Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread Curtis Peter
Thank you all for your responses.
I didn't realise preview had that capacity, for the odd time I require it I 
think that will do me.
Mind you, I'll still look at the other suggestions.
Once again, many thanks
Regards
Peter

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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread cm
Hi David,

In a pinch you could use the signature tool for freehand sketching but it would 
be incredibly cumbersome. The signature tool is designed to add a previously 
recorded line drawing (signature or otherwise) to a PDF. You record the line 
drawing by writing on a sheet of paper and photographing the writing using your 
iSight camera.  Here is a youtube video that does an excellent job of 
explaining the Preview signature tool (with thanks to Reg Whitely who first 
published the link):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlUcXfa8jg

A freehand sketch tool on the other hand allows one to annotate a PDF using a 
mouse or digitizing tablet. You can actually draw cursive lines on the PDF in 
the colour and width of your choosing and save the annotation with the PDF for 
others to read. You could use this feature to sign a PDF if you choose but you 
could also do other things like write mathematical formulae or just scribble. 
:-)

Regards,
Carlo


On 27/06/2012, at 12:41 , David Noel wrote:

> -- Hi Carlo, how does the signature capture mechanism work? Could you
> do a sketch and pretend it's a signature to add it to a PDF?
> 
> david
> 
> =
> 
> On 27 June 2012 12:34, cm  wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> The annotation tools in Preview are tantalisingly close to being useful, but 
>> for some reason Apple has resisted adding the ability to do free hand 
>> sketching on a PDF. For me it was lack of that feature that sent me in 
>> search of another tool. In Apple's defence, they have added a remarkably 
>> well implemented signature capture mechanism.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 27/06/2012, at 12:26 , David Noel wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "to write to/on a
>>> PDF". You can make pretty well any file into a PDF version by going to
>>> Print and then choosing PDF in the bottom left corner. You can write
>>> on an existing PDF file by opening it with Preview, choosing Annotate
>>> in the top menu, and then using the Annotate Tools which appear in the
>>> menu at the bottom. Maybe you want something more complicated than
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> Cheers, David Noel
>>> 2012 Jun 27
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> 
>>> On 27 June 2012 10:13, cm  wrote:
 And if you want yet another option, there is Skim which is free and 
 open-source. Skim has quite a few capabilities as well as PDF markup, but 
 is a bit harder to use than the other tools. Here is an article describing 
 its use:
 
 http://doctoralschool.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/skim-scrivener-research/
 
 Just thought I would give you the option.
 
 Regards,
 Carlo
 
 On 27/06/2012, at 9:42 , Severin Crisp wrote:
 
> I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.
> Severin Crisp
> 
> On 27/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF?
>> Regards
>> Peter
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread David Noel
-- Hi Carlo, how does the signature capture mechanism work? Could you
do a sketch and pretend it's a signature to add it to a PDF?

david

=

On 27 June 2012 12:34, cm  wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> The annotation tools in Preview are tantalisingly close to being useful, but 
> for some reason Apple has resisted adding the ability to do free hand 
> sketching on a PDF. For me it was lack of that feature that sent me in search 
> of another tool. In Apple's defence, they have added a remarkably well 
> implemented signature capture mechanism.
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
> On 27/06/2012, at 12:26 , David Noel wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "to write to/on a
>> PDF". You can make pretty well any file into a PDF version by going to
>> Print and then choosing PDF in the bottom left corner. You can write
>> on an existing PDF file by opening it with Preview, choosing Annotate
>> in the top menu, and then using the Annotate Tools which appear in the
>> menu at the bottom. Maybe you want something more complicated than
>> this?
>>
>> Cheers, David Noel
>> 2012 Jun 27
>>
>> ===
>>
>> On 27 June 2012 10:13, cm  wrote:
>>> And if you want yet another option, there is Skim which is free and 
>>> open-source. Skim has quite a few capabilities as well as PDF markup, but 
>>> is a bit harder to use than the other tools. Here is an article describing 
>>> its use:
>>>
>>> http://doctoralschool.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/skim-scrivener-research/
>>>
>>> Just thought I would give you the option.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> On 27/06/2012, at 9:42 , Severin Crisp wrote:
>>>
 I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.
 Severin Crisp

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> Hi
> Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF?
> Regards
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread cm
Hi Peter,

The annotation tools in Preview are tantalisingly close to being useful, but 
for some reason Apple has resisted adding the ability to do free hand sketching 
on a PDF. For me it was lack of that feature that sent me in search of another 
tool. In Apple's defence, they have added a remarkably well implemented 
signature capture mechanism.

Regards,
Carlo

On 27/06/2012, at 12:26 , David Noel wrote:

> Hi Peter, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "to write to/on a
> PDF". You can make pretty well any file into a PDF version by going to
> Print and then choosing PDF in the bottom left corner. You can write
> on an existing PDF file by opening it with Preview, choosing Annotate
> in the top menu, and then using the Annotate Tools which appear in the
> menu at the bottom. Maybe you want something more complicated than
> this?
> 
> Cheers, David Noel
> 2012 Jun 27
> 
> ===
> 
> On 27 June 2012 10:13, cm  wrote:
>> And if you want yet another option, there is Skim which is free and 
>> open-source. Skim has quite a few capabilities as well as PDF markup, but is 
>> a bit harder to use than the other tools. Here is an article describing its 
>> use:
>> 
>> http://doctoralschool.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/skim-scrivener-research/
>> 
>> Just thought I would give you the option.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 27/06/2012, at 9:42 , Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF?
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread David Noel
Hi Peter, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "to write to/on a
PDF". You can make pretty well any file into a PDF version by going to
Print and then choosing PDF in the bottom left corner. You can write
on an existing PDF file by opening it with Preview, choosing Annotate
in the top menu, and then using the Annotate Tools which appear in the
menu at the bottom. Maybe you want something more complicated than
this?

