[scots-l] Another dumb question?

2002-02-06 Thread Steve Wyrick
On our local San Francisco Scottish Fiddlers mail list a question came up that is driving me crazy; I should be able to figure this out but can't. Someone asked whether a grace note is played on the beat, or ahead of the beat. I maintained that for dance or march music a strong beat is wanted and

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Steve Wyrick
Anselm Lingnau wrote: (Nigel, I think, wrote) >> As for dancers not knowing the difference between a reel and a jig: why >> on earth should they? I can't see that it's very relevant to how they >> dance. One plays 2 or 4 notes to the beat, the other 3, but the beat >> remains the same, doesn't it

Re: [scots-l] Name of pipe strathspey

2002-02-06 Thread Wendy Galovich
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 20:26, Toby Rider wrote: > Does anyone know the name of the pipe strathspey that Brendan plays > right after Dusky Meadow, but before the John Campbell reel in this set: > > > http://barra.tullochgorm.com/mp3s/scottish/MabouRidgeSet.mp3 > > I can't put a n

[scots-l] Name of pipe strathspey

2002-02-06 Thread Toby Rider
Does anyone know the name of the pipe strathspey that Brendan plays right after Dusky Meadow, but before the John Campbell reel in this set: http://barra.tullochgorm.com/mp3s/scottish/MabouRidgeSet.mp3 I can't put a name to this tune! Thanks! Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditiona

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Anselm Lingnau
Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think as you said we need Anselm or David South to come in with their > thoughts now. SCD strathspeys are at 116 »ticks« per minute or so if you let your metronome tick four times per bar. (I'm desperately trying to avoid the issue of »beats« to th

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread John P. McClure
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Nigel Gatherer wrote: > As for dancers not knowing the difference between a reel and a jig: why > on earth should they? I can't see that it's very relevant to how they > dance. One plays 2 or 4 notes to the beat, the other 3, but the beat > remains the same, doesn't it? Actua

Re: [scots-l] Re: New ballad enquiry

2002-02-06 Thread Ellen Sinatra
Hi David, Wow! This is also very helpful. Thank you so much. I already had your "Colours of Lichen" on my list, but your other suggestions are new to me. Your work is wonderful, by the way. Could you possibly send me a copy of the new lyrics? That would be just great. Best, Ellen David Fra

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread John Ward
Thought I'd put in my 2 cents. Strathspeys, as danced by RSCDS dancers, are done with two beats to the measure, thus 60 is about correct, although a little bit slow in my experience (I would usually figure about 62 for a strthspey.) Reels and jigs are danced, again, as two beats per measure,

[scots-l] Re: New ballad enquiry

2002-02-06 Thread David Francis
No one else has mentioned it so far, so I thought I'd better! Mairi Campbell and I made a song a few years back called 'The Piper and the Maker' (music by Mairi, words by me) which seems to go down well whenever we perform it. We recorded it on our album 'Colours of Lichen' under our nom de stag

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread John Chambers
Nigel Gatherer wrote: | David Francis wrote: | > ...Jimmy Shand was renowned for his ability to hit the right tempo | > and keep it ticking along...Beware the early Shand recordings though. | > They go at an unbelievable lick. One theory is that this was to | > accommodate the limited recording

RE: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Ian Brockbank
Hi Wendy, Nigel, > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:06, Nigel Gatherer wrote: > > > > STRATHSPEYS > > Jeffrey Friedman says they dance Strathspeys at 60. I'm not a dancer, > > but musically that seems VERY slow to me [3]. JMM states the limits as > > between 160 and 188. That upper limit seems fa

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Wendy Galovich wrote: > Nigel - Jeff was referring to Scottish Country Dance strathspeys, not > Cape Breton. For SCD aren't the strathspeys supposed to be counted > two to the bar, rather than four to the bar as in Cape Breton? That's what I'm guessing, Wendy. Jeffrey specifically said quarter n

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
David Francis wrote: > ...Jimmy Shand was renowned for his ability to hit the right tempo > and keep it ticking along...Beware the early Shand recordings though. > They go at an unbelievable lick. One theory is that this was to > accommodate the limited recording space available on the old shel

Re: [scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Wendy Galovich
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:06, Nigel Gatherer wrote: > > STRATHSPEYS > Jeffrey Friedman says they dance Strathspeys at 60. I'm not a dancer, > but musically that seems VERY slow to me [3]. JMM states the limits as > between 160 and 188. That upper limit seems fast to me, but nothing > compar

[scots-l] Tempi

2002-02-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
OK, time to get serious. Thanks to everyone who has commented on this subject. I'm now reading J Murdoch Henderson (JMM) [1] on the subject (which is just a little more than my brain can handle!), and I'm trying to get it down. All the below assumes a metronome beat equals a crotchet or quarter n