[libreoffice-website] bug on site

2011-01-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
attached find a screenshot of an error i found on the download page. I 
am on mac osx and viewing the page with safari. this was presented to me 
after clicking the big shiny download button on the main home page of 
the site


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[libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Hey guys first time posting to this list.

I would like to contribute to this part of the community.

Here is a bit about myself.

I admin 4 linux servers, and am LPIC1 (linux) certified.

Is there an offsite server based outside germany or anywhere else in the 
world that hosts a backup of the website in case main server needs to go 
down for maintenance it falls over to the backup server?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I am based on the island of malta. I work at a data center here, but i 
dont think i have the space to mirror the dvd's


On 01/08/2011 12:24, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/01/2011 05:06 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Hey guys first time posting to this list.

I would like to contribute to this part of the community.

Here is a bit about myself.

I admin 4 linux servers, and am LPIC1 (linux) certified.

Is there an offsite server based outside germany or anywhere else in 
the world that hosts a backup of the website in case main server 
needs to go down for maintenance it falls over to the backup server?



Where are you located?  Country?  State?

I do not know about LibreOffice/TDF, but once there are DVD projects 
offering ISOs for downloading it would be nice to have mirrors for 
these projects outside of Germany.  Not to be down about having the 
servers in Europe, but I think there need to be mirrors of the site[s] 
in North America, South America, and every major region of the globe.


Actually every International organization like LibreOffice/TDF needs 
to be regionally mirrored.  This could indicate that these regions 
support the organization and its software to the point that they want 
to make sure their region has access to the main web site even if 
something happens to main site's service, or something like that.


I once dealt with an internationally sold product company and they had 
their information mirrored in two location other than their 
headquarter's facility.  I worked for a time in that main computer 
center.







There are plenty of mirrors popping up all over the world, but is there 
a mirror for the website though? The website is crucial that it doesnt 
go down, especially if upgrades to the server the site is currently 
hosted on is needed what would the LO/ TDF in general do if the site 
went down?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Hey Christian

I already have a VPS setup which I use and host 4 sites with at the data 
center i work with. Here we have redundancy like no other, 4 fiber lines 
from 2 different providers, 2 lines each provider. so if something does 
go down, we switch to our immediate backup. each floor as well of our DC 
has 2 emergency generators in case of electrical outages, and can run 
the DC for 6 days.


I am more then willing to run a back up site on my vps. I am sure it 
would be much more effective to either have a round robin DNS setup and 
use both sites, or use one then change the DNS entry. What do you think. 
I could rsync the site on the main server to ensure that its up to date 
and a 2nd push of updates to my vps wont be necessary.


On 01/08/2011 12:47, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Jonathan, *,

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

[...]
Is there an offsite server based outside germany or anywhere else in the
world that hosts a backup of the website in case main server needs to go
down for maintenance it falls over to the backup server?

Offsite? No. Or depends on how you define it. We got backups and can
set up a replacement rather quickly when the current server goes AWOL,
however all those machines are at the same hosting company, so when
that hosting company exhibits a problem, we're cut for that time.
(pootle-server would be at different location, but we couldn't access
our backups to set up a replacement)

We're currently in the process of defining an automatic fallover.

So again in clear words:
* We have backups, and have servers that can act as a stand in.
* Currently setting up those replacements would be a manual process
(copying from the backups to a replacement machine, and adjusting DNS
entries)
* We are not prepared for the hosting-company to have general network
failures (but they surely will be very fast to solve those anyway)
* Making an automatic fallback is already in the works.

from your other post:

The website is crucial that it doesnt go down, especially if upgrades to the 
server the site
is currently hosted on is needed

Oh, the machine has undergone several updates already that demanded a
reboot, but downtimes caued by a reboot are so short, it's not worth
taking action...


what would the LO/ TDF in general do if the site went
down?

choose one of the remaining servers as replacement, play in a current
backup on that server, change DNS entry.

ciao
Christian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Florian that would be interesting read.

I work at a data center and im not sure what we could offer a non profit 
organization price wise if you want something in another country for 
redundancy. I have an ubuntu 10.04 vps from here and its very high 
performing considering i have my business website as well as an audio 
stream and 2 other sites on it.


Would you guys consider paying for a vps that you would have full 
control over. If so what specs would you want in a vps? a fully 
dedicated colocated server would be too costly as we charge per kwH of 
electricity.


On 02/08/2011 13:00, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-01 12:52:


I already have a VPS setup which I use and host 4 sites with at the data
center i work with. Here we have redundancy like no other, 4 fiber lines
from 2 different providers, 2 lines each provider. so if something does
go down, we switch to our immediate backup. each floor as well of our DC
has 2 emergency generators in case of electrical outages, and can run
the DC for 6 days.

I am more then willing to run a back up site on my vps. I am sure it
would be much more effective to either have a round robin DNS setup and
use both sites, or use one then change the DNS entry. What do you think.
I could rsync the site on the main server to ensure that its up to date
and a 2nd push of updates to my vps wont be necessary.


thanks for that kind offer. However, for achieving a real redundancy, 
what we need would be access to servers that are completely under our 
control, and that have only the installation we need on it (Ubuntu 
base system plus our server components). Given the high load the 
machines produce, a virtual machine might not be sufficient.


We are currently internally drafting a document on load balancing and 
failover/redundancy. I am happy to share the non-confidential parts on 
this list if this is of interest - if you can offer something that 
fits to those thoughts, that would of course be appreciated. :-)


However, a simple rsync solution is *not* sufficient, as our system is 
more complex.


Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Olav this is an enterprise data center. Are you thinking I'm not serious or
thinking I'm a joke of some sort?
On Aug 2, 2011 11:48 PM, "Olav Dahlum"  wrote:
> On 02/08/11 21:42, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-02 13:20:
>>> Florian that would be interesting read.
>>>
>>> I work at a data center and im not sure what we could offer a non profit
>>> organization price wise if you want something in another country for
>>> redundancy. I have an ubuntu 10.04 vps from here and its very high
>>> performing considering i have my business website as well as an audio
>>> stream and 2 other sites on it.
>>>
>>> Would you guys consider paying for a vps that you would have full
>>> control over. If so what specs would you want in a vps? a fully
>>> dedicated colocated server would be too costly as we charge per kwH of
>>> electricity.
>>
>> thanks for your kind offer, that's really appreciated! However, a
>> virtual machine doesn't suffice, we need "real" hardware, I fear. :-)
>>
>> Florian
>>
>
> It's not like its running on his desktop computer... Sounds HA to me.
>
> – Olav
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 03/08/2011 10:10, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-03 00:16:

Waow, calm down everyone, the levels of testosterone are a tad too high
here.:-)   Jonathan, thank you for your kind offer, I'm sure Florian 
will

keep you updated with our hardware needs.


we need a real hardware, as the VPS will simply not suffice in terms 
of power. :-) We have a high load, and a VPS will not be able to 
manage that, if we have not a machine exclusive for us.


Florian


Not to worry. The problem through us is hefty electricity fees :(

Florian would you like me to put ya in contact wiht someone from sales 
so you can get a quote?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I don't know where funding etc came into all of this, but i wasnt asking 
to be put in charge of renting the hardware. TDF would deal with the DC 
directly just with me as a reference.


On 03/08/2011 20:30, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/03/2011 02:13 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote:

Hi Florian,

if i am not mistaken doesn't TDF need to register for a European NPO 
entity form, in order to cover all of the EU (including malta) when i 
tried to do that to raise funds for my community i was shut down by 
the local law wanting at least 10 people as board members...  and 20 
for the eu, is the same in germany in order to register a NPO/NGO?


Which also leave me to conclude about the territorial laws on both 
legalisation on NPO/NGO, Copyright as so on... its a long and 
tewisted process in each country and done so for money hungry 
government officials and layers...


Then asking for funds from North America, and such as well, could 
cause paperwork nightmares that need to be worked on during the legal 
entity chartering.


I had enough trouble with living in New York state and doing business 
in both New York and Pennsylvania.  Multi country would cause me to go 
bald faster than I am now.






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[libreoffice-website] wiki

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
  I edited this afternoon one of the easy hacks, and i had put taken by 
above the tile of the easy hack. After saving it and it not showing up 
for a bit i re did it and put it underneath the title of the easy hack. 
After doing that the first one pops up above the title with no way to 
remove it as I had already removed the taken by code. Is this issue a 
bug in the wiki software or an issue somewhere else?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

the easy hacks page 2nd easy hack username is eagles051387

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks

On 04/08/2011 12:51, Volker Merschmann wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

2011/8/4 Jonathan Aquilina:

  I edited this afternoon one of the easy hacks, and i had put taken by above
the tile of the easy hack. After saving it and it not showing up for a bit i
re did it and put it underneath the title of the easy hack. After doing that
the first one pops up above the title with no way to remove it as I had
already removed the taken by code. Is this issue a bug in the wiki software
or an issue somewhere else?


Can you point us to the page/section and tell us your username for
investigation please?

We experienced some problems on the machine with the wiki yesterday
evening (approx. 19:00 CEST) and rebooted it.

Bye

Volker




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 05/08/2011 12:43, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 2011-08-05 11:06:

For Extensions we need a link on
 To the new
repository (also see ...)

We need volunteers to do the known todos

We need some kind of "Project leader filling repository", I doubt that
that will work without.

May be some marketing in the Wiki (banner) and also Project page will 
help?


ok, then I propose a different approach, in order not to rush things.

We start the repository under a different name, like extensions-test 
and templates-test, and announce that publically. That way, we can 
find volunteers, learn the process, and get the repository filled with 
files. As soon as things work out, we switch the "non-test" domain 
names to these sites.


Does that sound senseful?

Florian


Maybe somewhere someone should outline what volunteering entails?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/5/11 2:24 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:

Hi Jonathan, *,

Am Freitag, 5. August 2011, 13:51:37 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
(...)

Maybe somewhere someone should outline what volunteering entails?

the reviewer has to look over newly created projects and decide, if they fit in 
our
software / license policy and are usefull (not spam or something similar). 
Reviewers
should also look around inside the repository (site), if there is some new 
content
(files etc.) that don't match our goals and policy.

Does this explain the todos of a reviewer sufficient for you? If you need more
information, please ask again more specific.

Regards,
Andreas

Does one need to be familiar with the code base to do said task?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reviewer for the new template and extension repository

2011-08-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 05/08/2011 22:12, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 2011-08-05 21:59:
we need a few reviewer for the both new sites. They have to look over 
new projects on
the sites and decide, if the projects fits our policy (license etc.) 
and are not spam
or something similar. If you have some experience in that field and 
some remaining
spare time, please raise your hand, register an account on one or 
both sites (they
are currently independent in user management) and ask Florian 
Effenberger (floeff at

documentfoundation.org) for the necessary rights.


dumb question, but how do I grant the necessary rights? ;-) Didn't 
play with the interface that much, but I guess I just assign reviewer 
in the user rights to make the magic happen?


Florian

Andreas can u elaborate on what you mean by fits our policy. What is 
said policy. Will there be a page for reviewers to read up on the policy 
and what we need to review?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reviewer for the new template and extension repository

2011-08-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
In a nut shell serious projects and they are licensed according to what 
LO is licensed under. What happens if a project turns out to be spam how 
is it dealt with?


On 08/08/2011 10:32, Andreas Mantke wrote:

Hi Florian, Jonathan, *,

just a short and quick answer, because I have not much time yet ;-)

Am 08.08.2011 10:01, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

On 05/08/2011 22:12, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 2011-08-05 21:59:

we need a few reviewer for the both new sites. They have to look
over new projects on
the sites and decide, if the projects fits our policy (license etc.)
and are not spam
or something similar. If you have some experience in that field and
some remaining
spare time, please raise your hand, register an account on one or
both sites (they
are currently independent in user management) and ask Florian
Effenberger (floeff at
documentfoundation.org) for the necessary rights.


dumb question, but how do I grant the necessary rights? ;-) Didn't
play with the interface that much, but I guess I just assign reviewer
in the user rights to make the magic happen?

Florian


Andreas can u elaborate on what you mean by fits our policy. What is
said policy. Will there be a page for reviewers to read up on the
policy and what we need to review?

The reviewer should look about the license and that the project intent 
to be usefull for LibO (not spam, joke etc.). If we look later at the 
files, we had to test, if they work with specific versions of LibO. 
But that is not the task for the reviewer, when he decides if he 
publishe the project or not.


But he should have an eye on the projects he published.

Regards,
Andreas





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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reviewer for the new template and extension repository

2011-08-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

You can count me in on this :)

Also what will happen with extensions which are a big question mark. Is 
there going to be a review board of some sort?


On 08/08/2011 10:45, Andreas Mantke wrote:

Hi Jonathan, *,

Am 08.08.2011 10:37, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
In a nut shell serious projects and they are licensed according to 
what LO is licensed under. What happens if a project turns out to be 
spam how is it dealt with?


in a nut shell yes. If they are turning out to be spam, we had to 
unpublish them (and maybe contact the owner and tell him that we will 
delete it or we decide delete the content directly.). I would vote for 
the second one (delete directly).


Regards,
Andreas




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reviewer for the new template and extension repository

2011-08-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I think though that we should know the license they are planning to 
release it under even if a first release is way off.


On 08/08/2011 13:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Andreas Mantke wrote:

The reviewer should look about the license and that the project intent
to be usefull for LibO (not spam, joke etc.). If we look later at the
files, we had to test, if they work with specific versions of LibO. But
that is not the task for the reviewer, when he decides if he publishe
the project or not.


Actually, if I got it right when uploading this extension (everything 
worked nicely, great!)
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center/italian-dictionary-thesaurus-hyphenation-patterns 

the reviewer won't have license information available, since this 
information is not asked for when creating the project but when 
creating a specific release, which is only possible after the project 
has been approved.


So a reviewer must probably decide based on common sense rather than 
on the license, and then he must monitor the first releases.


Regards,
  Andrea.




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Florian i would like to volunteer with this endeavor, but also i feel 
for volunteers it would be nice to have a list of rules and guidelines 
somewhere on the site that we can consult when we are in doubt.


On 8/10/11 10:23 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 2011-08-10 10:17:


discussion here on the list was useful during the Alpha phase of the
website, but from now on it will not bring forward anything. We need
active promotion! My experience is that if some people started visible
activity others will follow, but currently there is no such "visible
activity". I had to ask Google for the current URL of the Extensions
repository.


Not true. Andreas asked for volunteers a few days ago, and even posted 
the URL to this list. Maybe you missed it with all the mails, but it 
has been sent. :-)



Any ideas how to announce existence of the test repository ant the need
for volunteers for the tasks listed on
?

We can't burden all that to Andreas, "the marketing machine" has to be
started to hire volunteers.


The plan is that we need to find volunteers, and when we can ensure we 
have enough people capable of reviewing extensions and managing the 
site, we can announce a public test - not vice versa. Imagine we 
started a public campaign, and the nobody is available for reviewing 
new extensions. Not a good idea...


So, I hope some more people reply to Andreas' call.


I started to test the website 


Thanks!


(by the way,
 


also still is available) to honour my promise on


IMHO, Andreas wanted that for maintenance.

Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Ya it does in regards to the guidelines. What does one need to do to sign up

On 8/10/11 10:30 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 10:28:

Florian i would like to volunteer with this endeavor, but also i feel
for volunteers it would be nice to have a list of rules and guidelines
somewhere on the site that we can consult when we are in doubt.


Andreas posted some information in one of the threads, IIRC. Does this 
already help?


Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

No I have not.

On 8/10/11 10:37 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 10:32:

Ya it does in regards to the guidelines. What does one need to do to
sign up


did you register yourself on the site already?

Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

I havent signed up on the website.

On 8/10/11 10:37 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 10:32:

Ya it does in regards to the guidelines. What does one need to do to
sign up


did you register yourself on the site already?

Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Oops sry for posting yet again on that. What is the link to where i can 
sign up.


On 8/10/11 10:39 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Then you should start with that ;)

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 10:38:

No I have not.





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Re: [libreoffice-website] Change of template.libo.org to the new Plone repository?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Registered :D

On 8/10/11 10:45 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

At http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org in the right upper corner

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 10:41:

Oops sry for posting yet again on that. What is the link to where i can
sign up.





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[libreoffice-website] activation of my account

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
hey Florian im trying to reset my password with the link provided in the 
email to activate my account but I get this error


Error setting password
Sorry, this appears to be an invalid request. Please make sure you 
copied the URL exactly as it appears in your email and that you entered 
your user name correctly.


All I did was click on the link in the email and put in my new password

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Re: [libreoffice-website] activation of my account

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

No I have not I am on mac osx lion with the latest version of safari.

after getting that error when i click the link again it takes me to the 
error directly


On 8/10/11 11:17 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-10 11:09:

hey Florian im trying to reset my password with the link provided in the
email to activate my account but I get this error

Error setting password
Sorry, this appears to be an invalid request. Please make sure you
copied the URL exactly as it appears in your email and that you entered
your user name correctly.

All I did was click on the link in the email and put in my new password


I unfortunately don't know what the problem is here - maybe Andreas, 
our Plone-Expert, can help. :-)


Did you try another browser?

Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] activation of my account

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I have an account for the wiki, but im thinking this isnt tied in wiht 
that account is it?


On 8/10/11 12:08 PM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Jonathan Aquilina schrieb:


after getting that error when i click the link again it takes me to the
error directly


Hi,

that sounds that you "somehow" already have done the confirmation. And 
of course, it might be a bug. Did you already try to get a new password?


My suggestion: report a bug (Details you find on 
<http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details#WWW>.


If someone else will have the same problem, he will be cheered up a 
little seeing that he is not alone ;-)


CU

Rainer





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Re: [libreoffice-website] activation of my account

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/10/11 1:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

My suggestion: report a bug (Details you find on
.
If someone else will have the same problem, he will be cheered up a
little seeing that he is not alone ;-)


Since it seems that only a handful of people registered so far, I'll 
just add the reassuring remark that everything worked correctly for me 
a few days ago. I was able to:

- Register to the website
- Set my password
- Propose a new project and request that it was published
- [ It was indeed published by some unknown administrator ]
- Create and publish a release

You can find the final result at
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center/italian-dictionary-thesaurus-hyphenation-patterns 

and everything worked normally for me; so I expect that this basic 
workflow should work for others too.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Andrea are the user names and passwords tied in wiht the main LO wiki?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] activation of my account

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/10/11 1:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

My suggestion: report a bug (Details you find on
.
If someone else will have the same problem, he will be cheered up a
little seeing that he is not alone ;-)


Since it seems that only a handful of people registered so far, I'll 
just add the reassuring remark that everything worked correctly for me 
a few days ago. I was able to:

- Register to the website
- Set my password
- Propose a new project and request that it was published
- [ It was indeed published by some unknown administrator ]
- Create and publish a release

You can find the final result at
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center/italian-dictionary-thesaurus-hyphenation-patterns 

and everything worked normally for me; so I expect that this basic 
workflow should work for others too.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Disregard my previous email it worked resetting the password but I have 
no idea where the error message came from though



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[libreoffice-website] extension site rights

2011-08-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Hey Florian who should I poke so that might rights on my account can be 
adjusted so I can review extensions


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Re: [libreoffice-website] extension site rights

2011-08-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 8/11/11 3:54 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-11 15:14:

Hey Florian who should I poke so that might rights on my account can be
adjusted so I can review extensions


what is your username?

Florian


eagles051387 is my username :)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO

2011-08-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 27/08/2011 15:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/26/2011 09:19 PM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Warren  wrote:
May i ask if i may be able t download and distribute if not 
translate the

project in maltese for the locals here as most net connections have a
download limit, and distributing the discs for free like in our 
capital is a

huge marketing advantage.

thanks
Warren camilleri (ossmalta)

Legally you have every right to do so. The best thing would be to sign
up to the marketing list and make contact with the guys who distribute
the North American DVD. They can advise you about all you'd need to
know: what to include, how to stay in compliance with TDF copyright
guidelines, etc.


Well he is "talking" to one - ME.
I am the one who hosts LibreOffice-NA.US, and the one who took the 
original German language "beta" distribution DVD and made it work for 
the North American Community.  With the help of others, we developed 
the idea and work to be more than what it originally was.


He is working with TDF people since it looks like he is creating 
"mt.libreoffice.org", or one of the sub-domains.


I do not know if he wants to have an online version of the work, as 
done with the CMS system, but it is better, in my opinion, to work out 
the what you want offline and then do the editing to have an online 
version.


I think he wants an English language version, with it also translated 
into his regions native language.  He also seems to want to have it 
Windows-only, with a link to where his users can get Linux and Mac 
installs.


I "take my hat off" for anyone who wants to create a native language 
distribution, with a different language add with it.


The one thing he did say, I think, was that he would love for it to be 
plug-n-play.  He wanted you to place the DVD in the drive and it would 
ask you if you wanted to install the package or browse the disc.  This 
type of auto-play has now been disabled on the Windows OS, so that 
part is not to be done easy.  He is not a programmer, so he would have 
difficulties to make it plug-n-play to begin with.