Cheers, David Noel
2012 Jun 27

===

On 27 June 2012 10:13, cm  wrote:
> And if you want yet another option, there is Skim which is free and 
> open-source. Skim has quite a few capabilities as well as PDF markup, but is 
> a bit harder to use than the other tools. Here is an article describing its 
> use:
>
> http://doctoralschool.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/skim-scrivener-research/
>
> Just thought I would give you the option.
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
> On 27/06/2012, at 9:42 , Severin Crisp wrote:
>
>> I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.
>> Severin Crisp
>>
>> On 27/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF?
>>> Regards
>>> Peter
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Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Rick Armstrong
Hi Clive,
I was going to suggest that first off but I wasn't sure if you had InDesign and 
some of the replies were quite informative. I can't understand why Adobe 
Acrobat can't keep reducing the original pdf, it just seems to do it once and 
then thats it.
Rick.
On 27/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Clive Slater wrote:

> Thanks for the feed back WAMUGERS we ended putting the separate .pds  
> into Indesign Doc and compressed it to a .pdf from there.
> 
> Clive
> On 26/06/2012, at 4:04 PM, Roger Kortas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys
>> 
>> I have just tested a 1mb PDF in preview and it reduced it by two  
>> thirds, so export, format PDF, then use the Quartz filter to reduce  
>> size.  Of course it will depend on the PDF you are using and your  
>> mileage will no doubt be different.  The best option is to go back  
>> to the original and work on it there.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 3:39 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Clive
>>> Just to add to the mix I have used a paid app PDFCompress for  
>>> years and
>>> find it does a very good job. Pick the version for your operating  
>>> system
>>> http://www.metaobject.com/Products/
>>> Merv
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/12 3:19 PM, cm wrote:
 Hi Clive,
 
 Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a  
 PDF, particularly if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid  
 saving from Preview except as a last resort.
 
 Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of  
 the paid apps that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.
 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink
 
 Regards,
 Carlo
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:
 
> Hi Ronnie
> 
> We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it
> doubled the file size??
> 
> Regards
> 
> Clive
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi again Clive,
>> 
>> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce
>> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
>> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly  
>> reduce
>> the size of a PDF file.
>> 
>> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and
>> select Utilities.
>> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>> 
>> 1. Open ColorSync.app
>> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want
>> to shrink and select it.
>> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview
>> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down
>> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
>> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then
>> click "Apply".
>> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a
>> smaller size.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Clive,
>>> 
>>> Just adding to Carlo's comments.
>>> 
>>> Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the
>>> resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the
>>> original with no difference in quality.
>>> 
>>> Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a
>>> Reduce File Size option.
>>> However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality
>>> of images and text in the resulting PDF.
>>> If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression
>>> occurs.
>>> 
>>> How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
>>> The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing
>>> features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview
>>> images, metadata, and the like.
>>> This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe
>>> Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large
>>> because of program-specific components and other non-vital data
>>> these applications save inside each PDF.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Clive,
 
 The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly
 depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a
 large number of images or a few very large images. If you have
 access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the
 images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size
 dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress  
 the
 images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source
 document.
 
 Regards,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
 
> Hi  Carl
> 
> A .pdf
> 
> Clive
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm

Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Clive Slater
Thanks for the feed back WAMUGERS we ended putting the separate .pds  
into Indesign Doc and compressed it to a .pdf from there.

Clive
On 26/06/2012, at 4:04 PM, Roger Kortas wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
> I have just tested a 1mb PDF in preview and it reduced it by two  
> thirds, so export, format PDF, then use the Quartz filter to reduce  
> size.  Of course it will depend on the PDF you are using and your  
> mileage will no doubt be different.  The best option is to go back  
> to the original and work on it there.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 3:39 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
>
>> Hi Clive
>> Just to add to the mix I have used a paid app PDFCompress for  
>> years and
>> find it does a very good job. Pick the version for your operating  
>> system
>> http://www.metaobject.com/Products/
>> Merv
>>
>> On 26/06/12 3:19 PM, cm wrote:
>>> Hi Clive,
>>>
>>> Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a  
>>> PDF, particularly if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid  
>>> saving from Preview except as a last resort.
>>>
>>> Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of  
>>> the paid apps that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.
>>>
>>> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ronnie

 We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it
 doubled the file size??

 Regards

 Clive
 On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi again Clive,
>
> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce
> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly  
> reduce
> the size of a PDF file.
>
> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and
> select Utilities.
> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>
> 1. Open ColorSync.app
> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want
> to shrink and select it.
> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview
> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down
> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then
> click "Apply".
> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a
> smaller size.
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>
>> Hi Clive,
>>
>> Just adding to Carlo's comments.
>>
>> Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the
>> resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the
>> original with no difference in quality.
>>
>> Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a
>> Reduce File Size option.
>> However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality
>> of images and text in the resulting PDF.
>> If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression
>> occurs.
>>
>> How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
>> The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing
>> features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview
>> images, metadata, and the like.
>> This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe
>> Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large
>> because of program-specific components and other non-vital data
>> these applications save inside each PDF.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Clive,
>>>
>>> The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly
>>> depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a
>>> large number of images or a few very large images. If you have
>>> access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the
>>> images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size
>>> dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress  
>>> the
>>> images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source
>>> document.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
>>>
 Hi  Carl

 A .pdf

 Clive
 On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Clive,
>
> Compression works principally by finding patterns of  
> repeated bits
> and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count  
> of how
> many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of  
> spaces
> in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all  
> the same
> colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file  
> you
>>>

Re: moving files to trash

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Burton
Hey Ronni

Thankyou very much. I had completely overlooked Disk Utility. It worked a treat.

Before using diskutility, I delved deeper into the many files and some showed 
they were locked in Get Info and I imagine they might have been part of the 
problem!?

Kind regards and many thanks for your help.

Chris


Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 26/06/2012, at 1:42 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> Are you only deleting some files on the thumb drive or all the files?
> If deleting all the files use Dick Utility to erase the thumb drive.
> 
> If only trying to delete some files on the thumb drive and they are not 
> password protected.
> 
> Have you tried Relaunching Finder?
> Option click & hold on Finder icon in the dock > Relaunch
> Try to delete the files again.
> 
> Or restart your Mac, then try again.
> 
> Remember you have to empty the trash on the Mac before you eject the thumb 
> drive.
> Otherwise every time you connect the thumb drive to a computer the files will 
> show in the trash.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 1:17 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Muggers
>> 
>> I am doing some winter cleaning, going through a number of USB thumb drives, 
>> copying files to the HD then deleting them from the USB to free them up for 
>> work.
>> 
>> However I have one that refuses to have its files moved to the Trash, and 
>> shows an error message: 
>> 
>> "The operation can’t be completed because an unexpected error occurred 
>> (error code -1407)."
>> 
>> I have spent quite a bit of time on google but cant seem to find anything on 
>> this one.
>> 
>> Can someone please help with some advice on what I need to do?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> MBPro i7 OS10.6.8
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread cm
And if you want yet another option, there is Skim which is free and 
open-source. Skim has quite a few capabilities as well as PDF markup, but is a 
bit harder to use than the other tools. Here is an article describing its use:

http://doctoralschool.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/skim-scrivener-research/

Just thought I would give you the option.

