Mark I don't appreciate how you want to make yourself appear high and mighty
and unbiased but at the end you say "Please, everyone, stop feeding the
trolls." as if you could never consider the possiblity that I'm anything but.
really hurts even coming from a stranger.
25. Mar 2017 15:31 by m
I could say the exact same things about you. I invite everyone to read the
entire history of all the emails I have been a part of. you can clearly see my
good intent and where I'm coming from. you haven't seen the horrors that I've
seen. you haven't seen what agents looks like. they have torn ap
How dare you call me a troll. because you disagree with me? you only seek to
discredit me because you don't like what I say. you're nothing different than
an internet social justice warrior. please do not message me again.
24. Mar 2017 22:08 by m...@netris.org:
> Go away troll, or else I'll ta
Jens Lody writes:
> As long as others answer to your mails (as I do at the moment), it's
> not possible to "mark you as spam". To much broken threads would be the
> result.
>
> You behave like a classical agent provocateur and if I would follow you
> own arguments, I could say you are a NSA agent
Am Sat, 25 Mar 2017 00:19:53 +0100 (CET)
schrieb :
> oh, playing nice now? I knew you wouldn't mark me as spam. you want
> to continue this game, what a surprise.
>
You "argue" as if you want to make as much users move away from icecat.
You spam this mailing list in a way, that might discourage p
asleepyet wrote:
"everyone = me?" me me or you me? please clarify.
I meant me but now I'm not the only one...
-but they all fail to mention the important details like how extremely slow
it is
I'm sure they would welcome your expert engineering skills if you'd like to
join the project.
it's
Go away troll, or else I'll take steps to ban you from this list.
This is your final warning.
Mark
writes:
> I see what you're doing here, you're playing game of questions with me
> and being very evasive while pretending to have no idea what I am
> talking about, while also simultaneous
oh, playing nice now? I knew you wouldn't mark me as spam. you want to continue
this game, what a surprise.
24. Mar 2017 18:59 by onp...@riseup.net:
>
> I'm afraid I won't argue with unsubstantiated speculation. However, if you
> would like to answer the questions I have asked, that will get u
I'm afraid I won't argue with unsubstantiated speculation. However, if you
would like to answer the questions I have asked, that will get us on track
toward a proper debate based on evidence.
--
Julie Marchant
https://onpon4.github.io
On Mar 24, 2017 6:41 PM, awake...@tutanota.de wrote:
>
> I s
"everyone = me?" me me or you me? please clarify.
-but they all fail to mention the important details like how extremely slow it
is
"it has many layers -- like an onion."
Oh yea Donkeh lets hang out at mah Swamp woo lets get all Shrek in here
(because that's a good explanation and suddenly ma
I see what you're doing here, you're playing game of questions with me and
being very evasive while pretending to have no idea what I am talking about,
while also simultaneously giving yourself the unfounded excuse to back up your
own flawed argument that "I'm wrong" for "no mentioned facts or r
asleepyet wrote:
> I love it how everyone is mentioning TOR
everyone = me
> but they all fail to mention the important details like how extremely slow it
> is,
it has many layers -- like an onion.
> the lack of functionality,
it's just a network. what extra functionality are you hoping to ad
On 03/24/2017 07:09 AM, awake...@tutanota.de wrote:
> I point out your missteps in logic
Where did you do this, and what "missteps in logic" are you talking about?
> you suddenly shift your argument if I may call it that to the opposite of
> what you appeared to originally intend to say.
What d
I keep trying to look but there's alot of trouble in the way. I personally
consider it very unwise to put a smile on in this sort of moment and pretend
everything is fine when there are clearly unresolved issues. turning away from
the problem and allowing it to grow would be like ignoring the fa
I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying but it isn't as simple as need
and availability with users and icecat.
we are like the rebels in starwars. giant corporations and their own search
engines and browsers outnumber us and icecat like 20 deathstars to an xwing and
a few people who pay
I love it how everyone is mentioning TOR but they all fail to mention the
important details like how extremely slow it is, the lack of functionality, and
how many times it has been compromised. thanks for the suggestion but I'm very
proud of what the creators of icecat have done.
19. Mar 2017 1
So others are allowed to make points, but if I dare make a point that threatens
their logic, and pops their percieved bubble of safety, I'm suddenly a "classic
troll".
I mention gamergate as well as other things because they are related. I doesn't
take much effort to understand how truly conne
I find it very convenient that as soon as I point out your missteps in logic
you suddenly shift your argument if I may call it that to the opposite of what
you appeared to originally intend to say. while you seem to want to disagree
with what I say, you don't actually want to provide a logical a
Absolutely right. Everyone should calm down and look at the common
greater good. Thank you for your appreciative words.
Oh, and to everyone who helped to develop Icecat and other open source
software: THANK YOU, YOU PEOPLE ARE AWESOME.
Am 20.03.17 um 16:13 schrieb b...@shroggslodge.freeserv
Until now I've resisted on commenting on this little Icecat family fall-out
between some of the family members :-)
I can see some reason in all the points being made from all parties - some
perhaps more plausible/evidential/or whatever, than others.
