Sometimes sh*t happens.
The Level3 we have for one of our ASNs was flaking out regularly from a
faulty linecard in MSP a few months back.
Last summer the HE we have on the other ASN was going down for 6-12 hours
at a time multiple times per week for a month because their POP transport
was a single
: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:36:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Yap, they were not down ,just high latency going though LAX.. issue is LOTS of
traffic goes though IAX.
Thanks,
Dennis Burgess – Network En
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Sad, so sad. But I'm going to have the best routes, believe me. And Cogent is
going to pay for them. Okay
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
They were back yesterday evening from my observation.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.c
0, 2016 10:05:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Is Cogent still down or limping along?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen < se...@rollernet.us > wrote:
On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Co
20, 2016 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Is Cogent still down or limping along?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen
<se...@rollernet.us<mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Charter doesn't have communities you
Is Cogent still down or limping along?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Cogent?
>>
>
>
> Oh probably, but we're dropping Charter anyway in a
On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Cogent?
Oh probably, but we're dropping Charter anyway in a couple months.
~Seth
Sad, so sad. But I'm going to have the best routes, believe me. And Cogent is
going to pay for them. Okay?
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
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> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8
om
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
This is what petrifies me about bgp. Right now, half our static allocation hits
cogent directly, the other half doesnt, at least we don't have to worry about
50% directly.
Other than dropping the cogent peer, wha
t know about
> latency, packet loss, etc. without tweaking by a human or robot.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
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>
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>
They haven’t changed and from my perspective this is nothing new… this is where
i use the saying of “vote with your wallets” and something about choosing
providers based on price ;) Yeah I know … all providers have issues but I find
typically the cheaper transit guys have *more* problems …just
It would be.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:56:09 PM
Subject: Re
, September 19, 2016 8:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Not required, but typically going along with full routes is access to BGP
communities. You could fine-tune both what you advertise, what you accept and
what your upstreams pass along. You don't have to drop the peer entirely
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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:21:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
So much for the people who believe
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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:36:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
Part of "SDN" (vomit.. I can't believe I just used that acronym), is knowing
what the options are first.
1 For that you need BGP.
2 Then you need some way of performance testing m
There is an outages email list...
On Sep 19, 2016 3:48 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote:
> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on all
> their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems with
> financial transactions ( IP CC
ay, September 19, 2016 6:03:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote:
> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on
> all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems
> with financial transactions
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From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:58:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing issues
Part of "SDN" (vomit.. I can't believe I just used that acronym), is
knowing what the options are first.
1 For that you need BGP.
2 Then you need some way of performance testing multiple paths from various
points.
Then you need to use information from 1 & 2 to programmatically select
$bestPath
On 9/19/16 17:21, Ken Hohhof wrote:
So much for the people who believe taking full BGP routes will automatically choose the
best routes. (Why does "best routes" sound like something Trump would say?)
Latency or loss isn't part of the best path selection algorithm, so
anyone who expects
19, 2016 6:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...
On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote:
> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on
> all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having
> problems with financial transactions ( IP C
How is cogent still operating at the level they do. It's like I'm the guy
in charge of their network.
On Sep 19, 2016 6:03 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote:
> On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote:
>
>> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on
>> all
On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote:
Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on
all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems
with financial transactions ( IP CC readers ) failing and connectivity
to Citrix and such failing.. IS this the
Theres something in LA that one of our providers notified us of
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
> I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing
> issues again .. they had issues the other day too …
>
> I was talking with someone
I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing issues
again .. they had issues the other day too …
I was talking with someone a few minutes ago that was seeing LA to Chicago
traffic going via Europe and weird stuff like that…
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Robert Andrews
Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on
all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems
with financial transactions ( IP CC readers ) failing and connectivity
to Citrix and such failing.. IS this the new world order?
Robert
ent but they don’t any
> longer. At the time, we met most of their requirements though (but not all)…
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: July 2, 2016 2:34 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
>
> I would als
Hammett
Sent: July 2, 2016 2:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
I would also like to point out that very few networks on this list (I'm
surprised you are) would have the scale to peer with Cogent. I ws referring to
using BGP communities to limit one's Cogent transit
NDA’s in effect so can’t post specific numbers …
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: July 2, 2016 6:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
I agree, Cogent does not want a PNI they want to sell you their transit and
don't care what you do
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From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:34:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
Not sure what there is to take advantage of … we prefer peering always ov
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From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:34:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
Not sure what there is to take advantage
transit
traffic continues to decline at a very noticeable rate
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: July 2, 2016 11:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
The number of large outages Telia has had in the US in the past few months is
staggering
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: July 2, 2016 8:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent, given the
scale of their network.
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From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to buy
t
: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out “issues”. They
have a shitload of the internet as directly connected customers.
-PK
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> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:52:04 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent
> Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a p
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> Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad,
> ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well.
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From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent
Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a
I would never use them. Ever. I have a upstream issue with them on my
Centurlylink circuit. Those 2 idiots have been arguing on that peer agreement
for 6 months now.
Craig Schmaderer
Cell 402-380-1245
Skywave Wireless, Inc.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:29 PM -0500, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
our upstream dumped them
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for
> large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with
> other large tier-1/2 ISPs.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul
Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for
large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with
other large tier-1/2 ISPs.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with
Service changes take forever. Sales runs everything. 14% of our routes have
a best hop to them, others to HE. (Telia added soon)
On Jul 1, 2016 5:52 PM, "Jason McKemie"
wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad,
> ugly? I
Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad,
ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well.
-Jason
What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?
Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC
On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?
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$700-1k
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC
On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?
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Should be able to get it around $700-750
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:
$700-1k
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC
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