linux.  That's what I have now.  Do people still think Plextor
 is a good recommendation for a Linux machine?

The last burner I bought was a $40.  unit from Frys that does CD's, DVD's, 
including double desity. I have recorded CD's using cdrecord and DVD's
using growisofs. The documentation with it is essentially non-existant.
I have never had occasion to try double density but I'm happy with the
rest. While it is a no-name knock off, its was hard to resist the
low price. (Well, actually, I think is was labeled Emprex on the box)

Richard harke
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[vox-tech] digitising tape

2006-07-19 Thread Richard Harke

I have some tapes I want to digitise. I did this once before and
it was easy but I have forgotten just what I did and now I can't
seem to get it to work. I have a cassette player connected
to the line in on my sound card and when I play the tape I get
the appropriate sound from my PC's speakers. I have alsamixer
open and did have to bring up the line in volume. I have tried
Krec and arecord. The Vu meter in Krec does not show anything.
Both programs produce files with all zero samples. I don't think
it is a permissions problem, doesn't work for root either. (my user
is a member of audio group)

Any guesses to what my frazzled brain has forgotten?

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Re: [vox-tech] digitising tape

2006-07-19 Thread Richard Harke

On Wed July 19 2006 11:06, Rod Roark wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 July 2006 10:55, Richard Harke wrote:
  I have some tapes I want to digitise. I did this once before and
  it was easy but I have forgotten just what I did and now I can't
  seem to get it to work. I have a cassette player connected
  to the line in on my sound card and when I play the tape I get
  the appropriate sound from my PC's speakers. I have alsamixer
  open and did have to bring up the line in volume. I have tried
  Krec and arecord. The Vu meter in Krec does not show anything.
  Both programs produce files with all zero samples. I don't think
  it is a permissions problem, doesn't work for root either. (my user
  is a member of audio group)

 I did this recently.  Used Audacity.  Run alsamixer and make sure the
 line-in is selected as the capture input -- hit the tab key once or
 twice in alsamixer to see the capture stuff.

Thanks. Getting to the capture display in alsamixer was the key.
My line in didn't show up for capture but I was able to use
analog mixer. I'll give audacity a try. I'll have quite a bit of this stuff
to do, after the cassetes, I have a lot of old LP's

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Re: [vox-tech] making a new pc

2006-07-03 Thread Richard Harke

On Mon July 17 2006 10:53, Jimbo wrote:
 I am compiling a list of items to make a nice computer.  I want to make
 this pc so it can also run linux.  The biggest problem I have faced is
 making hardware work in linux.

 Raid, wireless broadband, dvd  and, most important, high end games is what
 this system is being built for.  Buzzwords like dual core, sli and 8.1 want
 to be implemented.  Amd and nvidia will be focused on.   I have a 3k budget
 so I don't have to scrimp however there is no way that I am going to buy a
 $1000 processor.  The one I want cost $600 which gives some indication of
 the system that I want to build.

 I have suse linux ver. 10 that I have dabbled with.  User friendly for a
 mechanic like me but have seen abundance praise about debian.  Don't want
 to, nor do I have a need to compile kernals and spend hours tweaking an os
 just to make it work.  Will debian do this for me?  Is it packaged like
 suse?
The package systems are rather different. SUSE uses RPM (Redhat Package
Manager) while Debian has its own system based on dpkg and apt-get
I used to run SUSE and then about three years ago I switched to Debian.
One thing I like about Debian is it is oriented to the online world. If you 
have a high speed internet connection, it is very convenient. I always felt 
that SUSE was more oriented to their CD ROM sets. They do provide some
online updates but I could never get any decent download speed off
their servers.
You didn't say if you are considering 64bit or not. (AMD64 or Intel's EMT)
I have AMD64 on my laptop and my impression is that it was a lot more hassle
to install than the x86 version. (Of course you can just stick the 32bit OS
on your 64bit machine.
As far as Nvidia, I have an Nvidia based video card and installing the
Nvidia proprietary drivers was not hard. You will want the proprietary
drivers to get 3D acceleration for games.

Richard Harke

 Don't want to bog this down so I will conclude this now.  Any imput from
 this group is much appreciated.

