RE: CouchDB Weekly News – Submissions

2015-09-10 Thread Benjamin Young
Hey Kathrine, Thanks for rounding all these things up. Sad I missed todays shipment of great news, but here's some items for next week (full disclosure, two of the talks below are mine): ApacheCon: Big Data in Budapest will feature four CouchDB related talks: CouchDB 2.0: The Awkward Bits - Mik

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 20:20, Alexander Shorin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >>> On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:06, Alexander Shorin wrote: >>> >>> -1. We need to fix this, not drop. >> >> The feature is already very poor, hard to understand and configure, and >> agai

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Shorin
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >> On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:06, Alexander Shorin wrote: >> >> -1. We need to fix this, not drop. > > The feature is already very poor, hard to understand and configure, and > again, I don’t know anyone who is using this. “Fixing” this would, imho

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Robert Kowalski
Cool! I like the idea! :) On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > > On 10 Sep 2015, at 18:31, Robert Kowalski wrote: > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > how would testing of a PR/change work in practice? > > > > Example: I am opening 3 Pull-Requests that depend on each other, one in > > c

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Shorin
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Michelle Phung wrote: > You didn’t say it like that exactly in irc :P but you did allude to it :) > > I thought you meant that if I opened a design@ML that people would use it > sparsely as they used the www@ML sparsely. :) Then I was not clear (: Sorry. > We co

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:06, Alexander Shorin wrote: > > -1. We need to fix this, not drop. The feature is already very poor, hard to understand and configure, and again, I don’t know anyone who is using this. “Fixing” this would, imho, mean, starting from scratch and making this properly, jus

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:50, Michelle Phung wrote: > > Kxepal, > > You didn’t say it like that exactly in irc :P but you did allude to it :) > > I thought you meant that if I opened a design@ML that people would use it > sparsely as they used the www@ML sparsely. :) > > We could reuse www@ bu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Michelle Phung
Kxepal, You didn’t say it like that exactly in irc :P but you did allude to it :) I thought you meant that if I opened a design@ML that people would use it sparsely as they used the www@ML sparsely. :) We could reuse www@ but its a narrow label for all things design. Although www@ML as a name i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Shorin
Will repeat myself from IRC: Why not to reuse www@ ML, which is abandon now, for web design bits? -- ,,,^..^,,, On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Michelle Phung wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to open mailing thread for CouchDB designers, design advocates, > and design enthusiasts. > > It is a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Garren Smith
I think a design mailing list would be great. > On 10 Sep 2015, at 4:24 PM, Johs Ensby wrote: > > Hi, > >> On 10. sep. 2015, at 16.15, Michelle Phung wrote: >> I recently was asked how to render a front end application visualization >> that could potentially have millions of data points and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Garren Smith
+1 to delete. I would rather limit the scope of CouchDB 2.0 and rather focus on getting the core out. > On 10 Sep 2015, at 7:06 PM, Alexander Shorin wrote: > > -1. We need to fix this, not drop. > -- > ,,,^..^,,, > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >> Oh, and I don’t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Shorin
-1. We need to fix this, not drop. -- ,,,^..^,,, On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > Oh, and I don’t know anyone who uses this. > > Best > Jan > -- > >> On 10 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >> >> Heya all, >> >> I just had occasion to look into 2.0s oAuth support and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 18:31, Robert Kowalski wrote: > > Hi Jan, > > how would testing of a PR/change work in practice? > > Example: I am opening 3 Pull-Requests that depend on each other, one in > chttpd, one in fabric and one in rexi. > > Or is the idea that the testsuite turns red when the d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Oh, and I don’t know anyone who uses this. Best Jan -- > On 10 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > Heya all, > > I just had occasion to look into 2.0s oAuth support and it looks like chttpd > doesn’t ever talk to couch_httpd_oauth. > > In addition, oAuth in 1.x has only ever been ha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Robert Kowalski
Hi Jan, how would testing of a PR/change work in practice? Example: I am opening 3 Pull-Requests that depend on each other, one in chttpd, one in fabric and one in rexi. Or is the idea that the testsuite turns red when the deps are updated in the top level module? On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:09 P

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Klaus Trainer
+1 On 09/10/2015 06:18 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > Heya all, > > I just had occasion to look into 2.0s oAuth support and it looks like chttpd > doesn’t ever talk to couch_httpd_oauth. > > In addition, oAuth in 1.x has only ever been half-baked (no automatic > handling of tokens among many other

[PROPOSAL] Remove oAuth for 2.0

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Heya all, I just had occasion to look into 2.0s oAuth support and it looks like chttpd doesn’t ever talk to couch_httpd_oauth. In addition, oAuth in 1.x has only ever been half-baked (no automatic handling of tokens among many other things), it is not maintained, and it is barely documented.

