I must respectfully disagree with Patrick Mason as to the benefits which can
be derived from Beckers work. This is not meant as a point for point
dispute, so I have not reproduced Patrick's original message.
1. Becker has not produced any more statistical proof that his theories work
than any o
I have contacted Neil and expressed the concern that some of you have
expressed. He was very understanding, asking if more theoretical material
might be of more interest. I told him to go ahead.
His attitude was examplary. Most people get so caught up in their own
agenda that they are insensit
dear friends,
Beware of ex-marxists as they become the biggest capitalist apologists!
Tim Wohlforth is a prime example.
Is this not the same renegade that wrote a piece in the Social Democrat mag.
In These Tmes a few years back entitled "Give War A Chance' advocating US
occupation tropps t
***Please forward to other interested parties***
Conference on the Need for a New Economics of Science
Conference Announcement and Call for Papers
University of Notre Dame
March 13-16, 1997
Fin
In its last stage of monopoly capitalism, the whole motive of production
has become the making of the maximum capitalsit profit. The state is run
and the government policies formulated and carried out so as to ensure
the greatest profitability for the capitalsit class. The call of John
Majo
At 1:20 PM 7/11/96, GC-Etchison, Michael wrote:
>Of course, a libertarian would respond that the Left amounts to "I've
>got yours, so fuck you," and all the talk about oppression and
>entitlement is diversion and rationalization.
If this read, "We want yours, and fuck you," it would make
Dear friends,
Adolfo. o. has gotten himself into quite a maoist muddle with
all that aclass drivel hiding the the class essence of "nations"
and then he disingenuously tries to give us the old class
collaborationist schemes for "united fronts of the People'
(read : united fronts for bourgeois
Let me apologize for sending such a long post, but I wanted to respond to
Doug Orr's comments in detail. A short time after composing this wordy posting
I noticed that Jim Devine also forwarded a post in response to my previous
response. I have not responded to Jim here but will do so in a shorter
In my earlier post I did not say anything about Becker's theories about
crime because I had a meeting I was late for. But Jim Divine does bring
it up:
Devine:
Pat Mason's defense of the idea of studying Gary Becker is
well-taken (especially since it was not a defense of Becker
himself).
If
for some reason, this didn't show up in the pen-l archive. Sorry
if it's redundant.
1. For a well-written short book from a libertarian perspective,
see Milton Friedman's CAPITALISM AND FREEDOM (or the one with his
wife Rose, FREE TO CHOOSE).
The former is the source of his strategy of cutti
again, somehow this didn't show up in the pen-l archive. Again
sorry if it's redundant.
that's all for the week. See you on Monday.
Jim Craven wrote that for libertarians
>>The only test of theory is prediction; if the theory is sound
this will be reflected in the accuracy of prediction; ind
I apologize for all my missives; normally I'm not this active. I just
thought I would share a portion of the textbook I am writing entitled
"Gonzonomics: Some 'Mainstream' Economics Through Irreverent
Metaphor, Allegory and Schadenfreude"
The characters in my allegory include Biff (a yuppie st
Pat Mason's defense of the idea of studying Gary Becker is
well-taken (especially since it was not a defense of Becker
himself).
If I were doing research on crime, for example, I would look up
what Becker had to say. (Just as I'd look up what all the other
thinkers on the subject, no matter
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Michelle Billies wrote:
> >I have been approached by a community group here in Syracuse, NY,
> >considering launching a campaign for a living wage requirement for
> >firms that do business with the city. I believe there such a legal
> >requirement in Baltimore and I am to
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Doug Henwood wrote:
> I frequently get asked by LBO subscribers what books I'd recommend they
> read as intros to basic economics that were also politically congenial.
> I've never come up with a satisfactory answer to the question. Any
> suggestions?
Doug,
You pr
Doug Henwood /11 reports
>I once read a crude and admittedly reductive definition of
libertarianism: "I've got mine, so fuck you." Despite all the pretense
of science, and the high-blown language about liberty, the doctrine
really does come down to that in the end.
Of course, a libe
Dear adam,
The labor bureacracy here is a big part of the bribed labour aristocracy.
In your SWP-UKs rush/profession to fetch up votes for the bourgeois
british Labor Party of her liberal majesty, one might tend to "forget'
small trifles such as this!.
If not falling into lock-step with the l
2 somewhat extended points:
1) Several years ago the _Journal of Economic
Literature_ published a paper on citation rates of
economists. Gary Becker was the most frequently
cited living economist, well ahead of such heavier
intellectual weights as Arrow and Samuelson, much
less his fam
To Maggie and others:
Start at
http://www.princeton.edu/~bdcaplan/index.html
(this is not a recommendation. You will get your
prejudices confirmed).
--
Trond Andresen
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> I once read a crude and admittedly reduc
Hi Hans:
Try contacting Anwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
peace, patrick l mason
I recently saw an article where the author, not a penner, critisized Milton
Friedman for being short, really. The Chicago boys have done untold damage
around the world. The get enormous support from right wing think tanks where
many lefties, a number of penners included, just scrape by.
Gil and
For the first time in all of my years on PEN-L I have to disagree, and disagree
strongly with a post by Pat Mason. In doing so, I will reproduce much of his
post.