Regards,
Carlo

On 27/06/2012, at 9:42 , Severin Crisp wrote:

> I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.  
> Severin Crisp
> 
> On 27/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF? 
>> Regards
>> Peter
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread Severin Crisp
I regularly use PDFpen.  It works just fine for me.  
Severin Crisp

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> Hi
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Re: Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread Bill Parker
I daresay there will be others who suggest cheaper options, but Acrobat 10.1 
does everything for me, even the creation of easily workable Word docs ( even 
with pictures now and then)

Bill
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Writing to PDF

2012-06-26 Thread Curtis Peter
Hi
Can someone recommend a simple program to allow me to write to/on a PDF? 
Regards
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Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 26/06/2012, at 3:39 PM, Merv Bond wrote:

> Hi Clive
> Just to add to the mix I have used a paid app PDFCompress for years and 
> find it does a very good job. Pick the version for your operating system
> http://www.metaobject.com/Products/
> Merv
> 

You got in before me with this one Merv. PDFCompress is worth every penny. It 
performs better compression than Quartz, with a higher quality result. I would 
typically expect a 13Mb PDF to compress to around 3Mb, with little or no 
perceivable difference from the original using this utility.

Highly recommended.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Time Machine/Time Capsule problem

2012-06-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Rosemary,

You had a problem with Time Machine that I sorted for you back in Nov 2011
Read through all the emails at the link below.
I have to go to a client now for a couple of hours, but should be able to 
assist if required later this morning.

time capsule problem can't backup
Rosemary Spark
Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:56:16 -0800



Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 26/06/2012, at 11:37 PM, Rosemary Spark  wrote:

> We have a Time Capsule for our Time Machine backups.
> When my husband went to his computer a few days ago there was a message
> that the time machine couldn't find the disk. This happened all of a sudden
> when it's been backing up fine for years.
> When I try to connect and say Use Backup Disc, it takes forever, and then
> says Connecting ...and doesn't.
> says there's an error with IP address or server.
> I tried using Airport Utility but the new one won't even let you see a
> menu,
> It sees the Time Machine/Time Capsule, asks for a password and just sits
> there with a red 1 alongside, getting configuration forever. It's not the
> password, because when I put in an incorrect one on purpose, it sits there,
> when I put in the correct one it disappears and keeps getting configuration.
> I downloaded the earlier version of the software, 5.6 but  it says it's
> looking for firmware, which it also can't find. If I miss that step, it
> also gets stuck at getting configuration forever.
> 
> I went to look at my computer and found it hasn't backed up for months! My
> computer can't even see the base station in Airport Utility.
> 
> I can enter the Time Capsule files, and it does appear in Shared in Finder.
> 
> I've now tried on mine It has an additional "An unexpected error occurred
> error code -6584", when I tied a Backup Now which just seems to mean
> there's no connection..
> I've tried looking for solutions on discussions etc but there are lots of
> questions, but not many answers.
> 
> We both have a Macbook Pro 13-inch, Mid 2009 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.
> 
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 8 94336609
> Mobile: 0414268043
> arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Time Machine/Time Capsule problem

2012-06-26 Thread Rosemary Spark
We have a Time Capsule for our Time Machine backups.
When my husband went to his computer a few days ago there was a message
that the time machine couldn't find the disk. This happened all of a sudden
when it's been backing up fine for years.
When I try to connect and say Use Backup Disc, it takes forever, and then
says Connecting ...and doesn't.
says there's an error with IP address or server.
I tried using Airport Utility but the new one won't even let you see a
menu,
It sees the Time Machine/Time Capsule, asks for a password and just sits
there with a red 1 alongside, getting configuration forever. It's not the
password, because when I put in an incorrect one on purpose, it sits there,
when I put in the correct one it disappears and keeps getting configuration.
I downloaded the earlier version of the software, 5.6 but  it says it's
looking for firmware, which it also can't find. If I miss that step, it
also gets stuck at getting configuration forever.

I went to look at my computer and found it hasn't backed up for months! My
computer can't even see the base station in Airport Utility.

I can enter the Time Capsule files, and it does appear in Shared in Finder.

I've now tried on mine It has an additional "An unexpected error occurred
error code -6584", when I tied a Backup Now which just seems to mean
there's no connection..
I've tried looking for solutions on discussions etc but there are lots of
questions, but not many answers.

We both have a Macbook Pro 13-inch, Mid 2009 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.


Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 8 94336609
Mobile: 0414268043
arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Announcement] List change-over date this Saturday (June 30)

2012-06-26 Thread cm
Hi Reg,

Yes, the subscription fee for the remaining half-year is $15. The web page will 
soon be updated to reflect this but for now just transfer the $15 to the listed 
account or mail a cheque and you will be signed up as a WAMUG member for the 
rest of the year.

Regards,
Carlo

On 26/06/2012, at 22:23 , Reg Whitely wrote:

> Does that mean half the annual membership fee is $15? I can't find a link for 
> the half fee.
> 
> Reg
> 
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Re: [Announcement] List change-over date this Saturday (June 30)

2012-06-26 Thread Reg Whitely
Does that mean half the annual membership fee is $15? I can't find a link for 
the half fee.

Reg

Reg Whitely

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Re: Apple TV

2012-06-26 Thread Jennifer Lefroy
Hello Carlo, Daniel and Ronni,

Thank you.  I need time to absorb all that information, about the
equipment, the methods of obtaining films, the contract with our server
etc.  Brace yourselves then  for more questions! :-}You are very
generous and I am very grateful to you all.