 Jimbo
 (I'm not a mechanic; just play one in a computer game  :P)
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Re: [vox-tech] GPU calculations

2006-06-13 Thread Richard Harke

On Tue June 13 2006 08:44, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 I recently read some papers where people performed an FFT on Nvidia
 hardware.  The idea is that a GPU is capable of performing certain types of
 operations very quickly, faster than a CPU.

 Has anyone looked into this?  I've seen one project port FFTW to be
 a GPU-enhanced FFTW.

 Any idea on what it would take to write a hello world type program where
 1 + 1 is thrown onto a GPU and the result is returned to a local variable?

Why don't you look at   www.gpgpu.org
GPGPU - General Purpose computing on a GPU

Richard Harke

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Re: [vox-tech] GPU calculations

2006-06-13 Thread Richard Harke

On Tue June 13 2006 10:28, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 On Tue 13 Jun 06, 10:20 AM, Richard Harke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  On Tue June 13 2006 08:44, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
   I recently read some papers where people performed an FFT on Nvidia
   hardware.  The idea is that a GPU is capable of performing certain
   types of operations very quickly, faster than a CPU.
  
   Has anyone looked into this?  I've seen one project port FFTW to be
   a GPU-enhanced FFTW.
  
   Any idea on what it would take to write a hello world type program
   where 1 + 1 is thrown onto a GPU and the result is returned to a local
   variable?
 
  Why don't you look at   www.gpgpu.org
  GPGPU - General Purpose computing on a GPU
 
  Richard Harke

 Thanks, Richard.  Good find!  I think you do numerical computing as well --
 have you done any of this?  I've seen GPU implementations for solving
 sparse and dense linear systems -- which is, essentially, solving partial
 differential equations using implicit discretization methods.  You do this
 in your own work, don't you?

 In my own work with finance, I'd be interested in the FFT, high performance
 sorting and database work (which I just found in that link you mentioned!)
 I've also been thinking of extending my dissertation work, solving the
 Schrodinger-Newton PDE in 2 and 3 dimensions.

 I'm not entirely sure why, but every paper I've read on the subject, so
 far, uses NVidia hardware.  Need to do more reading to find out why...

I did some work on gravitational collapse in spherical symmetry. Needing the
symmetry to keep the computational demands doable. I read about the
GPU stuff a couple of years ago but I have never pursued it.
Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Wireless Networking Confusion

2006-06-13 Thread Richard Harke

On Sun June 11 2006 16:47, Ken Bloom wrote:

 My laptop's configuration is approximately as follows:

 #eth0 is *not* auto, because I don't want it
 #to slow ntpdate during boot when I'm not connected
 iface eth0 inet dhcp

 #Bring up this configuration as #ifup wlan0
 #this is for connecting to networks without WEP
 iface wlan0 inet dhcp
   wireless-essid any
   wireless-key open
 #those are essential to clear the settings from whatever network you may
 #have previously been connected to.

 #bring this up as #ifup wlan0=ling
 #take it down as #ifdown wlan0
 iface ling inet dhcp
   wireless-essid LingCogLab
   wireless-key 0123456789

 #bring this up as #ifup wlan0=home
 iface home inet dhcp
   wireless-essid kenapt
   wireless-key 0123456789

 (etc...)

 And I have sudo configured to allow ifup and ifdown without a password
 And I have a menu in fluxbox for connecting/disconnecting from all of my
 various wireless networks. I'm very particular to use the menu to
 connect/disconnect because I don't want to accidentally shut down eth0
 on my desktop while I'm connected by ssh. I suppose it's also possible
 to use ifrename or udev to rename eth0 on your laptop to something else
 so that it doesn't match your desktops/servers, so you can't take down
 your desktop/server's eth0 by autopilot.

   [submenu] (Internet)
 [exec] (Connect to Ethernet) {xterm -e sudo ifup eth0}
 [exec] (Disconnect from Ethernet) {xterm -e sudo ifdown eth0}
 [nop]
 [submenu] (Connect to Wireless)
   [exec] (Home) {xterm -e sudo ifup wlan0=home}
   [exec] (IIT) {xterm -e sudo ifup wlan0=iit}
   [exec] (LingCog) {xterm -e sudo ifup wlan0=ling}
   [exec] (Sunnyvale) {xterm -e sudo ifup wlan0=svl}
   [exec] (any) {xterm -e sudo ifup wlan0}
 [end]
 [exec] (Disconnect from Wireless) {xterm -e sudo ifdown wlan0}
   [end]

 I haven't figured out how to make wpasupplicant work for me in Debian
 yet.

