Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-30 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/30/2012 05:33 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/28/12 1:53 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/26/2012 01:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/23/12 1:28 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 03:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: But I certainly might want to receive the last published item

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 5/28/12 1:53 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/26/2012 01:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/23/12 1:28 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 03:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: But I certainly might want to receive the last published item whenever I log in. This too seems like a setting

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/26/2012 01:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/23/12 1:28 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 03:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: But I certainly might want to receive the last published item whenever I log in. This too seems like a setting that a dedicated microblogging service

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 5/23/12 1:28 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 03:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/22/12 12:40 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Well, the need to *change* it from the default to some reasonable value implies that the default value is unreasonable. That might depend on implementation and

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-23 Thread Tim
Is there something planned to replace the removed Attaching file to a post part ? There was no clear explanation for this change. Jaussoin Timothée 2012/5/22 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im On 5/22/12 12:40 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 12:55 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/23/2012 01:38 PM, Tim wrote: Is there something planned to replace the removed Attaching file to a post part ? There was no clear explanation for this change. There are two problems with the feature: 1) this feature is too early: we have no solutions for some very important problems to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/23/2012 03:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/22/12 12:40 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Well, the need to *change* it from the default to some reasonable value implies that the default value is unreasonable. That might depend on implementation and deployment (e.g., if someone runs an XMPP

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-23 Thread Tim
Considering that the 0277 implement the Atom standard, can we continue to follow the Atom Media system (http://specs.mart.me.uk/atommedia#anchor20) or it's better to wait for a more clean XEP for this issue ? 2012/5/23 Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org On 05/23/2012 01:38 PM, Tim wrote: Is

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/23/2012 02:31 PM, Tim wrote: Considering that the 0277 implement the Atom standard, can we continue to follow the Atom Media system (http://specs.mart.me.uk/atommedia#anchor20) or it's better to wait for a more clean XEP for this issue ? I don't see any non-standard extensions in the

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-22 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added node configuration suggestions; removed file attachments; added rich content examples; change atom:content to atom:title anywhere in

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 5/22/12 11:56 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.6 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added node configuration suggestions; removed file attachments; added rich content

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-22 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/23/2012 12:55 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/22/12 11:56 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.6 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added node configuration suggestions;

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 5/22/12 12:40 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 05/23/2012 12:55 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/22/12 11:56 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.6 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP.

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-15 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.5 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Changed the commenting Pubsub service from PEP to external. (vs) Diff: http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0277/diff/0.4/vs/0.5 URL:

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-15 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Generalize my suggestions for XEP-0277 as was asked by Neustradamus. 1. I agreed with Arc Riley that XEP-0277 should not contain 2.7. Attaching files to a post as overhead and the reason which is slowing down acceptance of the standard. 1.1 If attachments will be kept in the XEP it needs to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-03 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 06/03/2011 12:01 AM, Arc Riley wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: I agree but if file attachment already in XEP we have to specify how client could upload it. Am I wrong? The XEP is in experimental

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-03 Thread Sergey Dobrov
I think that we should add an ability to add categories (e.g. tags) to the posts (and/or comments). That is easy using entry:category Atom element: category term=xmpp/ -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-03 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Other remarks about new revision of the XEP-277: 1. Moving a text of post to a content item is fine but Atom's entry MUST contain at least one title element. I suggest to put to the title element plain text version of content truncated to 140 chars. (I already have it in my implementation) 2. Why

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Suddenly, your mail client don't reply in the thread. :( On 06/02/2011 05:55 AM, Valérian Saliou wrote: Hello, I will try to reply to your answers/suggestions ;) 1. In the microblogging XEP we wanted to define a simple way to share some files. But I never heard of the XEP-0135, will read

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: some files. But I never heard of the XEP-0135, will read it as soon as possible. Anyway, by looking at it quickly, it gives me some ideas about how we could manage photo albums/file albums to extend XMPP social

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 06/02/2011 10:39 PM, Arc Riley wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: some files. But I never heard of the XEP-0135, will read it as soon as possible. Anyway, by looking at it quickly, it gives me some ideas

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: I agree but if file attachment already in XEP we have to specify how client could upload it. Am I wrong? The XEP is in experimental status, something being in the current XEP does not mean it must remain there. I

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-01 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.4 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added microblog informations feature, ID innacurracy fixed, urn:xmpp:inbox support added, new commenting namespaces, first comment marker,

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-01 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 06/02/2011 12:36 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.4 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added microblog informations feature, ID innacurracy fixed, urn:xmpp:inbox

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-06-01 Thread Valérian Saliou
Hello, I will try to reply to your answers/suggestions ;) 1. In the microblogging XEP we wanted to define a simple way to share some files. But I never heard of the XEP-0135, will read it as soon as possible. Anyway, by looking at it quickly, it gives me some ideas about how we could manage

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-04-26 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.3 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Comments link link[rel=related] is now link[rel=replies] and title is now content[type=text] or content[type=xhtml]; added geolocation

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-04-26 Thread Justin Karneges
Hi, On Tuesday 26 April 2011 13:54:51 XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.3 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Regarding comment nodes: is it expected that every set of comments for a post or attachment has its own node? By that I mean you would not have two

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

2011-04-20 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2 of XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a method for microblogging over XMPP. Changelog: Added file attachment and commenting features; updated XML namespaces in examples. (vs) Diff: