On 31 August 2011 13:28, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> So, refactoring this page is a must.
> 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a "At work" placeholder)
> 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for
> N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute?
My 2c:
* remove t
On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be scared
away by such an arrogant looking page!
So, refactoring this page is a must.
1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a "At work" placeholder)
2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy
for N other OS, waiting for s
Hi,
http://dtrace.what-creek.com no longer exists, because sadly, the
author of that web page (John Birrell) is no longer with us:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-November/001284.html
There are some other documentation pages available for DTrace on FreeBSD:
http://wiki.
I can help, I just changed my job and get more spare time. Currently I can
help write doc and test. There is much documentation about DTrace ( thanks
Sun), but none of these describes the technical details of FreeBSD DTrace
implementation, so I think we can start with this.
1 write doc about what
30.08.2011 12:23, Sergey Kandaurov wrote:
[Taking random email.]
I think we could merge the $subj web page with this one (which is
more actual, as of 7.0): http://www.freebsd.org/features.html
The pages serve different purposes. There's no point in elaborating
about feature X if feature X su
On 8/30/11, K. Macy wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni
> wrote:
>> FWIW;
>>
>> Christopher Bergström and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
>> Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
>>
>> (From the WantedPorts Wiki)
>> https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
>>
No one has
30.08.2011 12:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update is t
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Jason Campbell wrote:
Downloaded FreeBSD-9.0-BETA1-amd64-memstick.img and verified the image
with md5sum. I wrote the image (from Linux):
dd if=FreeBSD.img of=/dev/sde bs=512
Rebooted and get "gptboot: Invalid backup GPT header"
Same here, although it ran normally. The e
Question for GPGPU users:
How important are denormalized floats to GPGPU? (when the number is
so small that it can't be normalized with the smallest possible exponent)
The graphics people don't care, just round it. Do the GPGPU people care?
(This is for the Open Graphics Project, which is design
> I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
> like 11 years ...
Fixing some ancient PRs would be nice also. (fixed, not just closed)
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Downloaded FreeBSD-9.0-BETA1-amd64-memstick.img and verified the image
with md5sum. I wrote the image (from Linux):
dd if=FreeBSD.img of=/dev/sde bs=512
Rebooted and get "gptboot: Invalid backup GPT header"
Ran linux gdisk on usb stick to clear out old GPT info and found in
old FreeBSD -release a
On Aug 30, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Oleg Ginzburg wrote:
> Hi
>
> Some trouble in FreeBSD 9.0-beta2 Installer:
>
> a) Infinity loop of Dialog in Network Configuration stage when static IP
> selected without default gw:
>
> How to reproduce:
>
> Would you like to configure IPv4 for this interface - (
On 08/30/11 22:25, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
On 08/30/11 21:27, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
Thanks for pointi
On 08/30/11 22:14, K. Macy wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
FWIW;
Christopher Bergström and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
(From the WantedPorts Wiki)
https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
There has been very low int
On 08/30/11 21:59, Chris Brennan wrote:
On 8/30/2011 2:48 PM, Sean M. Collins wrote:
On 8/27/11 3:32 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
I think that it also clashes with the positive tone that (I've
experienced) in most of the website copy, di
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
> But the lack of response and non-shown interests shows a undeobtly signal
> that freeBSD seems to be
> dead for the HPC community and this could be also an indication for the lack
> of CUDA support
> by nVidia, Why performing efforts if no on
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:22:17PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote:
> On 08/30/11 21:47, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
> >
> >Christopher Bergstr?m and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
> >Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
> >
> >(From the WantedPorts Wiki)
> >https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
> >
> But the lack of response and non-shown interests shows a undeobtly signal
> that freeBSD seems to be
> dead for the HPC community and this could be also an indication for the lack
> of CUDA support
> by nVidia, Why performing efforts if no one cares? A great chance seems to
> have passed by ...
On 08/30/11 21:47, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
FWIW;
Christopher Bergström and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
(From the WantedPorts Wiki)
https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
There has been very low interest in the FreeBSD port,
and unfortunately this
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Hartmann, O.
> wrote:
>> On 08/30/11 21:27, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O.
>>> wrote:
On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
>
> On 2011-08-
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
> On 08/30/11 21:27, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O.