You have your terminology incorrect here, the term is auto play, which 
all operating systems do from Linux to windows to mac. i have played 
dvd's of games and auto play seems to work none the less. What windows 
OS are you talking about. I am on windows 7 ultimate 64bit


Still, he really wants the people in his region to have a distribution 
disc in their native language.  For that, he is going to do a very 
good thing.






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Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO

2011-08-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 27/08/2011 19:02, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/27/2011 11:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 27/08/2011 15:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:




You have your terminology incorrect here, the term is auto play, 
which all operating systems do from Linux to windows to mac. i have 
played dvd's of games and auto play seems to work none the less. What 
windows OS are you talking about. I am on windows 7 ultimate 64bit





As for my "word use", having survived 3 strokes tend to mess thing up 
sometimes on what are the correct words and phrases are the correct 
ones to use.  That is way I do not like to write documentation or even 
take notes at meetings.  So please forgive me improper word usage or 
terminology.  If it passes my spell checker in Thunderbird, I may not 
catch the error.


My apologies if i came off a bit harsh that wasn't my intention :( as 
well i wasn't aware of your given situation :(

---

There is a MS security patch that prevents certain "auto play" options 
from happening.  This was created to stop those nasties from 
"auto-installing" when you insert a CD or DVD into a drive, or the 
same with Thumb-drives or camera cards.


I do not know all the ins-and-outs of what the patch does, but it was 
meant to stop users from having their computer infected by so nasty 
program.  I know that it work on XP and Vista systems though.  Most of 
my driver and software install CDs no longer automatically run after I 
place them into the drive.


Music and Video discs are exempt from this security option, but I did 
not hear anything about game discs.


I think I remember Drew was one thinking about having a distribution 
disc auto-play, or some term describing the following:  Place the disc 
in the drive, computer reads the disc auto-play file[s], package 
determines what OS you have installed, then it asks you if you want to 
install the proper package for your system's OS.  Windows install 
shown for Windows systems, Mac Intel or PPC if it was one of those, 
DEB or RPM for the Linux systems.  At least that was my opinion on 
what he was thinking a few months back.  That would be nice for some 
people with limited computer skills, but could be a dangerous security 
issue for others.


Personally, I would prefer not having a software package "auto play" 
when I place the disc into my drive.  I may want to browse the disk 
instead of installing the default software.


For the "distribution CD/DVD" I like the option to either open the 
HTML files in my default browser, OR just browse the disc to see what 
all it on it.  For those who need help and guidance, having the 
install information and what is one the disk, spelled out by using 
easy to use browser-based pages is useful.  Also for those who know 
what is on the disc and just needs to read some documentation file or 
install a dictionary or other add-on, having the choice it important.








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Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO

2011-08-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
As I work with warren i don't think Linux and Mac should be removed. I 
too am a mac user and would be valuable to those who use mac as well. I 
don't think we should exclude any platform at all except for now the 
mobile platforms like iOS and android.


On 27/08/2011 22:44, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Warren:

As for ISO Downloads, Here is the German language DVD links.
http://de.libreofficebox.org/download

http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.3.3/LibO-3.3.3-1_DVD_allplatforms_de.iso 



I do not have one for the English language version, since the North 
American version on the LibreOfficeBox.org system has not been 
generated yet.


Also, do to size limitation on my hosting account, I am not allowed to 
have CD or DVD size files stored there.


I wonder how much it would cost, and how quick it would be, to 
ship/mail/etc. a DVD in its protective case [not paper sleeve] to your 
location from Elmira, NY, USA?


I would love to have you get a copy of our work we did to create a 
North American Community DVD.


If I created a bunch of ZIP files that held all of the up-to-date 
install and other files on the LibreOffice-NA.US site for 3.3.4, would 
you want to download them and put them together into the proper folder 
tree?  It would take some time to upload them to my hosting account, 
due to the slow upload speed of my cable-modem broadband account, but 
if you are willing to download them, I am willing to upload them so 
you can get them.


It would not take long to remove the Linux and Mac files from 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html [now 3.3.4 installs] to 
make it Windows-only.  I planned on doing that, but had other things 
needed to be done first offline.  This version of the site/DVD has the 
CMS style of navigation and theme, while 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/index.html [which is 3.3.3 
installs] uses the original style/theme the German language version 
used many months ago.


Please let me know what you want to do.

---

Maybe Drew can get the CMS people to generate the DVD ISO for 
"testing" now so you could have the option to download that version.  
There are some folder/file structure differences between what is on 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html and 
http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/ but LibreOffice-NA.US 
has been up for longer and has had more time in the editing and 
reviewing for errors.  Once the new site is finished, the old one may 
be used to test different ideas for different version of the NA DVD.




On 08/27/2011 03:35 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote:


What i wanted to do in simple terms:

flash auto-play works as i use it at work (and i have an ACA in 
flash) - the
autoplay will have these links -  Install Libreoffice, System 
Requirements,
Documentation in english for now till i finish translating the disc 
and its

current contents in Maltese.

now since Libreoffice needs java on that pc it will be with Step 1: 
Install
Java, Step 2: install Libreoffice Step 3: install LO Help files, 
additional

steps(links): step 4: download extensions, Step 5; download templates
and social networking links facebook/twitter

all this for a windows PC, i can burn dvds as well as disks i'll 
start of

with the DVD as is but add an auto-play (and program it according to its
contents) once i get to look into the files that is, also if you may 
send me

link to download the ISO if possible

i am also open to assistance and constructive criticism. as for the 
Linux
part, Jonathan when your not so busy that area is where i will be 
needing

you.

the reason why i will be shipping it as is, as MS has just signed a 
contract
with the government on windows and other apps, as for office it is 
not clear

yet, so i wanted to get a foot into that race...







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Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO

2011-08-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 27/08/2011 21:35, Warren Camilleri wrote:

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:


On 27/08/2011 19:02, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


On 08/27/2011 11:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:


On 27/08/2011 15:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:




You have your terminology incorrect here, the term is auto play, which
all operating systems do from Linux to windows to mac. i have played dvd's
of games and auto play seems to work none the less. What windows OS are you
talking about. I am on windows 7 ultimate 64bit



As for my "word use", having survived 3 strokes tend to mess thing up
sometimes on what are the correct words and phrases are the correct ones to
use.  That is way I do not like to write documentation or even take notes at
meetings.  So please forgive me improper word usage or terminology.  If it
passes my spell checker in Thunderbird, I may not catch the error.

  My apologies if i came off a bit harsh that wasn't my intention :( as

well i wasn't aware of your given situation :(

  ---

There is a MS security patch that prevents certain "auto play" options
from happening.  This was created to stop those nasties from
"auto-installing" when you insert a CD or DVD into a drive, or the same with
Thumb-drives or camera cards.

I do not know all the ins-and-outs of what the patch does, but it was
meant to stop users from having their computer infected by so nasty program.
  I know that it work on XP and Vista systems though.  Most of my driver and
software install CDs no longer automatically run after I place them into the
drive.

Music and Video discs are exempt from this security option, but I did not
hear anything about game discs.

I think I remember Drew was one thinking about having a distribution disc
auto-play, or some term describing the following:  Place the disc in the
drive, computer reads the disc auto-play file[s], package determines what OS
you have installed, then it asks you if you want to install the proper
package for your system's OS.  Windows install shown for Windows systems,
Mac Intel or PPC if it was one of those, DEB or RPM for the Linux systems.
  At least that was my opinion on what he was thinking a few months back.
  That would be nice for some people with limited computer skills, but could
be a dangerous security issue for others.

Personally, I would prefer not having a software package "auto play" when
I place the disc into my drive.  I may want to browse the disk instead of
installing the default software.

For the "distribution CD/DVD" I like the option to either open the HTML
files in my default browser, OR just browse the disc to see what all it on
it.  For those who need help and guidance, having the install information
and what is one the disk, spelled out by using easy to use browser-based
pages is useful.  Also for those who know what is on the disc and just needs
to read some documentation file or install a dictionary or other add-on,
having the choice it important.



What i wanted to do in simple terms:

flash auto-play works as i use it at work (and i have an ACA in flash) - the
autoplay will have these links -  Install Libreoffice, System Requirements,
Documentation in english for now till i finish translating the disc and its
current contents in Maltese.

now since Libreoffice needs java on that pc it will be with Step 1: Install
Java, Step 2: install Libreoffice Step 3: install LO Help files, additional
steps(links): step 4: download extensions, Step 5; download templates
and social networking links facebook/twitter

all this for a windows PC, i can burn dvds as well as disks i'll start of
with the DVD as is but add an auto-play (and program it according to its
contents) once i get to look into the files that is, also if you may send me
link to download the ISO if possible

i am also open to assistance and constructive criticism. as for the Linux
part, Jonathan when your not so busy that area is where i will be needing
you.

the reason why i will be shipping it as is, as MS has just signed a contract
with the government on windows and other apps, as for office it is not clear
yet, so i wanted to get a foot into that race...

Warren in regards to Linux we will have issues as we don't know what 
Linux distros people are on. I am wondering for the DVD if i should 
package up libreoffice as an rpm as well as a deb package and then that 
will be easy for users to install. Also warren i would check on the 
libreoffice-dev irc channel on freenode and ask about java. If I am not 
mistaken it might have the java installer bundled with it I dunno for 
certain.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Bugzilla Bug Report Assistant

2011-09-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 16/09/2011 10:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Florian Effenberger schrieb:

Hi,

Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 2011-09-15 16:22:

I hope I successfully explained what we need?


first, thanks for all your work on this!

So, if I understand the situation right, my proposal would be to have
something like http://bugassistant.libreoffice.org hard-coded in the
program, and that subdomain automatically redirects to the site with the
bug assistant. So, if in the future, the URL on our server changes, we
just adjust the bugassistant.lo redirection on our server, but the
hardcoded URL in LibreOffice stays the same.

Right?



Hi,

yes, that's exactly the idea behind that. In between Christoph offered 
some very good ideas for additional benefit such a page can bring, but 
that currently imho does not touch the basic idea: we need a flexible 
feedback-switch page.
In a first step (for test affairs for feedback from Master) a simple 
forward to fdo.bugzilla

second step selection "fdo or new assistant?"
third step: Nice feedback page, may be with various selections (Want 
to report bug? want to praise great LibO team work? ...


That all is completely independent from Loic's work, Loic, please 
forget my request.


Cheers

Rainer


Rainer here is just a suggest.

