[MBZ] This is....interesting... 1976 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $3, 400

2022-03-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
If those are AMG wheels they are worth quite a bit https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/374327887927076 --FT -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] This is interesting WUZ:It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

2020-03-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Craig via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 10:32 PM: "The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue. Craig Note the date is 2016.   This was predicted.   We've had a "sky is falling" event each year since y2k in 1999.   It

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2019-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Denial needs to trade his Silver Arrow for one. There were only 30 of these, makes it more of a rarity than the Silver Arrow. http://www.oursl.com/NewsLetter/NL0801/1997_SL500.htm Mitch. > On January 15, 2019 at 1:25 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Garish interior! > > https://

[MBZ] This is interesting

2019-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Garish interior! https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1357978-1997-sl500-la-costa-special-edition.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: h

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2017-10-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
This has been posted before, I remember the fender dent and the "paint" rust issue. I'd love to have a garage with one of these and a diesel G-wagon. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

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2017-10-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
2.3-16s are like 450SEL-6.9s, they have wheels that were only made for them, and in my opinion not having those wheels is a price deduction. Mitch. > On October 2, 2017 at 10:02 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1987-mercedes-190e-cosworth/6

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2017-10-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1987-mercedes-190e-cosworth/6325795389.html Don't see too many of these, that is probably a reasonable price --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

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2016-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting But relatively speaking, those external effects are more easily controllable and less damaging to air quality than the combustion of

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2016-12-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But relatively speaking, those external effects are more easily controllable and less damaging to air quality than the combustion of burning fossil fuels On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The manufacturing of those solar cells is not without it's own costs and > pollut

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2016-12-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The manufacturing of those solar cells is not without it's own costs and pollutants as well, and transmission loses from the cells to the hydrogen generators. TANSAAFL. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >> > The Nikola truck is supposed to get "free fuel" from Nikola M

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2016-12-07 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: The thing is that the greenies want "no tailpipe emissions" to equal "no emissions" which they don't. I had a huge argument once where my side of the argument was just me repeating "where does the hydrogen come from" over and over. My opponent had no answer, he had no idea where hyd

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2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Mountain Man via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting Peter wrote: > I always fall down laughing when people talk about "ecological" electric or > hydrogen powered cars.

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2016-12-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Peter wrote: > I always fall down laughing when people talk about "ecological" electric or > hydrogen powered cars. Fall down laughing is a good thing? The argument FOR electric or hydrogen powered cars might be that the pollution generator is a solitary point source generator rather than a diver

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2016-12-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
erick via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:16 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Peter Frederick > Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting > > Commerical quantities of hydrogen usually come from natural gas these days. > Might eventually be produced by sol

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2016-12-05 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Commerical quantities of hydrogen usually come from natural gas these days. Might eventually be produced by solar powered hydrolysis, but not currently. I always fall down laughing when people talk about "ecological" electric or hydrogen powered cars. Electricity comes from magic, right

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2016-12-05 Thread clay via Mercedes
Benz and Ballard Energy have sort of teamed up on the Hydro systems. Fuel cell tech is being advanced, but at the club event their rep was not really good about saying where the fuel was going to be coming from. clay > On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Meb

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2016-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I will beg to differ with you. It will rapidly oxidize in, say, a large balloon to which a length of jetex fuse has been attached, thence the whole affair released to float into the sky. Not that I have any direct experience in that regard... nor in the reactionary home production of H->2 usi

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
no If you read the posts, you'd already know that. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 10:26 PM Didn't the H2 inflated Hindenburg explode? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz

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2016-12-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Didn't the H2 inflated Hindenburg explode? On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:35 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, > > computers, etc. Granted, the Diesel engine an

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting - truck weight

2016-12-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Mitch wrote: Payload capacity is everything in a semi tractor. They're paying you to haul their freight, not your own vehicle weight. If you're carrying a ton of fuel and two tons of batteries, you're throwing away payload because total weight is limited by law. Yup. That the reason for a

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I knew there was an oxide in the thermite reaction, couldn't remember which bit... -Curt From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen Aluminum p

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Aluminum powder (not oxide) with iron oxide added for body, in nitrocelluose lacquer. Thermite with guncotton, so to speak. Very, very, very flammable, and should never have been used without grounding all the linen panels together (they were sewn on with cotton thread, I think). The De

