Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Siegbert Marschall
Is it April 2008 already, or what is happening on this mailing list ? I am about two weeks behind reading but out of curiosity I read a few emails in this thread and well, almost can't believe it. I better stop reading this list for a while and come back after doing something usefull, like instal

Re: : rouge IPs / user

2007-12-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
knitti wrote: you tell me that there is some correlation between HTTP keep alives and a socket ending up in CLOSE_WAIT for some time. That is the practical observation. But I'm interested in whether this is by design or not. RFC 2616 doesn't mention implementation details, and I can't see why the

Re: Default Route Issues

2007-12-11 Thread Bret
Thank You all for the pointers I now have it up and running and only have a small persistent route problem. Bret Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2007/12/11 08:40, Bret wrote: > > >>OK here is the update: >> >> > > > >>ral0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >>ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On 12/11/07, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Guenther wrote: > > On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I > >> have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local (apmd_flags=""), and wh

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Chris Zakelj
Nick Guenther wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local (apmd_flags=""), and when I issue 'shutdown -h -p now', the system powers off correctly.

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Chris Zakelj
Nick Guenther wrote: On 12/11/07, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local (

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Dec 11, 2007 3:48 PM, Siegbert Marschall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it April 2008 already, or what is happening on this mailing list ? No, but it is about the time for the monthly "what is happening to misc" comments ;) -B

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:11:25PM -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > Jacob Meuser wrote: > >his absolutism also causes people to see BSD as a "problem", a > >"social failure". > > > In everything, there is light and dark, interwoven :-) > >recently we saw theft of BSD to GPL, and a large part of the

Re: About non-free software in OpenBSD

2007-12-11 Thread David H. Lynch Jr.
Lars NoodC)n wrote: > >> Argh, the GPL is so ridiculously complex; nobody understands it. >> > > Many do, though. For me it's rather straight forward, as is the BSD > license. There are many ways to look at the positive goals of the GPL, > but they're not relevant here, since OpenBSD is a

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread ropers
I'd like to add two things I forgot earlier on, for Richards consideration: On 12/12/2007, ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is IMHO very similar to the way the OpenBSD ports system is > related to unfree software: > - The unfree software is not hosted by OpenBSD. The ports tree > effective

Re: Can I specify the bios time offset utc?

2007-12-11 Thread Dongsheng Song
Yesterday, after a long time, it give me a empty page. Today, It's OK. 2007/12/12, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 11, 2007 11:26 AM, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 AM, Dongsheng Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > 2007/12/11, Darren Spruell

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Travers Buda
* ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-12 01:17:32]: *snip* > > In addition, it is *considerably harder* to install unfree software on > OpenBSD than on gNewSense. This eg. is what installing Skype entails: > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352 > On gNewSense, it is *much* easier to

Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-11 Thread Joe
Wow. I didn't know this changed. So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated package or updated port available? I'm in no position to ask someone to do this, so I won't. But this really bites. On Dec 11, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Antoine

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Jacob Meuser wrote: the README.libcdio file in the libcdio sources mentions this file and says it can't be included because it's not GPL. I contacted the libcdio maintainer about this file, and he again said he could not include it because the BSD license is incompatible. Yes, our community o

Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-11 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Joe wrote: Wow. I didn't know this changed. This was announced on ports@ IIRC. So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated package or updated port available? That is correct. -- Antoine

4.2 i386 install fails on a HP Compaq dc7700

2007-12-11 Thread Ioan Nemes
Greetings, Try to install OpenBSD 4.2 i386 on a new HP Compaq dc7700 Small Form Factor, but when it comes to install the software sets from the CD, the install fails: ... ... ... Password for root account? (will not echo) Password for root account? (again) Let's install the sets! Loc

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