How about linking it directly to Bugzilla. Have it do a search for a 
particular issue and list them if found. if not give the option for the 
report to report a new bug?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Second Manager of the Extensions- and Templates-Website

2011-09-24 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Besides learning a new cms could you go into more details as to what the 
position entails.


On 24/09/2011 23:22, Andreas Mantke wrote:

Hi all,

the extensions- and templates-website is online (in beta-test) nearly since two
weeks. Currently I'm the only one who works with the rights of a manager on the
site(s). I think we need another manager for the site, because sometimes I 
prefer to
go on holiday without access to the internet or because I'm not available for a
longer periode.

Is there anyone who volunteer for this todo. It's the oportunity to learn many 
things
about the powerful CMS Plone and his add-ons (and also about users behavior ;-)

Regards,
Andreas



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Second Manager of the Extensions- and Templates-Website

2011-09-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I am as well but would like to know what it entails as well as I am 
quite busy with studies as well



On 25/09/2011 11:08, Olivier R. wrote:

Hi all,


Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Besides learning a new cms could you go into more details as to what the
position entails.


+1

I am interested but very busy also. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Second Manager of the Extensions- and Templates-Website

2011-09-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Then plz consider me as a candidate
On Sep 25, 2011 10:02 PM, "Andreas Mantke"  wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, Oliver, Kami, *,
>
> Am Sonntag, 25. September 2011, 19:44:35 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
>> I am as well but would like to know what it entails as well as I am
>> quite busy with studies as well
>>
>> On 25/09/2011 11:08, Olivier R. wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> >> Besides learning a new cms could you go into more details as to what
the
>> >> position entails.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > I am interested but very busy also. :)
>
> I try to answer the questions from the status of today. This may change a
bit, if our
> sites are more popular and there are more people, asking for help or doing
some
> unusal tasks ;-)
>
> Currently the manager has to help some users that have issues with their
account or
> with their extensions/templates.
> They have e.g. issues with the opt-in-email or get an error message, if
they create a
> new release or want to upload their extension/template. The manager has to
deal with
> this. He had to read the full error message, analyse the problem and
search for a
> solution (that could be a workaround for the user, e.g. a different file
format that
> works).
>
> Because there are currently not enough active reviewer of projects, the
manager has
> also to do this task and proofread the new projects, look at the language
setting of
> each new project and every new release (and eventually change it manually
to language
> neutral) and publish the project, if every thing is according to our
conditions. If
> there is something missing (e.g. a screenshot or a project logo) or there
is a wrong
> logo (not project related) the manager will inform the contributor by
email (from
> inside the Plone CMS with webmaster-address).
>
> I think this are currently the main duties of the manager.
>
> There are some other tasks that could only be done by the developer of the
plattform
> (that's me ;-)
> If there is an update (for security or other reasons) needed or the
instance had to
> be restarted, this is only posible from the file system of the server.
This needs
> permissions from the TDF and a ssh-key on the server. But this tasks have
not to be
> done every day, because Plone is a very secure framework and security
issues are
> rarely.
>
> I hope this helps to answer your questions about the manager job. If not,
please ask
> more specific questions. I try to answer them ;-)
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Time to stop using Nabble?

2011-10-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

When you say working on our own solution you mean develop one from scratch?

On 01/10/2011 12:45, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

David Nelson wrote on 2011-10-01 01:16:
I notice that our Nabble mailing list interface is now carrying 
advertising.


Is it time we stopped using Nabble and found some other solution 
instead?


Drew mentioned that a few days ago - our plan was to pay Nabble to 
remove the ads, and in parallel work on our own solution to replace 
Nabble.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Time to stop using Nabble?

2011-10-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I am working with a rather great python web framework called django. If 
an initiative is put forth i would love to take charge of this project 
at least the setup part of it.


I am currently working on a project with it and i have it setup in a git 
repository no problem and its quite easy to get going :)


On 01/10/2011 12:48, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-01 12:46:
When you say working on our own solution you mean develop one from 
scratch?


I have no plan on that yet, that's something we as community can work 
on. :)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Time to stop using Nabble?

2011-10-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

Do you mean Alex Thurgood?

On 01/10/2011 13:09, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-01 12:50:

I am working with a rather great python web framework called django. If
an initiative is put forth i would love to take charge of this project
at least the setup part of it.

I am currently working on a project with it and i have it setup in a git
repository no problem and its quite easy to get going :)


thanks for the offer - that sounds really good! Alex, one of our 
admins, is also a Python developer, so that sounds like a good 
combination. :)


I'll ping this list when we made progress on the idea, but most 
probably not before the Conference in Paris.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Time to stop using Nabble?

2011-10-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 01/10/2011 13:38, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Alex Werner ;)

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-01 13:15:

Do you mean Alex Thurgood?



Is there a way i can contact him?

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[libreoffice-website] extensions dont have a section for licenses visible on the page

2011-10-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I am looking at 
extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center/copy-only-visible-cells.


The issue i see is that there is no section so that the author can state 
what license they are licensing the extension under.


This makes it harder to see if the extension is licensed as the TDF 
would like them to be


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Re: [libreoffice-website] extensions dont have a section for licenses visible on the page

2011-10-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
So the licensing for the one I linked is fine. Also is it possible to have a
page for reviewers to be able to use as a reference?
On Oct 7, 2011 5:14 PM, "Andreas Mantke"  wrote:
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>
> Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011, 09:31:34 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
>> I am looking at
>> extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center/copy-only-visible-cells.
>>
>> The issue i see is that there is no section so that the author can state
>> what license they are licensing the extension under.
>>
>> This makes it harder to see if the extension is licensed as the TDF
>> would like them to be
>
> you can in your role as manager see the license only on the release page.
It is
> posible to create releases under different licenses (that fits into our
pattern). It
> is also posible to publish a release under more than one license
(currently there are
> three licenses posible).
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] extensions dont have a section for licenses visible on the page

2011-10-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Guidelines for the reviewed. What's acceptable etc when it comes to
extensions
On Oct 7, 2011 7:41 PM, "Andreas Mantke"  wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, *,
>
> Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2011, 19:27:03 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
>> So the licensing for the one I linked is fine. Also is it possible to
have
>> a page for reviewers to be able to use as a reference?
>
> I don't get what you have in mind. Do you want to create a special site
with
> information for reviewers? Could you please explain a bit more specific?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: VM migration - anything productive on them?

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Why not setup xen. Yes its more work but the advantage of this is you 
can set up LVM to allow for the vm's to grow and allocation of disk 
space isnt static. one thing that cant be done is shrinking of a vm.


Ubuntu 11.10 has a very easy to use provisioning system as well as web 
based vm management and monitoring such as nagios infrastructure monitoring.


On 18/10/2011 20:45, Alexander Werner wrote:

Hi,

Am 18.10.2011 20:26, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Any objections of having it as LXC? Anyone knows if there is a converter
for VirtualBox to LXC? Cc'ing Alex, who might know.

Hi,
there is no direct migration path as LXC are "only" containers running
on the host filesystem.
It is also hard to mount the vdi hdd-image, so copying existing
important data should be done using scp/rsync from the old vms to grisu,
where the files can be simply moved to the rootfs directories of the lxc
containers.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: VM migration - anything productive on them?

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
ahh ok. xen as well has been integrated into the 3.0 kernel stack it 
seems as well :D learn something new every day :D


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LXC is a fast and lightweight solution that works with the default
kernel, can use the host's filesystem or lvm or files as rootfs and
provides very easy setup and finegrained rights management.
Also the configuration of a DomU on a Hetzner server requires quite
annoying routing and gateway setups to prevent the packages being
silently dropped by Hetzners switches.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: official forums

2011-11-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/12/11 10:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello,

Olivier R. wrote on 2011-11-12 10:02:

You should also have a look on bbPress :
http://bbpress.org/
http://bbpress.org/forums/

With this forum, you can tag threads, which is very interesting to 
classify

topics.


let's move over the discussion to the website list. I prefer people 
volunteering for having a look at systems and summing up what they can 
do for TDF. We can only consider those systems someone investigated, 
so - volunteers? ;-)


Florian


What testing would you like me to do for phpbb?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Use of staging server ( was: official forums)

2011-11-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/11/2011 23:38, drew wrote:

On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 10:38 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:


What testing would you like me to do for phpbb?

Regards


Hi Jonathan,


May redirect your question, just a bit.

So, there are really two different levels of interaction here that will
need to be filled by folk - there are site (server) level administrative
tasks and a service level tasks.

The later (service level) tasks will likely be available fully within a
control panel type set of web pages.

The server level tasks however, working directly with the connected
dbms, changing settings/options with php, or image manipulation libs,
etc., will require some different level of access to the actual server
being used.

Sounds to me, from reading your prior emails, that you are interested in
volunteering to be responsible for server level tasks.

Now if I follow correctly from what Florian has said in a few emails one
idea here is that there will be (is?) a vm on the tdf server that can be
used to develop the service - a staging server in other words.

I'm naive as to whether you are already working with the current tdf
admin crew at this level - but either - I would suggest to turn your
question into:

What steps are needed now to get you, and others willing to get this
involved, connected?
- as for first work steps, getting a standard lamp stack setup, I guess.

//drew



Hey Drew thanks for your reply.

I am actually not working with the server admin staff, but would be very 
interested. Also I have been discussing on and off via skype with 
Florian about options and server side things. Was hoping to have a more 
indepth chat with him about it and about how to move forward, but things 
came up and he was very busy. I am hoping this week I can discuss this 
further with him. As for me getting a LAMP stack installed on linux isnt 
a problem neither setting up.


Florian did mention the TDF getting another or some more servers, In all 
honesty i would rather test directly on physical hardware if that is 
goign to be where the forums eventually get deployed, as all we would 
need to do is let everyone know that here is the forums that they can 
start being used.


Another thing I have noticed in my experiences in testing on the actual 
hardware vs virtual machines, is that issues might arise on physical 
hardware and not in a virtual machine and vise versa.


Florian would it be an issue if we tested on physical hardware instead 
of a virtual machine for the above mentioned reason of ensuring no 
issues arise both in a vm and not physical machine and vice versa?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: official forums

2011-11-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 13/11/2011 14:21, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-11-12 10:38:

What testing would you like me to do for phpbb?


first of all, thanks for everyone's offer, that's really great to have 
such a strong and supportive community! :-)


I myself will not have the time to evaluate forums myself, so what I'd 
like to have is a list of forum software with their pros and cons, 
plus the names of people who would be willing to 1. install and 
upgrade 2. administer them. In the end, we should set-up with a forum 
software that has good features plus a lot of supporting administrators.


