Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The 4 is a185hp though which is staggering for the displacement. It's a 2.2, makes the same HP as a 1985 2.3-16 (euro) or a 1992 Olds Achieva SCX (2.3L Quad 4). I thought a 944 had staggering output in the 1990s, but IIRC it was a pretty big 4 cylinder.

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote: ‎ Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport. We will probably buy another Mazda 6, as she

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
. :) -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles She will ask specifically.  I'll have to let her drive it, and if the performance is equal or better, she

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
their engines MUCH faster. Explain that she's been brainwashed to want a v6... Or just don't buy a Mazda 6. :) -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was not trying to suggest our car was indicative of all Mazdas, just that this has been our experience based on where the car has been located. I've never looked at information on any of the Mazda forums regarding rust. I'll check it out. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:11

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles Her parents brainwashed her years ago that a six is a minimum for safety purposes, e.g., trying to pull out into traffic in a hurry.  There's no use in trying to explain otherwise, although if their four cylinder mill will make the car stand up on its

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just as a data point, our 2005 Mazda 6 spent almost three years in the Midwest, and was exposed to the typical snow, sand and road salt. Other than some superficial surface rust on the undercarriage, there is no evidence of rust on any of the body panels that I've seen. Dan Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I'm not knowledgable on the Mazda makes, models, years but it has been my observation that Mazda 3 and 6 models made in the 2000s are quite rust prone. Perhaps less than three years salt exposure not enough? Perhaps your model year was not affected? This is just a general observation on my

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
185HP ought to satisfy anybody. Our 450 SL (V8) had around 160 HP. My 200D has around 60HP, maybe, and it is surprisingly drivable. It will make it to freeway speed by the end of our (old, short) onramp. Not so the poor, pathetic 240D automatic we once had, which took a mile or so more to

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I think the 1.8 turbo VW Audi engine is phenomenal. I drove a friends old Audi A4 and it was really, really fast. No need for a six cylinder nowadays. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, if the AC dogged it down that would be a major problem. The AC is pretty much permanently on in her car...today would be one of the few exceptions. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles Her parents brainwashed her years ago that a six is a minimum for safety purposes, e.g., trying to pull out into traffic in a hurry. There's no use in trying to explain otherwise, although if their four cylinder mill will make the car stand up on its hind legs

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 08/01/2015 7:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: She will ask specifically. I'll have to let her drive it, and if the performance is equal or better, she would probably go for it. She thrashes cars, so I might have some concerns about its longevity under such conditions. That being

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I agree if you want to source cruise control amplifiers nearby wherever you go then driving 30 year old iron seems oddly optimistic. Go buy a late model Camry, Accord or maybe a Hyundai. On Jan 5, 2015 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing wrong with used

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
G: What they said; which is why I bought a Prius. An owner on a Prius list has a 2001 model. He has no problem getting parts. However, I'm keeping my two 123's since the prices keep going up. Karl Wittnebel wrote: I agree if you want to source cruise control amplifiers nearby wherever you

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎  Original Message   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport. We will probably buy another Mazda 6, as she likes the car and the current

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles Wifey's car is a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport. We will probably buy another Mazda 6, as she likes the car and the current one

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Camry. I actually lost one in a parking lot. Couldn't be bothered to remember what it looked like. -Curt From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I concur. I rented one of those things at BNA once, got to the end of the garage and the RF CV joint started clacking and screeching, the thing had 1400 miles on it. I turned around and took it back, told the kid the RF drive wheel was likely to fail any time, probably would not be a good

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles I would love for her to have a four cylinder model, but there's no way she would go for it. She's  absolute about having a six

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
. Couldn't be bothered to remember what it looked like. -Curt From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles I agree if you want to source cruise

[MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
The bottom line on running older vehicles, whether MB or not, is that you cannot count on parts after about 10 years. Sometimes it is difficult to get parts for new vehicles too as there is little need and thus little production and no stock on hand. If you want to be certain you can get parts,

Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nothing wrong with used Mercedes parts - just buy two at a time. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The bottom line on running older vehicles, whether MB or not, is that you cannot count on parts after about 10 years. Sometimes it is