 I have the resolvconf package installed to manage /etc/resolv.conf

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ apt-cache show resolvconf
 Package: resolvconf
 Priority: optional
 [...]
 Description: nameserver information handler
  Resolvconf is a framework for keeping track of the system's
  information about currently available nameservers. It sets
  itself up as the intermediary between programs that supply
  nameserver information and programs that use nameserver
  information. Examples of programs that supply nameserver
  information are: ifupdown, DHCP clients, the PPP daemon and
  local nameservers. Examples of programs that use this
  information are: DNS caches, resolver libraries and the
  programs that use them.
  .
  This package may require some manual configuration.  Please
  read the README file for detailed instructions.
 (For me, it didn't require any manual configuration)

 --Ken Bloom
Thanks. I changed my interfaces file and this works. From the info
pages I thought I had to have a mapping stanza and I couldn't make that
work.
Richard
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[vox-tech] Emacs on Breezy Badget

2006-06-12 Thread Richard Harke

I have breezy Badger amd64 installed on my laptop. I want to run
emacs but when I run it, it comes up without fonts. That is, there is a series
of open boxes to represent where characters are but only the
large emacs logo is readable. (I trust the logo is not a font)
If I run it from a term window I get two messages
Cannot convert string .. to FontStruct
where the dots represent a rather long string of number, +'s, *'s
and the word courier or helvetica. I suspect that some part of X
may be missing but i can't figure out what. I've done a apt-cache search
on font and installed anything that looked likely but no go.

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Re: [vox-tech] Wireless Networking Confusion

2006-06-11 Thread Richard Harke

On Sun June 11 2006 14:23, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
 Richard Crawford wrote:
  I have two laptops, both running Kubuntu Dapper, both updated.  Both have
  the same brand and model wireless card, which is enabled in both with
  ndiswrapper.  However, for some reason, I can get to computers in my
  local network with one, but not with the other.  The other laptop -- an
  old IBM Thinkpad -- can get to sites outside my home network just fine
  when a network cable is inserted into it.
 
  My wireless configurations appear to be the same for each (with the
  exception of the IP address; both computers have static IP addresses in
  my network). My WAP is not configured to filter according to MAC address.

 Something is different.

  The section of /etc/network/interfaces for each computer is the same:
 
  iface wlan0 inet static
  address 192.168.1.xxx
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  gateway 192.168.1.1
  wireless-essid RLYEH
  wireless-key xx
 
  auto wlan0
 
 
  (For one, the IP address is .115; for the other it is .122)
 
  I can't think of anything I might have missed.

 Well, with all WAPs I have had experience with, they are
 configured as routers with a NAT firewall on the upstream
I have just installed a WAP on my home network and use it with the
existing router. Two advantages (for me)
slightly cheaper than full router
I can turn off WAP without turning off the rest of the network. this is
to improve security.
 side, and you have omitted the upstream network configuration of your
 WAP.  However, in that case you need DIFFERENT network numbers on the
 upstream side (your LAN) and the downstream side (your Wireless network).
 The fact that one laptop works would suggest that you have worked this
 out, but in previous posts you have mentioned using 192.168.1.x for your
 wired LAN so it seems worth bringing up.

 Also, I try to use DHCP and config the WAP to assign specific IP addresses
 by MAC address if I want static setup... this is much more flexible
 for the laptop configuration.

 a) wired network config?
 b) WAP is firewalled or bridging?
 c) what commands did you use to test connectivity, on what computer
 were they invoked, and what were the results?
My laptop is configged to use a wired connection also. I have a jack in the 
dining area in case I work on the dining room table. But I found I had to do
a ifdown eth0 (the wired connection) before eth1 would work. eth0 is
auto but eth1 is not. I also want to use the wireless at hotspots and that 
turned out to be quite a hassle. I have a mapping stanza in the interfaces 
file and that took a while to get working. What works is
LOGICAL=HOME ifup eth1   The environment var LOGICAL is then
used in my script that is called from mapping stanza. There is
another name for a hotspot config. One issue remains.
If I go out to a hotspot, when I come home it does not work cleanly.
I have to manually modify resolvconf as it continues to have the hotspot
DNS enteries.
This is Kubuntu, Breezy Badger
Richard harke
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Re: [vox-tech] C and IEEE-754