Regards,
Jennifer

On 26 June 2012 19:09, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> Daniel and Carlo have given you excellent information as always.
>
> Just to add a bit more information for you to absorb ;-)
>
> Buying vs. Renting Movies:
>
> Buying:
> Obviously purchased content does not expire, and once downloaded will
> remain in your iTunes library indefinitely—even if that content has been
> removed from the iTunes Store itself.  Music content can be purchased from
> an iPhone or iPod touch and will automatically transfer back to your main
> iTunes library the next time you sync, and with the Apple TV 2.0, content
> can also be purchased on the Apple TV and transferred back to your main
> iTunes library.
>
> Renting:
> Rentals on the other hand, are much more restricted, since they are
> transitory by their very nature. In much the same way as a DVD rented from
> Blockbuster must eventually be returned, so too must the digital rentals
> from the iTunes Store.
> Of course, since a digital download has no physical media that must be
> returned, the solution is to just automatically expire the digital download
> after the rental period has expired.
>
> You have 30 days from the time of rental to watch your movie, and 24 hours
> (in the US) or 48 hours (elsewhere) after you've started viewing to finish
> it. Once the rental period expires, the movie will disappear from your
> iTunes library.
>
> Once you start watching your movie, you can view the rented movie as many
> times as you wish within the 24-hour (or 48-hour) window.
>
> If you don't watch your rented movie, it will expire in 30 days and
> disappear from your iTunes library. You will need to rent it again in order
> to watch it.
>
> You can delete the movie prior to the expiration date if you want to make
> more space on your hard drive, iPod, iPhone, iPad, or Apple TV.
> However, the movie will automatically disappear from your iTunes library
> 24 (or 48) hours after you've begun viewing it.
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 6:14 PM, cm wrote:
>
> > Hi Jennifer,
> >
> > No problem about posting back, that's what the list if for.
> >
> > I would just add that if you have a slow or an intermittently slow
> internet connection you can always download the purchased or rented movies
> to iTunes on your Mac first. That way they will download in their own time
> regardless of your connection speed. You can then watch the movie on the
> Mac in iTunes or you can stream the movie from your Mac to the AppleTV for
> viewing on your television. If on the other hand your download the movie
> directly to the Apple TV, you can only watch it on the TV. You would need
> to download it again to watch it on the Mac.
> >
> > As Daniel mentioned the Apple TV has an internal buffer so that films
> downloaded directly to the Apple TV will play with fewer breaks.
> >
> > A final note is that if you plan to stream from your computer to the
> Apple TV, you should check that both the computer and the Apple TV have a
> good strong signal from your router. Interference can originate from
> fridges and microwaves, or from your neighbour's WiFi devices. Also large
> metal objects or just distance can attenuate the signal. The free software
> iStumbler will show your signal strength or you can also use Airport
> Utility for this. If there is a problem, repositioning your router,
> sometimes even by a small amount can often fix it.
> >
> > So at the risk of you actually accepting the invitation, post back if
> you want further information.  :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carlo
> >
> > On 26/06/2012, at 17:53 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jennifer
> >>
> >> Just to jump in,...
> >> 1. Yes the AppleTV connects to your modem/router wirelessly. To get the
> most out of streaming anything though, you may want to upgrade the router
> at some stage so it's the faster "n" version. (the DG834G is only "g"
> version. Or add on the new Apple Express for $119 which is dualband g and
> n. This makes a big difference if you do want to stream photos from your
> computer at any stage).
> >> 2. Any movies you get, which only rent from the AppleTV (If you want to
> keep it you buy it from iTunes on a computer, then stream it from the
> computer to the AppleTV). Otherwise ones you rent on the AppleTV will
> download it first (storing it temporarily) then play, so you don't really
> get the stuttering and breaks. (Again, some of this can be caused by the
> modem as mentioned above, as well as slow internet).
> >> 3. For good speeds you want internet at least 1.5MB or better.
> Obviously the faster the internet the less time it takes for it to download
> the movie. The slower the internet, the longer you wait for i

Re: Apple TV

2012-06-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Jennifer,

Daniel and Carlo have given you excellent information as always.

Just to add a bit more information for you to absorb ;-)

Buying vs. Renting Movies:

Buying:
Obviously purchased content does not expire, and once downloaded will remain in 
your iTunes library indefinitely—even if that content has been removed from the 
iTunes Store itself.  Music content can be purchased from an iPhone or iPod 
touch and will automatically transfer back to your main iTunes library the next 
time you sync, and with the Apple TV 2.0, content can also be purchased on the 
Apple TV and transferred back to your main iTunes library.

Renting:
Rentals on the other hand, are much more restricted, since they are transitory 
by their very nature. In much the same way as a DVD rented from Blockbuster 
must eventually be returned, so too must the digital rentals from the iTunes 
Store. 
Of course, since a digital download has no physical media that must be 
returned, the solution is to just automatically expire the digital download 
after the rental period has expired.

You have 30 days from the time of rental to watch your movie, and 24 hours (in 
the US) or 48 hours (elsewhere) after you've started viewing to finish it. Once 
the rental period expires, the movie will disappear from your iTunes library.

Once you start watching your movie, you can view the rented movie as many times 
as you wish within the 24-hour (or 48-hour) window.

If you don't watch your rented movie, it will expire in 30 days and disappear 
from your iTunes library. You will need to rent it again in order to watch it.