Ideally, people put it on their webspace to test and evaluate it. We 
might also jump in with a VM where people can install software on. 
Later on, as proposed, I would move the forum to our productive 
servers, freeing the VM again, unless there is a compelling reason not 
to do so (I only have limited VMs and IP addresses at the moment, so 
if we stay with a VM for practical reasons, we have to do something 
with Apache mod_proxy to forward the requests).


Florian

Florian wouldnt it be easier to put it on a testing server which would 
be the physical hardware? Also is there a page on the wiki for the above 
mentioned points


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Use of staging server ( was: official forums)

2011-11-14 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/14/11 1:03 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-11-13 15:45:



[SNIP]
I am sadly very busy, but I did not forget about you, I'll try to ping 
you when I find time. TDF is pro bono for me, so sometimes, the real 
life kicks in and needs its time...



I totally understand, I know what its like when real life kicks in as well.

Florian did mention the TDF getting another or some more servers, In all


That's on the agenda, but I doubt that it will happen this year, to be 
honest. It's a matter of money and time. But in the long run, more 
hardware will be ordered, because it is needed.


No worries Reason i suggested testing on the actual hardware would be to 
try and cut down the work then of migrating the forums from the staging 
machine to the live server. How time consuming would it be to migrate 
from a vm to a live machine once we have finished testing?



honesty i would rather test directly on physical hardware if that is
goign to be where the forums eventually get deployed, as all we would
need to do is let everyone know that here is the forums that they can
start being used.


Why would you want to test on physical hardware directly? Where would 
be the difference?



Another thing I have noticed in my experiences in testing on the actual
hardware vs virtual machines, is that issues might arise on physical
hardware and not in a virtual machine and vise versa.


We are just talking about forum software, not rocket science. ;-) So, 
I really doubt we'll run into problems here if we test it in a VM.

Agreed. I can confirm though with phpbb that there are no issues on a vm :)




Florian would it be an issue if we tested on physical hardware instead
of a virtual machine for the above mentioned reason of ensuring no
issues arise both in a vm and not physical machine and vice versa?


Yes, it would be, as I don't have any spare server where people can 
test software. I can offer a VM, but that's it.


Vm will suffice :D its just taht i have seen some strange os based bugs 
surface on vm's that usually dont surface on the actual hardware.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluating AskBot - Embedding the UI in Silverstripe

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 16/11/2011 00:14, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Drew, *,

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM, drew  wrote:

Looking at the AskBot documentation and searching the AskBot Q+A site on
the subject of templates/themes and customization [...]

So, my question is - would the use of AskBot negate our ability to embed
the QA service as SilverStripe page?

It would not be one single page, at least I'd hate to loose the SEO
friendly links to individual questions. So if at all, it would have
its own realm at www.libreoffice.org/askbot/ or something similar.

But then again, the difference between having it an own instance and
linked to the silverstripe site itself is not really that big. Only
thing is having the menu/navigation available.

So the question is more like: is it worth having it somewhere between
the rest of the navigation? What would be the actual benefits?

ciao
Christian

Instead of integrating it with silverstripe why not still use normal 
forms and link askbot to the forums so if anyone searches for a question 
it lists appropriate forum solutions?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] JRE download link

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 17/11/2011 01:55, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I do not remember seeing a separate 32-bit and 64-bit version of 
Java's JRE on their site.

At least for Windows there was no different versions.

Windows version is listed as "i586" as in "jre-6u22-windows-i586.exe"

For Linux version, all you have to do is go to your Package Manager 
and install the "default JRE" listed.


It is sort of weird that even the latest Ubuntu installs [11.04 and 
11.10] that automatically installs LO does not install the JRE as 
well.  Last week, I did a test install of Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, 
and Mint 11 [Debian based now], and all three install LO without 
installing the "default JRE" package.




On 11/16/2011 07:21 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Antanas, *,

2011/11/16 Antanas Budriūnas:

I got a proposal from one of FLOSS actyvists in Lithuania about
including JRE download link into http://lt.libreoffice.org download
section.

Putting a download link is not a problem.
Just make sure that the users get the stable/release version and
understand that they need a 32bit version when using 32bit version of
LibreOffice, and 64bit when using 64bit version of LibreOffice.

ciao
Christian




Not trying to hijack this thread but i installed a windows bootcamp 
partition on my imac and i went to java.sun.com which redirects to the 
oracle java page, and if you hit get java now it takes you to the java 7 
versions but you can find older. then once you choose if you want just 
the jre or both jdk and jre it takes you too the download page where you 
will see both a 32bit version and 64bit versions. I have asked in the 
past and its ok to have both 32bit and 64bit versions installed sideby side.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of askbot - how to deal with different languages

2011-11-23 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
On 23/11/2011 18:56, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Reply-To: website@global.libreoffice.org
>
> Hi *,
>
> as some of you already have noticed, we're currently evaluating askbot
> (a system similar to stackoverflow, a question & answers system) for
> end-user support, in addition to forums.
>
> The test installation is available at:
> http://osqa-test.libreoffice.org (not that the theme is being worked
> on, so there might be display glitches at times).
>
> The question and the reason why crossposting this to l10n & projects
> (please f'up2 website) is:
>
> How should different languages be handled?
>
> See also
> http://osqa-test.libreoffice.org/question/14/how-will-this-site-work-with-different-languages
>
> I personally would prefer the mixing-bowl approach, i.e. only one site
> where questions in different languages are posted.
>
> Would  you consider this as a problem? What other proposals do you have?
>
> Feel free to use the askbot installation to post your answers, or
> reply to the website@global.libreoffice.org mailinglist.
>
> ciao
> Christian
>
I have looked at phpbb and it has over 40 different languages if i
remember correctly. Would it be possible to link the forum posts to a
section on askbot for that particular language?

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of askbot - how to deal with different languages

2011-11-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 27/11/2011 11:24, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

sorry for the short reply, has been a long weekend:

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-11-26 22:42:

I am a little confused as to why we are looking at "Askbot".


I see Ask bot as a great addition. But independent, we voted for 
"real" forums, so we should work on these as well, of course.


But, that's no criticism towards Askbot - I really like the idea and I 
think it brings great benefit to us.


Florian

Is there a way we can integrate it to pull up forum posts as well. Lets 
say someone search for something and ask bot finds it in the forums is 
it possible to have ask bot link to the forum post for instance?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of askbot - how to deal with different languages

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/28/11 9:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-11-27 21:07:

That's great. Has there been a decision on the package yet? Or are we
ready to vote on the package?


I didn't see any test results so far. What I know is that Alex tried 
phpBB (and was going nuts with it...), maybe he can comment on that. 
If we have no other evaluation results, there seems to be no other 
choice left, IMHO...


Florian


Florian What kind of issues was he having with phpBB?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of askbot - how to deal with different languages

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/28/11 10:52 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-11-28 10:44:

Florian What kind of issues was he having with phpBB?


well, I better not quite him, because he was quite upset. It seems to 
be a mess... but maybe he can tell more.


Florian

I am very interested to talk to him about it. is it possible to contact 
him in a private email?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software (was: Evaluation of phpbb)

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/28/11 5:07 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:56 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions  wrote:

Sounds like phpBB is not going to work.

Yeah... Sounds like a pain in the ass...

May I request to try JForum?

EA (Electronic Arts, the game company) uses it, so it cannot be /that/ bad
http://forum.spore.com/ for example:
Our users have posted a total of 3,597,315 messages
We have 84,182 registered users
Most users ever online was 154,829 on 5/6/11 6:28 AM

user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum for comarison:
Total posts 202761
Total members 45746
Most users ever online was 362 on Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:30 pm"

So scalability should not be a problem for us.

Excerpt from its feature's list:
http://jforum.net/features.jsp
* support for postgresql :-)
* SEO friendly URLs - eg
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/60904.page (also features a
poll)
* supports caching
* supports attachments
* sticky postings/announcements
* moderation support (can set complete categories/Forums to moderated
(i.e. posts appear only after approval)
* locking of threads
* moving of threads
* read-only&  reply-only forums
* default look similar enough to phpBB (also can migrate phpBB forums)
[]

drawback: no mention of openID or similar.

But just looking at comparisons, and looking at a few with the
postgresql as a hard requirement, jForum would be the first I'd try
(yes, it's java, but so is opengrok - and opengrok just is great :-)

ciao
Christian

What about the option of developing our own using the django python web 
framework?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 11/28/11 6:48 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Would you volunteer doing so?

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-11-28 17:30:

What about the option of developing our own using the django python web
framework?


I would be willing to help if we can get a team together or of others 
that are interested in doing such a task.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 09:45, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-11-28 18:52:

I would be willing to help if we can get a team together or of others
that are interested in doing such a task.


I don't want to discourage you, but I think writing our own software 
would be the last choice. It binds a lot of resources we could use 
otherwise, and I guess there must be some good forum software out 
there... ;)


Florian

Not to worry Floria. I have seen in some previous posts mentions of some 
paid forum software, which I get the impression is out of the question. 
Only open source forums I do know is phpbb :-/


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 17:32, drew wrote:

hi,

The current test site user rights are mis-configured so that registered
users can not post content...or at least not in such a way that it
actually is displayed.

and BTW some user named 'rudolf' asked for Forum Admin rights, maybe he
could fix that.

Thanks,

Drew 'the red nosed reigndeer' Jensen :)


If you or anyone has any issues i know how to fix it if need be :) its 
actually very very simple :)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 17:38, drew wrote:

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 17:35 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 29/11/2011 17:32, drew wrote:

hi,

The current test site user rights are mis-configured so that registered
users can not post content...or at least not in such a way that it
actually is displayed.

and BTW some user named 'rudolf' asked for Forum Admin rights, maybe he
could fix that.

Thanks,

Drew 'the red nosed reigndeer' Jensen :)



If you or anyone has any issues i know how to fix it if need be :) its
actually very very simple :)


Well, jump in - the time is now... btw, I've been kicking the tires on
JForum - quite a different beast since last I was active on a JForum
based site ( The old StarOffice forum as jForum based) and for he
better.

//drew



Where can i sign up and request for admin access.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 18:17, drew wrote:

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 18:09 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 29/11/2011 17:38, drew wrote:

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 17:35 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 29/11/2011 17:32, drew wrote:

hi,

The current test site user rights are mis-configured so that registered
users can not post content...or at least not in such a way that it
actually is displayed.

and BTW some user named 'rudolf' asked for Forum Admin rights, maybe he
could fix that.

Thanks,

Drew 'the red nosed reigndeer' Jensen :)



If you or anyone has any issues i know how to fix it if need be :) its
actually very very simple :)


Well, jump in - the time is now... btw, I've been kicking the tires on
JForum - quite a different beast since last I was active on a JForum
based site ( The old StarOffice forum as jForum based) and for he
better.

