Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Nice putrid spew of FUD regarding 3Ware cards. Regarding the SuperMicro 8-port SATA PCI-X card, yes, that is a good recommendation. -=dave - Original Message - From: Rob Windsor To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support 3ware cards do not work (as previously specified). Even in linux/windows, they're pretty flaky -- if you had Solaris drivers, you'd probably shoot yourself in a month anyway. I'm using the SuperMicro aoc-sat2-mv8 at the recommendation of someone else on this list. It's a JBOD card, which is perfect for ZFS. Also, you won't be paying for RAID functionality that you're wanting to disable anyway. Rob++___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
On 2/13/08, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using the Supermicro in Solaris or OpenSolaris? Which version? 64 bit or 32 bits? I'm asking because I recently went through a number of SCSI cards that are in the HCL as supported, but do not have 64 bit drivers. So they only work in 32 bit mode. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss 64bit (amd opteron), both solaris and opensolaris. Solaris 10u4, and opensolaris from b68 onwards. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Are you using the Supermicro in Solaris or OpenSolaris? Which version? 64 bit or 32 bits? I'm asking because I recently went through a number of SCSI cards that are in the HCL as supported, but do not have 64 bit drivers. So they only work in 32 bit mode. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Tom Buskey wrote: Are you using the Supermicro in Solaris or OpenSolaris? Which version? 64 bit or 32 bits? I'm asking because I recently went through a number of SCSI cards that are in the HCL as supported, but do not have 64 bit drivers. So they only work in 32 bit mode. Solaris-10/0807 32-bit (pentium-4) Rob++ -- Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __o Life: [EMAIL PROTECTED]_`\,_ (_)/ (_) They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance. -- Major General John Sedgwick ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Le mardi 12 février 2008 à 07:22 +0100, Johan Kooijman a écrit : Goodmorning all, Hi, can anyone confirm that 3ware raid controllers are indeed not working under Solaris/OpenSolaris? I can't seem to find it in the HCL. I do confirm they don't work We're now using a 3Ware 9550SX as a S-ATA RAID controller. The original plan was to disable all it's RAID functions and use justs the S-ATA controller functionality for ZFS deployment. If indeed 3Ware isn't support, I have to buy a new controller. Any specific controller/brand you can recommend for Solaris? I use Areca cards, with the driver supplied by Areca (certified in the HCL) Have a nice day, -- Nicolas Szalay Administrateur systèmes réseaux -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X vCards / \ signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Jason J. W. Williams wrote: X4500 problems seconded. Still having issues with port resets due to the Marvell driver. Though they seem considerably more transient and less likely to lock up the entire systems in the most recent ( b72) OpenSolaris builds. Build 72 is pretty old. The build date for that build was August 27, 2007. It looks like build 75 should have been pretty good (October 8, 2007), but for absolute, most up-to-date stuff you want build 84 (which will be in a build on February 25, 2008). The source code changes are already visible in OpenSolaris and the marvell88sx binary is likewise down loadable (I wish I could provide the source, but Marvell says no). Please try something more recent than over 5 months old. Regards, Lida -J On Feb 12, 2008 9:35 AM, Carson Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim wrote: A much cheaper (and probably the BEST supported card), is the supermicro based on the marvell chipset. This is the same chipset that is used in the thumper x4500 so you know that the folks at sun are doing their due diligence to make sure the drivers are solid. Except the drivers _aren't_ solid, at least in Solaris(tm). The OpenSolaris drivers may have been fixed (I know a lot of work is going into them, but I haven't tested them), but those fixes have not made it back into the supported realm. So if you need to run a supported OS, I'd skip the Marvell chips if possible, at least for now. -- Carson ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
X4500 problems seconded. Still having issues with port resets due to the Marvell driver. Though they seem considerably more transient and less likely to lock up the entire systems in the most recent ( b72) OpenSolaris builds. -J On Feb 12, 2008 9:35 AM, Carson Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim wrote: A much cheaper (and probably the BEST supported card), is the supermicro based on the marvell chipset. This is the same chipset that is used in the thumper x4500 so you know that the folks at sun are doing their due diligence to make sure the drivers are solid. Except the drivers _aren't_ solid, at least in Solaris(tm). The OpenSolaris drivers may have been fixed (I know a lot of work is going into them, but I haven't tested them), but those fixes have not made it back into the supported realm. So if you need to run a supported OS, I'd skip the Marvell chips if possible, at least for now. -- Carson ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Carson Gaspar wrote: Tim wrote: A much cheaper (and probably the BEST supported card), is the supermicro based on the marvell chipset. This is the same chipset that is used in the thumper x4500 so you know that the folks at sun are doing their due diligence to make sure the drivers are solid. Except the drivers _aren't_ solid, at least in Solaris(tm). The OpenSolaris drivers may have been fixed (I know a lot of