You can delete the movie prior to the expiration date if you want to make more 
space on your hard drive, iPod, iPhone, iPad, or Apple TV. 
However, the movie will automatically disappear from your iTunes library 24 (or 
48) hours after you've begun viewing it.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/06/2012, at 6:14 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> No problem about posting back, that's what the list if for.
> 
> I would just add that if you have a slow or an intermittently slow internet 
> connection you can always download the purchased or rented movies to iTunes 
> on your Mac first. That way they will download in their own time regardless 
> of your connection speed. You can then watch the movie on the Mac in iTunes 
> or you can stream the movie from your Mac to the AppleTV for viewing on your 
> television. If on the other hand your download the movie directly to the 
> Apple TV, you can only watch it on the TV. You would need to download it 
> again to watch it on the Mac.
> 
> As Daniel mentioned the Apple TV has an internal buffer so that films 
> downloaded directly to the Apple TV will play with fewer breaks.
> 
> A final note is that if you plan to stream from your computer to the Apple 
> TV, you should check that both the computer and the Apple TV have a good 
> strong signal from your router. Interference can originate from fridges and 
> microwaves, or from your neighbour's WiFi devices. Also large metal objects 
> or just distance can attenuate the signal. The free software iStumbler will 
> show your signal strength or you can also use Airport Utility for this. If 
> there is a problem, repositioning your router, sometimes even by a small 
> amount can often fix it.
> 
> So at the risk of you actually accepting the invitation, post back if you 
> want further information.  :-)
> 
> Regards,
> Carlo
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 17:53 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jennifer
>> 
>> Just to jump in,...
>> 1. Yes the AppleTV connects to your modem/router wirelessly. To get the most 
>> out of streaming anything though, you may want to upgrade the router at some 
>> stage so it's the faster "n" version. (the DG834G is only "g" version. Or 
>> add on the new Apple Express for $119 which is dualband g and n. This makes 
>> a big difference if you do want to stream photos from your computer at any 
>> stage).
>> 2. Any movies you get, which only rent from the AppleTV (If you want to keep 
>> it you buy it from iTunes on a computer, then stream it from the computer to 
>> the AppleTV). Otherwise ones you rent on the AppleTV will download it first 
>> (storing it temporarily) then play, so you don't really get the stuttering 
>> and breaks. (Again, some of this can be caused by the modem as mentioned 
>> above, as well as slow internet).
>> 3. For good speeds you want internet at least 1.5MB or better. Obviously the 
>> faster the internet the less time it takes for it to download the movie. The 
>> slower the internet, the longer you wait for it to download (or buffer) as 
>> much as it can before playing.
>> 4. Download limits just affect how many movies you can download before going 
>> over quota. 
>> 
>> Hope that info helps
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 5:46 PM, Jenn

Re: Apple TV

2012-06-26 Thread cm
Hi Jennifer,

No problem about posting back, that's what the list if for.

I would just add that if you have a slow or an intermittently slow internet 
connection you can always download the purchased or rented movies to iTunes on 
your Mac first. That way they will download in their own time regardless of 
your connection speed. You can then watch the movie on the Mac in iTunes or you 
can stream the movie from your Mac to the AppleTV for viewing on your 
television. If on the other hand your download the movie directly to the Apple 
TV, you can only watch it on the TV. You would need to download it again to 
watch it on the Mac.

As Daniel mentioned the Apple TV has an internal buffer so that films 
downloaded directly to the Apple TV will play with fewer breaks.

A final note is that if you plan to stream from your computer to the Apple TV, 
you should check that both the computer and the Apple TV have a good strong 
signal from your router. Interference can originate from fridges and 
microwaves, or from your neighbour's WiFi devices. Also large metal objects or 
just distance can attenuate the signal. The free software iStumbler will show 
your signal strength or you can also use Airport Utility for this. If there is 
a problem, repositioning your router, sometimes even by a small amount can 
often fix it.

So at the risk of you actually accepting the invitation, post back if you want 
further information.  :-)

Regards,
Carlo

On 26/06/2012, at 17:53 , Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Jennifer
> 
> Just to jump in,...
> 1. Yes the AppleTV connects to your modem/router wirelessly. To get the most 
> out of streaming anything though, you may want to upgrade the router at some 
> stage so it's the faster "n" version. (the DG834G is only "g" version. Or add 
> on the new Apple Express for $119 which is dualband g and n. This makes a big 
> difference if you do want to stream photos from your computer at any stage).
> 2. Any movies you get, which only rent from the AppleTV (If you want to keep 
> it you buy it from iTunes on a computer, then stream it from the computer to 
> the AppleTV). Otherwise ones you rent on the AppleTV will download it first 
> (storing it temporarily) then play, so you don't really get the stuttering 
> and breaks. (Again, some of this can be caused by the modem as mentioned 
> above, as well as slow internet).
> 3. For good speeds you want internet at least 1.5MB or better. Obviously the 
> faster the internet the less time it takes for it to download the movie. The 
> slower the internet, the longer you wait for it to download (or buffer) as 
> much as it can before playing.
> 4. Download limits just affect how many movies you can download before going 
> over quota. 
> 
> Hope that info helps
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 5:46 PM, Jennifer Lefroy wrote:
> 
>> Hello Carlo,  Thank you very much for taking pity and for your information.
>> I am hoping you don't regret inviting me to post back for clarification as
>> I have a number of questions! I should clarify that our main interest is
>> to rent films from itunes.
>> 
>> 1.  does the apple TV connect to the computer via the router unlike Iview
>> through the lap top where there is a TV computer cable connection?
>> 2. Does the film stream to the Apple TV and store to there to be played in
>> its entirety.  (I note in some videos etc there is "stuttering" and breaks.)
>> 3. Do I need to check download speeds and if so what speed do I need?
>> 4. Is there anything other than download total I need to check with our
>> server?
>> 
>> This probably shows the depth of my ignorance.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Jennifer
>> On 26 June 2012 13:54, cm  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>> 
>>> I saw your email looking a bit neglected so I though I would start off the
>>> reply chain even though I am probably not the best person to respond to
>>> this given that I do not own a TV; I will consider buying the Apple branded
>>> television rumoured to be coming out later this year or next year. My sole
>>> viewing is either iTunes content or on ABC television's iView. I do,
>>> however, own an Apple TV which I operate for family members.
>>> 
>>> Apple TV (the ice hockey puck sized device) is a small appliance that
>>> allows one to stream the contents of iTunes to your television or to rent
>>> iTunes content directly on the TV. It should not be confused with a Digital
>>> Video Recorder (DVR) such as TiVo. That is to say the AppleTV does record
>>> television shows that are televised over the air for later viewing. In the
>>> US Apple TV also gives one access to various digital video services such as
>>> Hulu or indeed the football and baseball services. These are subscription
>>> based services where for a monthly fee you can download and watch current
>>> movies or sporting events. The download i

Re: Apple TV

2012-06-26 Thread Daniel Kerr
Hi Jennifer

Just to jump in,...
1. Yes the AppleTV connects to your modem/router wirelessly. To get the most 
out of streaming anything though, you may want to upgrade the router at some 
stage so it's the faster "n" version. (the DG834G is only "g" version. Or add 
on the new Apple Express for $119 which is dualband g and n. This makes a big 
difference if you do want to stream photos from your computer at any stage).
2. Any movies you get, which only rent from the AppleTV (If you want to keep it 
you buy it from iTunes on a computer, then stream it from the computer to the 
AppleTV). Otherwise ones you rent on the AppleTV will download it first 
(storing it temporarily) then play, so you don't really get the stuttering and 
breaks. (Again, some of this can be caused by the modem as mentioned above, as 
well as slow internet).
3. For good speeds you want internet at least 1.5MB or better. Obviously the 
faster the internet the less time it takes for it to download the movie. The 
slower the internet, the longer you wait for it to download (or buffer) as much 
as it can before playing.
4. Download limits just affect how many movies you can download before going 
over quota. 

