Karen, I decided to get one of those new bits that have apple flavor and
easy on the mouth snaffle bit with plastic, I put it a little lower so he
could
sample the taste of the new toy. He kinda liked that but it was making
everyone else a little nervous so up went the bit in the mouth
And what is a symptom that the horse isn't yet forward...? His legs
aren't coming up under him, or may even be trailing out behind.
I don't get it?
Susan, first, I'm sorry you took my post so strongly. I didn't mean it to
personal towards you, towards anyone else, or towards any horse. As
In natural horsemanship, how do we teach a horse to give to the bit?
... to tip his head left and right?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
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On 08/07/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok. This is too weird. My horse's name is Dagur.
And my husband's name is Kevin. LOL.
That is weirdha..
Wanda
On 09/07/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In natural horsemanship, how do we teach a horse to give to the bit?
... to tip his head left and right?
My limited understanding of this is that tipping the nose is a BIG
no-no. What you want to achieve is for the horse to turn his head
from
On 09/07/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In natural horsemanship, how do we teach a horse
to give to the bit?
... to tip his head left and right?
then:--- Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My limited understanding of this is that tipping
the nose is a BIG no-no. What you
There you go again Susan with the exercises they know well serving as
reassurance. I like that concept and see it at work with Hunter.
What other well-known activities do you use to reassure your horses?
Nancy
From: Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In roundness, the energy of the horse is within the circle, which bisects
his mouth and his feet.
What do you mean by roundness? Are you referring to a round, collected
frame? Where did this information come from?
Mary
Sand Lake, NY
oh! there are even
reverse dapples
janice
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On 7/9/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In natural horsemanship, how do we teach a horse to give to the bit?
... to tip his head left and right?
i dont have a clue how its supposed to be done. I did it by standing
on the ground and applying pressure to a rein and the very instant
Dear Wonderful CyberFriends,
Just a quick note, will update more later. HUGINN IS HOME~!! WOOHOO!
Lots to share...he is still on meds, still a bit off feed and still naked.
I couldn't sleep last nite, I kept getting up and going out to check
on him. My hubby was ready to throw a pillow at me.
dapples are a totally different genetic marker. Dapples exist on
their own, in any color, even black.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
Thank you. Still a baby? Well, like I've said many times, when I
look in the mirror I'm usually startled by the grey hair and wrinkles
because how I feel inside doesn't match the age I look.
V
sometimes i marvel that my moms hands somehow got stuck on the bottom
of my arms.
Janice
--
nonono. she's doing poker joe. Tommy turvey;'s horse Poker Joe
does this and he sits on his belly and holds on to his front legs like
handlebars and pedals them back and forth. You missed your chance to
hop on her karen and do the poker joe act!
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
On 7/8/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's our daughter Abby, still wearing some of the mud she and Smoke
plunged into. Horse on the left is my Hunter.
Nancy
she is too cute! how old is she! maybe we coiuld fix her up with
wandas gorgeous son.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What other well-known activities do you use to
reassure your horses?
The one-rein stop is my main one I use with Whisper.
We have done it on the trail only when she gets
nervous and antsy above the walk and has ignored my
repeated half-halts. This is
I think annaleise said one time... that if an icelandic has very
large cannon bone, that the tapes are a little off... I dont recall,
I just remember at the time I had weighed nasi and he was 750...
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
There is a dressage symposium on rfdtv this week, some famous german
dressage guy giving it. he says something interestingh i thought, not
maybe really to do with this exact topic, but in the show he says I
want you all to understand that German dressage as we know it was
developed for the
I did cure that pace! by Lee, or is it Liz... anyway. really
works. I mean, jaspar will always be pacey, he has pacey
conformation, but it got him out of the hard pace and where he will do
some other gaits now, not quite sure what they are! But I know for a
fact he does a nice relaxed
I am also looking for a duett to try on Lukka. Either a dressage or
trail model. One of the wide trees. Probably not the widest.