work is going into them, but I haven't tested them), but those fixes have not made it back into the supported realm. So if you need to run a supported OS, I'd skip the Marvell chips if possible, at least for now. Does this mean that support still has not provided you with working code? I am surprised if that is true. I do not know of any reason why this should be the case. If you have not been given fixed code I think you should escalate up the support chain. Further, if more customers push for getting the latest changes that are in OpenSolaris into Solaris 10, the more likely it is that the individuals responsible for evaluating what should be back ported to Solaris 10 will accept those changes. Regards and sympathy, Lida ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Johan Kooijman wrote: Goodmorning all, can anyone confirm that 3ware raid controllers are indeed not working under Solaris/OpenSolaris? I can't seem to find it in the HCL. We're now using a 3Ware 9550SX as a S-ATA RAID controller. The original plan was to disable all it's RAID functions and use justs the S-ATA controller functionality for ZFS deployment. If indeed 3Ware isn't support, I have to buy a new controller. Any specific controller/brand you can recommend for Solaris? 3ware cards do not work (as previously specified). Even in linux/windows, they're pretty flaky -- if you had Solaris drivers, you'd probably shoot yourself in a month anyway. I'm using the SuperMicro aoc-sat2-mv8 at the recommendation of someone else on this list. It's a JBOD card, which is perfect for ZFS. Also, you won't be paying for RAID functionality that you're wanting to disable anyway. Rob++ -- Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __o Life: [EMAIL PROTECTED]_`\,_ (_)/ (_) They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance. -- Major General John Sedgwick ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Tim wrote: A much cheaper (and probably the BEST supported card), is the supermicro based on the marvell chipset. This is the same chipset that is used in the thumper x4500 so you know that the folks at sun are doing their due diligence to make sure the drivers are solid. Except the drivers _aren't_ solid, at least in Solaris(tm). The OpenSolaris drivers may have been fixed (I know a lot of work is going into them, but I haven't tested them), but those fixes have not made it back into the supported realm. So if you need to run a supported OS, I'd skip the Marvell chips if possible, at least for now. -- Carson ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
On 2/12/08, Johan Kooijman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goodmorning all, can anyone confirm that 3ware raid controllers are indeed not working under Solaris/OpenSolaris? I can't seem to find it in the HCL. We're now using a 3Ware 9550SX as a S-ATA RAID controller. The original plan was to disable all it's RAID functions and use justs the S-ATA controller functionality for ZFS deployment. If indeed 3Ware isn't support, I have to buy a new controller. Any specific controller/brand you can recommend for Solaris? -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman T +31(0) 6 43 44 45 27 F +31(0) 76 201 1179 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss Johan, A much cheaper (and probably the BEST supported card), is the supermicro based on the marvell chipset. This is the same chipset that is used in the thumper x4500 so you know that the folks at sun are doing their due diligence to make sure the drivers are solid. It's also much cheaper than almost all RAID based alternatives to boot. If you aren't using the raid functionality, don't waste your money on a raid card :) http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AoC-SAT2-MV8.cfm Here's where I purchased mine from, but I'm guessing you are not in the US and they don't ship to your country of origin. http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AOC-SAT2MVc=frpid=84b59337aa4414aa488fdf95dfd0de1a1e2a21528d6d2fbf89732c9ed77b72a4 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Nicolas Szalay wrote: Le mardi 12 février 2008 à 07:22 +0100, Johan Kooijman a écrit : Goodmorning all, Hi, can anyone confirm that 3ware raid controllers are indeed not working under Solaris/OpenSolaris? I can't seem to find it in the HCL. I do confirm they don't work We're now using a 3Ware 9550SX as a S-ATA RAID controller. The original plan was to disable all it's RAID functions and use justs the S-ATA controller functionality for ZFS deployment. If indeed 3Ware isn't support, I have to buy a new controller. Any specific controller/brand you can recommend for Solaris? I use Areca cards, with the driver supplied by Areca (certified in the HCL) I'm working on getting arcmsr integrated into OpenSolaris, and I hope to integrate it into build 87. The RFE is 6614012 add Areca SAS/SATA RAID adapter driver PSARC 2008/079 arcmsr SAS/SATA RAID driver The existing case materials (spec and manpage) should be visible on www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc cheers James C. McPherson -- Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris Sun Microsystems http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] 3ware support
Goodmorning all, can anyone confirm that 3ware raid controllers are indeed not working under Solaris/OpenSolaris? I can't seem to find it in the HCL. We're now using a 3Ware 9550SX as a S-ATA RAID controller. The original plan was to disable all it's RAID functions and use justs the S-ATA controller functionality for ZFS deployment. If indeed 3Ware isn't support, I have to buy a new controller. Any specific controller/brand you can recommend for Solaris? -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman T +31(0) 6 43 44 45 27 F +31(0) 76 201 1179 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