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
>
> Thanks for pointing out th
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
> FWIW;
>
> Christopher Bergström and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
> Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
>
> (From the WantedPorts Wiki)
> https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
>
> There has been very low interest in the FreeBSD p
FWIW;
Christopher Bergström and Pathscale delivered the EKOPath
Compiler Suite, but no one followed up:
(From the WantedPorts Wiki)
https://github.com/pathscale/path64-suite
There has been very low interest in the FreeBSD port,
and unfortunately this is a bad signal that we give to
companies tha
On 8/30/2011 2:48 PM, Sean M. Collins wrote:
> On 8/27/11 3:32 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
>
> I think that it also clashes with the positive tone that (I've
> experienced) in most of the website copy, discussions on this mailing
> list,
On 08/30/11 21:27, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
Thanks for pointing out those details !
This whole thing about make.conf&src.conf is very confusing and gives
the
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
> On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
>>
>> On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing out those details !
>>> This whole thing about make.conf& src.conf is very confusing and gives
>>> the
>>> impression of somet
On 8/27/11 3:32 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
I think that it also clashes with the positive tone that (I've
experienced) in most of the website copy, discussions on this mailing
list, and other parts of the FreeBSD project.
We have an awe
on 30/08/2011 18:39 Andriy Gapon said the following:
> 4. There is a missing developer/maintainer for DTrace on FreeBSD.
I probably should clarify this point: it doesn't have to be *the* maintainer, a
collective maintainer is also perfect. Thus, contributions are very welcome.
> Nevertheless the
On 08/30/11 19:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
Thanks for pointing out those details !
This whole thing about make.conf& src.conf is very confusing and
gives the
impression of something half ported ...
The only thing that is "half ported" at the moment, is
On 2011-08-30 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
Thanks for pointing out those details !
This whole thing about make.conf& src.conf is very confusing and gives the
impression of something half ported ...
The only thing that is "half ported" at the moment, is an easy "use
clang to build world" switch.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:45:09PM +0800, Paul Ambrose wrote:
> 3 There is a missing feature list about DTrace, but no schedule list about
> when to fix it.
We just need someone who wants to spend a lot of time working on it.
Without that, there is no point in putting up a schedule.
mcl
On 08/30/11 18:44, Alex Kuster wrote:
Thanks for pointing out those details !
This whole thing about make.conf& src.conf is very confusing and gives the
impression of something half ported ...
I aggree. It is, indeed.
Because I honestly though that src.conf was for freebsd sources as indica
On 08/30/11 18:20, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2011-08-30 11:48, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I'm building world with CLANG (or I pretend to do so).
In my /etc/make.conf I use these lines:
###
### CLANG
###
.if defined(USE_CLANG)
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/src*)
You should a
On 08/30/11 17:34, Chris Brennan wrote:
On 8/30/2011 10:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document sh
On 30/08/2011 17:43, Chris Brennan wrote:
I do have any idea ... but I don't want to be the one spearheading
such a project, I lack the technical skills or the professional
expertise to lead this project, but I will certainly contribute if and
where possible...
I could probably contribute to
Thanks for pointing out those details !
This whole thing about make.conf & src.conf is very confusing and gives the
impression of something half ported ...
Because I honestly though that src.conf was for freebsd sources as indicated
by the manpage (and in fact, compiled sources that way without is
On 8/30/2011 12:21 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 08/30/2011 06:34 PM, Chris Brennan wrote:
>> But this comparison can't be trivial, it has to be genuine, authentic,
>> (peer reviewed across the board if possible), backed up by fact (links
>> back to other reputable sources). In short, it'
On 08/30/2011 06:34 PM, Chris Brennan wrote:
But this comparison can't be trivial, it has to be genuine, authentic,
(peer reviewed across the board if possible), backed up by fact (links
back to other reputable sources). In short, it's a monumental
undertaking
Yep, it's not trivial... and right
On 2011-08-30 11:48, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I'm building world with CLANG (or I pretend to do so).
