A good trainer will ride the horse-of-the-moment, and will make
adjustments as needed...without worrying
> what the breed is.
Well said, Karen, well said!
For the record. the second best trotting horse I ever owned was a 16 h
off-track appendix quarter horse. The best ever was a 15.3 h Thor
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 07:04:36AM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote:
> No, when someone says they have to have a "special trainer" for an Icelandic
> pony, I immediately wonder how much REAL horse experience that person
> has...it's usually not much.
>
>
> Isn't it sad that some people are swayed by for
Isn't it amazing that he would be brought in by the USIHC to teach
here? I mean, use plain old common sense in watching his horses and riders
ride, and anyone can see the unnaturalness of it.
And isn't it just amazing that people think that you have to have "special"
trainers to train Icela
Hi Mic
>>>Ah, Robyn, remember the good old days in Switzerland washing dye off
Skrudur's leg and cutting up old towels to use as face masks to keep
the flies off? ; )
Oh do I remember! I had to go to a beauty parlour and find dye remover and
his leg ended up looking more like clay than white.
I
. I
>see many competitive people that just stop showing when they see what
>happens to so many horses 'to win a ribbon' and work towards making horses
>more comfortable and having a better relationship with their people.
In all the excitement and preparations for the WC I got really
enthusiastic
> BTW...I'm getting too old to beat around the bush.
> I'll be 50 within
> a few months...and I just don't see an advantage to
> being subtle
You are a spring chicken.
Lorraine
Be a better friend,
On 31/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh Wanda, I have missed your incredible talent for those succinct one-liners!
> As usual, you have summed up the situation precisely. That's exactly it.
Well...I miss your 'snorts'. Nice to have you back.
BTW...I'm getting too old
I think Maria treats her tractor rather better than she treats me.
Well I don't think I'll be asking Bruce to choose between me and the
tractor - unless this continued winter weather REALLY gets to me. We do
have a son in Maui.
Nancy
> I don't
> think we are going to change the minds of the people deeply embedded
> in the world of show Icelandics but I do feel there is good being done
> in those people on the periphery that might go either way - depending
> on their influence.<
I agree Laree.I think the goal is not so much
> >The problem is that to the rest of the world, that type of riding
> >paints us all with the same brush...the whole breed becomes tainted.
Oh Wanda, I have missed your incredible talent for those succinct one-liners!
As usual, you have summed up the situation precisely. That's exactly it.
-
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:19:56 -0800, you wrote:
>generations away from a time when horses were treated a little less well
>than tractors are today.
I think Maria treats her tractor rather better than she treats me.
; )
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
>
> I think comes down to a person's perspective on what is abuse, and what is
> training and what your goals are with your own animals.
Exactly! I think we need to remember that we in the U.S. are a mere two
generations away from a time when horses were treated a little less well
than tractor
> While many of us on the list like to take credit for some of the
> positive changes (such as they are) I personally don't think any of
> the movers and shakers in Icelandics in Europe are the slightest bit
> bothered one way or the other by what you lot over there, and us on
> our little island,
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:01:38 -0500, you wrote:
> While many of us on the list like to take credit for some of the
>positive changes (such as they are) I personally don't think any of the
>movers and shakers in Icelandics in Europe are the slightest bit bothered
>one way or the other by what yo
>The problem is that to the rest of the world, that type of riding
>paints us all with the same brush...the whole breed becomes tainted.
I know, and that is SUCH a shame. It's noticeable over here that when
we do displays at non-horsey events (like village fetes, Viking
re-enactments etc) we seem
Hi Mic,
>>>I know I'm not Robyn, but I think it's becoming more and more
polarized between those of us who are "thinking riders" and those who
want to win competitions at any price.
This is so true. If you look at Klaus Balkenhol and the Xenophen club it is
anti Rollkur etc and the distance betwe
While many of us on the list like to take credit for some of the
positive changes (such as they are) I personally don't think any of the
movers and shakers in Icelandics in Europe are the slightest bit bothered
one way or the other by what you lot over there, and us on our little
island, say o
So, how did we get to the point of having trainers strong-arm the
Icelandic Horses into gaits?
Machismo? After all, the Icelandic show world is still dominated by men.
I guess "real men" (said with much sarcasm) don't like to admit that they
are riding sweet, gentle, easy-going, easy-to-tra
> Walter Jr is the trainer coming to teach the trainers course in the US
> which
> is why his name has come up on this list recently. He is extremely
> demanding of horses and IMO quite hard on them,
>>>horses that had to be trained via strong-armed tactics
This is really sad for the breed.
On 31/01/2008, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure how much effect - if any - we have had, or will ever have
> - on the dedicated competition people where it seems things just keep
> getting harder and harder for the horses. : (
The problem is that to the rest of the world, that
> rather than polite, used to have the reputation for some rather dodgy
> shoeing practices on competition horses, developed his own horse breed
> sells lots of horses, makes training videos, writes
> books, gives lots of courses etc etc etc. Not thought well of
> generally on this list due to his
Walter Jr is the trainer coming to teach the trainers course in the US
which is why his name has come up on this list recently. He is
extremely demanding of horses and IMO quite hard on them, however, I
was seen as way to soft so it is all in the eyes of the beholder and
>
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:23:44 -0600, you wrote:
>I think things are changing Robyn. very very slowly, but one by one,
>things are changing. Do you feel that way? Or do you feel it is
>hopeless. I do sometimes.