Working with babies no let me rephrase that...playing with babies is
always good. It teaches them to trust humans and enjoy our company.
That's my thoughts on the subject anyway. We're always respectful of them
and ensure they remain respectful of us...we don't want any bad habits
what a great picture! what gait?! He looks to be reachingg
with his nose like Liz says they need to do with a rw or foxtropt...
he is doing his tail like jaspar does at the stepping pace. Jaspar
holds his tail a certain way, like he is using it to help :)
janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
Probably a bad idea. She just turned 40 and has three kids, the oldest 16.
She teaches second grade. But let me see if I can find a picture of
grandaughter Sarah who just finished her freshman year and has been admitted
into a program I can't remember the name of - Susan would know - she will be
Here in Oregon it's important to get them to bend around your leg because
there are knee-knocker trees along the narrow single track trails. I like
to be able to bend my horse around the trees and most of them learn it real
quickly because it is not just an exercise.
Nancy
She looks great
Where do you live Nancy? I don't want to have either one of us having
to travel too far to visit the grandkids. :)
Wanda
On 7/9/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here in Oregon it's important to get them to bend around your leg because
there are knee-knocker trees along the narrow single track trails. I like
to be able to bend my horse around the trees and most of them learn it real
quickly because it
Just a quick note, will update more later. HUGINN IS
HOME~!! WOOHOO!
Yeah!
Happy Trails from Lori
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That could be a problem. We live in Oregon and already have grandkids we
rarely see because they live in New Jersey and Maui.
I'm drawing a blank, but remember you live somewhere northeast and snowy.
Where is it again?
I do have another brainiac grandaughter who is a scholarship student at
You're right. What I ask them to do is become C-shaped - lateral curve in
the spine from the poll to the croup, just like you would ask for if you
were trotting nice round dressage-type circles in the ring.
Nancy
On 09/07/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That could be a problem. We live in Oregon and already have grandkids we
rarely see because they live in New Jersey and Maui.
I'm drawing a blank, but remember you live somewhere northeast and snowy.
Where is it again?
Vanscoy,
On 7/9/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 09/07/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That could be a problem. We live in Oregon and already have grandkids we
rarely see because they live in New Jersey and Maui.
I'm drawing a blank, but remember you live somewhere
and besides that you have to think about your grandchildren saying
eh? all the time. Like you would say hey you want sum watermelon
and they would go eh? and if you said something like in some
people homes they have paintings of Jesus but here we have Robert E.
lee and they might say eh? Who
oh man those would be cute grandkids. I want dibs on being
aunt janice or as my nephew calls me onnjun
janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
On 09/07/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is where the name sasqwatch derives from. he lives there.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
He's our neighbour...his name is Bob.
Wanda
the only difference i see is that he appears to be in a turn...
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
this is why I couldnt fix my daughter up with wandas son, first of all
she's way way older but mainly, i think if she went to wandas house
from orlando in winter it would be like they say a person dropped out
of a helicopter onto the summit of mount everest would only live like
20 minutes.
Janice
--- Mary Arena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The angle between the croup and back is closer to
the neutral and round frames.
I see it!
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i found that getting stonewall going around barrels
really helped with going around trees,
That's what I can do since I don't have any trees to
practice on!
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here in Oregon it's important to get them to bend
around your leg because there are knee-knocker trees
What's a tree? And a single track? I guess that's
nothing like the two track jeep trails in the desert.
I do occasionally have to avoid a tamarask
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
she will be doing ultrasound imaging after she
graduates in three more years.
Ultrasound tech are top of the food chain meaning
she will be able to get a job ANYWHERE she wants. Is
she going to stay near you? I could certainly get her
a job at our
Thanks Susan.
It is my understanding that she will have an externship where they might
send her anywhere in the Unites States. She's at school on a soccer
scholarship so her coach will be trying hard to get her a place at the
hospital in Klamath Falls - used to be Merle West. I think it has a
This ride on Saturday was an absolute blast. The first half at least was on
a narrow trail in the forest around a mountain lake. We had water
crossings, logs to cross and a lot of zoom zoom winding through the trees.