2006-06-07 Thread Richard Harke

On Wed June 7 2006 13:30, Micah J. Cowan wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:48:36PM -0500, Ken Bloom wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:41:02PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
   I started to read:
  
  http://www.cs.princeton.edu/introcs/91float/
  
   and came across an interesting comment:
  
  Java uses a subset of the IEEE 754 binary floating point standard
   to represent floating point numbers and define the results of
   arithmetic operations. Most machines conform to this standard, although
   some languages (C, C++) do not guarantee that this is the case.
  
   It's a poorly written paragraph, but seems to say that C and C++ don't
   guarantee adherence to the IEEE 754 standard.  If this really is the
   case, why don't they?
 
  I suppose if your hardware supports something else instead of
  IEEE-754, then a conforming C/C++ implementation can use the hardware,
  rather than having to emulate IEEE-754.

 In fact, IIRC, C predates IEEE('s very existance as an orginazation) by
IEEE is actually quite an old organization around 100 yrs, I believe.
IEEE has sections for power generation and transmission, and many others,
not just computers. 
 quite a bit. But the best format for every machine isn't IEEE-754, IBM
 and Cray have used their own formats for floating point (though, AIUI,
 for the most part they have supported IEEE-754 in addition to their
 own).

 Note that C doesn't even have particular requirements on the radix used
 by the floating point model (i.e., it doesn't have to be 2. Hell, it
 could be 10!).

 However, you can test for the existence of a macro, __STDC_IEC_559__,
 whose existence guarantees conformity to IEC 60559:1989 floating point
 (which is the current designation for ANSI/IEEE 754-1989, which was also
 designated IEC 559:1989 before it went to 60559. If that macro is
 defined, then you are free to assume the usual semantics for floating
 point.

 C++ uses a completely different approach . You use the numeric_limits
 type defined in the limits header:

   if (std::numeric_limitsdouble::is_iec559) {
 ...
   }

 AFAICT, the __STDC_IEC_559__ macro is only available in C99; my draft
 copy of C90 doesn't mention it (but does refer to IEEE 754 in some
 examples).

 However, float.h provides a number of definitions useful in describing
 the floating-point model used, and there are certain guarantees made
 about them (such as a double being convertable to 10 decimal digits and
 back without loss of information).
For a long time, there has been no way in C to control floating pt modes
but I think recently some effort has been made. Rounding modes in
particular can be quite important in some computations.
I think C mostly goes with what is expedient with the hardware in use.
On x86, the hardware float registers are actually 82 bits. This can be
accessed directly with some compilers as long double But, OTOH, if you
specify double it will be expaned to long double when loaded into
a register. Now if it stays in the register through a series of operations,
the result can subtly different than if it was rounded to double after
every intermediate operation.
Look up Fateman at UC Berkeley for extensive discussions.
Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] KDE on Kubuntu

2006-05-30 Thread Richard Harke

On Thu May 25 2006 14:20, Bob Scofield wrote:
 On Thursday 25 May 2006 11:18, Richard Harke wrote:
  Should be a no brainer, right?
  I have an HP ZV6000 laptop with AMD 64 this has ATI 200M
  video chip Couldn't get headers to match pre-built kernel so
  I custom built kernel.
 
 
  Has anyone seen this??

 In the event you don't get an answer here, you're very likely to get one
 here:

 Debian Laptop List debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Thanks. I did go through the archives at Debian.
I finally found it on the 27th page of a google search
I had to change a BIOS option

 Bob
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[vox-tech] KDE on Kubuntu

2006-05-25 Thread Richard Harke

Should be a no brainer, right?
I have an HP ZV6000 laptop with AMD 64 this has ATI 200M
video chip Couldn't get headers to match pre-built kernel so
I custom built kernel. Was able to build fglrx kernel module
and it loads OK. But when I do startx, it hangs.
ctrl, alt, backspace doesn't abort X. I did ssh into box first.
I was able to do ps -A showd startx, xinit and Xorg tasks
running. top showed Xorg using 99%+ of the machine.
I think it is a really tight loop because it starts to get really
hot like it does when you run memtest. I did a kill to the
Xorg tasks and the ssh connection went dead. I had to
force power off. After re-boot I looked at logs but nothing.
Xorg.0.log shows all ok. messages shows some reports
from fglrx but they look routine.
Has anyone seen this??

