Thus spake Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> JA> Not quite. More like "someone inspects your free car and finds a button
> JA> that can make it explode. Maybe he pushes the button, maybe not. Maybe he
> JA> pushes the button on someone else's car". Are you willing to take that
> JA> risk? I can imagine
Boris writes:
> If you will find 100 bugs in sendmail they are fixed then after
> reporting them. The games is over, the problem is solved. The admin
> updates, and thats all.
Actually, the admin doesn't update. Or rather, some do, and some
don't.
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http:/
At 12:25 PM 6/2/01, Mark Delany wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:20:01PM +0200, Boris allegedly wrote:
> > Well, there is no button with a text like "press me here" -)
> for
> > the public.
>
>Of course there is, silly.
>
>Now, what do you think most script kiddies do? They don't scour the
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:20:01PM +0200, Boris allegedly wrote:
> Hello Johan,
>
>
> JA> Not quite. More like "someone inspects your free car and finds a button
> JA> that can make it explode. Maybe he pushes the button, maybe not. Maybe he
> JA> pushes the button on someone else's car". Are yo
Aaron L. Meehan([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.01 12:14:20 +:
> I've been looking for a sucker.. OK I'll bet a six pack is
> doesn't. (or, if Bud, I'd demand a case)
i put another six pack on top.
Reasons per priv. mail
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regards,
Patrick
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Boris wrote:
> There should be one file to download and the makefile should do nearly
> everything neccessary. I should not spend days to understand the
> different modules as a newbie, it takes too much time.
I would argue that you /should/ take the time. Qmail's power lies
Hello Johan,
JA> Not quite. More like "someone inspects your free car and finds a button
JA> that can make it explode. Maybe he pushes the button, maybe not. Maybe he
JA> pushes the button on someone else's car". Are you willing to take that
JA> risk? I can imagine two situations where that woul
* Boris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010602 16:28]:
> LM> If you bought (OK, got for free) a car, and it exploded, leaving you
> LM> burned, then you waited a week to get a new car mailed to you, then you
> The car is not exploding, someone comes and looks at your car. He is
> searching and searching and
Hello List,
Saturday, June 02, 2001, 7:24:56 AM, you wrote:
LM> If you bought (OK, got for free) a car, and it exploded, leaving you
LM> burned, then you waited a week to get a new car mailed to you, then you
The car is not exploding, someone comes and looks at your car. He is
searching and se
> Why no one makes a package with "all you need" to download and
> install, here is a suggestion:
>
> - qmail
> - the tcpserver
> - something good for pop before smtp
> - vpopmail
> - good tools for blocking spam, blocking mails from open relays, and
> so on
> - and other additions from other pe
Hello List,
Saturday, June 02, 2001, 7:24:56 AM, you wrote:
>> I like sendmail, its slow - yes, but it is powerful and this silly
>> bugs are fixed fast. Its just some C-Code, everyone knows this.
LM> Yeah, it is only a few hundred thousand lines of code, and you should have
LM> looked through
Boris([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.02 05:01:57 +:
> When I was using sendmail on my FreeBSD Server, it has never been
> hacked, very strange ugh?
no. with your domain name, it is very unlikely to be a crack target ;-)
if your domain is called cnn.com or the like, you would not run sendmail
for t
Hello Russell,
Saturday, June 02, 2001, 5:38:43 AM, you wrote:
RN> Boris writes:
RN> > I really can´t hear the "qmail is the most secure bla bla" anymore,
RN> > really.
RN> Why? It's true.
Yes it is true, and qmail is great, but it would be better to make a
better documentation for qmail, a
> I like sendmail, its slow - yes, but it is powerful and this silly
> bugs are fixed fast. Its just some C-Code, everyone knows this.
Yeah, it is only a few hundred thousand lines of code, and you should have
looked through it for bugs or exploits before you compiled it, right? It
is just some
Boris writes:
> I really can´t hear the "qmail is the most secure bla bla" anymore,
> really.
Why? It's true.
> At the moment I am evaluating qmail, and there
> are some things I am missing from sendmail.
Like what?
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-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:01:57AM +0200, Boris allegedly wrote:
> bugs are fixed fast. Its just some C-Code, everyone knows this.
This is a troll, right?
I have a lock on my front door that I know can be opened with a
paperclip, but heck, those nice people who make the locks will supply
me wit
Hello Dave,
DS> Anyone want to takes bets on whether qmail has unsafe signal handlers?
DS> -Dave
I really can´t hear the "qmail is the most secure bla bla" anymore,
really.
I like sendmail, its slow - yes, but it is powerful and this silly
bugs are fixed fast. Its just some C-Code, everyone kn
Quoting Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Anyone want to takes bets on whether qmail has unsafe signal handlers?
I've been looking for a sucker.. OK I'll bet a six pack is
doesn't. (or, if Bud, I'd demand a case)
Aaron
From: Gregory Neil Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sendmail 8.11.4 and 8.12.0.Beta10 available
Sendmail, Inc., and the Sendmail Consortium announce the availability
of sendmail 8.11.4 and 8.12.0.Beta10.
8.11.4 revamps signal handling within the MTA in o
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