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
< mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Wasn't the dope on the fabric aluminum oxide powder or some such? Somewhat > like a termite reaction? > -Curt > > From: fmiser via Mercedes > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: fmiser > Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wasn't the dope on the fabric aluminum oxide powder or some such? Somewhat like a termite reaction? -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen > Floyd wrote

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Methanol is dangerous for the same reason. Craig via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 7:15 PM On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:08:40 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes Yes, hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. That's why the folks at NASA who were working with it had to have infrared

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yep, you are right on! BTW, WWI planes had the same problem and same reaction to heat/flame fmiser via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 7:08 PM Floyd wrote: And Hindenberg The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not hydrogen. And hydrogen i

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It was indeed the fabric, and the nitrocellulose/aluminum powder/iron oxide dope (thermite with a fuse, so to speak). The Deutchland was immediately grounded and the entire covering removed and replaced before she flew again (on the South American route) for this very reason. Needless t

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:08:40 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Floyd wrote: > > > And Hindenberg > > The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not > hydrogen. Yes, hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. That's why the folks at NASA who were working with it had to have inf

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Floyd wrote: And Hindenberg The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not hydrogen. And hydrogen is _so_ light it is tricky to get it to stick around long enough to burn. My research suggests the dope on the fabric outside of the Hindenberg is the cause of the fire. Seems

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2016-12-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:35 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, > computers, etc. Granted, the Diesel engine and trans probably weigh a > ton, and the axles probably weigh a ton. > > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, computers, etc. Granted, the Diesel engine and trans probably weigh a ton, and the axles probably weigh a ton. Mitch Haley via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 5:11 PM Payload capacity is everything in

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2016-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Payload capacity is everything in a semi tractor. They're paying you to haul their freight, not your own vehicle weight. If you're carrying a ton of fuel and two tons of batteries, you're throwing away payload because total weight is limited by law. > On December 2, 2016 at 5:49 PM Curt Raymond

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2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It only takes a little electricity to make a little H2. 1000kg of H2 is a LOT... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is amply available all over the Earph.  It only takes a little electrojuicity to produce H.  Up to th

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2016-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
We have CNG vehicles because natural gas is too hard to liquify, but this thing will run on liquid hydrogen? Will it be continuously boiling off in a giant Dewar flask? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Mebbe they are gonna use an onboard generator to produce the go-gas. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic matter of the universe from water or something. I'm not sure of the

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
H is not "explosive" It does, however, burn rapidly. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 2:52 PM This is the non--explosive isotope of H2, distilled in Norway from ultra pure fjord waters. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

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2016-12-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is the non--explosive isotope of H2, distilled in Norway from ultra pure fjord waters. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic > matter of the universe from water or so

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2016-12-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic matter of the universe from water or something. I'm not sure of the whackonomics of that, and hauling H->2 around the country to truck stops, and putting in big Dewars everywhere the trucks might want to go. I wonder if th

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is amply available all over the Earph. It only takes a little electrojuicity to produce H. Up to this point, anyone who has done that small scale has had a visit from MIB in scheawz burbans who tell them stop or else. Jim was not intimidated. Unfortunately the MIB paid off. I have per

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2016-12-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yabbut where does all the hydrogen come from cheaply and dependably and in enough quantity to make it work? Frack on federal land, break the H2 molecules off the natural gas? Imported from China? George Soros has cut a side deal with Trump for importing H2 from Russia, as long as H-> stays out T

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2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Jim Ettaro would be proud. (RIP) They may have silenced him, but they can't silence the economic viability of h 2 pow wer. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 1:05 PM OT https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/electric-big-rig-startup-nikola-comes-up-with-a-s

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2016-12-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
OT https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/electric-big-rig-startup-nikola-comes-up-with-a-surpris-1789586024 -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to fo

[MBZ] This is interesting but too much money

2016-05-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
79 Mercedes 300D- needs trans rebuilt http://semo.craigslist.org/cto/5603480905.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives h

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2016-05-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes I should be. I need to sell some stuff though Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2016, at 5:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'd be all over that. > > On Friday, May 20, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> >> 1983 MERCEDES 240D

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2016-05-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Hafta let it go; can't handle manny tranny any more. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Jaime Kopchinski" Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is inter