Richard Harke
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Re: [vox-tech] Building kernel for kubuntu

2006-05-24 Thread Richard Harke

On Tue May 23 2006 11:45, Ken Bloom wrote:
 On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 10:30:09AM -0700, Richard Harke wrote:
  I have a laptop with athlon 64 and I have installed kubuntu amd64
  I built custom kernel at version 2.6.12 source from ubuntu and with
  ubuntu patches.
  I can't get it to boot. It claims /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. But it
  certainly exists for the install kernel. I suspect a problem with the
  initrd because I had that problem on another machine (not amd64, Debian)
  where
  docs said not to use mkinitrd but something newer. In the end I had
  to use mkinitrd, the image made with the newer tool couldn't be
  loaded. The current inird is built with mkinitramfs (Don't remember
  if this was name on the other system) I installed initrd-tools which
  has mkinitrd and tried that. But I don't get a file! Command is:
  mkinitrd -o initrd.img 2.6.12_G1 where 2.6.12_G1 is the version
  of the kernel I built.
  Does anyone know what is going on?
My mistake. I didn't supply the version to mkinitramfs so it
loaded modules for the running kernel, not the kernel I had just built.

 I seem to recall issues with mkinitrd and newer kernels and debian.
 Try yaird (Yet Another mkInitRD).
On my other machine, a couple of months back, that is what I tried to use
because there was documentation stating mkinitrd was obsolete. But
the image built by yaird couldn't be loaded and when I went back to mkinitrd
it worked fine.

 Alternatively, determine what modules the kernel is loading, and then
 compile those into your 2.6.12_G1. (And while you're at it, consider
 updating to 2.6.16)
I'm not sure that will work. I tried it once and it didn't work but I don't 
know if I missed some essential module or if its because it needs the
scripts that are also in initrd. 2.6.12 seemed to be the only kernel
source available from ubuntu, at least for breezy badger.
 --Ken
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[vox-tech] Building kernel for kubuntu

2006-05-23 Thread Richard Harke

I have a laptop with athlon 64 and I have installed kubuntu amd64
I built custom kernel at version 2.6.12 source from ubuntu and with
ubuntu patches.
I can't get it to boot. It claims /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. But it certainly 
exists for the install kernel. I suspect a problem with the initrd because
I had that problem on another machine (not amd64, Debian) where
docs said not to use mkinitrd but something newer. In the end I had
to use mkinitrd, the image made with the newer tool couldn't be
loaded. The current inird is built with mkinitramfs (Don't remember
if this was name on the other system) I installed initrd-tools which
has mkinitrd and tried that. But I don't get a file! Command is:
mkinitrd -o initrd.img 2.6.12_G1 where 2.6.12_G1 is the version
of the kernel I built.
Does anyone know what is going on?

Richard Harke

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Re: [vox-tech] Etch sources.list

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Harke

I think the point is that no matter which level you run, you do
need to be aware of what version you are actually running. I had
my system pointed at testing for some time. Then it became stable.
And testing, which had been sarge was now etch. I started having
strange failures when I tried to update my software. The solution
was to set my sources.list to sarge, do a full upgrade to make sure
I had the released version of sarge, then change to etch and do another
upgrade. The way Debian is suggesting means that when they
make the switch you won't have any weirdness although you'll
be down revision from where you want to be ( something easily
fixed) Either way, you need to be aware of when a new stable
is released.

Richard

On Wed March 29 2006 22:23, Bob Scofield wrote:
 I'm doing some thinking and planning for my upcoming Debian install, and
 came across this from the Debian website:

  The installer will set up /etc/apt/sources.list for the installed system
 using the codename (etch) rather than the suite (testing) of the release
 being installed.

 Doesn't this take the fun out of Debian?  If I understand things correctly,
 this will get the user into a system that will someday be frozen; Debian
 stable.  Why would a desktop user ever want to run stable?

