Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-26 Thread Mahmoud Foda
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Steam bans is great. I love it. If you get a hacker get a demo of him and send it to them and they will decide if he is a hacker or not. On 10/26/05, -=LE=- Doomed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steambans.com http://steambans.com Very similar to

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah Mike, thats true. If you got banned from a back catalogue game, you're still able to play HL2/CS:S/DoD:S etc.pp and imho it's okay. regards -r99t Mike Miller wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, I've searched through the steampowered forums, and have been

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread sirtom__
For me it isn't ok. Some DoD:S buyers received the backcatalogue as an addon due to some problems in the beginning of the DoD:S distribution time... I don't wanna know how many of them would like to annoy some Counter-Strikers ;) Persons/accounts has to be banned, not the value of a game...

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Simon Lange
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:06 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning For me it isn't ok. Some DoD:S buyers received the backcatalogue as an addon due to some problems in the beginning of the DoD:S distribution time

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread kama
You cannot ban a person.. only their account... If someone buys a copy and create an account, they will be able to play with a new steamid. Valve has no time or resources to verify who have bought it in person.. And I will have a hard time to believe that they even capable of it. /Bjorn On Tue,

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Bryan
This is true but other gaming industries are doing global bans. For example if you are caught doing certain cheats in BF2 your hardware id is banned. Not only is your ban permenant in BF2, the player is globally banned in any games supported by PB. It is a start in the right direction. It at

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Gary
That is old news, and plus there are a multitude or workarounds to bypass the hardware banning. Personally, the best way to combat cheating is with technical solutions, not the PB retroactive banning system. Publicly humiliating users will only encourage them to keep doing what they originally

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread JoeSoap
] On Behalf Of Bryan Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2005 7:28 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning This is true but other gaming industries are doing global bans. For example if you are caught doing certain cheats in BF2 your hardware id is banned. Not only

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Bryan
Well I don't agree with you. If I have learned nothing else in my many years of gaming it this, anything coded by a human can be hacked by another human. I can rest assure you that if gamer x was publicly known he would be much more careful about doing cheating especially if his name hit the

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Bryan
: Wednesday, 26 October 2005 7:28 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning This is true but other gaming industries are doing global bans. For example if you are caught doing certain cheats in BF2 your hardware id is banned. Not only is your ban permenant in BF2

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Bryan wrote: Well I don't agree with you. If I have learned nothing else in my many years of gaming it this, anything coded by a human can be hacked by another human. I can rest assure you that if gamer x was publicly known he would be much more careful about doing

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Bryan
Erik Hollensbe wrote: On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Bryan wrote: Well I don't agree with you. If I have learned nothing else in my many years of gaming it this, anything coded by a human can be hacked by another human. I can rest assure you that if gamer x was publicly known he would be much

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Gary
Putting cheaters on MSNBC isn't going to help anything, just like tossing people with drug addictions in prison. It's a waste of resources, time and money. None, as an avid gamer, server admin, clan leader and defender of our country I understand what will take to move gaming to the next

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread ray
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:16 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning Putting cheaters on MSNBC isn't going to help anything, just like tossing people with drug addictions in prison

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Alex Haye
There are some interesting social issues, as well as technical issues of trust bubbling to the surface here. I'll throw an idea out, and I look forward to seeing it shredded to bits. :) What if the concept of established chains of trust, much like SSL certs are accepted, was established based on

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread Cam
* snip * Not to be impolite, but it seems to me like we're deviating from the purpose of this mailing list and the original subject. In responce to the original question; being VAC banned in source is not a ban from non-source games, and vice versa is true. Being VAC banned in a non-source game

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread John Sheu
I think that in the end, the best bet will be social pressure. Vis: pay $RAP_ARTIST some $LARGE sum of money and have them wrap about how hax is not cool, foo' and the problem should resolve itself. We should start taking up a collection now. ___ To

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread -=LE=- Doomed
- From: Cam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning * snip * Not to be impolite, but it seems to me like we're deviating from the purpose of this mailing list and the original subject. In responce

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Banning

2005-10-25 Thread -=LE=- Doomed
steambans.com Very similar to what your talking about...been going strong since it started.. There are some interesting social issues, as well as technical issues of trust bubbling to the surface here. I'll throw an idea out, and I look forward to seeing it shredded to bits. :) What