[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Adela
I sent a new message with the attachment required. Thank you! On 6 Feb, 14:35, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 6, 4:06 am, Adela wrote: > > > Thank you to everyone! > > > You really help me with your answers! > > > > >I assume you're talking about the call > > > > B.ideal([x1*x2 + ..., x2 + ..., ...]

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Brickenstein
Hi! If I didn't made an error converting this input, PolyBoRi returns an answer immediately. Indeed [1]. And of course it is the GB for all orderings. Regarding "seeing, what is going" use "prot=True". Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send ema

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 4:06 am, Adela wrote: > Thank you to everyone! > > You really help me with your answers! > > > >I assume you're talking about the call > > > B.ideal([x1*x2 + ..., x2 + ..., ...]) ? > > Yes, about this call I'm talking about! I can see the sandals when > scrolling over there..I guess t

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Adela
Thank you to everyone! You really help me with your answers! > >I assume you're talking about the call > > B.ideal([x1*x2 + ..., x2 + ..., ...]) ? Yes, about this call I'm talking about! I can see the sandals when scrolling over there..I guess the feedback from SAge is that has finished

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
[CCing Michael B. and Alexander D. since they seem to be unaware of this discussion involving PolyBoRi] On Feb 6, 3:35 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: Hi, > > PolyBoRi is automatically used by Sage for GB computations? > > If you construct a BooleanPolynomialRing. See > > http://www.sagemath.org/hg

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Marshall Hampton
I believe there are memory (and time?) limitations for each user on sagenb, so a tough GB calculation would likely get stopped. Seems strange that just defining the ideal would take that long. -M. Hampton On Feb 6, 1:35 pm, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > PolyBoRi is automatically used by Sage for

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Albrecht
> PolyBoRi is automatically used by Sage for GB computations? If you construct a BooleanPolynomialRing. See http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/b0aa7ef45b3c/sage/rings/polynomial/pbori.pyx > On the other hand I calculated my new ideal and I wonder why it takes > so long for SAGE to evalua

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Adela
> Well, to be honest 4 GB isn't much these days and GBasis computations > tend to be rather large, especially if you use Lex. I often ran out of > memory on a 24 GB system three years ago doing rather large-ish GB > computations and none of those ideals were the size you posted. That > was over

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 6, 1:36 am, Adela wrote: > > It would also be interesting to know how much RAM your system has and > > if the computation you run over night ever hit swap since it is > > basically game over once you hit swap in a GB computation :) > > I have a brand new system with 4 GB RAM so I guess s

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Adela
> It would also be interesting to know how much RAM your system has and > if the computation you run over night ever hit swap since it is > basically game over once you hit swap in a GB computation :) > I have a brand new system with 4 GB RAM so I guess should be enough. On the other hand, I di

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-06 Thread Adela
> It would also be interesting to know how much RAM your system has and > if the computation you run over night ever hit swap since it is > basically game over once you hit swap in a GB computation :) > I have a brand new system with 4 GB RAM so I guess should be enough. On the other hand, I di

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-05 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 5, 6:07 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Adela wrote: > > As you said, the computations should not take so long because I work > > in the ring Z / 2 so I have as solutions only 1 and 0 (they represent > > bits). > > Well since you have 61 variables not so lon

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-05 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Adela wrote: > Thanks to everyone for your support! > > I already tried to do the big computation leaving the computer all > night long to work but I still don't know if it finished.. I still > don't understand Sage very well because I don't see any feedback from > it

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-05 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 5, 1:26 am, Simon King wrote: > On Feb 5, 10:20 am, Simon King wrote: > > > In some application, I had to compute a Gröbner basis for a system of > > about 3 non-homogenous polynomials of degree 3 with 42 variables > > and with rational coefficients. But Singular (which does the Grö

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-05 Thread Simon King
On Feb 5, 10:20 am, Simon King wrote: > In some application, I had to compute a Gröbner basis for a system of > about 3 non-homogenous polynomials of degree 3 with 42 variables > and with rational coefficients. But Singular (which does the Gröbner > basis computation in Sage) only needed a fe

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-05 Thread Simon King
Dear Adela, On Feb 4, 11:46 pm, Adela wrote: > I need to solve a big system of nonlinear equations(it consists of 114 > equations, with 61 indeterminates, all of them can be only 0 and 1 and > I work modulo 2). > > I solve it using Groebner bases. So, my problem coms to finding the > reduced Gro

[sage-support] Re: does Sage work for finfing Groebner basis for a very large system?

2009-02-04 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Adela wrote: > I need to solve a big system of nonlinear equations(it consists of 114 > equations, with 61 indeterminates, all of them can be only 0 and 1 and > I work modulo 2). > I solve it using Groebner bases. So, my problem coms to finding the > reduced Groebne