[biofuel] Compression Ratio

2002-05-02 Thread MH
Table 1: Engine Types, Fuel Systems and Compression Ratios, by Fuel Engine Type, Fuel System, Compression Ratio Used GasolineSI mono up to 11 Diesel CI mono 18 (DI) 22 (IDI) LPG

RE: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
>Locks up my browser. Have to bring up Windows taskmaster and terminate >acrobat reader before I can close window or do anything else >Kirk Thanks. I've no idea what's wrong, we've tried from several different points, no problem. I've asked our hosts to investigate, I'll forward this to them. (

RE: [biofuel] octane

2002-05-02 Thread kirk
I found diesel (1 or 2 gallon in a 20 gallon tank) gives me 5 to 8% better mileage. Engine Chevy 350. You can smell it in the exhaust too. Kirk -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:43 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [b

RE: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread kirk
Locks up my browser. Have to bring up Windows taskmaster and terminate acrobat reader before I can close window or do anything else Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:19 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re:

Re: [biofuel] octane

2002-05-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 08:40:37PM -0400, steve spence wrote: > if your engine isn't pinging 113 is overkill. my car runs fine on 87. > Yup, what you want to do is find the *lowest* octane your engine will run on without pinging under load. The lower the octane, the more power, actually, sinc

Re: [biofuel] Re: octane

2002-05-02 Thread steve spence
yes, I realize that. added it for the benefit of those who thought bigger is better, even on stock motors. Now, how do I get that supercharged mini cooper to run E100? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http:/

[biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Joe Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Include me in that > > > > > > > > >-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "F. Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > While looking for something else, came up with a copy of US >Patent > > > > > 1,704,213, "Apparatus for the

[biofuel] Re: octane

2002-05-02 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if your engine isn't pinging 113 is overkill. my car runs fine on 87. > That is because you are using an engine that was designed to run on Gasoline at 87 Octane. If you are really going to get efficiency from Ethanol, you

Re: [biofuel] need info fuel cell true or false

2002-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Somewhere I've got some URLs about some German, IIRC, companies working on >biomass gasification combined with fuel cells. That would be cool. A couple of links to stories, as to the issue of what companies are close to actually offering one instead of continuing their dithering around. HPO

[biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Joe Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Include me in that > > > > > >-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "F. Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While looking for something else, came up with a copy of US Patent > > > > 1,704,213, "Apparatus for the Continuous

Re: [biofuel] Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Robby Davenport
please send info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you for your time .Robby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would like to have a copy of Us patent on Continuous manufacture of > absolute alcohol. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "F. Marc de > Piolenc" To:

[biofuel] Re: Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again

2002-05-02 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something that others on this list have mentioned > about net energy of ethanol. > Didn't notice a emphasis on humanure, methane, fertilizer, > insecticides, herbicides or other. plastic ides (sp?). > > From this site: > North

Re: [biofuel] octane

2002-05-02 Thread steve spence
if your engine isn't pinging 113 is overkill. my car runs fine on 87. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2

RE: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again

2002-05-02 Thread Curtis Sakima

[biofuel] The Seven Sisters

2002-05-02 Thread Steve Spence
We have formed a very exclusive club... Between us we control ninety percent of crude exports to world markets, and we are now united. We are making history. -- Perez Alfonso, 1960 The Seven Sisters The Great Oil Companies and the World They Made Anthony Sampson Hodder and Stoughton, 1975,

[biofuels-biz] The Seven Sisters

2002-05-02 Thread Steve Spence
We have formed a very exclusive club... Between us we control ninety percent of crude exports to world markets, and we are now united. We are making history. -- Perez Alfonso, 1960 The Seven Sisters The Great Oil Companies and the World They Made Anthony Sampson Hodder and Stoughton, 1975,

Re: [biofuel] compost & septics

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Harmon wrote: > Yes, if you look in the "city gardening" especially the "container >gardening" pages of journeytoforever, you'll find a wealth of info on >truly viable gardening in tiny spaces. I'm playing around with the >concept found at http://journeytoforever.org/garden_con-mexico.html th

Re: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Joe Trotter
Include me in that [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol > > Include me on that list as well. Can you post it with Keith? g a > >whitson-

Re: [biofuel] octane

2002-05-02 Thread MH
A partial explanation about octane that might help (people like me). From this site: Northwest Iowa Community College (NWICC) Sheldon, Iowa "Ethanol - As A Fuel" (Modules) http://www.nwicc.cc.ia.us/etsp.htm Note: linked to Keith's site www.nwicc.cc.ia.us/contacts.htm Excerpts: "An

Re: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again

2002-05-02 Thread MH
Something that others on this list have mentioned about net energy of ethanol. Didn't notice a emphasis on humanure, methane, fertilizer, insecticides, herbicides or other. plastic ides (sp?). From this site: Northwest Iowa Community College (NWICC) Sheldon, Iowa "Ethanol - As A Fu

Re: [biofuel] compost & septics

2002-05-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
Yes, if you look in the "city gardening" especially the "container gardening" pages of journeytoforever, you'll find a wealth of info on truly viable gardening in tiny spaces. I'm playing around with the concept found at http://journeytoforever.org/garden_con-mexico.html this year. We hav

