At 08:49 PM 1/22/03 -0500, you (Felix Miata) wrote:
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Right, so from this script the fact of opening all devices known
has been rather fast I think ? about 5 seconds ? And this on
one of these
Gerard Patel wrote:
At 08:49 PM 1/22/03 -0500, you (Felix Miata) wrote:
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Right, so from this script the fact of opening all devices known
has been rather fast I think ? about 5 seconds ?
Gerard Patel wrote:
At 09:42 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you (Felix Miata) wrote:
1505 (64 second last non-root login; 9.0; users
501,502,503,551,553,555,556,587; all group 501; 550Mhz)
1562 (89 second last non-root login; 9.0; users
500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507; all group 500; 500Mhz)
1470
Here is another way to see what's happening during devfsd startup :
- Stop devfsd with service devfsd stop
- Start it manually with devfsd /dev -t 2
You will see what is done during startup. Hit Ctrl-S from time to time
to interrupt the scrolling and see what it is working on (then Ctrl-Q to
At 04:04 PM 1/20/03 +0100, you (Christophe Combelles) wrote:
Here is another way to see what's happening during devfsd startup :
snip
Yes, you already posted this; I have seen your post.
I understand that you may have explained why devfs start is slow
in the general case all right; but the
At 09:42 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you (Felix Miata) wrote:
1505 (64 second last non-root login; 9.0; users
501,502,503,551,553,555,556,587; all group 501; 550Mhz)
1562 (89 second last non-root login; 9.0; users
500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507; all group 500; 500Mhz)
1470 (5.5 second last non-root login;
But why is it necessary to change the perms of the devices ??
This should be only a matter of groups.
For example /dev/mixer should always belong to root:audio with perms
crw-rw, and a user should be in the group audio.
So even ater login, the /dev entry has not been changed, but only
Gerard Patel wrote:
At 07:16 PM 1/15/03 -0500, you wrote:
I wouldn't know how to begin tracking it down. I asked for help on the
subject: Login Takes An Eternity on 9.0 on the expert list Tue, 10 Dec
2002 23:52:55 -0500. The thread produced no usable help.
I am not subscribed to this
Felix Miata wrote:
Two different boxes, both 550 Mhz. Last timed login: 17 seconds. Might
be a devfs problem. During boot:
Running DevFs daemon
displayed on the screen for 2 minutes, 19 seconds. 28 seconds later,
tty1 went blank as X started and changed to tty7. IOW, the devfs
On Thursday 16 January 2003 00:14, Austin Acton wrote:
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 17:33, Buchan Milne wrote:
Would you rather a newbie has to figure out the 17 groups he needs to be
a member of to use his hardware?
Believe me, I was never proposing that gentoo has a better system.
It was
OK, I had not thought of this cases.
You're right for la_danse_des_canards. It could be horrible...
But why is it so long to change these perms ?
How is managed the list of devices to change ?
Michael Scherer wrote:
But why is it necessary to change the perms of the devices ??
This should be
WIth athlon 1,2GHz, it takes about 4 seconds for me, either on 9.0 or 9.1b1
If devfs is unmounted, I get instant login.
Buchan Milne wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Two different boxes, both 550 Mhz. Last timed login: 17 seconds. Might
be a devfs problem. During boot:
Running DevFs daemon
Are you sure this is a first login ?
Because when you or another user is already logged, the login is as fast
as root.
Luca Olivetti wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
1973. I just booted 9.0 on my W98 machine and it took 17 seconds flat on
VC4, much too long.
A console login is almost instantaneus
At 03:52 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
snip
Two different boxes, both 550 Mhz. Last timed login: 17 seconds. Might
be a devfs problem. During boot:
Running DevFs daemon
displayed on the screen for 2 minutes, 19 seconds. 28 seconds later,
tty1 went blank as X started and changed to tty7.
Gerard Patel wrote:
At 03:52 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
Two different boxes, both 550 Mhz. Last timed login: 17 seconds. Might
be a devfs problem. During boot:
Running DevFs daemon
displayed on the screen for 2 minutes, 19 seconds. 28 seconds later,
tty1 went blank as X
On Thursday 16 January 2003 15:42, Felix Miata wrote:
Gerard Patel wrote:
At 03:52 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
[ snip a lot ]
Well, I had the exact same problem after installing 9.0 on my laptop.
This is a rather old one, with Celeron 300 Mhz and not really fast ide disk,
so any unnecessary
Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) wrote:
Are you sure this is a first login
No, you're right, I was already logged in in X.
Because when you or another user is already logged, the login is as fast
as root.
Well, just to be sure I tried as a first login and it takes about 2 seconds.