In my /etc/make.conf I use these lines:
###
### CLANG
###
.if defined(USE_CLANG)
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/src*)
You should add "|| !empty(.CURDIR:M:/usr/obj*)" to thi
Hi
Some trouble in FreeBSD 9.0-beta2 Installer:
a) Infinity loop of Dialog in Network Configuration stage when static IP
selected without default gw:
How to reproduce:
Would you like to configure IPv4 for this interface - (set Y)
Would you like to use DHCP to configure this interface - (set N)
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>
> So, just to re-iterate, I think that this is indeed a regression and the one
> that could be particularly unhelpful for a new release - the time when people
> are much more likely to end up at the mountroot prompt during an installation
> o
If malloc() fails in /sbin/sysctl, the error message is unhelpful. This patch
helps identify which sysctl entry is failing.
sysctl.diff
Description: Binary data
-Andrew
--
Andrew Boyerabo...@averesystems.com
___
on 30/08/2011 16:45 Paul Ambrose said the following:
> I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting
>
> 1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel
> dtrace support is ok, but the userland support is far from completion(at
> least the
On 8/30/2011 10:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>> On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>>> On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>>> But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
>>> done by a third part
I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting
1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel
dtrace support is ok, but the userland support is far from completion(at
least the pid provider has many bugs)
2 the FreeBSD implementation is
On 08/30/11 16:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
I slightly di
On 30/08/2011 15:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
For a _comparison_, I think it's up to somewhere else:
To really compare, it's mandatory to really now the multiple compared
items. Who cares about the latest MS Windows internals (deep
networking capability, filesystem tricks, kernel schedule
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
I slightly disagree with that.
No problem
Who else than the
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
like 11 years ...
I agree with you.
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
Sorry,
my fault, my stupid. One bonus less on FreeBSD :-(
On 08/30/11 15:45, Paul Ambrose wrote:
I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting
1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel
dtrace support is ok, but the userland support
On 08/30/11 15:14, Olivier Smedts wrote:
2011/8/30 Alex Kuster:
I would also recommend you to move the clang stuff for base system where it
belongs ( /etc/src.conf .. see src.conf(5) ).
> From http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang
Add the following lines to /etc/make.conf:
.if !de
On 08/30/11 12:09, Alex Kuster wrote:
Hi, read this -> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-
August/thread.html#26468
Using the /etc/make.conf with CURDIR approach seems to be broken from some
time now ...
I would also recommend you to move the clang stuff for base system whe
2011/8/30 Alex Kuster :
> I would also recommend you to move the clang stuff for base system where it
> belongs ( /etc/src.conf .. see src.conf(5) ).
>From http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang
Add the following lines to /etc/make.conf:
.if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == "cc"
CC=clang
.end
On 08/30/11 12:09, Alex Kuster wrote:
Hi, read this -> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-
August/thread.html#26468
Using the /etc/make.conf with CURDIR approach seems to be broken from some
time now ...
I would also recommend you to move the clang stuff for base system whe
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
like 11 years ...
I agree with you.
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
--
RMA.
_
Hi, read this -> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-
August/thread.html#26468
Using the /etc/make.conf with CURDIR approach seems to be broken from some
time now ...
I would also recommend you to move the clang stuff for base system where it
belongs ( /etc/src.conf .. see sr
So, just to re-iterate, I think that this is indeed a regression and the one
that could be particularly unhelpful for a new release - the time when people
are much more likely to end up at the mountroot prompt during an installation of
a new system or an upgrade.
on 29/08/2011 23:19 Andriy Gapon
On 08/30/11 11:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update i
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update is the good solution.
A per release update is better
Hello.
I'm building world with CLANG (or I pretend to do so).
In my /etc/make.conf I use these lines:
###
### CLANG
###
.if defined(USE_CLANG)
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/src*)
CFLAGS= -O3 -march=native -mtune=native -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
COPTFLAGS= -O3 -march=
On 30 August 2011 13:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
> On 08/30/11 09:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>>
>> On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
>>>
>>> 27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage s
On 08/30/11 09:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.htm
On 29/08/2011 20:58, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
= SMP =
* (?something about comparing other shedulers with SCHED_ULE), (?some
rt stuff), (?some comparison with other interesting shedulers, like
DragonflyBSD and QNX).
From a recent post to -questions:
"Alas, during a recent kernel build, I us
On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
> 27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
> > This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
> > It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
>
> I think this one would be
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