On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms when they
text?
yes. A couple of years ago when I started to warm up my French
again, the
teacher spent some time going through various types of French
yoofspeak,
including text language. She asked us to come up with some
On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Bob W wrote:
7 = sept
je deteste cet exercice. I hate this exercise.
Ah, thanks. My French consists of just enough Spanish to order lunch in a
Taqueria.
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From: Ralf R. Radermacher
Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
By what measure do you assert that the K10/K20/K7 sensors are
_mediocre_?
The Sony sensor of the K10D was alright and in line with what everybody
else was using at the time.
The K20D's Samsung sensor was indeed mediocre
On 08/10/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms when they
text?
yes. A couple of years ago when I
Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
By what measure do you assert that the K10/K20/K7 sensors are
_mediocre_?
The Sony sensor of the K10D was alright and in line with what everybody
else was using at the time.
The K20D's Samsung sensor was indeed mediocre when it was introduced and
On Oct 9, 2011, at 2:36 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 08/10/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms
On Oct 9, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 2:36 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 08/10/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
On a
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 04:44:41PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 2:36 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 08/10/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
...@gmail.com]
Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 06:51
Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Emne: Re: Hoya and Pentax
The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
On 10/6/2011 6:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
(I still can't believe they called it the Pentax Ricoh Imaging
Company. Didn't one single
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms when they
text?
yes. A couple of years ago when I started to warm up my French
On Oct 7, 2011, at 0:41, SV Hovland wrote:
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
You mean OACAA...
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On 2011-10-07 9:30, Charles Robinson wrote:
On Oct 7, 2011, at 0:41, SV Hovland wrote:
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
You mean OACAA...
You could join the A: Allied Association Against the Abuse of Acronyms.
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The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
The Japanese wouldn't pronounce that way in English anyway. They
substitute 'R' and 'L' for each other. According to Wikipedia it's
because both sounds use the same consonant in Japanese.
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I had a friend with a last name of Radcliff.
He went to work in Japan for a year or 18 months.
They absolutely murdered his last name.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
The Japanese don't really care what sounds like
Bob Sullivan wrote on Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:53:01 -0700
I had a friend with a last name of Radcliff.
He went to work in Japan for a year or 18 months.
They absolutely murdered his last name.
Regards, Bob S.
Ladcriff?
*
Jim King
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Let me rephrase that. The Japanese don't care what that sounds like in
Engrish.
On 10/7/2011 1:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
The Japanese wouldn't pronounce that way in English anyway. They
substitute 'R' and 'L'
I had a friend with a last name of Radcliff.
He went to work in Japan for a year or 18 months.
They absolutely murdered his last name.
Regards, Bob S.
Coulda been worse. At least he wasn't called Larry Raleigh-O'Reilly.
B
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM, John Sessoms
On 06/10/2011 11:41 PM, SV Hovland wrote:
As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)
The American company that I work for actually has an acronym manual that
is recommended reading to allow us to communicate with each other.
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On 2011-10-07 20:23, William Robb wrote:
The American company that I work for actually has an acronym manual that
is recommended reading to allow us to communicate with each other.
I work for IBM. Once upon a time, they had entire racks of such
manuals. They converted them to electronic
Jim,
Ladcriff? Yes very close.
I only knew they were talking about him because they would say
Tom Ladcriff for Tom Radcliff, and the Tom wasn't too badly pronounced.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:
Bob Sullivan wrote on Fri, 07 Oct 2011
It's interesting to see what Hoya has done for Pentax:
They've taken them from mediocre sensors (K10/K20/K7) to good ones (K-x,
K-r, K-5)
They finally brought out the 645D. It seems to be such a good camera
that everyone who has one spends all of their time taking pictures
rather than
[I really should resist the urge, but alas I cannot ...]
On 11-10-06 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
It's interesting to see what Hoya has done for Pentax:
They've taken them from mediocre sensors (K10/K20/K7) to good ones
(K-x, K-r, K-5)
By what measure do you assert that the K10/K20/K7
On 10/6/2011 3:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
[I really should resist the urge, but alas I cannot ...]
On 11-10-06 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
It's interesting to see what Hoya has done for Pentax:
They've taken them from mediocre sensors (K10/K20/K7) to good ones
(K-x, K-r, K-5)
By what
The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
On 10/6/2011 6:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
[I really should resist the urge, but alas I cannot ...]