 So here's my plan.  When I download Etch I'm going to copy my present
 sources.list into the download.  It is set up for testing.  It started
 out as Sarge and is now Etch.  Isn't this the smart thing for a desktop
 (non server) user to do?  This gets all the KDE, Open Office, Firebird
 upgrades forever.  I wonder why Debian is channeling people into stable (a
 dead end). Am I missing something?

 Bob
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Re: [vox-tech] windows support, unfortunately

2006-02-06 Thread Richard Harke

On Mon February 6 2006 17:24, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 On Mon 06 Feb 06,  2:11 PM, Jeffrey J. Nonken [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:19:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Jay Salzman) 
  wrote:
 
  I forget if I was able to turn off Adobe's automatic upgrade crap, but
  if not, I manually ignore it when I see it. You've just given me a
  really good reason to continue that policy.

 Normally I ignore them too, but this upgrade specifically said it fixed
 security vulnerabilities.

 Two crosswinds blowing in different directions...   :)
Where did the update originate? I don't mean ultimate origination
but only the script that ran on your machine. Could it have been set up
by your not-so-friendly IT dept.? A few years back I worked at HP
and IT liked to do things like this. Of course, if the script came from
your local IT, it could contain a lot more than just the update for
adobe. Also, just because the knuckle-dragger you talk to
doesn't know that IT did it, doesn't mean they didn't.
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Re: [vox-tech] linear algebra: equivalent matrices

2005-12-08 Thread Richard Harke

On Wed December 7 2005 12:56, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 On Wed 07 Dec 05,  3:05 PM, Aaron A. King [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Not sure if I'm understanding your question aright, Peter, but I think
  you're asking if the equivalence relation (1) is isomorphic to the
  equivalence relation (2).  That is not the case.  If you view a matrix as
  defining a parallelopiped in n-space, then the determinant measures the
  volume thereof. Now it is easy to have two parallelopipeds which are not
  congruent but which have the same volume.
 
  The relation (2) defines a set of equivalence classes which is much finer
  than the set defined by (1).  To put it another way, the determinant is
  only one of many matrix invariants.  The full set of invariants under the
  relation (2) can be summarized in the Jordan form of the matrix.
 
  Apologies for pontificating, especially if I've answered a question you
  never asked.
 
  Cheers (and congrats on the Ph.D.!),
 
  Aaron

 Don't apologize -- this is exactly what I wanted to know!

 OK, so then it's not true that all matrices with the same determinant are
 related by a rotation.  I was going to ask about trace too,

Tr[M_b]

   = Tr[S^{-1} M_a S ]

   = Tr[S] Tr[M_a^{-1}] Tr[S^{-1}]

   = Tr[M_a^{-1}]

   != Tr[M_a]

 but trace isn't invariant under inverse, so the trace relation can't be
 equivalent to relation (2) either.

 Thanks for chiming in!
 Pete

You might want to look at how Clifford algebras express linear algebra.
Normally one works with frame free expressions where invariance
under change of basis is inherent. Both the trace and determinat
are easily expressed this way. Also, one see that there are additional
invariants for a total of n in n dimensional space.
Also, eigen values are handled in a more natural way. One can have,
for example, an eigenbivector which expresses the invariance of a plane
while vectors within the plane are not eigenvectors. For a rotation
in three space the axis is invariant but also the plane of the rotation is
invariant even though no vector in the plane is.

I reccomend Geometric Algebra for Physicists by Chris Doran and
Anthony Lasenby (Cambridge) As the book is fairly expensive I also
mention the web site http://www.mrao.cam.ac.uk/~clifford
There are a large number of papers posted there for free download.

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[vox-tech] Kmail Question

2005-11-13 Thread Richard Harke

Kmail normally expects its mail directory to be the users home
directory/Mail   Is there some way to set to something else?
I want to use it with a jump drive under Knoppix.

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[vox-tech] Laptop woes

2005-11-12 Thread Richard Harke

I have an HP Omnibook 6000 with Debian installed. This was installed from
unstable about two years ago so I believe coresponds to sarge. For a long time
I just used it for email and left it on power and running. Then I shut down 
about 3 months ago and now I'm trying to use it again. The problem is
that I can't login. No, I didn't forget my password; it doesn't let me enter
the password. After I type my login name and press enter, there is
a pause and then it shows Login incorrect It then repeats the Login 
incorrect 4 more times (with pauses) and then says too many tries and goes 
back to the initial login prompt.