Can you spell speed rack?
The second half was mainly unimproved dirt roads and
On 7/9/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 09/07/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is where the name sasqwatch derives from. he lives there.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
He's our neighbour...his name is Bob.
Wanda
HAHA. My momma, bless her heart, before she
Just a quick note, will update more later. HUGINN IS HOME~!! WOOHOO!
Give him a hug from all of us at Wind Gait Icelandics!
Karen Thomas
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First, let's define round or roundness, so that we can see if we're
all in agreement of the definition, and what to look for in round /
roundness. Definition?
Well, I guess it's one of those terms that is a continuum, something seen in
degrees, with no absolute end-point. Since I'm a pleasure,
here is the pacieiest horse around, with pacey conformation, with a back
that is rounded, actually his backbone sticks up above the muscle so dont
know what you would call that.
I think roundness is defined going the length-wise direction of the horse - if
we look for roundness around the
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't expect to see very much roundness in a
horse at liberty -
Then why would it be a goal under saddle?? To make
the horse conform to OUR ideals?
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm referring to Lee's statement in the section, How Does a Horse Do a
Pace or Stepping Pace, on page 157: Horses that pace always do so with
hollow or slightly swayed backs. I don't think Stormur's back is
always
hollow or slightly swayed when he
is HE round??
He's not obviously hollow in that picture, is he? I'd bet he looks pretty
different though when he's in a different mindset, speeding along..?
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
well its sorta a trick question since he's pacey, yet his spine curves
in a rounded way. when
nasi round??
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
attachment: boys4.jpg
I am told the pics dont do it justice, that it was purchased in march and
is like brand new. So if you want to bypass the 6 week wait and want a
cool color and you dont need the
extended seat, this one might interest you.
You know, that brown one is just screaming out for Orri...or for
I don't expect to see very much roundness in a horse at liberty -
Then why would it be a goal under saddle?? To make the horse conform to
OUR ideals?
No, because horses aren't really built to carry weight. So they need help
learning to use their backs if we're going to ask them to do
well its sorta a trick question since he's pacey, yet his spine curves in a
rounded way. when just standing around. is it roach back? I think
probably so...So its hard for me to understandd a lot of this conversation.
Since he is never hollow even when he's hollow, cause his spine
On 7/9/07, Mary Arena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with you. However, in training, you never start with your goal.
You have to go through a teaching process to teach the horse to move from
back to front.
on the rfdtv dressage symposium he kinda talked about this, abourt
German dressage
In roundness, the energy of the horse is within the circle, which bisects
his mouth and his feet.
What do you mean by roundness? Are you referring to a round, collected
frame? Where did this information come from?
By roundness, I'm using the accepted use by classical dressage. It's not
a good video of nasi doing an excellent western pleasure quarterhorse
lope (honestly, it looks just like one to me, one of those ideal
peanut roller lopes all the wgc quarterhorses do) and a cute little
nos-nos I'm HAPPY! buck at the end :)
Since I'm a pleasure, I don't even think in terms of a significant
degree of roundness
Uh...excuse me. I think I should have said that I'm a pleasure RIDER. :)
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
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Hi Janice,
well its sorta a trick question since he's pacey, yet his spine curves
in a rounded way. when just standing around. is it roach back? I
think probably so...So its hard for me to understandd a lot of this
conversation. Since he is never hollow even when he's hollow, cause
his spine
On 7/9/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My first thought on looking at him is that he has a roach back. Which horse
is this? He doesn't walk with a pacey walk so it is interesting that he is
so pacey.
its Jaspar, and actually, his gait is changing lately and I dont know
why!
here is the pacieiest horse around, with pacey conformation, with a
back that is rounded, actually his backbone sticks up above the muscle
so dont know what you would call that. is HE round??