[BLOG] The CouchDB Weekly News, September 10, is out!

2015-09-10 Thread Katharina Jockenhöfer
Hi everybody! Here we go with the CouchDB Weekly News: http://blog.couchdb.org/2015/09/10/couchdb-weekly-news-september-10-2015/ Including: Discussions: CouchDB _rewrite A proposal to enhance quality by new testing me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Jason Smith
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Ilya Khlopotov wrote: > > Is there a way to publish an Erlang module for downstream users > independently of git? If yes, we could move back to a single-git-tree > model for > CouchDB, but we can still release parts as independent modules. I know > there have > b

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Johs Ensby
Hi, > On 10. sep. 2015, at 16.15, Michelle Phung wrote: > I recently was asked how to render a front end application visualization that > could potentially have millions of data points and could break the client. > My initial response to this was to bin the data, then render it, but as I > thou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Michelle Phung
Hi Johs! Thanks! I am interested in data journalism, and data visualizations as well. Using CouchDB with d3 in an app could be really interesting. There is another library called RaphaelJS that is pretty good. (http://raphaeljs.com/) It is more SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) focused, so their

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Ilya Khlopotov
> Is there a way to publish an Erlang module for downstream users independently of git? If yes, we could move back to a single-git-tree model for CouchDB, but we can still release parts as independent modules. I know there have been a few attempts at Erlang package managers, but has anything taken

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Ilya Khlopotov
One more option to consider (based on Russell idea expressed personally). We could follow following process when we create PR. 1. create PR against dependency (or multiple deps) 2. create PR (this is not for merge) for couchdb repo which updates rebar.config.script to point to PR created in #1 3.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Johs Ensby
Good idea, Michelle! One idea that I think could be powerful for a group like this is to explore d3 Data journalism is a strong wave and CouchDB and d3 are a perfect match. It's also showcase Couch in a powerful way outside the DBA group. Other 2D and 3D graphics libraries in JavaScript might al

[PROPOSAL] Create des...@couchdb.apache.org mailing list

2015-09-10 Thread Michelle Phung
Hello, I would like to open mailing thread for CouchDB designers, design advocates, and design enthusiasts. It is a place to discuss all things design related with respect to CouchDB. It could be a good place for people to learn about design. Michelle Phung

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Jan Lehnardt
> On 10 Sep 2015, at 12:18, Alexander Shorin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Dale Harvey wrote: >> I dont think CI is a dream, It should take an afternoon at most to get >> CouchDB setup on travis on a single platform to ensure no major regressions >> come though. If anyone wants h

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Shorin
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Dale Harvey wrote: > I dont think CI is a dream, It should take an afternoon at most to get > CouchDB setup on travis on a single platform to ensure no major regressions > come though. If anyone wants help doing that feel free to ping me on > #pouchdb / #couchdb,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Jason Smith
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Dale Harvey wrote: > I do think multirepos is an issue and that solution is not so simple, we > went through the same issues with pouchdb as we attempted to split out our > repository. > If I understand correctly, this is what we do now... > > 1. Dont split out

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Dale Harvey
And if anyone wants to make a start on travis https://github.com/pouchdb/pouchdb/blob/master/.travis.yml and https://github.com/pouchdb/pouchdb/blob/master/bin/run-couch-master-on-travis.sh Should get you most of the way there On 10 September 2015 at 11:40, Dale Harvey wrote: > I dont think CI

Re: [PROPOSAL] Improving the quality of CouchDB

2015-09-10 Thread Dale Harvey
I dont think CI is a dream, It should take an afternoon at most to get CouchDB setup on travis on a single platform to ensure no major regressions come though. If anyone wants help doing that feel free to ping me on #pouchdb / #couchdb, we already test couchdb master in travis. I do think multirep

CouchDB Weekly News – Submissions

2015-09-10 Thread Katharina Jockenhöfer
Hello all! please send me submissions for the CouchDB Weekly News if you have any!! Especially for - News in the CouchDB and PouchDB universe - Opinions, good articles/talks - Interesting use cases - CouchDB related events Your support is much appreciated. Have a great day! Katharina