David
same old mind-set of controlling nature.
Controlling nature vs controlling human behaviour.
This is the issue to be discussed.
Nature is more predictable and controllable.
Human behavior is more unpredictable and hence less controllable.
Unfortunately, many people dream of controlling
The ETC paper is quite interesting -
Harvard physicist and geoengineering advocate, David Keith,
describes geoengineering in the context of climate change as ‘a
countervailing measure, one that uses additional technology to counteract
unwanted side effects without eliminating their root
List - with ccs to Greg and others (including at ETC)
I write mainly to bring the CDR technologies into our discussion about ETC's
views. I hope the following will also be considered as an input into the
ethics/philosophy discussion that is taking place simultaneously on this list.
I view
A few more revealing nuggets:
ETC says it wants all reference to climate taken out of definitions of
geoengineering, i.e. the laudable goal of combating climate change *has
no place* in the definition of geoengineering, as it suggests that
geoengineering technologies do, in fact, combat
In looking at ETC funding sources I see that the HKH Foundation has been a
major
donor:
http://www.etcgroup.org/sites/www.etcgroup.org/files/report/ETC%20Audited%20Financial%20Statements_2010%20copy.pdf
The HKH Foundation is named for Harold K. Hochschild, who was for many years
the executive
Seems like the global agricultural system would fit ETC's definition of
geoengineering.
ETC group defines geoengineering as the intentional, large-scale
technological manipulation of the Earth’s systems,
Under this definition, geoengineering is already a widely deployed and broadly
What about dams, fertilizer production, forestry, deep sea fishing? In
fact the actual existence of industrialized humanity has precipitated the
anthropocene, so from ETC's perspective the industrial revolution seems
like a pretty bad idea.
Smash up the looms, luddites! I'm going to spear a
Mooney, Pat; et al. (2012):
Darken the sky and whiten the earth
http://www.climate-engineering.eu/single/items/mooney-pat-et-al-2012-darken-the-sky-and-whiten-the-earth.html
Mooney, Pat; Wetter, Kathy Jo; Bronson, Diana (2012):
Darken the sky and whiten the earth. The dangers of geoengineering.
A more direct link here:
http://whatnext.org/resources/Publications/Volume-III/Single-articles/wnv3_etcgroup_144.pdf
I thought these nuggets were especially revealing:
Why is geoengineering unacceptable?
It can’t be tested: No experimental phase is possible – in order to have a
noticeable