Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-23 Thread Radomír Černoch
Hi, the whole idea of polygons is over anyway... So my only answer to your points is "yes". :-) Radek 2009/5/23 Lauri Kytömaa : > Radomir Cernoch wrote: >>> http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=60.18933&lon=24.9642&zoom=18 >>I do not >>think that streets like Sturenkatu or Teollisuuskatu, nor any of >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-23 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
Radomir Cernoch wrote: >> http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=60.18933&lon=24.9642&zoom=18 >I do not >think that streets like Sturenkatu or Teollisuuskatu, nor any of >connected primary/secondary/tertiary form a "zone". I would suggest to >define a "zone" as an "area with predominantly uniform traffic >r

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > >> As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for >> #989431 to tag "DE:rural" info > > I missed the bit where "DE:rural" was proposed. How many roads outside > of Germ

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Matt Amos wrote: >> so... frequently running bots over entire countries to change the >> speed limit, or adding (by my count) about 20 million new tags to the >> DB, or dealing with inconsistencies between differ

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for > #989431 to tag "DE:rural" info I missed the bit where "DE:rural" was proposed. How many roads outside of Germany are in Germany? How many roads in Germany are not in German

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
Nic Roets schrieb: > What do you do when the DB says "Main Street" and the sign say "North Road" > ? To make that decision, I need information from the ground and maybe some intuition if I don't want to check the whole length of the street. But I don't need to dust off my book of traffic laws. I t

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Matt Amos wrote: > > so... frequently running bots over entire countries to change the > speed limit, or adding (by my count) about 20 million new tags to the > DB, or dealing with inconsistencies between different editors, etc... > that doesn't hold any water? >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote > > > > But it will make it a lot simpler for mappers. If you see a "No Cycling" > > sign on a trunk road and want to compare it to the DB, then you don't > need > > to think about where the country border polygon ends. > > So when I see that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Nic Roets wrote: > My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any > country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need > a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier > to add all th

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/5/22 Richard Bullock : > Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. > > each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in > that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise > Actually, that wouldn't work where I live in Australia. Each state can have

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Nic Roets wrote: > My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any > country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need > a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier > to add all those tags. For example give the edi

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock wrote: >> Am I missing something, > > No, you're not. I should expand that statement. No, you're not missing something, it's a fairly straightforward problem and your solution is fairly straigh

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock wrote: > Am I missing something, No, you're not. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Mario Salvini wrote: > Richard Bullock schrieb: >> Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. >> >> each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in >> that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise >> >> e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30m

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Richard Bullock schrieb: > Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. > > each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in > that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise > > e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Nic Roets
My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier to add all those tags. For example give the editors modes like "Rural UK

[OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Richard Bullock
Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless tagged as something else. each highw