Mason:
The recent discussion of Gary Becker and his work has been disappointing,
at a minimum. Originally, I wasn't going to comment
I once read a crude and admittedly reductive definition of libertarianism:
"I've got mine, so fuck you." Despite all the pretense of science, and the
high-blown language about liberty, the doctrine really does come down to
that in the end.
Doug
--
Doug Henwood
Left Business Observer
250 W 85 St
Michael E. writes:
> Hayek's argument was that the market was the most "efficient" way for
>information about each person's valuations to be distributed to those
>with the greatest desire to know (among them, those most likely to want
>to supply something to satisfy those valuations) --
Are the date from Shaikh and Tonak's book *Measuring the Wealth of
Nations* (Cambridge University Press 1994) available on the internet
somewhere?
Hans Ehrbar
How much lower can he get? First, under the guise of "welfare reform" Bubba
pulls out the rug from under whatever little support the minorities get in
this country, and then he has the chutzpa to go to the NAACP convention and
brag about his "accomplishments" to help the minorities. At least Do
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> Jim Craven wrote:
>
> >There
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> Subject:[PEN-L:5108] Deductivism (WAS one last . . .)
> Rahul Maha
On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Teresa Ghilarducci wrote:
>
>
> Dear TIAA - CREF participants:
>
> Please watch for a proxy shareholder resolution this September initiated by
> DEAN BAKER of the Economic Policy Institute 202-331-5525. He is asking the
> TIAA-CREF board to have limits placed on indiv
Hayek's argument was that the market was the most "efficient" way for
information about each person's valuations to be distributed to those
with the greatest desire to know (among them, those most likely to want
to supply something to satisfy those valuations) -- efficient in the
sense
Jim Craven wrote:
>There are of course different strains/sects etc (Noam Chomsky is
>often characterized as a "left-wing" libertarian or socialist
>libertarian--I find this to be oxymoronic--and there is what is
>known as the "Objectivist wing of the Libertarians; but here it goes:
One of the mo
Rahul Mahajan asks 7/11 why James Craven objects to libertarians' being
"deductivists":
>All of science is done by taking the basic underpinnings (axioms,
equations of motion, etc.), deducing consequences of them, then
empirically testing those consequences. This is the only way to do
Tavis Barr writes that>> It seems to me that what you're criticizing
is much mroe generally the value of modelling economies
mathematically than just the A-D GE model (unless by A-D you mean
specifically Walrasian equilibrium, which I agree is irrelevant
enough to be useless).<<
No, I'm not again
I strongly endorse the sense of Patrick's remarks about the recent PEN-L
discussion of Becker. I'd add just two comments: first, there have been
theoretical initiatives on the left in some of the areas Patrick mentions,
in particular radical feminist theories of the family (a recent example of
w
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> James Craven:
>
> >8) The only test o
At 9:24 PM 7/10/96, Rahul Mahajan wrote:
>Doug, isn't this rather a useless sense of "efficiency?" What does the
>shortness of the time lag between Clinton's latest speech urging that
>welfare mothers be put in the stocks and pelted with stones and the rise in
>the price of Microsoft stock have t
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Pen-lers:
The recent discussion of Gary Becker and his work has been disappointing,
at a minimum. Originally, I wasn't going to comment. But, the critiques of
Becker have been way off base. First of all, heterodox economists and others
interested in constructing a more egali
James Craven:
>8) The only test of theory is prediction; if the theory is sound
>this will be reflected in the accuracy of prediction; individual
>assumptions need not be supported empirically or inductively as if
>they are sound they will lead to deductively and predictively "valid"
>conclusions
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> I hate to display my extreme ignorance in this matter,
Privatization marches on.
I think questions about distribution and pricing are in order.
Doug
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BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, JULY 10, 1996
A chart showing changes in the minimum wage, actual and adjusted for
inflation, and attributed to BLS accompanies an article on Senate passage of
a minimum wage raise (New York Times, page A1).
Growth in the manufacturing sector moderated in the mont
>From another list
Doug
>The [London] Guardian July 11 1996
>
>ORWELL OFFERED WRITERS' BLACKLIST TO ANTI-SOVIET PROPAGANDA
>UNIT
>
>Richard Norton-Taylor and Seumas Milne
>
>GEORGE ORWELL, the socialist author, offered to provide a
>secret Foreign Office propaganda unit linked to the
At 5:30 PM 7/10/96, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>When capitalist economies go into crises, we have not only
>a problem of idle hands and unmet needs -- by any reasonable definition,
>a pretty inefficient situation. We also have a problem of unmet needs
>and surplus goods. Take the late 80s condo b
>From Jo'burg it was good to see Sid's post on this issue.
Just spent yesterday in our new Constitutional Court trying to help write
out corporate fundamental rights from the Bill of Rights; Ralph Nader has
been exceptionally helpful in putting this onto the agenda here, pointing
out the many way
First on Jim Craven's apologies: Don't bend over backwards, Jim. I
enjoyed your tirade immensely. Right on!
Secondly: It should be a consolation that libertarianism f.inst. in
Europe is a non-significant phenomenon (does it have any punch ANYWHERE
outside the U.S.?). Market liberalism, yes, but
Dear Neil.
Eould you please identify yourself more fully.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] means nothing.
Edwin Dickens
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