On 11-10-06 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
It's interesting to see what Hoya has done for Pentax:
They've taken them from mediocre
Maybe it's a hidden message.
LOL.
Marnie
In a message dated 10/6/2011 3:43:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
(I still can't believe they called it the Pentax Ricoh Imaging Company.
Didn't one single exec pronounce the acronym out loud?)
-bmw
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: Hoya and Pentax
The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
On 10/6/2011 6:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
(I still can't believe they called it the Pentax Ricoh Imaging
Company. Didn't one single exec pronounce the acronym out loud?)
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Put the badge on Geelys.
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On 06/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have it backwards. Takeover offers come when it IS working like a
well-oiled machine. Investors don't buy poorly performing companies.
These shares didn't go at a fire-sale price. Hoya paid a premium.
LOL, yes after Sparx whipped up
ROFLMAO. Why would the fact that SPARX was a shareholder make Hoya
want to buy? That only meant Hoya would have to pay more.
On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:16 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 06/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have it backwards. Takeover offers come when it IS
Rob,
I suppose your right, but I don't know. We're having interesting
discussions over here about private equity firms. Some are suggesting
we should tax their big earnings more heavily, to chill their
activities.
The question is what economic value do all these people looking for
and pushing
, enhancing the value of
the stock then cashing in, that's what they do and they do it well.
After they sell their Pentax stock to Hoya Sparx will have made more
net profit out of Pentax during the time that they have held Pentax
stock than Pentax have made net profit during the same period. It's
all
The practical consequence of all this for me (fan of Pentax cameras, so
that means the imaging division or whatever the hell they call it) is
that previously Pentax could muddle along, just surviving economially,
and still make stuff. The optimist in me says Hoya will make them pay
more attention
Not as much as they plan to sell their Hoya shares for.
graywolf
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Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 06/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have it
As far as I know, on paper at least the transaction is complete.
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Rob,
I suppose your right, but I don't know. We're having interesting
discussions over here about private equity firms. Some are suggesting
we should tax their big earnings more heavily, to chill their
All the approvals are in. The actual transfer hasn't yet happened. I believe
it's scheduled for next month. Chrysler is planning events and celebrations at
its dealerships. They're billing it as a return to American ownership. The
Chrysler employees in my neighorhood are very pleased with what
Could be. But Konika was notin good stat when they bought Minolta AFAIR.
2007/7/6, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The practical consequence of all this for me (fan of Pentax cameras, so
that means the imaging division or whatever the hell they call it) is
that previously Pentax could
From:
J
Please tell me when FORD bought CHRYSLER..Did I miss this. Yes Ford
does own Jaguar..Joe
At 07:40 PM 7/5/07, you wrote:
Regardless of Rob and Tom's comments, this happens all the time.
Jaguar and Chrysler are owned by Ford and BMW.
You can call them 'essentially brand names' of the
Chrysler has been purchased by Cerebus. By all accounts, it appears
to be a good thing. Time will tell.
Paul
On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From:
J
Please tell me when FORD bought CHRYSLER..Did I miss this. Yes Ford
does own Jaguar..Joe
At 07:40 PM 7/5/07, you wrote:
2007/7/5, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic information,
Not sure if I wanna go there.
Could be getting hairy...
Jostein
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http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2007/200763.pdf
In addition, aggressive efforts will be made to maintain and
advance the PENTAX brand. (page 3)
It just mean they decided to write in the doc of course. We'll see.
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On 05/07/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/7/5, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic information,
Not sure if I wanna go there.
Could be getting hairy...
On 7/5/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 05/07/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/7/5, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 05/07/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/7/5, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic information,
Not sure if I wanna go
.
Whether it is good for Pentax owners and enthusiasts remains to be seen.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:13:58 -0400
BTW, till a couple year s ago, Pentax was nothing else than a brand of
Asahi Optical Company.
Ok I know, it was easy but still might put some things into perspective.
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If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic information,
Not sure if I wanna go there.
Could be getting hairy...
LOL, made a balls up of that.
What? Are you two nuts???
They don't know dick.
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Cheers,
Ah that's why they're going broke. They're buying cars instead of selling
them. :-)
Tom C.
From: J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:52:05 -0400
Yeah you're right. We know it does. That's why we predicted it would happen
to Pentax!
