Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-23 Thread Gary Weber
Love the work you did here, Brian. Incredibly useful. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:10 AM Brian K. White wrote: > On 7/13/20 5:41 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > > Looks great. Might be worth adding one more hole that goes to the BCR > > data in pin for those interested in using it for input. > > I ende

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Ok now I read it. Doesn't mean I'll remember. I forget stuff I write or create myself. Very cool though. -- John.

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Stephen Adolph
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCR_TTL_SERIAL_HACK this hack works well with 8085, based on SOD, I am working on an NSC800 version, so that "Z80" modified M100s can also transmit video data out the BCR port. Background: SOD pin, normally used to drive the cassette port, can be used as

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Stephen Adolph
It is a hack I published on the wiki. It is used to for example drive data to external video. I can see I need to make my posts more fun to read!!! On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, Kurt McCullum wrote: > BCR Out? I wasn't aware that the BCR had an output pin. > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, at 3:54 PM,

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Kurt McCullum
BCR Out? I wasn't aware that the BCR had an output pin. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > yah, I got it working bi-directional but half duplex. which is acceptable > for TPDD protocol, but not normal RS-232. > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:31 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Stephen Adolph
yah, I got it working bi-directional but half duplex. which is acceptable for TPDD protocol, but not normal RS-232. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:31 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:59 AM Stephen Adolph > wrote: > >> >> I used this board to send 57600baud serial data in

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:59 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > > I used this board to send 57600baud serial data in/out of the BCR port. > Out? That's cool. I thought it was in only. -- John.

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Stephen Adolph
as a suggestion if you included a breakout for pin 2, you could also use this for Tx out on BCR, in line with the "BCR hack" I posted at the wiki. as an FYI, I have a MAX232 based adapter board that converts TTL to RS-232, for use with the BCR port. I could share that if there is interest. I used

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Kurt McCullum
Thanks for making the BCR breakout board Brian! Definitely will come in handy. Kurt On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Brian K. White wrote: > On 7/13/20 5:41 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > > Looks great. Might be worth adding one more hole that goes to the BCR > > data in pin for those interested in

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-22 Thread Brian K. White
On 7/13/20 5:41 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: Looks great. Might be worth adding one more hole that goes to the BCR data in pin for those interested in using it for input. I ended up making a separate breakout board for hacking/experimenting Breakout: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/MTOWfRkz A

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Brian K. White
Right!, Which they have in every direction and config you could want, easy on amazon, ebay, aliexpress, even startec, lots of laces. Then the kit is all very tidy. -- bkw On 7/13/20 6:08 PM, Gary Weber wrote: Actually, I should say, Right-angle USB to mini-USB cable, about 2 inches long. On

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Brian K. White
B25s are on the wrong >     side). >      > Think I'll have to build a couple myself ;-) >      > You can also get right-angle DE9 adapters: >      > https://www.winford.com/products/adr9.php >      > m >      > >      >     --

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Gary Weber
Actually, I should say, Right-angle USB to mini-USB cable, about 2 inches long. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:48 PM Gary Weber wrote: > Seems like a right-angle mini-usb connector would be just the ticket for > this. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM Brian K. White > wrote: > >> I added a version

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Gary Weber
Seems like a right-angle mini-usb connector would be just the ticket for this. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM Brian K. White wrote: > I added a version that might or might not be more acceptable for NEC. > > I have the pcb hanging down so the bottom edge of the pcb is just above > the bottom co

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Brian K. White
I added a version that might or might not be more acceptable for NEC. I have the pcb hanging down so the bottom edge of the pcb is just above the bottom corner of the laptop. That positions the usb cable far enough down that the very end of the molded boot is still below the top edge of the la

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Kurt McCullum
>> > bkw >> > >> > On 7/12/20 3:50 PM, Mike Stein wrote: >> > > >> > > Wow! That looks nasty ;-) >> > > I believe that like many RS-232 dongles the Firefly can draw its >> > power >> > > from pin 9 of the DE-9 c

