[VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Clinton Begin
Hi all, It strikes me that there was enough discussion around the Maven build to warrant an official vote for Maven support. +2 => Replace our Ant build entirely with a Maven build. +1 => Support Maven by including a Maven build alongside our Ant build. 0 => Don't care or I don't know enough

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Jeff Butler
In my own little perfect world, I'm -1. The iBATIS ant build is so simple now - I hate to see it mucked up just to supply the Maven meta-bs as Clinton so eloquently put it. However, I would like to see the iBATIS jars in the Maven repository - if for no other reason than to help those who can't

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
"Can we get the iBATIS jars to the maven repository without doing a maven build?" Yes On 2/14/07, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my own little perfect world, I'm -1. The iBATIS ant build is so simple now - I hate to see it mucked up just to supply the Maven meta-bs as Clinton so el

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Larry Meadors
+2 On 2/14/07, Clinton Begin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, It strikes me that there was enough discussion around the Maven build to warrant an official vote for Maven support. +2 => Replace our Ant build entirely with a Maven build. +1 => Support Maven by including a Maven build alongsi

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
I think this is a bit premature. My intention was to show a working comparison so that this decision could be made in an informed manner. Brandon On 2/14/07, Clinton Begin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, It strikes me that there was enough discussion around the Maven build to warrant an of

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Bruno Silva (Cool Advance)
If you want to know my opinion, +1. I guess Ant is everywhere in the Java world while Maven is not (I personally prefer Ivy for dependency management). Regards, Bruno Silva Clinton Begin wrote: Hi all, It strikes me that there was enough discussion around the Maven build to warrant an offic

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Clinton Begin
Votes never close and can be changed, so don't worry about the timing. Clinton On 2/14/07, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is a bit premature. My intention was to show a working comparison so that this decision could be made in an informed manner. Brandon On 2/14/07, Cl

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Larry Meadors
IMO, that is like "Can we clean a toilet with a toothbrush?" Yes, we can, but who wants to offer up their toothbrush? Not me! :-) The question to me is: "Can we get the iBATIS jars to the maven repository without doing a maven build, and is it the right way to do it?" Yes we can, but no it's n

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Jeff Butler
Yes - I should have asked that question with more subtlety. I guess the bottom line is that it is *possible* to get the jars to the repository without doing a maven build, but doing a maven build makes it much easier to publish to the repository. And our history shows that we are unlikely to get

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Larry Meadors
If past history is any indication of the future, that is correct. :) Larry On 2/14/07, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes - I should have asked that question with more subtlety. I guess the bottom line is that it is *possible* to get the jars to the repository without doing a maven b

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Slava Imeshev
t; To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only) > Yes - I should have asked that question with more subtlety. I guess the > bottom line is that it is *possible* to get the jars to the repository &

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
Currently, if we want to publish the jars to the maven repo the release manager would need to make sure the current pom.xml compiles and runs all tests successfully with "mvn clean install". You'd run the normal ant build as well to generate the jar we want to deploy to a maven repository. Then we

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only) > Yes - I should have asked that question with more subtlety. I guess the > bottom line is that it is *possible* to get the jars to the repository > without do

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Nathan Maves
uilt > with Ant to a local Maven repository is a one-liner. > > Regards, > > Slava Imeshev > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ; < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:09 AM > Subjec

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
Maybe a one-liner to deploy the JAR to a local repository, but to ready the JARs for public distribution, we also need to sign them and such. You can do everything that's needed by hand, without Maven, but it can be a lot of work. Even at Struts, we don't have the complete Maven build and deploy

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Clinton Begin
k for a global catalog, but adding an item built > > with Ant to a local Maven repository is a one-liner. > > > > Regards, > > > > Slava Imeshev > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jeff Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: &l

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Clinton Begin
If that's the case, would it make sense to use Ant for build and Maven for deploy? One thing I'll miss with Maven is the tool integration. I imagine I could get a Maven plugin for IDEA and Eclipse, but Ant is ubiquitous and works with a lot of other tools. At least I know Continuum works with M

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Slava Imeshev
Begin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only) > If that's the case, would it make sense to use Ant for build and Maven > for deploy? > > One thing I'll miss with Maven is the

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
lt > > > with Ant to a local Maven repository is a one-liner. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Slava Imeshev > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Jeff Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Brandon Goodin
I think i would echo Jeff's sentiment and hold to one or the other. As far as integration. Both IDEA and Netbeans have excellent Maven 2 support. IDEA has the Maven 2 Integration plugin that is installable from their Plugins setting. Netbeans has mevenide which allows you to open POMs as a proje

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-14 Thread Clinton Begin
em built > > > > with Ant to a local Maven repository is a one-liner. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Slava Imeshev > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Jeff Butler&quo

Re: [VOTE] Support for Maven (impacts Java version only)

2007-02-15 Thread Brandon Goodin
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I seriously doubt that this would require switching to Maven > > > > > build. > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for a global catalog, but adding an item built > > > > > with An