The back is not the sole focus of roundness.
The conformation of the back is different, of
My first thought on looking at him is that he has a roach back. Which
horse is this? He doesn't walk with a pacey walk so it is interesting that
he is so pacey.
I think that's another of the terms that are hard to describe in e-mail, if
we don't have specific benchmarks to judge our terms by.
Think you had it right the first time.
Nancy
Twist, who is of course not an Icelandic, did a hard pace at the track (STB)
and under saddle. He has a lovely lazy canter and an emerging ability to
trot.
I have read that some Standardbreds find it very difficult to canter,
probably because of that wired-in paciness.
Nancy
The greatest
i am toying with the idea of bringing jaspar to the Liz clinic. For
one thing, it would be interesting to see what she could do with a
lost cause. as for his paceyness, is the degree of paceyness based
on how often they pace, or how awful it is. because the latter was
how I was judging it. His
I have read that some Standardbreds find it very difficult to canter,
probably because of that wired-in paciness.
I've only know a half dozen Standarbreds, but I'd expect them to have a
similar range of gaitedness (per individual, and across the breed) as most
gaited breeds. I know one who
as for his paceyness, is the degree of paceyness based on how often they
pace, or how awful it is. because the latter was how I was judging it.
That's a good question. Personally, I always consider it the other way: if
they can't do anything but pace at any speed, or if most of the other
Bia said:
DO IT FOR THE CIRCLE OF GOOD ENERGY THAT SURROUNDS
ALL OF US! It will come back to you.
How does that work?
Is that karma?
Does it have a connection to the secret?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
Let's talk about the brachiocephalicus.
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
On 7/9/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as for his paceyness, is the degree of paceyness based on how often they
pace, or how awful it is. because the latter was how I was judging it.
That's a good question. Personally, I always consider it the other way: if
they can't do
judy... it is what it is... positive thinking and positive energy will
attract positive energy. The secret is just a book someone wrote saying what
ancient cultures already know and teach. Like the saying What goes around
comes around (negative and positive)... And as in christianity the
On 7/9/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's talk about the brachiocephalicus.
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is?
uhmn no?
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
On 7/9/07, Bia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
judy... it is what it is... positive thinking and positive energy will
attract positive energy. The secret is just a book someone wrote saying what
ancient cultures already know and teach. Like the saying What goes around
comes around (negative and
Yes, hat is true Janice, and giving does not have to be financial, it
can be helping someone paint thier house... or organize their Garage,
( Oprah was just on, LOL )
Debbie in MN Huginn's Hospital Fund sites http://iceryder.net/ravenhuginn.html
Bia,
I really like you, I almost copied your phrase for the bottom of my current
signiture line...
I LOVE IT, When I read it Smiled... cause it is so true...
--
Debbie in MN Huginn's Hospital Fund sites
http://iceryder.net/ravenhuginn.html
In my limited experience and based on the opinions of the folks on the
gaited endurance list, a hard pace is going to be an uncomfortable ride no
matter what. They would equate pacyness with how deeply ingrained it is as
a primary intermediate gait and not how uncomfortable it is to ride.
Nancy
On 7/9/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my limited experience and based on the opinions of the folks on the
gaited endurance list, a hard pace is going to be an uncomfortable ride no
matter what. They would equate pacyness with how deeply ingrained it is as
a primary intermediate
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is?
I don't have my medical or Greek and Latin dictionaries here in KY. But
let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with
arms attached? Hahah?
Anneliese
So Judy, what is it - you would not ask if you did not already
Oh - someone in Twist's past spent some nice ring time with him and one of
the things he does nicely is a half pass - maybe that's what they were
doing.
Nancy
But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a
skull with arms attached? Hahah?
OR...maybe the area between the arms and the skull...? The neck...?
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
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They would equate pacyness with how deeply ingrained it is as a primary
intermediate gait and not how uncomfortable it is to ride.