Hope that info helps

Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


**For everything Apple**

On 26/06/2012, at 5:46 PM, Jennifer Lefroy wrote:

> Hello Carlo,  Thank you very much for taking pity and for your information.
> I am hoping you don't regret inviting me to post back for clarification as
> I have a number of questions! I should clarify that our main interest is
> to rent films from itunes.
> 
> 1.  does the apple TV connect to the computer via the router unlike Iview
> through the lap top where there is a TV computer cable connection?
> 2. Does the film stream to the Apple TV and store to there to be played in
> its entirety.  (I note in some videos etc there is "stuttering" and breaks.)
> 3. Do I need to check download speeds and if so what speed do I need?
> 4. Is there anything other than download total I need to check with our
> server?
> 
> This probably shows the depth of my ignorance.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Jennifer
> On 26 June 2012 13:54, cm  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jennifer,
>> 
>> I saw your email looking a bit neglected so I though I would start off the
>> reply chain even though I am probably not the best person to respond to
>> this given that I do not own a TV; I will consider buying the Apple branded
>> television rumoured to be coming out later this year or next year. My sole
>> viewing is either iTunes content or on ABC television's iView. I do,
>> however, own an Apple TV which I operate for family members.
>> 
>> Apple TV (the ice hockey puck sized device) is a small appliance that
>> allows one to stream the contents of iTunes to your television or to rent
>> iTunes content directly on the TV. It should not be confused with a Digital
>> Video Recorder (DVR) such as TiVo. That is to say the AppleTV does record
>> television shows that are televised over the air for later viewing. In the
>> US Apple TV also gives one access to various digital video services such as
>> Hulu or indeed the football and baseball services. These are subscription
>> based services where for a monthly fee you can download and watch current
>> movies or sporting events. The download is streamed directly to the Apple
>> TV from the internet and is not stored on the Apple TV.
>> 
>> You can also rent or buy movies or TV shows in iTunes on your Mac and
>> stream them to you Apple TV, or alternatively you can rent the movies
>> directly from the television.
>> 
>> If you are interested in time-shifting broadcast television shows, then
>> you must resort to say iView, or look into the Elgato EyeTV which is
>> currently being discussed on another thread and has many entries in the
>> archive.
>> 
>> Please post back if you want clarification on any of this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/06/2012, at 21:21 , Jennifer Lefroy wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello wamug  helpers,
>>> Since the sad demise of the Glyde St video store, we have missed many
>> films
>>> we wanted to see.  I am wondering if our solution is Apple TV.  We have a
>>> Mac OS X 10.6.8 with 4 GB memory running Snow Leopard and a NetGear
>>> wireless router 54mpbs per sec ADSL2 Modem Router DG834G.  We have an HD
>>> television and a DVD player/recorder which allow us to link to a lap top
>>> for iview etc.
>>> 
>>> I am hoping someone can tell me what other information might help to
>>> determine if Apple TV could be our solution and just how the downloading
>>> works e.g. does one wait for the whole film to download and then watch
>>> or...?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Jennifer
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Re: Apple TV

2012-06-26 Thread Jennifer Lefroy
Hello Carlo,  Thank you very much for taking pity and for your information.
 I am hoping you don't regret inviting me to post back for clarification as
I have a number of questions! I should clarify that our main interest is
 to rent films from itunes.

1.  does the apple TV connect to the computer via the router unlike Iview
through the lap top where there is a TV computer cable connection?
2. Does the film stream to the Apple TV and store to there to be played in
its entirety.  (I note in some videos etc there is "stuttering" and breaks.)
3. Do I need to check download speeds and if so what speed do I need?
4. Is there anything other than download total I need to check with our
server?

This probably shows the depth of my ignorance.

Many thanks,
Jennifer
On 26 June 2012 13:54, cm  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> I saw your email looking a bit neglected so I though I would start off the
> reply chain even though I am probably not the best person to respond to
> this given that I do not own a TV; I will consider buying the Apple branded
> television rumoured to be coming out later this year or next year. My sole
> viewing is either iTunes content or on ABC television's iView. I do,
> however, own an Apple TV which I operate for family members.
>
> Apple TV (the ice hockey puck sized device) is a small appliance that
> allows one to stream the contents of iTunes to your television or to rent
> iTunes content directly on the TV. It should not be confused with a Digital
> Video Recorder (DVR) such as TiVo. That is to say the AppleTV does record
> television shows that are televised over the air for later viewing. In the
> US Apple TV also gives one access to various digital video services such as
> Hulu or indeed the football and baseball services. These are subscription
> based services where for a monthly fee you can download and watch current
> movies or sporting events. The download is streamed directly to the Apple
> TV from the internet and is not stored on the Apple TV.
>
> You can also rent or buy movies or TV shows in iTunes on your Mac and
> stream them to you Apple TV, or alternatively you can rent the movies
> directly from the television.
>
> If you are interested in time-shifting broadcast television shows, then
> you must resort to say iView, or look into the Elgato EyeTV which is
> currently being discussed on another thread and has many entries in the
> archive.
>
> Please post back if you want clarification on any of this.
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
>
> On 25/06/2012, at 21:21 , Jennifer Lefroy wrote:
>
> > Hello wamug  helpers,
> > Since the sad demise of the Glyde St video store, we have missed many
> films
> > we wanted to see.  I am wondering if our solution is Apple TV.  We have a
> > Mac OS X 10.6.8 with 4 GB memory running Snow Leopard and a NetGear
> > wireless router 54mpbs per sec ADSL2 Modem Router DG834G.  We have an HD
> > television and a DVD player/recorder which allow us to link to a lap top
> > for iview etc.
> >
> > I am hoping someone can tell me what other information might help to
> > determine if Apple TV could be our solution and just how the downloading
> > works e.g. does one wait for the whole film to download and then watch
> > or...?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Jennifer
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Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Roger Kortas
Hi Guys

I have just tested a 1mb PDF in preview and it reduced it by two thirds, so 
export, format PDF, then use the Quartz filter to reduce size.  Of course it 
will depend on the PDF you are using and your mileage will no doubt be 
different.  The best option is to go back to the original and work on it there.

