[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread mdipierro
I just tried this. I have to say vps.net is much easier to use than
amazon. They seem to be a little sloppy on security (amazon gave me no
pem file, vps emailed back to the very same password I used to
register). Here it is for a test:

http://68.169.39.35/book

Hos fast/slow is it?

Massimo


On Feb 13, 6:26 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Massimo,
 When I tried EC2 it was very time-consuming and the backups were
 difficult and I was just wasting time.

 In the end I saved my sanity with vps.net which (for $20 per month)
 takes your Ubuntu script about 5 mins to set up. There's a really good
 backup service available by ticking a box for $5 per month extra.  IMO
 it's a no-brainer.  And, as there's 256MB you'll be able to run 6
 instances of Web2py (if the 40Mb in the other thread is right)!

 I'm sure other vps providers are also excellent,  I just chose that
 one because they offer Europe as well as US and it's a good service.
 Give yourself a break and leave the EC2 infrastructure for the global
 mega-corporations!

 --David

 On Feb 12, 4:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

  I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
  have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
  backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
  in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

  On Feb 12, 10:42 am,villasvilla...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

hmmm that costs more money.

   Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
   that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
   global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
   some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
I would say a negligible difference.

How does vps.net compare to slicehost.com ?

-Thadeus





On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I just tried this. I have to say vps.net is much easier to use than
 amazon. They seem to be a little sloppy on security (amazon gave me no
 pem file, vps emailed back to the very same password I used to
 register). Here it is for a test:

 http://68.169.39.35/book

 Hos fast/slow is it?

 Massimo


 On Feb 13, 6:26 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Massimo,
 When I tried EC2 it was very time-consuming and the backups were
 difficult and I was just wasting time.

 In the end I saved my sanity with vps.net which (for $20 per month)
 takes your Ubuntu script about 5 mins to set up. There's a really good
 backup service available by ticking a box for $5 per month extra.  IMO
 it's a no-brainer.  And, as there's 256MB you'll be able to run 6
 instances of Web2py (if the 40Mb in the other thread is right)!

 I'm sure other vps providers are also excellent,  I just chose that
 one because they offer Europe as well as US and it's a good service.
 Give yourself a break and leave the EC2 infrastructure for the global
 mega-corporations!

 --David

 On Feb 12, 4:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

  I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
  have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
  backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
  in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

  On Feb 12, 10:42 am,villasvilla...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

hmmm that costs more money.

   Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
   that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
   global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
   some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread mdipierro
I have not tried slicehost. memorywise it is on the low side but the
management interface is very intuitive. You can scale up the number of
server by moving a slider. You have to setup your own load balancer
but they have an howto. The vps are preconfigured to share a folder
(so I am told, did not check), and perform regular backups (daily,
weekly, monthly).

So far the easiest thing I ever had to setup. It was literally as easy
as click a few buttons, wget setup-web2py-ubuntu.sh and run it.



On Feb 15, 9:26 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
 I would say a negligible difference.

 How does vps.net compare to slicehost.com ?

 -Thadeus

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
  I just tried this. I have to say vps.net is much easier to use than
  amazon. They seem to be a little sloppy on security (amazon gave me no
  pem file, vps emailed back to the very same password I used to
  register). Here it is for a test:

 http://68.169.39.35/book

  Hos fast/slow is it?

  Massimo

  On Feb 13, 6:26 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Massimo,
  When I tried EC2 it was very time-consuming and the backups were
  difficult and I was just wasting time.

  In the end I saved my sanity with vps.net which (for $20 per month)
  takes your Ubuntu script about 5 mins to set up. There's a really good
  backup service available by ticking a box for $5 per month extra.  IMO
  it's a no-brainer.  And, as there's 256MB you'll be able to run 6
  instances of Web2py (if the 40Mb in the other thread is right)!

  I'm sure other vps providers are also excellent,  I just chose that
  one because they offer Europe as well as US and it's a good service.
  Give yourself a break and leave the EC2 infrastructure for the global
  mega-corporations!

  --David

  On Feb 12, 4:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

   I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
   have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
   backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
   in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

   On Feb 12, 10:42 am,villasvilla...@gmail.com wrote:

On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

 hmmm that costs more money.

Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread villas
I also find your test site to be very responsive from here in Europe.

memorywise it is on the low side

Low side?  I think you need to have another chat with John Heenan,
I'll bet he's working off a floppy disk right now!  (Only kidding
John).  Anyhow each host (or instance) you set up has it *own*
slider,  you just increment it up or down in 256MB steps.  Big spike
expected on a new wiki page?  Just move the slider up and you're set!

After my own experience wrestling with EC2,  the backup 'checkbox' in
particular blew me away.

BTW speaking of speed,  that 'addtoany' widget was *really* slow the
other day.  I checked it in firebug and it took about 15s to initially
load.  It may give a bad first impression for a newcomer who blames
the delay on Web2py.  Maybe addtoany were just having a bad day...

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread mdipierro
There are some vps services that offer 350MB ram and 20GB for the same
price. Nevertheless vps.net interface is hard to beat and so far they
have been very prompt in responding to may emails. I am making a
web2py-ready instance so that people can just pay - click and access
everything (including configuraton, monitoring, etc.) from a custom
web2py app... start making your wishlist!

Massimo

On Feb 15, 3:21 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I also find your test site to be very responsive from here in Europe.

 memorywise it is on the low side

 Low side?  I think you need to have another chat with John Heenan,
 I'll bet he's working off a floppy disk right now!  (Only kidding
 John).  Anyhow each host (or instance) you set up has it *own*
 slider,  you just increment it up or down in 256MB steps.  Big spike
 expected on a new wiki page?  Just move the slider up and you're set!

 After my own experience wrestling with EC2,  the backup 'checkbox' in
 particular blew me away.

 BTW speaking of speed,  that 'addtoany' widget was *really* slow the
 other day.  I checked it in firebug and it took about 15s to initially
 load.  It may give a bad first impression for a newcomer who blames
 the delay on Web2py.  Maybe addtoany were just having a bad day...

 --Regards, David

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-15 Thread villas
On Feb 15, 11:41 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 There are some vps services that offer 350MB ram and 20GB for the same
 price.

I'm sure you are right.  I found a $3 host the other day!  Anyhow,
those on a really tight budget will work a little harder to shoehorn
their app into GAE.

Wishlist:
The first script was really helpful.  However, perhaps you would like
to offer a couple of DB options?  If so,  I can help you setting up
Firebird 2.1 with the right version of kinterbasdb etc (for Ubuntu
8.04).  Which is actually a bigger challenge than anyone might imagine
(for me at least).

It would also be good if you could allow the option to set up web2py
in a subdir (as per the recent slice).  I'm sure a lot of people (esp.
newcomers) would like to accommodate web2py alongside something else,
if only during a transitional stage.  Therefore some assistance with
the apache set up would really help people in the right direction.
After all there are so many ready-made servers out there for LAMP,
people just expect to click a couple of times and shout eureka these
days.

I am not a very good linux admin,  so I always end up beating my head
against the wall for hours (if not days) getting my ssh, proFtp,
rsync, php (yes, still need that) etc,  to work;  but I guess that's
too individual to include?  However,  it really could eventually be
included.  I've seen those 'perfect server' scripts and they are often
very comprehensive.  That's got to be the right direction.

I think you're really onto something with the easy set-up script
coupled with a good webhost.  That together with the online book etc
will popularise the framework no end!

Regards,
--David

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-14 Thread mdipierro
I wanted to experience with EC2 anyway. I agree for my needs it may
very well be overkill. Thanks for the pointer.

On Feb 13, 6:26 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Massimo,
 When I tried EC2 it was very time-consuming and the backups were
 difficult and I was just wasting time.

 In the end I saved my sanity with vps.net which (for $20 per month)
 takes your Ubuntu script about 5 mins to set up. There's a really good
 backup service available by ticking a box for $5 per month extra.  IMO
 it's a no-brainer.  And, as there's 256MB you'll be able to run 6
 instances of Web2py (if the 40Mb in the other thread is right)!

 I'm sure other vps providers are also excellent,  I just chose that
 one because they offer Europe as well as US and it's a good service.
 Give yourself a break and leave the EC2 infrastructure for the global
 mega-corporations!

 --David

 On Feb 12, 4:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

  I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
  have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
  backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
  in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

  On Feb 12, 10:42 am,villasvilla...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

hmmm that costs more money.

   Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
   that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
   global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
   some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-13 Thread villas
Massimo,
When I tried EC2 it was very time-consuming and the backups were
difficult and I was just wasting time.

In the end I saved my sanity with vps.net which (for $20 per month)
takes your Ubuntu script about 5 mins to set up. There's a really good
backup service available by ticking a box for $5 per month extra.  IMO
it's a no-brainer.  And, as there's 256MB you'll be able to run 6
instances of Web2py (if the 40Mb in the other thread is right)!

I'm sure other vps providers are also excellent,  I just chose that
one because they offer Europe as well as US and it's a good service.
Give yourself a break and leave the EC2 infrastructure for the global
mega-corporations!

--David


On Feb 12, 4:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
 have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
 backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
 in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

 On Feb 12, 10:42 am,villasvilla...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

   hmmm that costs more money.

  Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
  that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
  global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
  some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D



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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread selecta
http://www.web2py.com/ down
http://204.236.202.204/ up

On Feb 12, 2:21 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:20 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  It has moved. It is not here:

 http://204.236.202.204/

  My DNS has not refreshed in 2hrs. I tried

  sudo dscacheutil -flushcache

  I rebooted. Tried two browser. Still web2py.com does not map into the
  above address.

 It's more likely your local DNS server, not your local cache.





  On Feb 11, 7:07 pm, minh mdn0...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)

  On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:

  On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  yes that works.

  Any EC2 expert around here?

  DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.

  On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
  On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

  Try 72.44.59.140

  On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes, loaded fine just now.

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  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
  wrote:
  I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
  last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
  I am trying move the server to amazon.

  Can you reach web2py.com?

  Massimo

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread Nicolás de la Torre
I cant reach web2py.com but www.web2py.com is working.

$ host web2py.com
web2py.com has address 140.192.37.194

$ host www.web2py.com
www.web2py.com has address 204.236.202.204

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread stefaan
Here only web2py.com works

$ host www.web2py.com
www.web2py.com has address 140.192.37.194

$ host web2py.com
web2py.com has address 204.236.202.204


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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread mdipierro
The DNS has not refreshed. It will take some time. Does anybody know
how to setup DNS on EC2. If I stop and restart the VM I get another IP
and it takes long time for the DNS to propagate the change (which I
must do manually) and meanwhile the server is unreachable. Clearly
there must be a solution but I have not found it.

Massimo

On Feb 12, 7:59 am, stefaan stefaan.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here only web2py.com works

 $ hostwww.web2py.comwww.web2py.comhas address 140.192.37.194

 $ host web2py.com
 web2py.com has address 204.236.202.204

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:48 AM, mdipierro wrote:

 The DNS has not refreshed. It will take some time. Does anybody know
 how to setup DNS on EC2. If I stop and restart the VM I get another IP
 and it takes long time for the DNS to propagate the change (which I
 must do manually) and meanwhile the server is unreachable. Clearly
 there must be a solution but I have not found it.

I think you want an Elastic IP address, in Amazon-speak.

 
 Massimo
 
 On Feb 12, 7:59 am, stefaan stefaan.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here only web2py.com works
 
 $ hostwww.web2py.comwww.web2py.comhas address 140.192.37.194
 
 $ host web2py.com
 web2py.com has address 204.236.202.204
 
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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread mdipierro
hmmm that costs more money.

On Feb 12, 9:43 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:48 AM, mdipierro wrote:

  The DNS has not refreshed. It will take some time. Does anybody know
  how to setup DNS on EC2. If I stop and restart the VM I get another IP
  and it takes long time for the DNS to propagate the change (which I
  must do manually) and meanwhile the server is unreachable. Clearly
  there must be a solution but I have not found it.

 I think you want an Elastic IP address, in Amazon-speak.



  Massimo

  On Feb 12, 7:59 am, stefaan stefaan.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here only web2py.com works

  $ hostwww.web2py.comwww.web2py.comhasaddress 140.192.37.194

  $ host web2py.com
  web2py.com has address 204.236.202.204

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread tyoc 213
Havent read the whole tread... but if you are talking only about dynamic dns
I think http://freedns.afraid.org/ is free and OK service... at less for
something basic it should work the basic free plan (even some mail setup I
think)...