//drew



Where can i sign up and request for admin access.


JForum: http://forum-test.libreoffice.org:8080/jforum-2.1.9/

phpBB:http://forum-test.libreoffice.org/




I just registerd on the phpbb forum can i get admin rights so i can fix 
the global permissions for the forum


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 18:27, Alexander Werner wrote:

Hi,

Am 29.11.2011 um 18:20 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

I just registerd on the phpbb forum can i get admin rights so i can fix the 
global permissions for the forum

Someone has given rudolf and eagles051387 founder status :)

Cu,
Alex


Thanks I updated the global forum permissions. I gave all global 
moderators full permissions as well. so they can access the back end if 
bans are needed.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 18:44, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 12:27, Alexander Werner a écrit :

Hi,

Am 29.11.2011 um 18:20 schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:
I just registerd on the phpbb forum can i get admin rights so i can 
fix the global permissions for the forum

Someone has given rudolf and eagles051387 founder status :)

Cu,
Alex


Could someone also make me admin? I got kicked from the forums when 
someone was experimenting with the settings. My request for admin 
rights was also not posted on the board.


What is the reasoning behind making someone a "friend" or a "foe"? If 
making someone a "foe" is a negative report, then it should not be 
made that freely available on the forums.


Cheers,

Marc

 Thats my fault marc :( i changed a few settings to global forum 
permissions :(  should work though if your a registered user not sure 
though if permissions get changed globally if a user needs to re 
register but i doubt it. Try again Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 18:49, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

On 29/11/2011 18:44, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 12:27, Alexander Werner a écrit :

[...]
  Thats my fault marc :( i changed a few settings to global forum permissions

Whatever you did - please revert it. You made it a private-forum only.
I.e. not-logged in users see "This board has no forums." But the
statistics at the bottom read:
Total posts 8 • Total topics 7 • Total members 4 • Our newest member marcpare

ciao
Christian


Christian is that better?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian


My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed permissions

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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:06, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 12:44, Marc Paré a écrit :



What is the reasoning behind making someone a "friend" or a "foe"? If 
making someone a "foe" is a negative report, then it should not be 
made that freely available on the forums.


Sorry it's in the FAQ: " If you add a user to your foes list, any 
posts they make will be hidden by default."




Sounds kinda like facebook if you block someone they cant search for you 
or find you.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian


My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed permissions

Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but 
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just 
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use 
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to have 
it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation and get 
people to post in the forums


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:21, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:13, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian

My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed 
permissions


Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but 
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just 
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use 
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to 
have it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation 
and get people to post in the forums


I don't think it really matters. We are trying to make the use of 
forum as easy as possible for our users. This would only be another 
hurdle for newcomers. They would not be able to PM people if they are 
in real need of help.


I notice that JForum PM is on for everyone.

Will ask on the phpbb irc channel and adjust accordingly to make sure 
they are on


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:21, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:13, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian

My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed 
permissions


Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but 
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just 
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use 
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to 
have it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation 
and get people to post in the forums


I don't think it really matters. We are trying to make the use of 
forum as easy as possible for our users. This would only be another 
hurdle for newcomers. They would not be able to PM people if they are 
in real need of help.


I notice that JForum PM is on for everyone.

Marc

Odd i checked the advanced permissions and they should be set for 
registered users to send pm's have to dig some more :(


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 19:21, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:13, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian

My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed 
permissions


Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but 
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just 
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use 
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to 
have it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation 
and get people to post in the forums


I don't think it really matters. We are trying to make the use of 
forum as easy as possible for our users. This would only be another 
hurdle for newcomers. They would not be able to PM people if they are 
in real need of help.


I notice that JForum PM is on for everyone.

Marc


I am at a total loss in regards to getting pms enabled.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test site - Jforum test site

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 20:00, Alexander Werner wrote:

Hi drew,

OpenID on phpbb was not working, so I uninstalled the mod.
I don't know if JForum allows OpenID (or allows extending of the core).
I only read that SMF supports OpenID out of the box, but thats a different 
topic ;)

Cu,
Alex
Can someone take a look at trying to get private messages working for 
all users even newly registered ones as I am at a total loss.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 20:41, drew wrote:

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 19:58 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 29/11/2011 19:21, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:13, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
   wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian


My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed
permissions


Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to
have it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation
and get people to post in the forums


I don't think it really matters. We are trying to make the use of
forum as easy as possible for our users. This would only be another
hurdle for newcomers. They would not be able to PM people if they are
in real need of help.

I notice that JForum PM is on for everyone.

Marc


I am at a total loss in regards to getting pms enabled.


Hi Jonathan, Marc, et al

By default PM's are disabled for the new-registered-users group - of
which Marc is currently a member - you can change this by configuring
group permissions (much much preferred to changing permissions per
user). Also, the platform supports 'roles' and the best practice is to
assign rights to roles and then assign roles to groups - this way, when
there exceptions to be granted they can be done by creating a special
role, change permissions for the new role and then assign that role to
the user account, without changing their group membership.

Also
- I've added you and me into the Admin group, with Alex as the group
lead.

- Also added you into the global moderators group, as the group leader.

//drew


Drew i removed the global permissiosn for newly registered users so 
everyoen should be in the registered users group only


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test stie

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 20:41, drew wrote:

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 19:58 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 29/11/2011 19:21, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:13, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:12, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-11-29 13:04, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

On 29/11/2011 19:02, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
   wrote:

Christian is that better?

Yes, now I can see the posts again. Thanks.

Ciao
Christian


My apologies i forgot to add the guest group to the allowed
permissions


Does PM need turning on for all users? Mine says "*We are sorry, but
you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just
registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use
this feature."*


Not sure actually. wouldnt something like this be a good thing to
have it left as is as it would be a way to encourage participation
and get people to post in the forums


I don't think it really matters. We are trying to make the use of
forum as easy as possible for our users. This would only be another
hurdle for newcomers. They would not be able to PM people if they are
in real need of help.

I notice that JForum PM is on for everyone.

Marc


I am at a total loss in regards to getting pms enabled.


Hi Jonathan, Marc, et al

By default PM's are disabled for the new-registered-users group - of
which Marc is currently a member - you can change this by configuring
group permissions (much much preferred to changing permissions per
user). Also, the platform supports 'roles' and the best practice is to
assign rights to roles and then assign roles to groups - this way, when
there exceptions to be granted they can be done by creating a special
role, change permissions for the new role and then assign that role to
the user account, without changing their group membership.

Also
- I've added you and me into the Admin group, with Alex as the group
lead.

- Also added you into the global moderators group, as the group leader.

//drew


Feel free drew to see what i did in the global permissions and see if 
that makes sense. I am interested in feedback in regards to if those 
global groups are sufficient as well as the permissions for the forums 
as well if those groups have the right permissions setup.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] phpBB test site - Jforum test site

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 29/11/2011 20:52, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Drew, *,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM, drew  wrote:

quick question on the two sites.

Was openID to be included - looking at both sites I fail to see how to
use same?

While JForum has hooks to a signle-sign-on system, one would have to
implement it oneselves - not sure what the state is relating to phpBB.

But openID is not a hard requirement for me personally - I'd rather
have working search, etc. :-)

ciao
Christian

im wondering if we can dump the existing user names and passwords from 
another part of the site into the username and password table of phpbb?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-11-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/11/2011 15:16, Alexander Werner wrote:

Hi Christian, *,

Am 30.11.2011 um 03:08 schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

In both the phpBB as well in the JForum theme (no wonder, as JForum in
large parts just copies the phpBB theme) you got a "search this forum"
box.
http://forum-test.libreoffice.org:8080/jforum-2.3.2/forums/show/1.page
http://forum-test.libreoffice.org/viewforum.php?f=2

So I guess that point is covered, isn't it?

There should be a search box always available, not only just a search this 
forum box.
This is already available in the phpbb theme.
But these are theming details that can be considered later and should be simple 
to fix.


- OpenID would be nice to have, any idea how hard it would be to get a
connector?

If the one linked to in the other message works, then it shouldn't be
rather easy.

There might be the off chance of needing ldap for sso sometime in the future,
a quick google shows that jforum seems to support it.



Phpbb supports LDAP as well. Also one thing i noticed in another part of 
this thread is about spam. Phpbb implements CAPTCHA's out of the box 
they just have to be enabled when registering.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-11-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/11/2011 16:30, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

On 30/11/2011 15:16, Alexander Werner wrote:

Am 30.11.2011 um 03:08 schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

[...] Also one thing i noticed in another part of
this thread is about spam. Phpbb implements CAPTCHA's out of the box they
just have to be enabled when registering.

Ah, JForum supports captchas as well, but the problem with captachs is
that it will also hit regular users, not only spammers.

While one can add the captcha to be on registration only, I don't
think this will help - as the forum is set to require
email-authentication.. But if spam becomes a problem, the captcha can
be activated.

ciao
Christian

I would activate it from the  get go as a preventative measure. at least 
we will be keeping the spam bots out of the site.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF shops (Fw: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Someone wants to setup demo shop with CafePress?)

2011-11-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 01/12/2011 02:02, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Get hats and "polo-style shirts listed there and it would be nice.

And yes, we need design people to make a set of items with the same 
logo/saying/mascot across a full line.  Then do the same with other 
versions.  Funny and Business-like versions.


I have my own website with store done in wordpress. Would it be possible 
to sell merchendise through my own site in regards to libreoffice?


My site is http://eagleeyet.net.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-11-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/11/2011 16:48, drew wrote:

On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 16:32 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

On 30/11/2011 16:30, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
   wrote:

On 30/11/2011 15:16, Alexander Werner wrote:

Am 30.11.2011 um 03:08 schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

[...] Also one thing i noticed in another part of
this thread is about spam. Phpbb implements CAPTCHA's out of the box they
just have to be enabled when registering.

Ah, JForum supports captchas as well, but the problem with captachs is
that it will also hit regular users, not only spammers.

While one can add the captcha to be on registration only, I don't
think this will help - as the forum is set to require
email-authentication.. But if spam becomes a problem, the captcha can
be activated.

ciao
Christian


I would activate it from the  get go as a preventative measure. at least
we will be keeping the spam bots out of the site.


Using Captcha alone is just jumping to the spam arms race - you make a
better captcha, they make a better algorithm to decode it..

Email verification for registrations is both an anti-spam feature, and
also ensures that you can communicate status notifications to the user.