I tend not to believe the ingrained part as much as some people do. I do
believe that habit and muscle memory are factors, but I also suspect that, many
times
On 09/07/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a
skull with arms attached? Hahah?
OR...maybe the area between the arms and the skull...? The neck...?
When in doubt google...
http://www.justequine.com/photos.html
You'll
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a good video of nasi doing an excellent western
pleasure quarterhorse
lope (honestly, it looks just like one to me, one of
those ideal
peanut roller lopes all the wgc quarterhorses do)
and a cute little
nos-nos I'm HAPPY! buck at the end :)
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I sold my Sensation G3 trail saddle. I still have
for sale the
Trekker for 350, pic attached. Also, my new used
Sensation Hybrid
should arrive tomorrow and if it is too small it
will be for sale,
What a nice saddle. I wish I could buy it.
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is?
Not really. I did a google search on it, and all I found was pretty
technical. Can you get us started?
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
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This afternoon I got my Equus magizine. The first thing my mom said
was that my pony, Jakey, was on the cover. And low and behold the pony
of the front look just like him. The cover story was about
Connemaras. I have finally been able to post pictures of Jakey in the
picture section. Tell
Karen Thomas wrote:
I was looking through some old pictures and found a couple from our first
trip to visit Robyn, Phil and Christine (in March 2003) that I liked. I
believe the bay is Lettir, but I don't recognize that pinto.
Wow! Thanks for posting that pic, Karen. Lettir is Kopar's sire.
this is what it says on the link that was posted a few posts ago...
Brachiocephalicus permits the neck to bend and it also moves the shoulder
forward. If your horse has problems bending to the inside, massaging of
these muscles will help allow a greater range of motion in the neck.
The pinto is Faxi, Karen Harvey owns him - so I think he is back in
Alaska??
Is she on the list? If not, if anyone has her e-mail address, feel free to
forward it.
Karen
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Wingate, NC
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this is what it says on the link that was posted a few posts ago...
Brachiocephalicus permits the neck to bend and it also moves the shoulder
forward. If your horse has problems bending to the inside, massaging of
these muscles will help allow a greater range of motion in the neck.
here's
On 7/9/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taken from the balcony of the BB we stayed at. This is getting way off
topic - sorry, just taking a walk down memory lane! :)
Wow!!
I had hoped to attend a clinic in BC this summer--not sure I'll make
it, but I will go one day for sure!
V
On 09/07/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taken from the balcony of the BB we stayed at. This is getting way off
topic - sorry, just taking a walk down memory lane! :)
Were you at Emmy's?
It's a beautiful spot.
Wanda
On 09/07/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The babe maybe, but not so skinny compared to what I used to be! I'd
love to have the saddle but I know that hubby would have a hairy fit
if I buy another saddle at this present time..
:(
V
Oh...they all say they'll have a fit.
Odd angle, yes, but can you tell? This is the same horse whose picture I
just sent.
Karen Thomas, NC
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Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is?
I don't have my medical or Greek and Latin dictionaries here in KY. But
let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with
arms attached? Hahah?
That was a great guess, Anneliese!
Here's what it is:
On 09/07/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Odd angle, yes, but can you tell? This is the same horse whose picture I
just sent.
Pace.
Wanda
Pace.
Yes, not very broken at all.
Did you see the post where I sent several pics at once of him? What do you
see in those?
Karen
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Wingate, NC
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Karen Thomas wrote:
Not one of mine, just a picture I have. Can anyone tell me what gait from
this angle?
Pace?
Trish
Were you at Emmy's? It's a beautiful spot.
Yes, that time. The next time we stayed in Vernon - I was working and needed
internet access. Did you stay with her?
Karen
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Were you at Emmy's? It's a beautiful spot.
Yes, that time. The next time we stayed in Vernon - I was working and needed
internet access. Did you stay with her?
Karen
Yes, she was wonderful to Cara and I. We really enjoyed her company.
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