Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Cool ! ! ! "McKown, John" Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/07/2010 12:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Some do remote mirroring of DASD. Or use virtual tape where the virtual tape

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread McKown, John
ance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread Bill Munson
Mirrored DASD Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman & CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 From: "Ward, Mike S" To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/07/2010 12:44 PM Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Sent by:

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread Ward, Mike S
What does everyone without tape do for Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > Date: Wed

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread David Boyes
to a TCP socket. Or just deal with a 2nd level system that has no tape. -- db On 10/6/10 12:56 PM, "Mark Wheeler" wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:42:53 -0500 > From: nix.rob...@mayo.edu > Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > I think th

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Pace
M z/VM Operating System > > 10/06/2010 03:23 PM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > Subject > Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > > > > George, VMARC files should be uploaded to VM binary mode, re

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Dave, Do you know where I can find the VMARC module? Dave Jones Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/06/2010 03:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George, VMARC files should be uploaded to VM

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:34:03 -0500 > From: d...@vsoft-software.com > Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Frank, while I think having a simple virtual tape server for CNMS is a > good idea, it wouldn't solve our problems with SPXTAPE; it

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
And, the VSE side of IBM already has most of the code writtenVSE/VTAPE. The IP flavor, should work under VM with only minor changes. The VSAM flavor, well since the VM side sun setted VSE/VSAM, and a CMS minidisk is limited to the size of a pack, there might be a lot more work in conve

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
> > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of RPN01 > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:43 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > I think this is an issue th

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
ing System > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > > > > > > George, have a go at it and let me know what you thinkand please pay > close attention to the restrictions and limitations mentioned in

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
; > > > Dave Jones > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > 10/06/2010 12:03 PM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > > > > &g

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 02:50 EDT, "Quay, Jonathan (IHG)" wrote: > Is VSSI an IBM business partner? They already have a virtual tape on > minidisk product. There are others I'm sure. VSSI is an ISV. IBM Business Partners are people who sell you IBM-branded solutions. Alan Altmark z/

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 12:56 EDT, Mark Wheeler wrote: > > I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set > > of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no > > longer e

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 12:56 EDT, Mark Wheeler wrote: > > I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set > > of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no > > longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape backups. We no

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:43 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:42:53 -0500 > From: nix.rob...@mayo.edu > Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set > of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and m

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
; > > Dave Jones > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > 10/06/2010 12:03 PM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > > > > > > I don&#x

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Dave. This is just what I need. Dave Jones Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/06/2010 12:03 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues I don't want to come across as bragging, but there is th

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
I don't want to come across as bragging, but there is the SFB spool file backup/restore utility available now. It's: 1) free 2) backs up and restores SDF file to/from CMS files 3) can handle NSS as well as DCSS, IMG, RDR/PRT/PUN, NLS, SDFs 4) For RDR/PRT/PUN files, it groups all the UR spool files

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
ielsen > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > 10/05/2010 04:29 PM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: IPL VM/VM Issues > > > > > > > As others have point

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread RPN01
I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape backups. We no longer have any tape drives, real or virtual, attached to the systems, so SPX

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
SPXTAPE only supports tape. You could use DCSSBKUP and DCSSRSAV for some of the SDF's, but not all. There are past discussions in the archives that discuss the general issue. There are references to pipes and/or 3rd party products that may also help. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:4

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Operating System 10/05/2010 04:29 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or other guests unless L2 has access to those disks. Stating it from a diff

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Kris Buelens
;CP SET RUN ON" > > Cmd="CP TERM CONMODE 3270"nl||, > > "CP IPL 06F8 CLEAR LOADPARM 0009" > > Queue Cmd > > Exit > > > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > > > > > -------------- > > *From:* The

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Mike & Mike, everything came up fine. Michael Coffin Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/05/2010 05:44 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues That’s correct, you do not respond START with sta

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Coffin
October 05, 2010 5:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34:24 z/VM V5 R4.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0802 (64-BIT) 17:34:24 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2008-11-28 AT 19:22:25, LOADED FROM 54XRES 17

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
IC" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/05/2010 04:39 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34:24 z/VM V5 R4.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0802 (64-BIT) 17:34:24 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2008-11-28 AT 19:22:25, LOADED FROM 54XRES 17:34:24 17:34:24 17:34:24

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/05/2010 05:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Shorter still: ?l2=length(diag(00))>40 /* We're running a 2nd level VM */ Then something like: If

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
"The IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/05/2010 03:39 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To determine if you are running under 1st level VM or another level, us this in your PROFILE EXEC (REXX):

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
=40) MyLevel=Length(D00Data)/40 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Brian Nielsen
As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or other guests unless L2 has access to those disks. Stating it from a different angle - you should never give your L2 guest access to anything you don't want it to have access to. It's no different than keeping your z/OS

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
e IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/05/2010 02:50 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George and (Mike) Do not forget the even closer VM user group meetings like MVMUA here in Jersey City. http://w

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Bill Munson
://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ VM Project Officer - SHARE http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/05/2010 03:41 PM Subject:Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System How could the L2 machine bring them up

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
he IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL VM/VM Issues L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which have all been

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/05/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject IPL VM/VM Issues L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which have all been

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Pace
As long as your L2 system doesn't have the disks attached for your z/OS and Linux guests, they will fail to start, so no issues with corruption. However I would probably use NOAUTOLOG just to be safe. TCPIP will need to be changed, at least the IP address, before starting it up. Defining GRAF an

IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which have all been made unique, ie 540 becoming 54X. I plan to ipl as follows: system reset term conmode 3270 set mach esa I 125b clear loadparm 009 START COLD DRAIN To be safe, I suppose I should also add N