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2016-05-21 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'd be all over that. On Friday, May 20, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > 1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL > http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5595519033.html > > via cPro for Craigslist > iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice > Android: http://tinyurl.co

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2016-05-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > 1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL looks like my 1984 with cloth door panels mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/

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2016-05-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Best possible 240D! Out of my price range, but looks like a keeper! (based on very limited info) Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes May 20, 2016 at 5:40 PMvia Postbox 1983 MERC

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2016-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5595519033.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2015-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work >I don't get how those flimsy looking tabs can be so strong. Grasshopper, Go check out "God is my Co-Pilot" from your govmnt welfare book

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2015-11-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I don't get how those flimsy looking tabs can be so strong. Grasshopper, Go check out "God is my Co-Pilot" from your govmnt welfare bookstore (library) and read the part about raising a plane from the bottom of the river. many hands make light work. ___

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2015-11-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Mitch Haley >> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work >> >> I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a s

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2015-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
ammer would break the connection. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second whi

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2015-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
break the connection. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second while holding the

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2015-11-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 03/11/2015 2:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second while holding the tab you're spot welding and letting your hand touch the panel you're welding it to. Not to mention I can't imagine welding without gloves. Normally that would s

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2015-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second while holding the tab you're spot welding and letting your hand touch the panel you're welding it to. Not to mention I can't imagine welding without gloves. Normally that would seem like a good way to make your hand tingle for a whil

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2015-11-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 10:37:41 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 The company's web page has more information: http://www.carolinacollisionequipment.com/miracle-system-dent-puller including a brochure on it:

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2015-11-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I wonder if it only works with the mild/soft steel of Toymotors, and not the "high strength" steel of 126 and later MBs - - - I'm sure it would work with our VW - the steel doors are more like aluminum - dent very easily. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@ok

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2015-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Ah yes, that Gauls... Gallia est omnis divisa in tres partes... --R On 11/3/15 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Spelling is almost correct. It's Gaulois. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And you have to have a Galois (

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2015-11-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Spelling is almost correct. It's Gaulois. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And you have to have a Galois (sp?) hanging out the corner of your mouth > > --R > > > On 11/3/15 10:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >> It only works if you d

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2015-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
And you have to have a Galois (sp?) hanging out the corner of your mouth --R On 11/3/15 10:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: It only works if you drink wine for lunch.. ;) Successful dent repair is creating the accident in reverse. In the most simple terms. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM, And

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2015-11-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It only works if you drink wine for lunch.. ;) Successful dent repair is creating the accident in reverse. In the most simple terms. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Mind boggling. Makes me want to get dented. I wonder if it only

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2015-11-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mind boggling. Makes me want to get dented. I wonder if it only works in France. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 > > --R > > ___

[MBZ] This is interesting body work

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/li

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2015-06-22 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
The confusion is understandable. He probably couldn't find a star at the PNP and stuck a BMW button on the hood. It's probably a fine Mercedes with ice cold air. Gerry > There is nothing wrong with a BMW identifying as a Benz. It has > probably had those feelings since it was built, but had to

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2015-06-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 350 is very reliable for the most part, it is not bullet proof like the 617 though. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>> There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching >>> for m

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2015-06-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. 324d or 524td. It wa

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2015-06-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The MB stealership in Milwaukee had a BMW wagon with one of these engines in it, and they wanted to make me a DEAL. I talked to Randy about it and he told me to run away as if my hair was on fire. Asshats also wanted to sell me a W124 260E, too. What a POS that car was. Dan > On Jun 22, 20

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2015-06-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. 324d or 524td. It w

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2015-06-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. Dan > On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Randy Bennell vi

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2015-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
It might be diesel but not likely an MB motor. RB On 22/06/2015 12:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I'll bet it really is legit. When I bought my '87 wagon up in New Jersey, at my first fuel stop there was a 80's BMW getting diesel, I think it had a six cylinder motor. They also had a

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2015-06-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'll bet it really is legit. When I bought my '87 wagon up in New Jersey, at my first fuel stop there was a 80's BMW getting diesel, I think it had a six cylinder motor. They also had a reputation for weak heads. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Rich Thomas via

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2015-06-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
There is nothing wrong with a BMW identifying as a Benz. It has probably had those feelings since it was built, but had to wait 32 years to finally develop the courage to undergo transautomobilation. Transautomobilism is no crime! --R On 6/22/15 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote

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2015-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats why I posted it. I emailed him to ask what it actually is... -Curt From: Randy Bennell To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is... Interesting... Did you look to see if he is also selling a BMW with photos

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2015-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Did you look to see if he is also selling a BMW with photos of a Mercedes? Maybe he mixed up the photos? Or, does that thing have an MB diesel transplanted into it? RB On 22/06/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5067293164.html *snort* -Curt

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2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sure am glad it has no rust. ;) On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5067293164.html > > *snort* > -Curt > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives

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2015-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5067293164.html *snort* -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz

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2014-03-29 Thread Craig
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:58:22 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > http://www.chonday.com/Videos/cruishalcut2 Indeed! They had the 99 foot section to be inserted pre-fabbed and just slipped it in. That speaks to both the original ship's assembly being accurately to plan and the new section being li

[MBZ] this is interesting

2014-03-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.chonday.com/Videos/cruishalcut2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the

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2013-12-30 Thread Gary Hurst
013 12:43:19 -0500 > From: Mitch Haley > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz > Message-ID: <52c1b0b7.80...@voyager.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > On

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Rick Knoble
> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:20:02 -0800 > From: apchamberl...@gmail.com > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> IMHO, a business doesn't really start a downhill slide until the >> accountants take over. >> >> >> > A brilliant, and accurate observation. > > Rather an incoherent comment, Loren, considering that you just said t

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
IMHO, a business doesn't really start a downhill slide until the accountants take over. Rick Sent from my iPhone A brilliant, and accurate observation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:13 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Until they screwed it up Saturn was a brilliant move, weird little cars that >> people loved in a no-pressure buying atmosphere. Saturn people loved Saturn, >> then they just made it like everything else at GM, same way th

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
Geo allowed people who would never buy an asian car to get an asian car without having to have a Toyota or Suzuki. My dad had a Chevy Tracker which was a re-badged Geo Tracker which was a re-badged Suzuki Grand Vitara. It was an EXCELLENT little truck, very good offroad and easy on gas. The Je

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Curt Raymond
like everything else at GM, same way they screwed up Saab. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:51:35 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:43:19 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz Message-ID: <52c1b0b7.80...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, &quo

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: i loved saturn and were quite sad to see them fail You just didn't like the early Ecotec engines and their lack of oil pressure at low rpm? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscr

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Gary Hurst
i loved saturn and were quite sad to see them fail On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM, wrote: > The Saturn SL series was entirely US made as far as I know. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 30, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Alex Chamberlain > wrote: > > > On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gm

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
> What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said "Buy American" and then went to their Chevy dealer to buy a Geo (all of which were captive imports). > Alex my thought has nothing to do with origin. I just never saw any

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said "Buy American" and then went to their

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread dseretakis
The Saturn SL series was entirely US made as far as I know. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I never could see any need for a >> geo or a saturn. > > What are you talking about?

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I would think so. Balancing is just making sure the moving parts are equal in weight. I can't see that being at all difficult in this environment. Dan who once balanced and blueprinted a 1600cc Beetle engine. On Dec 29, 2013, at 7:46 PM, OK Don wrote: > I wonder if the manufacturing process

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I never could see any need for a > geo or a saturn. What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said "Buy American" and then went to their Chevy dealer to buy a

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: It looked like there might have been a small LCD terminal at the one end of the engine assembly stand along with the laser scanner that was next to it. 45 seconds into the video, he's standing at a computer terminal with a handful of papers. Then he walks away

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread dseretakis
Yes the RTV robot was most impressive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:38:36 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" >> wrote: >>> http://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-mercedes-amg-hand-builds-every-single-engin-1487869406 >> Indeed! >>

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread rmassmann
: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting I was impressed by the apparent lack of fitting or selecting parts. Everything just seemed to fit. Maybe the precision and repeatability is actually that good (my engine rebuilding days were in the 69s and 70s). I was also "impressed" by the lack of any

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
I doubt a MB of the 00s until now needs to be balanced. Probably from the 90s on. I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days wer

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Fmiser
> >Dieselhead wrote: > > > > Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm > > and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better > > machines make this possible. It is the main reason why > > american engines routinely go 300k miles , not 40k to 120k as > > in the 60s. >

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days were dynamically balanced at the factory. I didn't see any evidence of that in the video,

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