Rick,
Clone the termcap entry for the ADM3 and replace the two command entries
with the appropriate sequences from your list. ADM3s only support two
functions (clear screen, and move cursor absolute). YaST has code to be
smarter when it has to do all the work itself and can't rely on the
terminal
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 06:19 -0400, Rick Troth wrote:
> Not only are some inbound converted to meaningful VT100-like sequences
> but I found out that some of the *outbound* are already handled too!
> Dunno if this was done by Boeblingen or UTSGlobal, but either way,
> nice job folks!!
Thanks, the
Thanks, Martin, for the tip!
Not only are some inbound converted to meaningful VT100-like sequences
but I found out that some of the *outbound* are already handled too!
Dunno if this was done by Boeblingen or UTSGlobal, but either way,
nice job folks!!
So ... in a pinch, I tested the followin s
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I thought it was just me, but it seems that most spouses of geeks turn
out to either be geeks themselves or at least
geek-interest-supporting.
Fuzzy
On 5/31/07, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe we should add a hall of fame for spouses on linuxvm.org...8-)
> Yeah, well, I shouldn't complain.
>
> I waxed enthusiastic over the "convert a plotter to a PCB etcher"
> article in the June Circuit Cellar, and Amy said, "you can buy me one
> of those for my birthday."
Maybe we should add a hall of fame for spouses on linuxvm.org...8-)
-- db
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>>> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 3:59 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Melin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then I must have an abberative spouse.
While my wife and yours share some very positive traits, I would have to say
that abberative doesn't even come close to being sufficient.
Mark P
On May 31, 2007, at 2:59 PM, James Melin wrote:
Then I must have an abberative spouse.
She helped me build a 6 foot tall Pentium Chip model. For a 2
minute gag. 400 lights and drew 11 amps off of batteries.
She thought it was a good idea to gut the 9672 and put it in the
garage.
She makes me b
If you ever get divorced, let me know .
K
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Then I
Then I must have an abberative spouse.
She helped me build a 6 foot tall Pentium Chip model. For a 2 minute gag. 400
lights and drew 11 amps off of batteries.
She thought it was a good idea to gut the 9672 and put it in the garage.
She makes me buy the more expensive power tool because it has mo
> You got married.
> After a while, you know better than to buy the machine in the first
> place, because you can *imagine* the look you will get when She Who
> Must Be Obeyed comes home and finds it lurking in the garage. I
> *know* whereof I speak.
Four magic words to get out of the doghouse f
On May 31, 2007, at 2:04 PM, David Boyes wrote:
Or a bigger house .
Someday I'm going to have an outbuilding with raised floor and proper
cogen equipment.
If I build it, then the machines will come...
You have made one critical mistake with that plan.
You got married.
After a while, you know
> Or a bigger house .
Someday I'm going to have an outbuilding with raised floor and proper
cogen equipment.
If I build it, then the machines will come...
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Or a bigger house .
K
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> You don't have
> You don't have any old empty S360 chassis in your garage for storage?
> Opportunities missed, huh?
No, all the 360 gear I have is live hardware. 8-)
It's the DEC-10, the DEC-2040, and the assorted PDP-11 cabinets I need
to find space for.
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> running on a Series 1(?)
Shh! I'm trying to forget those beasts ever existed. Anything that cares
in what order you power up the parts is ... traumatic. Bleah.
> Boy, that brought back lots of memories, including two weeks in
En
> running on a Series 1(?)
Shh! I'm trying to forget those beasts ever existed. Anything that cares
in what order you power up the parts is ... traumatic. Bleah.
> Boy, that brought back lots of memories, including two weeks in
Endicott
> working with one of the first 7170's and a digitizer we h
When I was at the coal company, so many ages ago, we had all these: the Yale
ASCII code running on a Series 1(?), then the 7171 controller replacing
that, and we have a 7170, which we developed code for to allow us to attach
digitizing boards directly to VM, replacing the need for our DECsystem-109
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 23:35 -0400, Rick Troth wrote:
> On an 'xterm', pressing F1 delivers an [224z sequence.