I know I'm not Robyn, but I think it's becoming more and more
polarized between thos
> Walter Jr is the trainer coming to teach the trainers course in the US which
> is why his name has come up on this list recently. He is extremely
> demanding of horses and IMO quite hard on them, however, I was seen as way
> to soft so it is all in the eyes of the beholder and what you are will
> German Icehorse trainer and guru, son of Walter
> Feldmann senior, been
> there, done that, won every icehorse competition
> there is in Europe
Thanks Mic
Lorraine
Looking for last minute shopping de
Hi Lorraine,
>>>Another dumb question. Who is Walter?
Walter Feldman, Jr is a German trainer and breeder of Icelandic horses. He
and his father Walter Feldman Sr (deceased) also developed the Aigedenberger
(sp is wrong) - a cross of Peruvian and Icelandic. I met Walter Jr in 1976
on the Great
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:40:04 -0800, you wrote:
> Another dumb question. Who is Walter?
German Icehorse trainer and guru, son of Walter Feldmann senior, been
there, done that, won every icehorse competition there is in Europe
including several World Championships. Renowned for being outspoken
rat
>
> Another dumb question. Who is Walter?
>
> Lorraine - there are no dumb questions.
Nancy
>
> Yes it is Walter.
>
Another dumb question. Who is Walter?
Lorraine
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:02:53 -0500, you wrote:
>It looks like Walter Feldman to me, but I'm not sure.
I thought that too.
At least he's in a nice soft school rather than on the road or
something. I would have got off and checked the horse was ok, but then
maybe he did after the video ended (the
> > I generally just grab some mane, to
> stay on, and let the horse work it out. My
> instincts tell me that trying to stay steady myself
> is probably the best thing I could do for them. I'm
> not sure that taking up contact is going to help
> them?
>
Scooter fell to his knees one tim
Hi
>>> Who is this rider? I don't suppose it matters. I wouldn't know him
anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnQXCUnspU
>>>It looks like Walter Feldman to me, but I'm not sure.
Yes it is Walter.
Robyn
Icelandic Horse Farm
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
> That's not what I'd guess he's saying either - not that I understand
> German
> swear words...
I don't think they're in German! :o)
Cheryl
Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses
www.sandcreekicelandics.com
>>> I think you're right and the rider in the video is not only yanking on
>>> the horse's reins, he seems to be issuing some kind of a correction.
>>> Again, I can't understand the language, but I don't think he's saying
>>> "Oh, you poor thing, here let me help you to your feet."
That's not
I think the reason I try to allow my horses to find their own balance
when they trip on rough ground, roots, rocks or whatever is that I
caused a very nice Thoroughbred mare to have a very bad fall. A friend
and I were riding down a slippery embankment to ford a creek in ord
>>> Bruce, who hasn't ridden since about 1963, wants to know" Why does he have
>>> him pulled up so short?"
Good question. If the horse can't use his head to help with his balance...and
if his head is held high, then it seems natural to me that the horse can't see
where he's going. And if h
>
> To me, yanking on the reins is a gut reaction.
>
> What do you think?
I think you're right and the rider in the video is not only yanking on the
horse's reins, he seems to be issuing some kind of a correction. Again, I
can't understand the language, but I don't think he's saying "Oh, you p
On Jan 30, 2008 9:03 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you think?
I think that it depends on the horse. ;)
On very balanced horses I grab mane and give them their heads.
Especially strong minded balanced horses, if they're trail savvy then
they know far better how to regain
On 30/01/2008, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce, who hasn't ridden since about 1963, wants to know" Why does he have
> him pulled up so short?"
There is quite a ewe neck apparent in that riding style isn't there?
Now, if a horse is ridden in that fashion, that also means that the
ba
It looks like Walter Feldman to me, but I'm not sure.
Sounds like his voice.
Nancy
Bruce, who hasn't ridden since about 1963, wants to know" Why does he have
him pulled up so short?"
I do have a question about the stumble. When Bev has a horse stumble (and
eventually one will) she takes up on the reins to help the horse to regain
his footing. When I have a horse stumble (an
On 30/01/2008, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess horses and ponies can trip over about anything, but I'd be checking
> for a reason for a trip that big, especially on what seems to be flat,
> groomed track.
If I recall correctly we were ripping across the front lawn, up onto
the
>>> Who is this rider? I don't suppose it matters. I wouldn't know him
>>> anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnQXCUnspU
It looks like Walter Feldman to me, but I'm not sure.
>>> When I was a kid, I had a little pony trip like this and I immediately got
>>> off and checked her ove
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnQXCUnspU
One of the previous comments that got lost in the shuffle:
"im not saying the weight is the issue or the size of the rider. God
forgive me for being the only one here who cares about a horses well
being"
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
44 matches
Mail list logo