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread Álvaro Justen [Turicas]
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 23:20, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 It has moved. It is not here:

 http://204.236.202.204/

 My DNS has not refreshed in 2hrs. I tried

 sudo dscacheutil -flushcache

 I rebooted. Tried two browser. Still web2py.com does not map into the
 above address.

See:
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=web2py.comtype=domain
Actually name servers are NS3.GKG.NET and NS4.GKG.NET.
Are these OK? You should change them at your domain registrar to IP
address that you want to run DNS server.
I have two IPs and DNS running on both - if do you want I can add
web2py.com to my zone.


 On Feb 11, 7:07 pm, minh mdn0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)

 On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:

  On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

   yes that works.

   Any EC2 expert around here?

  DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.

   On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
   On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

   Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

   Try 72.44.59.140

   On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes, loaded fine just now.

   --

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   wrote:
   I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
   last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
   I am trying move the server to amazon.

   Can you reach web2py.com?

   Massimo



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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread villas
On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 hmmm that costs more money.

Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread mdipierro
I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

On Feb 12, 10:42 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

  hmmm that costs more money.

 Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
 that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
 global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Just keep in mind, if you have an EC2 server, if it goes down ever for
ANY reason you lose ALL of the data on the server.

Do not rely on Amazon to be a permanent will-be-there-always solution
for the data

-Thadeus





On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
 have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
 backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
 in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

 On Feb 12, 10:42 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

  hmmm that costs more money.

 Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
 that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
 global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
 some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread mdipierro
I have an instance with root mounted on EBS storage and if take
snapshots of the latter. If I understand how this works the root
filesystem should be backed up in the snapshots. What puzzle me if
that I cannot find a way to restore the snapshots and any test
involing taking up/down the instance are incredidibly show compared
with my other vmware machine.

On Feb 12, 12:32 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
 Just keep in mind, if you have an EC2 server, if it goes down ever for
 ANY reason you lose ALL of the data on the server.

 Do not rely on Amazon to be a permanent will-be-there-always solution
 for the data

 -Thadeus

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
  I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
  have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
  backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
  in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

  On Feb 12, 10:42 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

   hmmm that costs more money.

  Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
  that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
  global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
  some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread szimszon
Sometimes there is a 1day delay in recursive dns servers to refresh
entries...

On febr. 12, 17:36, Álvaro Justen [Turicas] alvarojus...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 23:20, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
  It has moved. It is not here:

 http://204.236.202.204/

  My DNS has not refreshed in 2hrs. I tried

  sudo dscacheutil -flushcache

  I rebooted. Tried two browser. Still web2py.com does not map into the
  above address.

 See:http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=web2py.comtype=domain
 Actually name servers are NS3.GKG.NET and NS4.GKG.NET.
 Are these OK? You should change them at your domain registrar to IP
 address that you want to run DNS server.
 I have two IPs and DNS running on both - if do you want I can add
 web2py.com to my zone.





  On Feb 11, 7:07 pm, minh mdn0...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)

  On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:

   On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

yes that works.

Any EC2 expert around here?

   DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.

On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

Try 72.44.59.140

On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, loaded fine just now.

--

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mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
I am trying move the server to amazon.

Can you reach web2py.com?

Massimo

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread AchipA
That is not correct. EBS provides permanent storage, but even without
that, you have instance level consistency, so if you reboot your
instance, your stuff will still be there.

You also have monitoring features that make it easy to bring back a
service on an another instance. AWS is not built to avoid failures,
it's built to be able to deal with them.

On Feb 12, 7:32 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
 Just keep in mind, if you have an EC2 server, if it goes down ever for
 ANY reason you lose ALL of the data on the server.

 Do not rely on Amazon to be a permanent will-be-there-always solution
 for the data

 -Thadeus

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
  I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
  have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
  backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
  in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

  On Feb 12, 10:42 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

   hmmm that costs more money.

  Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
  that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
  global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
  some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-12 Thread AchipA
When you are creating an EBS volume you can choose a snapshot to
prepopulate it with.

On Feb 12, 8:32 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I have an instance with root mounted on EBS storage and if take
 snapshots of the latter. If I understand how this works the root
 filesystem should be backed up in the snapshots. What puzzle me if
 that I cannot find a way to restore the snapshots and any test
 involing taking up/down the instance are incredidibly show compared
 with my other vmware machine.