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Gary Weber
little wire inside > the > > > Model T would get rid of that BCR plug & cable... just sayin'... > > > I'd also make a custom right angle adapter for the RS-232 > > connection; > > > take an in-line DB25 connector, either PCB or solder cup: >

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Brian K. White
nford.com/products/adr9.php > m > >     - Original Message - >     *From:* Gary Weber <mailto:g...@web8201.com <mailto:g...@web8201.com>> >     *To:* m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com &l

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-13 Thread Brian K. White
gt;> >     *To:* m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> >     *Sent:* Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:48 PM >     *Subject:* Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors > >

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-12 Thread Gary Weber
straight DB25 and > > right-angle DE9 (the pins on right-angle DB25s are on the wrong side). > > Think I'll have to build a couple myself ;-) > > You can also get right-angle DE9 adapters: > > https://www.winford.com/products/adr9.php > > m > > > >

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-12 Thread Gary Weber
ssage ----- > *From:* Gary Weber > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors > > Thanks, Mike. Yes that's about the size I was looking for. I'm using > them to pull power from a BCR port,

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-12 Thread Brian K. White
nal Message - *From:* Gary Weber <mailto:g...@web8201.com> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> *Sent:* Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors Thanks, Mike.  Yes that's about the size I was looking

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-12 Thread Mike Stein
aturday, July 11, 2020 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors Thanks, Mike. Yes that's about the size I was looking for. I'm using them to pull power from a BCR port, which is just 2 wires. The slimmer the better. Like this: https://www.web8201.ne

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Chris Fezzler
or-db9-de9 - Original Message - From: Gary Weber To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors Thanks for the tip, Brian.   About the best I've been able to find is this: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cin

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Gary Weber
Weber > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:26 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors > > Thanks for the tip, Brian. About the best I've been able to find is > this: > > https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cinch-co

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Mike Stein
] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors Thanks for the tip, Brian. About the best I've been able to find is this: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cinch-connectivity-solutions-aim-cambridge/40-9709H/367-1139-ND/3830261 Apparently those half-size hoods that I linked earlier a

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Gary Weber
Thanks for the tip, Brian. About the best I've been able to find is this: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cinch-connectivity-solutions-aim-cambridge/40-9709H/367-1139-ND/3830261 Apparently those half-size hoods that I linked earlier aren't made these days. On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Brian White
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/09670250411/1195-2690-ND/3181274/ -- bkw On Sat, Jul 11, 2020, 4:08 PM Brian White wrote: > I don't know about 9 pin, but Mike Stein found a really good 25 pin when I > was trying to find something good for tpdd cables. > > https://www.digikey.com/prod

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Brian White
I don't know about 9 pin, but Mike Stein found a really good 25 pin when I was trying to find something good for tpdd cables. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/09670250411/1195-2690-ND/3181274/ If I wasn't on my phone I'd just try searching "dsub" on digikey and filter by 9 pin instead of

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Mitch Parker
Gary, I may have some in stock. LMK if you want pics. Mitch On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:58 PM Gary Weber wrote: > Anyone know where you can source this style of D-sub connector anymore? I > like how slim they are. The only connectors I can find these days are > quite a bit larger. > > https:

Re: [M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Gary Weber
And by "connector" I really meant to say hood. The connectors are standard but every hood assembly out there seems to be about 3x as large as it needs to be... On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 10:58 AM Gary Weber wrote: > Anyone know where you can source this style of D-sub connector anymore? I > like

[M100] Slim style DB25/DE9 connectors

2020-07-11 Thread Gary Weber
Anyone know where you can source this style of D-sub connector anymore? I like how slim they are. The only connectors I can find these days are quite a bit larger. https://www.web8201.net/images/db9_hood.jpg https://www.web8201.net/images/db25_db9_hoods.jpg Thanks for any info, -- Gary Weber