Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-18 Thread Craig
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 05:27:55 -0400 John Reames wrote: > I don't have a pic of the alternator (that I can find), but the nut was > still on the shaft, and it looked to be holding a sleeve... > > But here's a pic of the pulley (after it played "stone") > >

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-18 Thread Randy Bennell
Remember the days when things did not change very often? There were many years back in the 50's and 60' s where parts were reasonably standard for a long while. The basic small block chevy engine did not change much for a good many years until they got into smog control and then fuel injection.

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-18 Thread John Reames
I don't have a pic of the alternator (that I can find), but the nut was still on the shaft, and it looked to be holding a sleeve... But here's a pic of the pulley (after it played "stone") -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread John Reames
It's more like a ratcheting sort of clutch, but it sure as heck wasn't a solid pulley. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 16, 2012, at 22:15, Craig wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:12 -0400 John Reames > wrote: > >> The alternator has a clu

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:01 PM, "Max Dillon" wrote: > Time for new tires now, bewildering array of choices. You need a 123 then. That would limit you to like, two choices of tire. Or buy a Ford Ranger with 14's. That would limit you to "I don't show a tire in that size". Rick Who is being a bi

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread Max Dillon
Still cooling very well after a few weeks and two thousand miles, thanks. Time for new tires now, bewildering array of choices. WILTON wrote: >How's the evaporator doing? > >Wilton > > -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread WILTON
How's the evaporator doing? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Eating belts I installed a new Dayco belt, $27 from P

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Don't keep your remaining eye too close. --R On 6/17/12 5:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote: I installed a new Dayco belt, $27 from Pep Boys. I could see nothing wrong with any pulley, no burr, all in alignment. New alternator turns smoothly with no play. I suspect it was coming apart because it was

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread Craig
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:02:06 -0400 Max Dillon wrote: > I'll keep a close eye in case new belt starts to get eaten up. Now that's a good idea! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread Max Dillon
I installed a new Dayco belt, $27 from Pep Boys. I could see nothing wrong with any pulley, no burr, all in alignment. New alternator turns smoothly with no play. I suspect it was coming apart because it was old and the new alternator and recharged AC put too much strain on it, and summer hea

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-17 Thread OK Don
ven't seen 'em all, but I've never seen an automobile > alternator pulley with a clutch, either. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Craig" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Eating belts > >

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread WILTON
I certainly haven't seen 'em all, but I've never seen an automobile alternator pulley with a clutch, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Eating belts On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:12

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Craig
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:12 -0400 John Reames wrote: > The alternator has a clutch in the pulley. I'd think that if it were > the alternator pulley going bad it would quickly come apart... > > I've had one come apart; the pulley was the stone, the belt the sling, > and the radiator played the p

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread John Reames
The alternator has a clutch in the pulley. I'd think that if it were the alternator pulley going bad it would quickly come apart... I've had one come apart; the pulley was the stone, the belt the sling, and the radiator played the part of Goliath. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Craig
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:44:42 -0400 Max Dillon wrote: > I have a spare old belt from my wagon, which is 5 mm longer according > to EPC. Good idea to try this belt, or bad? There are different length belts for the same cars equiped with different diameter pullies (I just came across that in readi

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Rich Thomas
You will be a belt looser --R On 6/16/12 11:44 AM, Max Dillon wrote: I have a spare old belt from my wagon, which is 5 mm longer according to EPC. Good idea to try this belt, or bad? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Brian Toscano
or its the wrong alternator and the offset is incorrect. On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > WILTON wrote: > >> Does the alternator rotate freely and smoothly (without wobble) by hand? >> Do the other pulleys (idler, water pump, pwr. steering pump, A/C comp.) >> rotate prope

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Does the alternator rotate freely and smoothly (without wobble) by hand? Do the other pulleys (idler, water pump, pwr. steering pump, A/C comp.) rotate properly without binding. When you sight down the edge of belt across all the pulleys, are all the pulleys in same plane - pro

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks to all who replied (even Fred!), I'll report back after applying my powers of observation, your inputs, and Fred's logic. I have a spare old belt from my wagon, which is 5 mm longer according to EPC. Good idea to try this belt, or bad? Max Dillon wrote: >My '95 E300 with OM606 engine

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread OK Don
I had a serpentine belt eaten after installing a new alternator once - found a little nick on the inside edge of the alternator pulley. Ground it smooth with a Dremel tool - problem solved. On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > My '95 E300 with OM606 engine has decided to eat the s

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Frederick Moir
Logic?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Max Dillon >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM >Subject: [MBZ] Eating belts > >My '95 E300 with OM606 engine has decided to eat the serpenti

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Dave Walton
When the alternator in my 300SDL went bad it would spin freely by hand but would occasionally lock up and cause the belt to jump off. I knew because the 2nd time it sheared the key. It is possible a rebuild could do the same. Always carry spare belts, tools, and a can of red bull. -Dave Walton

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2012-06-16 Thread Peter Frederick
I know it' possible to put the water pump pulley on backwards, and if you do it will strip off a couple ribs on the belt. Might be true of the alternator pulley as well. It will be obvious if this is the case, one side of the belt will leave a gap on the offending pulley opposite the gap o

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread WILTON
with each other? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Eating belts My '95 E300 with OM606 engine has decided to eat the serpentine belt. The only recent c

Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
My guess is that the old alt wasn't putting much of a load on the system, and the old belt was on it's last legs. New alternator allows full charge current and puts more stress on belt, belt snaps. Long story short, replace belt and then see if it happens again. Worst case, keep a spare belt in

[MBZ] Eating belts

2012-06-16 Thread Max Dillon
My '95 E300 with OM606 engine has decided to eat the serpentine belt. The only recent change is the new (rebuilt) alternator. How do I determine if the alternator is the culprit? -Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___