[an aside here, it's a good idea also to have a way for users to contact
site admins (or forum admins depending on the package] not only via the
web interface, but via email - but that is a simple detail in any of the
packages, just tossing it out as I think of it]

ReCaptcha is a better choice IMO then Captcha ... but isn't the only one
- having a non-graphical question that changes can be a very good step
also
- using the known spam address services is good, but you can find
yourself dealing with false positive issues - still, I think it's more
then worth the trade off.

I think this is one feature that you will find pretty much a push across
all packages - meaning they all do it reasonably well, and with the arms
race all will need tweaking over time.

Just my .02 on that.

Looks like that call is coming up in just few minutes - catch you all
there..

//drew



Not trying to hijack this thread is the audio recording from the call 
available yet as i wasnt able to make it :D.


The presentation we had to do for this game competition was a big 
success ended up first place for the 2nd year in a row.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF shops (Fw: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Someone wants to setup demo shop with CafePress?)

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 01/12/2011 10:16, Thorsten Behrens wrote:

Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

I have my own website with store done in wordpress. Would it be
possible to sell merchendise through my own site in regards to
libreoffice?


Hi Jonathan,

unless you're also in the tshirt-printing-business, that wouldn't
make much sense to me.

But help with setting up at the established shops
(cafepress/spreadshirt) greatly appreciated of course!

Cheers,

-- Thorsten
My apologies for the misunderstanding. What threw me was a the subject 
of this mail I was thinking that those that had online stores or 
otherwise would sell products from the cafepress shop on behalf of the 
TDF where all proceeds will go to the tdf on each sale. What can I help 
with :)


Regards

Jonathan Aquilina

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Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 01/12/2011 09:39, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Will be put online soon, probably today ;)

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-12-01 08:20:

Not trying to hijack this thread is the audio recording from the call
available yet as i wasnt able to make it :D.



Thanks for your hard work and dedication Florian :)

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] No we need separate forum-installations for NL-Groups?

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 30/11/2011 18:22, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

as it was raised in the BOD call: Do we need separate forums for the
various NL-Projects like it was/is the case with OOo?

Each language has Writer, Calc, . forums, and a couple of general
ones. Around 10 to 15 forums per language.

This will make the Forum listing quite crowded - and it cannot be
avoided that some languages will appear at the bottom of the page,
while english appears on top...

And while I answered that dedicated categories would work just fine,
thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore. There are just too many
different forums

What's your opinion/proposal for a solution?

Does phpBB support subcategories (JForum does not) - and would that be
a solution? I.e. having a list of languages as categories, and each
category having its own set of subcategories, or having a Writer,
category, and the languages as subcategory.
Both just don't sound right, and the only benefit would be to only
have a single database...

But it would make the "show recent/active posts" useless for a
majority of the users, as German users don't care about that a new
article was posted in the English or French forums...

So better to create separate forums? Even have a mix of forum
software? Let NL-project foo use phpBB, and have NL-project bar use
JForum?

Argh - instead of answering questions, the call did bring a much bigger one ;-)

But at least askbot is settled :-)

ciao
Christian

Subcategories are possible. Sitting here I am thinking why not lets say 
in each section writer, etc we have a sub section for each language. 
Also how many main catagories are goign to be on the forum.


TDF, Writer, Calc, Impress, Base

What others are needed?

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] No we need separate forum-installations for NL-Groups?

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 01/12/2011 13:59, drew wrote:

On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 11:44 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Drew, *,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM, drew  wrote:

Just tossing this out as a point of interest

http://forum.kde.org/

Multi language, single phpBB forum and the KDE guys have made all their
mods available for use under GPL.

But it doesn't seem to have a "show recent posts" functionality.

You must be logged in.

Anyway - another larg-ish (2+ Million posts) phpBB based site is the
joomla forums[1] using sub-forums for languages and quite a few of them.
I'm not a fan of their layout or theme however

Also - the kde site offers some other interesting ideas, particularly
what they did building their own BrainStorm board.[2]

So, even if we did not go with phpBB I think looking at some of these
other sites.

Need to go deal with some 'day job' issues - will come back to this
later.

//drew

ps - any chance to get those language packs installed today?

Regarding language packs alex is the only one who can upload them to the 
server. I had submitted a useful link regarding those to the other 
thread not sure if anyone noticed it.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] No we need separate forum-installations for NL-Groups?

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/1/11 3:18 PM, Alexander Werner wrote:

Hi,

Am 01.12.2011 14:33, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

Regarding language packs alex is the only one who can upload them to the
server. I had submitted a useful link regarding those to the other
thread not sure if anyone noticed it.

I have uploaded all language packs.


Thanks Alex will take a look when i get home this evening


Cu,
Alex





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Re: [libreoffice-website] Forum

2011-12-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 03/12/2011 15:02, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote:

Ok I am testing the new forum at forum-test.libreoffice.org and I have some
questions:

1st) Who is responsible for the translations ? I am part/moderator of the
documentation team for Pt-br and it seems something need to get a little
more "user-friendly" for the Potuguese translations.
All translations have come from the phpbb site as packages. Could you 
elaborate on what you mean by more user friendly.



2nd) Can we have a auto-detect feature to set our localization to the right
language (same as we got in the main libreoffice site) ?
I am not sure but its not a bad idea at all. it will keep the amount of 
clutter on the main forum page and will allow users to see only the 
language they want.




3rd) Can we have instead of showing all the different forum languages in
the main page this page localized and when I want to change this
localization we whould have a dropdown menu on the page (similar to other
projects)? This way it will become less cumbersome in the long run (imagine
100 languages listed in the main page)


See above


4th) When the migration to production occurs will the messages be migrated?
This will determine the level of acuracy / comitment people will be
incentivated to achieve in this testing envirorment.


If I am not mistaken the forums will go live as is, but if we opt we can 
remove the testing posts that are already there.




Thanks

Rogerio.




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Forum

2011-12-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 03/12/2011 15:34, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote:

2011/12/3 Jonathan Aquilina


On 03/12/2011 15:02, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote:


Ok I am testing the new forum at forum-test.libreoffice.org and I have
some
questions:

1st) Who is responsible for the translations ? I am part/moderator of the
documentation team for Pt-br and it seems something need to get a little
more "user-friendly" for the Potuguese translations.


All translations have come from the phpbb site as packages. Could you
elaborate on what you mean by more user friendly.



Well it seems the welcome messages (e-mail) and the messages we see when
registering are made in European Portuguese (pt), but the majority of users
of LibO are Brazilian (pt-br) so it seems we are seeing something written
by some uptight grandfather ... no errors, just feels ugly. But that is
biased, when a pt speaker reads a pt-br site he feels some uneasiness also.
Just wondering IF it would be possible for a future fix on these
interfaces.
This is a very interesting though. Are we going to open up the existing 
phpbb translations to be improved by the l10n team and translators that 
want to translate the already existing translations and improve on them?





  2nd) Can we have a auto-detect feature to set our localization to the

right
language (same as we got in the main libreoffice site) ?


I am not sure but its not a bad idea at all. it will keep the amount of
clutter on the main forum page and will allow users to see only the
language they want.

Yep





3rd) Can we have instead of showing all the different forum languages in
the main page this page localized and when I want to change this
localization we whould have a dropdown menu on the page (similar to other
projects)? This way it will become less cumbersome in the long run
(imagine
100 languages listed in the main page)


See above


Well, there is a difference in these features, but its theoretical, I can
see that the best solution would be to change them both obviously :)




  4th) When the migration to production occurs will the messages be

migrated?
This will determine the level of acuracy / comitment people will be
incentivated to achieve in this testing envirorment.


If I am not mistaken the forums will go live as is, but if we opt we can
remove the testing posts that are already there.

Oh, I prefer it to go live with the posts that are there already, just

asking so I can *SPREAD THE WORD* ... :)


It still to early we are still in testing phase. Do we have a time frame 
for the forums to go live?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Forum decision - where do we stand? An attempt of a summary...

2011-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/7/11 3:18 PM, Terrence Enger wrote:

Is osqa off the table, then?




What is osqa? Could you tell us a bit more about it?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Forum decision - where do we stand? An attempt of a summary...

2011-12-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 08/12/2011 03:13, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote:

IF ... and this is a big IF ... we would let each NL team decide on what
forum based site they want?

In this way TDF would get to expand itself without the major PITA of having
to do all the choosing and all the admning by itself. We could set up some
king of support for the NL teams to set things up?

Rogerio
I see a big problem with that as we will end up with a wide variety of 
forums and having to support them will be a nightmare having to be 
familiar with the various packages that the groups will choose.




2011/12/7 Marc Paré


Le 2011-12-07 18:30, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

  Thanks for your input.

I wonder how to get feedback from a wider user-base. After all people
did complain loudly in the past that there is no forum, demanded that
we set one up as soon as possible - and when it comes to making a
decision, we fail to reach those users.

It's hard to tell people to use a demo-installation/something where
they cannot expect a real answer and that (because it is a
demo/testing setup), doesn't have the final theming and language
setup... (I'm afraid that people will just vote for phpBB because it
matches the LO theme and not because they like the concept better - if
people prefer phpBB but would like separate forums, this could be done
as well, this after all is the structure that OOo uses)

ciao
Christian


The NL group leaders (these are the people who are most often seen and
easily identified as the leaders on the respective NL mailing lists) should
be the ones who should be taking this information back to the various NL
groups for discussion and return a summary of the group's decision. There
is also the fact that some NL groups may already have a dedicated forums
hosted outside of the TDF/LibreOffice zone of influence who may prefer to
keep their forums intact and not be included in the list of LibreOffice run
forums.

I wonder if this will also be taken into account or has there been a
decision from the higher ups (BoD)  that the official LibreOffice NL forums
will be hosted on the TDF/LibreOffice forums? Unless I am mistaken, this is
the stance that was taken with the mailing lists -- all official
LibreOffice mailing lists are hosted and maintained on LibreOffice servers.
Is this what is being set up? Are we choosing the software (JForum or
phpBBJ based on the assumption that the official LibreOffice forums will
only be run on/by LibreOffice [servers]? If this is the case, then we
should try to send a note to all of the NL groups and wait for feedback. I
someone is to send a note to the NL groups then it should be from someone
from the BoD to make it more of an official request.

Cheers,


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: first spam in (phpBB)-test forum?

2011-12-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 13/12/2011 02:46, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

SNIP


Please - if it is already that bad in the test-installation, how bad 
will it be with the real one? The users are very likely automatically 
generated, since they all seem to have their birthday on the 
registration date. The captcha is worthless. Whether it is bypassed by 
human spammers or solved/bypassed by software or by a bug in phpBB 
doesn't matter - spammers come through already. ciao Christian 


I have used email verification in mine and it does help to keep spam 
down in addition to using the captcha. To be honest if these measures 
are in place it will really keep the spam to a virtually non existent 
level. We need to ensure email verification is setup as well as when the 
forums go live. We will still get the occasional spam but it will be 
very low.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: first spam in (phpBB)-test forum?