> One way to get full-screen 3270 interaction to ASCII apps
> is to have the 3270 PF1 AID converted to an [224z sequence.
With the current 3270 driver in 2.6.x kernels some PFx AID ke
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 1:01 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan
Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-snip-
> For installation, wouldn't it be more generally useful to be able to PUNCH
> a kickstart/autoyast file with the kernel? Then you could use your fave
> editor and macros to genera
On Wednesday, 05/30/2007 at 11:40 AST, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But we were talking about convincing Novell and RedHat and others
> to create a CMS-friendly, or in this case a 3270-friendly,
> installation tool. For that, crack open the code, add the logic
> to properly handle ma
On May 30, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Rick Troth wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007, John Summerfield wrote:
There are 48 or so combinations of ALT-keys that are usable, and
48 or
so combinations of cntrl-keys that are usable, and then some programs
distinguish between left-alt and right-alt giving yet another
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:40 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick Troth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is a cake walk for the distributors.
That's very wrong, in the real world of limited resources.
Mark Post
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On Wed, 30 May 2007, Rob van der Heij wrote:
> ...I could imagine that moving the
> cursor between two AID keys can be passed to the application as if a
> few arrow keys were pressed.
That's another way to do it, in addition to the [...H hack.
It's inelegant,
On Wed, 30 May 2007, John Summerfield wrote:
> There are 48 or so combinations of ALT-keys that are usable, and 48 or
> so combinations of cntrl-keys that are usable, and then some programs
> distinguish between left-alt and right-alt giving yet another 48 or so
> combinations of keys, and so far w
On Wednesday, 05/30/2007 at 02:49 ZE8, John Summerfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be possible to write block-mode applications for Linux, but
> current interactive programs expect keys to be presented asynchronously.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys th
On 5/30/07, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure I follow, but I note that some applications use some
function keys. I tend to not use short-cuts (accelerators) as in the
Linux world they're rarely obvious to me, except when they're
highlighted in a dialogue. As they are in Y
> Since one can telnet to z/VM and logon to a user (provided, of course
z/VM
> is set up to do so) Wouldn't it be easier to write some widget for CMS
to
> talk to a telnet session in a curses friendly manner rather than try
to
> grind, cut, slice and hammer out a solution to talk to 3270?
No argum
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> How hard would a 3270 based implementation of ncurses l
> How hard would a 3270 based implementation of ncurses library be? And
> would that solve the issues?
Since ncurses mostly just deals with output, probably not too bad -- I
faintly remember that Alan Crosswell had done some work on that way back
when at Columbia, but I don't remember where I stor
> > Let me say it again: TUI output to a 3270 is TRIVIAL
> > and TUI input from a 3270 is EMINENTLY DOABLE. The difference
> > between byte-at-a-time TUI apps and bock-mode TUI apps is simple
> > key assignment. Use the function keys along with bursts of text
> > and there is no problem.
This i
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 5/30/07, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How does one get a 3270 to generate these?
It would be possible to write block-mode applications for Linux, but
current interactive programs expect keys to be presented asynchronously.
One of the tricks I have e
On 5/30/07, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How does one get a 3270 to generate these?
It would be possible to write block-mode applications for Linux, but
current interactive programs expect keys to be presented asynchronously.
One of the tricks I have encountered in the past is
Rick Troth wrote:
Let me say it again: TUI output to a 3270 is TRIVIAL
and TUI input from a 3270 is EMINENTLY DOABLE. The difference
between byte-at-a-time TUI apps and bock-mode TUI apps is simple
key assignment. Use the function keys along with bursts of text
and there is no problem.
Ther
Dave ...
Great idea! Let me abuse your thread just a bit.
I cannot help but think that this is a job for inverse TN3270.
(Not sure what else to call it. Maybe "reverse protocol conversion"?)
Making a Linux distro CMS-friendly is one thing, and is VERY useful.
But making it 3270-friendly is clos
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