Tom C.
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:13:58 -0400
That's only your cynical interpretation of nonsense posts. I'll wait
and see what the real story might be.
Paul
On Jul 4, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Digital Image Studio
On 06/07/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 06/07/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only sure thing is,
the Bean Counters will decide who gets the capital for new projects.
Regards, Bob S.
Absolutely, had it all been working like a well oiled machine before
and enthusiasts remains to be seen.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:13:58 -0400
That's only your
On 06/07/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only sure thing is,
the Bean Counters will decide who gets the capital for new projects.
Regards, Bob S.
Absolutely, had it all been working like a well oiled machine before
they attracted Sparks attention in we probably would be talking
and enthusiasts remains to be seen.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:13:58 -0400
That's only your
, is another matter.
Whether it is good for Pentax owners and enthusiasts remains to be seen.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:58:22 +1000
On 06/07/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 06/07/07
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Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:58:22 +1000
On 06/07/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 06/07/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
/Chris Cheesman/
Pentax camera plans
Hoya has hinted at plans to cut digital camera production costs as part
of restructuring needed after completion of its bid for Pentax - a
process which formally begins today, July 3rd.
In a statement spelling out
On 04/07/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wholly owned must mean something different over there. Here you need 100% of
the shares. Controlling interest which is what they seem to be talking about
is somewhat different.
It's a loose interpretation I guess, the latests Pentax press
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Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
/Chris Cheesman/
Pentax camera plans
Hoya has hinted at plans to cut digital camera production costs as part
of restructuring needed after completion of its bid for Pentax - a
process which formally begins today
which is what they seem to be talking about
is somewhat different.
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Roman wrote:
Hoya outlines Pentax camera plans
/Chris Cheesman/
Pentax
De listing a company with large numbers of shares outstanding borders on
theft. Doing that may not be legal in some places.
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 04/07/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wholly owned must mean something different over there. Here you need 100% of
the shares.
Indeed but I remember one of the last updates from Pentax stated that
Pentax and Hoya agreed Hoya wouldn't necessarily buy 100% but only
more than 50%.
Of course Hoya wants to be as much near 100% as possible.
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Having read this brief, I am just as much in the dark as to what Hoya
plans to do with Pentax as I was before I opened it.
There's no information of any use there...
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Having read this brief, I am just as much in the dark as to what Hoya
plans to do with Pentax as I was before I opened it.
There's no information of any use there...
There's a thread about it on the DP Review Pentax forum. On which I
posited that this press release
That's an even looser translation:-). You guys are a hoot.
Paul
On Jul 4, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 04/07/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wholly owned must mean something different over there. Here you
need 100% of the shares. Controlling interest which is what
On 05/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's an even looser translation:-). You guys are a hoot.
Pentax is no longer, and what 100% ownership actually means is that
all existing Pentax shares which have not been bought by Hoya will be
converted to Hoya shares. Hoot or not.
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That's only your cynical interpretation of nonsense posts. I'll wait
and see what the real story might be.
Paul
On Jul 4, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 05/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's an even looser translation:-). You guys are a hoot.
Pentax is
On 05/07/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's only your cynical interpretation of nonsense posts. I'll wait
and see what the real story might be.
If you want to see the real story maybe you should start with Hoyas
notice of commencement of the tender offer, it is pubic
They got an Out Of Office Auto Reply:
'So sorry but we are away from our desks until Monday, if you want to
reach us before then, please try the Asahi Sushi Bar on the corner of
Akishakibara Street.'
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On 4/13/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They got an Out Of Office Auto Reply:
'So sorry but we are away from our desks until Monday, if you want to
reach us before then, please try the Asahi Sushi Bar on the corner of
Akishakibara Street.'
That might also explain their slow lens reliese
http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUST32528620070412
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Tom,
You have to stop worrying about this. It seems to be affecting you
deeply, and I wouldn't want it to affect your health. Life will go
on, and we'll all keep taking pictures. With or without Pentax.
Although I strongly suspect, it will be with for quite a few years
to come.
Paul
On
Samsung should buy their camera division, together with Spotmatic trademark.
best,
mishka
On 4/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom,
You have to stop worrying about this. It seems to be affecting you
deeply, and I wouldn't want it to affect your health. Life will go
on, and
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