Re: [biofuel] vs biodiesel lists

2002-05-02 Thread glenne1949
The biodiesel list has been touted on occasions as a superior listing to biofuels, containing, as claimed, more good info on biodiesel than appears on the biofuels listing. This, IMO, is more BS. For those of you who haven't looked, the last 400 or so msgs from biodiesel over the last month

[biofuel] octane

2002-05-02 Thread kirk
Wow 113. I suppose present 87 octane would really sound bad under the old system of measurement. I think that is why they changed the system, so people wouldn't feel as ripped off. Kirk -Original Message- From: Shaen Rooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:05 AM T

Re: [biofuel] compost & septics

2002-05-02 Thread Sureshbabu B
Hi, Thought let you know all that worm composting even if you live in urban area may be a good altarnative. Since most of the people here are concrened about enviroment this is another env friendly. I have started worm compost in my patio for all the kitchen waste using 10 gallons of rubbe

Re: [biofuel] Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
>Thanks Keith for the download, and thank you Marc for finding and scanning in >info. > >-Chris You're most welcome Chris - good, no problems then (never done a pdf before). There's more good stuff from Marc in our Biofuels library, by the way - have a look: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_

Re: [biofuel] Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Chris Amar
Thanks Keith for the download, and thank you Marc for finding and scanning in info. -Chris Keith Addison wrote: > Folks, you can download the file from here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, brie

RE: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again

2002-05-02 Thread Shaen Rooney
FYI- Octane number: iso-octane = 100 heptane = 0 ethanol = 113 kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/01/2002 05:30 PM Please respond to biofuel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: (bcc: Shaen Rooney/APCP/DEQ/MODNR) Subject:RE: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to

Re: [biofuel] compost & septics

2002-05-02 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Hi, I tried to send this yesterday, but my computer told me it was too hot to work. > >I'm a city guy these > >days, but when I retire to the boondocks I'll be composting and > >using a septic tank, so I'm trying to learn about it ahead of time. If you are going to be composting, why do yo

Re: [biofuel] Re: OPEC, Big Oil and you - 16 and last

2002-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read a few of them and passed one on. They were excellent. Thanks. MM >Well, that's it, I hope you enjoyed it. There is one more chapter - >"The Seduction", and the first seven chapters that I didn't scan, but >this should be enough. The book is available from second-hand book >dealers an

Re: [biofuel] Re: OPEC, Big Oil and you - 16 and last

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mark >In a message dated 02/05/2002 12:07:34 GMT Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Well, that's it, I hope you enjoyed it. There is one more chapter - > > "The Seduction", and the first seven chapters that I didn't scan, but > > this should be enough. The book is available f

Re: [biofuel] Re: OPEC, Big Oil and you - 16 and last

2002-05-02 Thread mrkw9
In a message dated 02/05/2002 12:07:34 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Well, that's it, I hope you enjoyed it. There is one more chapter - > "The Seduction", and the first seven chapters that I didn't scan, but > this should be enough. The book is available from second-hand boo

[biofuel] Re: OPEC, Big Oil and you - 16 and last

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Well, that's it, I hope you enjoyed it. There is one more chapter - "The Seduction", and the first seven chapters that I didn't scan, but this should be enough. The book is available from second-hand book dealers and is well worth reading in full. Try these: Advanced Book Exchange http://www.a

Re: [biofuel] Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Folks, you can download the file from here. Apparatus for the Continuous Manufacture of Absolute Alcohol -- US Patent 1,704,213, E. Ricard, filed January 23, 1924. Acrobat file, 524kb. Scanned by F. Marc de Piolenc. http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/continuousalcohol.PDF Please tell

Re: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
>Of course! >and if you can't legally... I won't tell. Okay, none of us'll tell. :-) Keith >I'm going to look into this system as well, hopefully it isn't too complicated >or chemically-prohibitive. >-Martin > >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sure, I could do that. I was

Re: [biofuel] Fatty acids as herbicides

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken >Keith: > >Thanks back at ya for the composting answer. You're more than welcome. >I'm a city guy these >days, but when I retire to the boondocks I'll be composting and >using a septic tank, so I'm trying to learn about it ahead of time. Can do in the city, even in an apartment. I made

[biofuel] OPEC, Big Oil and you - 16 and last

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
The Seven Sisters The Great Oil Companies and the World They Made Anthony Sampson Hodder and Stoughton, 1975, ISBN 0 340 19427 8 Chapter 14 - Part 2 The New Cartel Shah v. Sheikh By 1974 the long rivalry between Iran and Saudi Arabia, which had preoccupied the oil companies through the 'si

Re: [biofuel] Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol

2002-05-02 Thread glenne1949
I, also, would like to have a copy of patent on continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol. Thank you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Mo

[biofuel] Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-05-02 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Obviously, this was a really intriguing exposition. I will look forward to your > sharing of further developments, if possible. A few thoughts: > > In the U.S., over the last twenty years or so, we've seen some r