For my two-penneth single point gut-feeling vi
I see what you're saying, awakeyet. From a certain perspective, you make
perfect sense. Attempting to bog down the maintainer of a project like GNU
IceCat to try and take it down is something I could see a competitor doing. I
won't argue that there are rotten people that do pull shady, petty
+1
El 19/03/17 a les 01:18, Julie Marchant ha escrit:
> Libre software is about freedom to control your computing, not freedom
> to choose a proprietary OS. The FSF supports compiling for Windows
> because it helps users to transition to libre software.
>
> Attacking users for making a bad decisi
On Mar 19, 2017, at 11:34 AM, awakeyet wrote:
>
> what browser may you suggest other security and privacy conscious users use
> in the place of IceCat
there is a project that is even more privacy conscious...
"Tor Browser lets you use Tor on Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux without needing to
insta
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 19:34:28 awake...@tutanota.de wrote:
>> "Also, even the FSF supports building software for Windows."
> yes yes and linux has systemd. truly imperfect world we live in.
awake...@tutanota.de, julie is making a pertinent point: no one was arguing
with you in this forum for
On 03/19/2017 02:34 PM, awake...@tutanota.de wrote:
> If IceCat isn't important in the grande scheme of things, then what
> browser may you suggest other security and privacy conscious users use
> in the place of IceCat, god forbid it wasn't a choice anymore?
I was talking about people who *don't*
"What you "sense" is a conspiracy theory, and it's ridiculous. IceCat is
not important in the grand scheme of things for anyone who isn't a libre
software supporter, so there is no cause for a conspiracy. Further,
there is no evidence for a conspiracy."
If IceCat isn't important in the grande sche
I'm sorry if you perceive pointing out logical fallacies as attacking users,
but I'm not sorry for any of the very intelligent and well thought out comments
I made. I know it's difficult to discern the tone of a text message on a screen
on the internet, but as a certain bear we all know says, "O
"bug-gnuzilla list run by lduros at gnu.org" -
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnuzilla
Please continue this discussion with the admin if you are unsatisfied.
On 2017-03-19 01:18, Julie Marchant wrote:
Libre software is about freedom to control your computing, not freedom
to choo
Libre software is about freedom to control your computing, not freedom to
choose a proprietary OS. The FSF supports compiling for Windows because it
helps users to transition to libre software.
Attacking users for making a bad decision (Windows) is unproductive and
hurtful, but not directly at
It's funny, GNU is about freedom of choice, yet just about every message I
read has people trampling over others choice of operating system.
It's appalling to read almost every day these arguments. Yes, sometimes
it's hard to support different platforms. I'm a software engineer myself,
so I know
On 03/18/2017 01:37 PM, awake...@tutanota.de wrote:
> I sense deep treachery however.
What you "sense" is a conspiracy theory, and it's ridiculous. IceCat is
not important in the grand scheme of things for anyone who isn't a libre
software supporter, so there is no cause for a conspiracy. Further,
one question, why would you use a closed source operating system if you care
about security and privacy?
15. Mar 2017 22:39 by d...@runbox.com:
> Hi,
>
> I am sick and effing tired of the project going nowhere because all we do is
> argue over the same crap while the developers can't make up t
"The GNU project is about providing freedom to
people who need it, not *deliberately* harming people's lives with insecure
software just because they use closed-source OSes."
wait so let me get this straight
1. use close source operating system
2. somehow actually believe you are safe, secure,
I will respect that, as I always have. I sense deep treachery however. I don't
mean to personally attack but people need to be aware that something is
definitely going on. my radar is ringing off the scale. the reply from "Daniel
Quintiliani пишет:" reads word for word like a script
Don't violate the forum rules. We are not here to judge why people who
use proprietary OS's, this forum is for IceCat only. Please respect that.
using icecat on a closed source operating system is like eating
burgers and pizza and donuts 6 days a week and on the seventh day you
eat one salad a
I honestly believe it's a push of some kind. with obvious motives. wild times
we live in.
16. Mar 2017 10:32 by sedov...@yandex.ru:
>
> You talk a lot.Talk about the empty and unnecessary. The
> number of Icecat developers is small and they are right that the
If I may chime in here, asking the already overworked icecat developers to work
harder to maintain different icecat versions for closed source operating
systems isn't exactly just a security nightmare. it's an absolutely pointless
effort. you could have the best browser on earth and use it on ap
Please don't be offensive in here.
I sympathize with Dan that the release schedules have lost control. But you are
right too Sedovanr, there are only a few developers for IceCat, however, the
team is about to expand.
On 16 March 2017 15:32:35 CET, Sedov Andrey wrote:
>You talk a lot. Talk abou
You talk a lot. Talk about the empty and unnecessary. The number of
Icecat developers is small and they are right that they do not spend
their time on unnecessary things. Want for a useless thing - support
spyware OS Windows, DO!
Develop your code for IceCat, and do not make claims and whims for
And I am getting more and more satisfied with icecat. I have critiqued the
release schedule in the past, but I came to understand that developers need to
strike a balance between upstream updates and downstream fixes, which are
often just as important. And since I don't understand any of the tec
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