 On Feb 12, 12:32 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:

  Just keep in mind, if you have an EC2 server, if it goes down ever for
  ANY reason you lose ALL of the data on the server.

  Do not rely on Amazon to be a permanent will-be-there-always solution
  for the data

  -Thadeus

  On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
   I am not suing any of the advanced features like load balancing. I
   have an Instance with EBS storage. I do not completely understand the
   backup process. I hope that making a snapshot of the storage results
   in data backup. Not clear to me how to recover from one the snapshots.

   On Feb 12, 10:42 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Feb 12, 4:01 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

hmmm that costs more money.

   Well,  people moving to Amazon aren't going there to save any money,
   that's for sure.  The main thing you are paying for is the massive
   global up-scaling you can instantly turn on.  Must have geared up for
   some big spikes on accessing that lovely new online book  :-)  D

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread mdipierro
Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, loaded fine just now.

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 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
  I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
  last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
  I am trying move the server to amazon.

  Can you reach web2py.com?

  Massimo

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread villas
Currently loads quickly (from Portugal).
Seems much more responsive on Amazon.  Nice  :)

On Feb 11, 10:43 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
 last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
 I am trying move the server to amazon.

 Can you reach web2py.com?

 Massimo

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

 Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

Try 72.44.59.140

 
 On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, loaded fine just now.
 
 --
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
 last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
 I am trying move the server to amazon.
 
 Can you reach web2py.com?
 
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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread mdipierro
yes that works.

Any EC2 expert around here?

On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

 Try 72.44.59.140



  On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes, loaded fine just now.

  --

  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
  wrote:
  I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
  last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
  I am trying move the server to amazon.

  Can you reach web2py.com?

  Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

 yes that works.
 
 Any EC2 expert around here?

DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.

 
 On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:
 
 Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow
 
 Try 72.44.59.140
 
 
 
 On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, loaded fine just now.
 
 --
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
 wrote:
 I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
 last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
 I am trying move the server to amazon.
 
 Can you reach web2py.com?
 
 Massimo


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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread minh
Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)

On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  yes that works.

  Any EC2 expert around here?

 DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.



  On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
  On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

  Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

  Try 72.44.59.140

  On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes, loaded fine just now.

  --

  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
  wrote:
  I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
  last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
  I am trying move the server to amazon.

  Can you reach web2py.com?

  Massimo

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[web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread mdipierro
It has moved. It is not here:

http://204.236.202.204/

My DNS has not refreshed in 2hrs. I tried

sudo dscacheutil -flushcache

I rebooted. Tried two browser. Still web2py.com does not map into the
above address.


On Feb 11, 7:07 pm, minh mdn0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)

 On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:

  On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:

   yes that works.

   Any EC2 expert around here?

  DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.

   On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
   On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:

   Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow

   Try 72.44.59.140

   On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes, loaded fine just now.

   --

   On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
   wrote:
   I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
   last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
   I am trying move the server to amazon.

   Can you reach web2py.com?

   Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py site problem ?!

2010-02-11 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:20 PM, mdipierro wrote:

 It has moved. It is not here:
 
 http://204.236.202.204/
 
 My DNS has not refreshed in 2hrs. I tried
 
 sudo dscacheutil -flushcache
 
 I rebooted. Tried two browser. Still web2py.com does not map into the
 above address.

It's more likely your local DNS server, not your local cache.

 
 
 On Feb 11, 7:07 pm, minh mdn0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not loading for me (from San Diego, CA)
 
 On Feb 11, 4:08 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:45 PM, mdipierro wrote:
 
 yes that works.
 
 Any EC2 expert around here?
 
 DNS is working fine for me. You might just need to wait a bit longer.
 
 On Feb 11, 4:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, mdipierro wrote:
 
 Than mine is not refreshing the dns somehow
 
 Try 72.44.59.140
 
 On Feb 11, 4:46 pm, tiago almeida tiago.b.alme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, loaded fine just now.
 
 --
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu 
 wrote:
 I have a possible break in. Lots of brute force ssh attacks in the
 last 3 days. 20 times more requests that usual.
 I am trying move the server to amazon.
 
 Can you reach web2py.com?
 
 Massimo
 
 
 
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