Roger




On 26/06/2012, at 3:39 PM, Merv Bond wrote:

> Hi Clive
> Just to add to the mix I have used a paid app PDFCompress for years and 
> find it does a very good job. Pick the version for your operating system
> http://www.metaobject.com/Products/
> Merv
> 
> On 26/06/12 3:19 PM, cm wrote:
>> Hi Clive,
>> 
>> Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a PDF, 
>> particularly if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid saving from 
>> Preview except as a last resort.
>> 
>> Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of the paid apps 
>> that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.
>> 
>> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ronnie
>>> 
>>> We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it
>>> doubled the file size??
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Clive
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 Hi again Clive,
 
 I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce
 the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
 I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly reduce
 the size of a PDF file.
 
 "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and
 select Utilities.
 In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
 
 1. Open ColorSync.app
 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want
 to shrink and select it.
 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview
 window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down
 menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then
 click "Apply".
 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a
 smaller size.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> Hi Clive,
> 
> Just adding to Carlo's comments.
> 
> Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the
> resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the
> original with no difference in quality.
> 
> Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a
> Reduce File Size option.
> However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality
> of images and text in the resulting PDF.
> If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression
> occurs.
> 
> How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
> The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing
> features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview
> images, metadata, and the like.
> This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe
> Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large
> because of program-specific components and other non-vital data
> these applications save inside each PDF.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> Hi Clive,
>> 
>> The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly
>> depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a
>> large number of images or a few very large images. If you have
>> access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the
>> images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size
>> dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress the
>> images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source
>> document.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi  Carl
>>> 
>>> A .pdf
>>> 
>>> Clive
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Clive,
 
 Compression works principally by finding patterns of repeated bits
 and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count of how
 many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of spaces
 in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all the same
 colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file you
 are
 trying to compress contains little repetition such as an
 executable
 program file, then you will get very little compression.
 
 What was the file you were trying to compress?
 
 Regards,
 Carlo
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 13:55 , Clive Slater wrote:
 
> Hi
> 
> OSX 10.4.11 g

Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Merv Bond
Hi Clive
Just to add to the mix I have used a paid app PDFCompress for years and 
find it does a very good job. Pick the version for your operating system
http://www.metaobject.com/Products/
Merv

On 26/06/12 3:19 PM, cm wrote:
> Hi Clive,
>
> Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a PDF, 
> particularly if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid saving from 
> Preview except as a last resort.
>
> Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of the paid apps 
> that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.
>
> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:
>
>> Hi Ronnie
>>
>> We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it
>> doubled the file size??
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Clive
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again Clive,
>>>
>>> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce
>>> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
>>> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly reduce
>>> the size of a PDF file.
>>>
>>> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and
>>> select Utilities.
>>> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>>>
>>> 1. Open ColorSync.app
>>> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want
>>> to shrink and select it.
>>> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview
>>> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down
>>> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
>>> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then
>>> click "Apply".
>>> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a
>>> smaller size.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>
 Hi Clive,

 Just adding to Carlo's comments.

 Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the
 resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the
 original with no difference in quality.

 Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a
 Reduce File Size option.
 However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality
 of images and text in the resulting PDF.
 If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression
 occurs.

 How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
 The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing
 features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview
 images, metadata, and the like.
 This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe
 Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large
 because of program-specific components and other non-vital data
 these applications save inside each PDF.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Clive,
>
> The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly
> depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a
> large number of images or a few very large images. If you have
> access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the
> images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size
> dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress the
> images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source
> document.
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
>
>> Hi  Carl
>>
>> A .pdf
>>
>> Clive
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Clive,
>>>
>>> Compression works principally by finding patterns of repeated bits
>>> and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count of how
>>> many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of spaces
>>> in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all the same
>>> colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file you
>>> are
>>> trying to compress contains little repetition such as an
>>> executable
>>> program file, then you will get very little compression.
>>>
>>> What was the file you were trying to compress?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 13:55 , Clive Slater wrote:
>>>
 Hi

 OSX 10.4.11 g4,

 Trying to compress a 37mb file using archive does not compress
 the
 file , turns it into a .zip but the file size is the same
 size. What
 am I missing.

 Regards

 Clive
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Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Daniel Kerr
Just to weigh in.
Did the pdf come from something you'd "made", ie was it a pdf with photos that 
came out of Microsoft Word, or something similar?
Was it made from choosing "Print to PDF" from an Application?
Sometimes you have to go back to the "source" and then work forward to get the 
smaller pdf.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 26/06/2012, at 3:19 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Clive,
> 
> Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a PDF, 
> particularly if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid saving from 
> Preview except as a last resort.
> 
> Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of the paid apps 
> that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.
> 
> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink
> 
> Regards,
> Carlo
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronnie
>> 
>> We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it  
>> doubled the file size??
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Clive
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi again Clive,
>>> 
>>> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce  
>>> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
>>> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly reduce  
>>> the size of a PDF file.
>>> 
>>> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and  
>>> select Utilities.
>>> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>>> 
>>> 1. Open ColorSync.app
>>> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want  
>>> to shrink and select it.
>>> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview  
>>> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down  
>>> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
>>> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then  
>>> click "Apply".
>>> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a  
>>> smaller size.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Clive,
 
 Just adding to Carlo's comments.
 
 Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the  
 resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the  
 original with no difference in quality.
 
 Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a  
 Reduce File Size option.
 However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality  
 of images and text in the resulting PDF.
 If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression  
 occurs.
 