If I boot in safe mode (single) I can login as root by just entering
the password and then everything seems to be OK. I did a shutdown and re-boot
and then had a very large number of problems out of fsck, although
the disk was fsck'ed just a few minutes earlier. After doing root in 
maintenance mode and cleaning up the reputed disk problems, a re-boot
led back to the same login problem.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

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Re: [vox-tech] e2fsprogs

2005-09-26 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat September 24 2005 23:54, Troy Arnold wrote:
 Back in February, your friendly neighborhood Debian repository would
 have Testing pointed at Sarge.  In June Sarge became Stable while the
 current Testing points at Etch.  You're basically trying to upgrade to
 a new major release.  I'd suggest changing your /etc/apt/sources.list to
 from Testing to Sarge, and running apt-get update; apt-get upgrade.
 At that point, if you wish to stay at the testing level, switch your
 sources to either Testing or Etch and apt-get update; apt-get
 dist-upgrade.

 Rick Moen's explanation of the Debian release cycle is as good as I've
 seen:
 http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2003-December/008297.html

 -troy

This was very helpful.   did set my sources.list to sarge and then did
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
No complaints about looped depends. It did make an incredible number
of changes. Took about as long as the original full install. But at this point
everything seems to still be running. I might go to testing again but I
think I'll leave that decision for a while.
Richard
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Re: [vox-tech] Mouse trouble

2005-09-25 Thread Richard Harke

On Sun September 25 2005 20:56, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 So I just bought an el-cheapo GE brand optical PS/2 wheely-mouse to
 replace the non-optical PS/2 wheely-mouse that came with my Fry's/Linspire
 computer.

 To my surprise, it doesn't work.  I figured PS/2... it'll just plug in and
 work.  I might need to change X's config from ImPS/2 to PS/2 or something.

 Nope...  this thing's red light turns off the minute anyone (X, gpm, or
 my manually via cat or xxd) talks to the /dev/input/mouse or /dev/psaux
 devices. :^(

 Before I try to return it (stupid thing came in one of those plastic cases
 that you need to take scissors and a flame-thrower to to open it), I
 thought I'd see if anyone out here knew of any tricks to get it to work.

 (Googling, I found someone mention they had to tweak something in their
 bios to get a PS/2 mouse working right.  I see nothing mouse-related in my
 bios, so I'm outta luck there.)

 Thx!
You did reboot didn't you? I've been using USB mouse and keyboard
for some time so I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that
you couldn't unplug a PS/2 mouse without re-booting to get it
going again.
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Re: [vox-tech] e2fsprogs

2005-09-24 Thread Richard Harke

On Fri September 23 2005 19:47, David Hummel wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 07:30:43PM -0700, Richard Harke wrote:
  I thought it might be a good idea to update firefox. So I did:
  apt-get update
  apt-get -s install mozilla-firefox
 
  I get a rather long list of packages to be updated, installed
  and even removed. But also I get the message;
  E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the
  essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is
  often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the
  APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
  E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs
 
  I have done a lot of googling and all the sites I have found agree
  that this can cause bad things to happen But nothing more specific
  or any other way to proceed. My only ext2 file system is /boot so
  maybe my odds are better?? But one site indicated that this message is
  the result of a bug in the dependencies. If that was so, maybe I could
  just wait until it is fixed at Debian.

 Undoubtedly an apt bug, or issue on your system.  The mozilla-firefox
 package doesn't depend on e2fsprogs.  But _do not_ remove e2fsprogs.
 Most likely you're other partitions are ext3, which is just ext2 with a
 journal, in which case you need e2fsprogs.

 -David
Thanks for the input. My other file systems are ext3. I just did an
apt-get install apt which went thru with no problem but I still
can't update firefox. I guess I'll just have to go through the
packages looking for something oddball. (That's assuming there is
something amiss on my system)
Richard
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[vox-tech] Printing PNG's

2005-09-23 Thread Richard Harke

I started to save some documents by scanning them into
my computer and saving them as PNG files. I have been viewing
them with Kview which has worked well until I wanted to print one.
On screen, i can set the scaling to 33% and I get a good size to work with
with just a little bit of scrolling. If I then print, the size goes back
to 100% so that only a small part of the upper left corner
is actually printed. I have tried using the preview print function
and changing the scale there but that doesn't help. The best I got was
with Firefox but then it was scaled down so that a page image was
on about half the page. Everything was there but hard to read.