2011-12-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 13/12/2011 03:26, Olav Dahlum wrote:

On 13/12/11 02:46, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Alex, *,

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier
  wrote:

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier
  wrote:

Hard to tell whether it is spam or just a testpost.. If it is spam,
then at least a "nice" variant.
http://forum-test.libreoffice.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=20

So phpBB forum now really did gather some spam.

The (IMHO) hard-to-solve (from the view of  a human) doesn't really
work. Please change it to email-verification mode.

Please - if it is already that bad in the test-installation, how bad
will it be with the real one?
The users are very likely automatically generated, since they all seem
to have their birthday on the registration date.

The captcha is worthless. Whether it is bypassed by human spammers or
solved/bypassed by software or by a bug in phpBB doesn't matter -
spammers come through already.

ciao
Christian


Did you look into the alternatives for the default solution?

http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/modifications/anti-spam-9/

Something like http://www.peoplesign.com/main/officialDemo.html is
interesting, but not quite the solution if users have certain disabilities.
http://mollom.com/ on the other hand offers a completely automated service
keeping the spammers
out. Unfortunately there's no obvious plugin for phpBB, but there' several
developer libraries available at http://mollom.com/download. As an example
this WordPress driven site http://educoo.no/?page_id=10 (previously also
did Joomla and Drupal for other projects) use it. As you can see there's no
CAPTCHA when you're commenting, but there's no spam either.

Olav

In regards to wordpress captchas there are plugins im using one myself 
actually on my site but that is off topic here. Another thing we have to 
ensure with the CAPTCHA's is that they are set to the highest level of 
complexity possible. this adds another layer of difficulty for those 
trying to sign up to spam the forums.


Also we coudl make CAPTCHA's required to post to the forums each new thread.


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[libreoffice-website] Nagios Web Admin Interface

2011-12-14 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I spoke to florian and I was told Nagios infrastructure monitoring was 
being setup. Nagiosql is a web based admin panel to setup hosts and 
services to monitor. Also to have checks done via snmp the snmp port 
needs to be opened on all servers that you want monitored.


If any help is needed please let me know :)

Also Florian I dont know if you want me to setup monitoring on my end in 
case the server that the TDF has nagios on goes down you will still get 
alerts from my setup.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Nagios Web Admin Interface

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 15/12/2011 19:51, cra...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

We have a Nagios instance already deployed on one of the servers and
configured it to check rest of the machines via NRPE daemon.

Main configuration of the instance (packages needed to be installed,
config files to be updated, username and passwords for the web
interface, etc.) and the specific configuration of the firewall + NRPE
instance for each monitored machine is done automatically via puppet.

Although some basic set of checks have been already configured and
deployed (via puppet) I'm still looking to identify specific
services/resources that need to be monitored on each server and the
appropriate thresholds for "warning" and "critical" status that should
be set for these resources.

If there are specific services running on servers managed by the TDF
admin team and those services/resources need to be monitored, please do
not hesitate to let us know about them so we can take the necessary
action in order to include them in the regular checks done by Nagios.

Regards,
Alin Cret,u


What you want to monitor is up to the network admins. With nagios thats 
the beauty you arent limited to what you can monitor.


Some checks that might be useful would be to

Network traffic: Set critical notification at 80% and 70% for warning. 
That way a load balancer can then be setup to balance the load. I think 
that is the biggest thing to monitor that I can think of right now.
Hard Disk Space: I would sent the same warnings for this. That way you 
will now that TDF servers need more hard drive space and an upgrade is 
necessary, or another hard disk.

Ram Usage: Same settings as above as well as same reason.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Nagios Web Admin Interface

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 16/12/2011 10:54, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

cra...@gmail.com wrote on 2011-12-15 19:51:

Although some basic set of checks have been already configured and
deployed (via puppet) I'm still looking to identify specific
services/resources that need to be monitored on each server and the
appropriate thresholds for "warning" and "critical" status that should
be set for these resources.


it's still on my todo to identify those, didn't forget about you. Just 
had no time so far. :/


Florian

I hope what I have identified for you Florian is a start :). If it helps 
if you tell me what you have running and the servers etc I might be able 
to provide some more check.


Another one which is i would say essential to check is the gateway used 
by the servers that way if a server goes offline or there is a network 
issue it can be resolved quickly



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Nagios Web Admin Interface

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 16/12/2011 11:02, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-12-16 11:00:


I hope what I have identified for you Florian is a start :). If it helps
if you tell me what you have running and the servers etc I might be able
to provide some more check.


thanks a lot, really appreciated! I want to configure the provider 
monitoring (uses a simple interface where we cannot configure in 
detail), and I wanted to update our list of servers and services 
anyways in the next days, so "between the years" I hopefully have a 
list of things to monitor, that I then can also share with you, so you 
can optimize it.


Thanks again!
Florian

At the moment I am fighting permissions issues with nagiosql on ubuntu 
10.04 server I will keep you guys posted so that way you wont have any 
headaches as I am encountering with nagios ql :(


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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice.XX some sites do not work

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 12/16/11 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-12-15 05:39:


How many registration 2-digit country codes do we need?

One for every country or language that LO supports?

One for every country that has a group large enough to support its own
2-digit code?

Is there any "rulings" on who gets to have a LibreOffice.xx domain?


there are currently no fixed rules. The basic rule, although it sounds 
harsh, is: We own the trademark, so better ask us before you register 
anything. ;-)


What we did in the past is that many people were so kind to register 
domains with LibreOffice or TDF upon our agreement. They either 
connected our DNS servers directly, or forwarded to our website, and 
agreed to transfer the domain name to TDF upon our request.


For many countries, we cannot directly own the domain name, since you 
often need to be a resident of or incorporated in that country to be 
eligible for a registration.


We have registered quite a few domain names on our own, but of course 
not for all countries.


Hope that helps a bit,
Florian

I think the easiest solution for those domains not being able to be 
owned why not point the domains to the TDF name servers and that way the 
TDF will have control over the DNS entries even if the domain isnt owned 
by the TDF?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice.XX some sites do not work

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

SNIP
I think the easiest solution for those domains not being able to be 
owned why not point the domains to the TDF name servers and that way 
the TDF will have control over the DNS entries even if the domain 
isnt owned by the TDF?


Regards

Jonathan Aquilina


Well, someone will have to own them.  But having your owned domain 
name point to someone else's owned domain, might not be either able to 
be done or not quite legal.  I know that if I create a domain with my 
registration service, they will not let me point it to any domain that 
is not my own.  [Or not make it easy for someone to do it, since I did 
not see how on their site].


Does TDF own a dedicated IP address and DNS server reference IP 
address that belongs to them alone?  If so, maybe it could happen with 
your description.




It seems like the TDF is using name servers provided by the data center 
where they rent their servers from. These are the results of an NSLookup 
i did on the TDF domain.


thedocumentfoundation.org. 86400 INNSrobotns3.second-ns.com.
thedocumentfoundation.org. 86400 INNSrobotns2.second-ns.de.
thedocumentfoundation.org. 86400 INNSns1.first-ns.de.

I will have to do some more digging when I get back to the USA. I am 
curious though if i have a .com.mt domain now if i can have the 
registrar where i bought the domain from use different name servers then 
they provide. I honestly dont see why it cannot be done so that the TDF 
will have control over the DNS entries for a particular country domain.


Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice infrastructure Linux/Unix system administrator

2012-01-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
On 16/01/2012 09:14, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello Dmitry,
>
> Dmitry Korzhevin wrote on 2011-12-29 17:08:
>> I want to offer my help for the LibreOffice project and take part in
>> tasks of administration and support of server infrastructure for all
>> projects related to LibreOffice. I can support Linux/Unix servers, take
>> part in monitoring, configuration and troubleshooting.
>
> thank you very much for your kind offer, and sorry for my late reply -
> I was on vacation.
>
> Your resume indeed sounds very interesting, and I would be glad to
> work with you. While at the moment, we don't need new members of the
> "core" team, i.e. those with full root access to all machines, it
> would be gread to start working with you, to get to know each other,
> and then gradually work on involving you more and more.
>
> What are your special areas of interest?
>
> There are at least two areas of working that come to my mind, where we
> always need help: One is the moderation of mailing lists, and the
> other one is working on our website, like editing content, adding new
> users and so on. We are also in need of wiki administrators, fighting
> spam and checking edits, answering user questions.
>
> I understand that for someone with qualifications as yours, this might
> be a a too easy task, but I think it would be ideal to serve as a
> starter, to get to know each other, and gradually work together.
>
> What do you think, would these be areas you are interested in?
>
> Thanks again for your proposal and interest, would be great to have
> you on board!
>
> Florian
>
I too am interested in helping out. I know there was a discussion in
regards to forums which i havent seen any activity on in a while. I
would love to admin the forums once those come to fruition.

Regards

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[libreoffice-website] Status of forums

2012-01-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Hey guys I havent seen any updates regarding forums. I would love to 
volunteer to help admin them. Also I would recommend before actually 
opening the boards we ensure proper dns black lists are used. As I got 
spammed by about 300 spammers on mine and im tediously banning them. 
Seems like Captcha isnt enough in regards to phpbb.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Status of forums

2012-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 17/01/2012 10:07, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-01-16 09:48:

Hey guys I havent seen any updates regarding forums. I would love to
volunteer to help admin them. Also I would recommend before actually
opening the boards we ensure proper dns black lists are used. As I got
spammed by about 300 spammers on mine and im tediously banning them.
Seems like Captcha isnt enough in regards to phpbb.


thanks for your offer and help! IMHO, Christian and Alex want to 
deploy the forums officially soon, and your help would be appreciated.


Christian, Alex, can one of you send a follow-up on where we stand and 
which software will be used?


Thanks,
Florian


Was phpbb decided on in conjunction with askbot?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice infrastructure Linux/Unix system administrator

2012-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 

On 17/01/2012 10:08, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-01-16 09:44:

I too am interested in helping out. I know there was a discussion in
regards to forums which i havent seen any activity on in a while. I
would love to admin the forums once those come to fruition.


thanks a lot for volunteering! Indeed, the forum, as soon as it is 
deployed, can need some moderators, and someone regularly updating it 
etc. If you re interested, that would be great.


Florian

For sure I am. in regards to the forums and probably even ask bot if 
both of those were decided to be used would work best in a virtual 
environment.


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