 How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
 The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing  
 features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview  
 images, metadata, and the like.
 This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe  
 Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large  
 because of program-specific components and other non-vital data  
 these applications save inside each PDF.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
 
> Hi Clive,
> 
> The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly  
> depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a  
> large number of images or a few very large images. If you have  
> access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the  
> images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size  
> dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress the  
> images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source  
> document.
> 
> Regards,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
> 
>> Hi  Carl
>> 
>> A .pdf
>> 
>> Clive
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Clive,
>>> 
>>> Compression works principally by finding patterns of repeated bits
>>> and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count of how
>>> many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of spaces
>>> in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all the same
>>> colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file you  
>>> are
>>> trying to compress contains little repetition such as an  
>>> executable
>>> program file, then you will get very little compression.
>>> 
>>> What was the file you were trying to compress?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 13:55 , Clive Slater wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 OSX 10.4.11 g4,
 
 Trying to compress a 37mb file using archive does not compress  
 the
 file , turns it into a .zip but the file size is the same  
>>

Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread cm
Hi Clive,

Yes I find that Preview App will often increase the size of a PDF, particularly 
if you do some editing or highlighting. I avoid saving from Preview except as a 
last resort.

Depending how important this problem is to you, here is one of the paid apps 
that I mentioned that will compress the PDF for you.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9206/pdf-shrink

Regards,
Carlo

On 26/06/2012, at 15:08 , Clive Slater wrote:

> Hi Ronnie
> 
> We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it  
> doubled the file size??
> 
> Regards
> 
> Clive
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi again Clive,
>> 
>> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce  
>> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
>> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly reduce  
>> the size of a PDF file.
>> 
>> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and  
>> select Utilities.
>> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>> 
>> 1. Open ColorSync.app
>> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want  
>> to shrink and select it.
>> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview  
>> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down  
>> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
>> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then  
>> click "Apply".
>> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a  
>> smaller size.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Clive,
>>> 
>>> Just adding to Carlo's comments.
>>> 
>>> Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the  
>>> resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the  
>>> original with no difference in quality.
>>> 
>>> Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a  
>>> Reduce File Size option.
>>> However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality  
>>> of images and text in the resulting PDF.
>>> If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression  
>>> occurs.
>>> 
>>> How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
>>> The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing  
>>> features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview  
>>> images, metadata, and the like.
>>> This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe  
>>> Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large  
>>> because of program-specific components and other non-vital data  
>>> these applications save inside each PDF.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Clive,
 
 The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly  
 depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a  
 large number of images or a few very large images. If you have  
 access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the  
 images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size  
 dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress the  
 images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source  
 document.
 
 Regards,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
 
> Hi  Carl
> 
> A .pdf
> 
> Clive
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> Hi Clive,
>> 
>> Compression works principally by finding patterns of repeated bits
>> and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count of how
>> many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of spaces
>> in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all the same
>> colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file you  
>> are
>> trying to compress contains little repetition such as an  
>> executable
>> program file, then you will get very little compression.
>> 
>> What was the file you were trying to compress?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 26/06/2012, at 13:55 , Clive Slater wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> OSX 10.4.11 g4,
>>> 
>>> Trying to compress a 37mb file using archive does not compress  
>>> the
>>> file , turns it into a .zip but the file size is the same  
>>> size. What
>>> am I missing.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Clive
>> 
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Re: File Compression

2012-06-26 Thread Clive Slater
Hi Ronnie

We will try ColorSync, we did as suggested using Preview but it  
doubled the file size??

Regards

Clive
On 26/06/2012, at 2:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi again Clive,
>
> I forgot about using ColorSync Utility. If Preview does not reduce  
> the PDF enough try ColorSync Utility.
> I remember using it a long time ago and it did significantly reduce  
> the size of a PDF file.
>
> "ColorSync Utility.app" From finder select the "Go" menu, and  
> select Utilities.
> In this folder you will find the ColorSync application.
>
> 1. Open ColorSync.app
> 2. Go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want  
> to shrink and select it.
> 3. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview  
> window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down  
> menu with "Filter" by the side of it.
> 4. Use the drop down menu to select "Reduce File Size", and then  
> click "Apply".
> 5. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a  
> smaller size.
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>
>> Hi Clive,
>>
>> Just adding to Carlo's comments.
>>
>> Open the PDF in Preview and then save it (as a PDF) again; the  
>> resulting file will usually be significantly smaller than the  
>> original with no difference in quality.
>>
>> Preview Save dialog includes, in the Quartz Filter pop-up menu, a  
>> Reduce File Size option.
>> However, this option uses compression, so it reduces the quality  
>> of images and text in the resulting PDF.
>> If you simply re-save a PDF, without this option, no compression  
>> occurs.
>>
>> How does this work if Preview isn’t actually compressing images?
>> The program is simply using OS X’s built-in PDF-processing  
>> features to strip PDF files of all the unnecessary bits: preview  
>> images, metadata, and the like.
>> This feature is especially useful for PDFs created in Adobe  
>> Illustrator and InDesign, which tend to be unnecessarily large  
>> because of program-specific components and other non-vital data  
>> these applications save inside each PDF.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> On 26/06/2012, at 2:12 PM, cm wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Clive,
>>>
>>> The effectiveness of compression of a PDF will vary wildly  
>>> depending on the content. Large PDF files normally contain a  
>>> large number of images or a few very large images. If you have  
>>> access to the source of the PDF you can choose to compress the  
>>> images at a lower resolution and thus cut down on the size  
>>> dramatically. You can also purchase tools which will compress the  
>>> images in a PDF even if you do not have the original source  
>>> document.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2012, at 14:05 , Clive Slater wrote:
>>>
 Hi  Carl

 A .pdf

 Clive
 On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Clive,
>
> Compression works principally by finding patterns of repeated bits
> and replacing them with an copy of the pattern and a count of how
> many times the pattern is repeated. So a file with a lot of spaces
> in it, or an mp4 video with large areas of the screen all the same
> colour will compress down very nicely. However, if the file you  
> are
> trying to compress contains little repetition such as an  
> executable
> program file, then you will get very little compression.
>
> What was the file you were trying to compress?
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
> On 26/06/2012, at 13:55 , Clive Slater wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> OSX 10.4.11 g4,
>>
>> Trying to compress a 37mb file using archive does not compress  
>> the
>> file , turns it into a .zip but the file size is the same  
>> size. What
>> am I missing.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Clive
>
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