RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-27 Thread Lupi, Guy
on the tunnel interface, works like a charm. Just thought it was interesting so I figured I would send this. ~-Original Message- ~From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ~Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 PM ~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Subject: Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 10:57 PM -0400 4/18/02, nrf wrote: Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... He didn't say that BGP negotiates the MTU in any of its PDUs. He just says that mismatched MTUs can be a problem, which is all I mentioned in my message about OSPF also

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
There's not a word about MTU in draft 17 of the update to RFC1771 (even being on the working group, I'm not sure if draft 18 is out yet). There is a maximum update length of 4K, but updates are inherently variable length. At 9:53 PM -0400 4/18/02, nrf wrote: Really? I had never heard of

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-19 Thread nrf
That's what I thought, which is why what suaveguru said made me so curious. The only problems with MTU that I thought BGP would have are the same problems that any IP packet might have with MTU (fragmentation, etc.) Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
BGP Keepalives are very short, but Updates can be very long. It looks like they can be 4096 bytes from RFC 1771 (not counting headers). BGP relies on TCP and IP, as you know, of course. Those layers would have to make sure that the IP Don't Fragment bit was set to 0 (which means May

RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread suaveguru
If I am not wrong this problem also occurs for BGP peers with unmatched MTU sizes which causes BGP to flap when they exchange routing tables , especially if one neighbour is configured with full-routes regards, suaveguru --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: The problem happens when the routers

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf
Really? I had never heard of this problem. I'm not aware that BGP negotiates MTU in any of its PDU's. Can you provide the RFC that discusses this problem? suaveguru wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If I am not wrong this problem also occurs for BGP peers with

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
He didn't say that BGP negotiates the MTU in any of its PDUs. He just says that mismatched MTUs can be a problem, which is all I mentioned in my message about OSPF also (although OSPF does in fact also include the MTU in database description packets and refuse to become adjacent with a router

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... He didn't say that BGP negotiates the MTU in any of its PDUs. He just says that mismatched MTUs can be a problem, which is all I mentioned in my message about OSPF also (although OSPF does in fact also include

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-17 Thread Persio Pucci
ATM Net that we had). They would not form an adjacency, and the error message was about the DDP packets, which could not be exchanged once that the MTU didn't match. Persio - Original Message - From: Kane, Christopher A. To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: RE: OSPF vs

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-17 Thread nrf
Kane, Christopher A. wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The most frequently mismatched parameters relevant for OSPF configuration seem to be dead intervals mtu sizes. OSPF doesn't care about MTU size. Uh, excuse me? Go read RFC 2178 (OSPF v2), section G.9: When two

RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-17 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
The most frequently mismatched parameters relevant for OSPF configuration seem to be dead intervals mtu sizes. OSPF doesn't care about MTU size. Uh, excuse me? Go read RFC 2178 (OSPF v2), section G.9: When two neighboring routers have a different interface MTU for their

Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-17 Thread nrf
You got here just before I did. I was just about to say that RFC 2328 overrides 2178. Kane, Christopher A. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The most frequently mismatched parameters relevant for OSPF configuration seem to be dead intervals mtu sizes.

RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The problem happens when the routers try to exchange database description packets. One side can send packets that are too large for the other side to receive. Then the routers never achieve adjacency. It's an infamous problem. I was glad that Kevin brought it up. I was thinking we should have

RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-16 Thread Bill Carter
I currently manage a Large network (300) routers running OSPF and IPX. When I first got here the network was Proteon routers. The routers were severely limited in memory. Think 2500's with 8Mb RAM. We had a Cisco 5500 w/ RSM in the core and started to replace the Proteons with Bay ASN. So we

RE: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-16 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
Also, what about OSPF between Cisco and non-Cisco products? Do they always work together like they're supposed to? Doug, I've worked with OSPF in a multi-vendor environment and had no problems. All the required parameters in the Hello packets were met and neigh/adj's were established with

RE: OSPF vs. IS-IS

2000-11-14 Thread McCallum, Robert
ospf. ISIS I have found is deployed mainly is Large Telcos. -Original Message- From: Jaeheon Yoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2000 09:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF vs. IS-IS Which one is more widely deployed, OSPF or IS-IS? _

RE: OSPF vs. IS-IS

2000-11-14 Thread Brandon Peyton
, November 14, 2000 8:21 PM To: 'Jaeheon Yoo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSPF vs. IS-IS ospf. ISIS I have found is deployed mainly is Large Telcos. -Original Message- From: Jaeheon Yoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2000 09:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF vs

Re: OSPF vs. IS-IS

2000-11-14 Thread Brian
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Jaeheon Yoo wrote: Which one is more widely deployed, OSPF or IS-IS? I would say OSPF by far. But when it comes to very large scalable networks, I would say IS-IS. Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:

Re: OSPF vs ISIS

2000-06-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
It looks to me that everybody prefers OSPF in our company, just wondering any reasons that we do not want to use ISIS? Thanks Kent For enterprise networks, there is no particular benefit to using ISIS. Many of the large ISPs do use it, in many cases for historical reasons. There are some