I
Nicolas Pomarede wrote:
Well, I had the exact same problem after installing 9.0 on my laptop.
This is a rather old one, with Celeron 300 Mhz and not really fast ide disk,
so any unnecessary operations during the login is easily noticeable.
After boot completed, I noticed login with root was
Austin Acton wrote:
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 17:55, Christophe Combelles wrote:
-- the login takes between 3 and 5 seconds.
Hehe, there was some discussion about this a while ago. I forget where
it was, but it was 'gentoo is SO much faster' people against 'Mandrake
and gentoo are the same
Buchan Milne a écrit:
Austin Acton wrote:
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 17:55, Christophe Combelles wrote:
-- the login takes between 3 and 5 seconds.
Hehe, there was some discussion about this a while ago. I forget where
it was, but it was 'gentoo is SO much faster' people against 'Mandrake
and
Christophe Combelles wrote:
But why is it necessary to change the perms of the devices ??
This should be only a matter of groups.
It's not so simple, a group cannot tell if you are logging in at the
console or remotely (read below)
For example /dev/mixer should always belong to root:audio
Luca Olivetti wrote:
Christophe Combelles wrote:
But why is it necessary to change the perms of the devices ??
This should be only a matter of groups.
It's not so simple, a group cannot tell if you are logging in at the
console or remotely (read below)
For example /dev/mixer
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Luca Olivetti wrote:
For example /dev/mixer should always belong to root:audio with perms
crw-rw, and a user should be in the group audio.
So even ater login, the /dev entry has not been changed, but only the
users of the group audio could access /dev/mixer.
And
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Felix Miata wrote:
The system I most often boot to Mandrake has no sound card, and takes
more like a minute to complete a login if not root. There's no excuse
for such behavior to have survived the 9.0 beta process, much less
continue in 9.1. 7.1 has no such problem on
Buchan Milne wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Felix Miata wrote:
The system I most often boot to Mandrake has no sound card, and takes
more like a minute to complete a login if not root. There's no excuse
for such behavior to have survived the 9.0 beta process, much less
continue in 9.1.
Felix Miata wrote:
1973. I just booted 9.0 on my W98 machine and it took 17 seconds flat on
VC4, much too long.
A console login is almost instantaneus here (9.0). Maybe what's causing
the slowdown is something else? (/etc/nsswitch.conf?)
Bye
--
Luca Olivetti
Note.- This message reached you
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 17:33, Buchan Milne wrote:
Would you rather a newbie has to figure out the 17 groups he needs to be a
member of to use his hardware?
Believe me, I was never proposing that gentoo has a better system.
It was supposed to be sarcastic; like the only place gentoo can prove
Luca Olivetti wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
I just booted 9.0 on my W98 machine and it took 17 seconds flat on
VC4, much too long.
A console login is almost instantaneus here (9.0). Maybe what's causing
the slowdown is something else? (/etc/nsswitch.conf?)
I wouldn't know how to begin
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And with linux NFS only allowing 15 groups, I don't want to waste
any unnecessary (audio, cdwriter, video,usb) groups on stuff that is
of no relevevance on the rest of the network (as opposed to adm,
wheel, etc).
Does NFSv4 in 2.5 support more than 15
At 07:16 PM 1/15/03 -0500, you wrote:
I wouldn't know how to begin tracking it down. I asked for help on the
subject: Login Takes An Eternity on 9.0 on the expert list Tue, 10 Dec
2002 23:52:55 -0500. The thread produced no usable help.
I am not subscribed to this list, could you be kind enough
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 23:24, Gerard Patel wrote:
At 07:16 PM 1/15/03 -0500, you wrote:
I wouldn't know how to begin tracking it down. I asked for help on the
subject: Login Takes An Eternity on 9.0 on the expert list Tue, 10 Dec
2002 23:52:55 -0500. The thread produced no usable help.
I
This problem was also on the 9.0 :
- log off ALL the users.
- Go to a console (for ex Alt-Ctrl-F1)
- login as root
- login is very fast. OK
- log off this root user.
- log in as a standard user
-- the login takes between 3 and 5 seconds.
I have straced the login process, and made some very
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 17:55, Christophe Combelles wrote:
-- the login takes between 3 and 5 seconds.
Hehe, there was some discussion about this a while ago. I forget where
it was, but it was 'gentoo is SO much faster' people against 'Mandrake
and gentoo are the same speed' people. The
Yes, ok , but Is there a way to keep devfs and to not lstat the whole /dev ?
Austin Acton a écrit:
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 17:55, Christophe Combelles wrote:
-- the login takes between 3 and 5 seconds.
Hehe, there was some discussion about this a while ago. I forget where
it was, but it was
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