A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Carson, Brad
We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM. The sizing parameters for the guests (Oracle DB, and WebLogic) are being sent to us based on intel platform sizing. How do some of you handle the sizing conversion from Intel to IFL's? Are there some rules of thumb, we should kn

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Agblad Tore
Carson, Brad [cars...@labcorp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 14:00 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM. The sizing parameters for the guests (Oracle DB, and WebLogic) are being sent to

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Agblad Tore Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests just enough so it doesn't swap, then add 300K perhaps and two small (max 100k) virtual swapdisks and a larger 'real' swapdisk

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Barton Robinson
First rule of thumb, don't guess. Since Oracle SGA can be anywhere from a few hundred megabytes to 10's of gigabytes, you need to size the server larger than the SGA. If you undersize the server, you WILL have undesirable performance. On intel they size based on low cost of storage and I/O avoid

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread RPN01
If you're using IBM style DASD as your disk storage, you'll want to size the linux image's memory considerably smaller than what is suggested for an Intel processor. The first reason is that you have several levels of cache before the data even gets to the linux image. These layers (controller, z/

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
t SGA and such. Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: donderdag 4 februari 2010 14:17 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests If you're using IBM style DASD as your disk stora

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Damian Gallagher
all as possible. Also try to limit SGA and such. Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: donderdag 4 februari 2010 14:17 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests If you're usi

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Ron Wells
sounds familiar >> the book tells them to.. From: "van Sleeuwen, Berry" To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/04/2010 08:32 AM Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests Sent by: Linux on 390 Port We have some oracle guests that have been set to 1G. And they ac

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Damian Gallagher
Yep - I'd be interested to know which books if they are Oracle publications. -Original Message- From: Ron Wells [mailto:rwe...@agfinance.com] Sent: 04 February 2010 15:02 To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests sounds familiar >> the

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Dave Jones
ble online, including the ones from our very own Barton Robinson. On 02/04/2010 09:02 AM, Ron Wells wrote: sounds familiar>> the book tells them to.. From: "van Sleeuwen, Berry" To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 02/04/2010 08:32 AM Subject: Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Gu

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Carson, Brad Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:01 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests We have a project that is being setup to run on RHEL under z/VM.

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
2010/2/4 van Sleeuwen, Berry : > We have some oracle guests that have been set to 1G. And they actually > need only 300M. The rest is occupied in cache (between 650 and 710M). Be aware! The Oracle SGA lives in Linux page cache, together with in-use programs and shared libraries. So on Oracle syst

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
O, I didn't know that. I'd expected the reported linux cache to be filesystem cache and as such not directly related to oracle. Berry. -Original Message- Be aware! The Oracle SGA lives in Linux page cache, together with in-use programs and shared libraries. So on Oracle systems it is nor

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Sterling James
e. I am aware the STMM is suppose to do that automatically, but I am suspicious of it's assumption since it does know account for running under zVM. Thx Rob van der Heij Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 02/05/2010 06:14 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sterling James wrote: > I realize that it would not be a apples to apples comparison, but is there > a similar discussion about sizing guests that are running DB2? With STMM > on? And the "Be ware!"s? Does DB2 have instrumentation that can tell you > how it's using

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread Sterling James
cc Subject Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sterling James wrote: > I realize that it would not be a apples to apples comparison, but is there > a similar discussion about sizing guests that are running DB2? With STMM > on? And the

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-05 Thread David Boyes
Another handy item for Oracle folks is: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/tech/orion/index.html Allows you to simulate Oracle I/O loads on disk configurations without actually having to install Oracle and find a database big enough to stress test your filesystem configuration and get your