Has any one dealt with this before?

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[vox-tech] e2fsprogs

2005-09-23 Thread Richard Harke

I thought it might be a good idea to update firefox. So I did:
apt-get update
apt-get -s install mozilla-firefox

I get a rather long list of packages to be updated, installed
and even removed. But also I get the message;
E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the
essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often 
bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak 
option.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs

I have done a lot of googling and all the sites I have found agree
that this can cause bad things to happen But nothing more specific
or any other way to proceed. My only ext2 file system is /boot so maybe
my odds are better?? But one site indicated that this message is the
result of a bug in the dependencies. If that was so, maybe I could just wait 
until it is fixed at Debian.

Does anybody understand this and can guide me?

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Re: [vox-tech] Re: (Redhat) Grub initrd Use?

2005-09-04 Thread Richard Harke

On Sat September 3 2005 20:12, Ken Bloom wrote:
 On 9/3/05, Wayne Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a redhat related problem. Redhat installed
  and works fine. The install process set up grub.
  Now I have built a new kernel from the tar ball and
  need to boot it. I put a new stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst
  with the new kernel name and a new name for the stanza.
  The redhat installed line has
  kernel vmlinuz-2.4.20-6 ro root=LABEL=/1
  so I used
  kernel vmlinuz-2.4.20-rtl3.2-pre2 ro root=LABEL=/1
 
  the boot fails unable to open root
  I've tried using root=(hd1,0) which is my understanding
  of device numbering for grub but it still fails. Same error.
 
  I can't find any explanation of LABEL in menu.lst
  or for the /1 notation.
  Note I did make an initrd iamge with the command
  mkinitrd initrd-2.4.20.rtl3.2-pre2.img 2.4.20-rtl3.2-pre2
 
  2.4.20-rtl3.2-pre2 is the version as it appears in /lib/modules
  and the size of the image file is close to that of the oringinal
  redhat initrd image.
 
  Can anybody clue me as to what I need in grub/menu.lst??

 Here is an example stanza from my kubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst

 title  Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 (recovery mode)
 root  (hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro noapic
 acpi_sleep=s3_bios single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
 savedefault
 boot

 Explanation: the first line is the title in the grub menu. The second
 line tells GRUB (but not the kernel) where it can find the partition
 with your kernel on it. If you don't have a separate /boot partition,
 then your configuration should look like mine. /dev/hda1 corresponds
 to (hd0,0) If you do have a separate /boot partition, then you should
 have the root line correspond to that, and your kernel and initrd
 lines should not contain the /boot.

 on the third line (the one starting kernel) the root= option tells
 your kernel where it can find the / partition. the root=LABEL=/1 is
 just another way of specifying this without having to specify it
 physically, if you take advantage of partition labelling (it seems
 that fedora does by default)

 the initrd line seems to be the magic line that you'e missing from
 your stanza for this kernel.

This problem is now solved. I was helping Wayne get rtlinux
installed. The solution was to use root=/dev/hdb1 in the kernel line in
place of the LABEL construct. Changed this in both stanzas and
in fstab. I don't understand why the LABEL construct worked
for the redhat installed kernel and not for the rtlinux kernel. As I 
understand it, the LABEL construct allows grub to search for the right 
partition which is supposed to make it more robust to hardware
re-configuration. Maybe the rtlinux patches to the kernel broke
something needed for the LABEL construct to work. I definetely
had the initrd line in the stanza.

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[vox-tech] Module build

2005-09-02 Thread Richard Harke

When building a kernel module, one needs to use the same header
files as were used to build the kernel it will be loaded into. But all
I ever file in the .c file is #include llinux/whatever.h Normally this
should refer to /usr/include/linux but this is likely not to be
right for a kernel module. On my system, if I want the current
kernel header, it would be /usr/src/linux/include/linux
Or it could be reached as /lib/modules/version/build/include/linux

Can someone tell me just how the correct version is found
when building kernel modules?

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